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Are divorced Christians condemned to hell?

 
Don'tBeAfraid

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Why do you think it is that some of these false prophets have so much red karma? They spend all their time preaching hate!
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


I am not a prophet, therefore
not a false one at that.

I am just a modest researcher
who does his own research without
a priests' hands upon my shoulders
while I seek the truth. untainted
by established doctrine and make use
of an open mind to find the true answers
I seek. your first clue to find the creator
is to erase your mind of the man made
programming already filling it.
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So you've studied at the graduate school level about the Gnostic texts? I doubt that. What I imagine is you've read perhaps one book, and maybe seen several websites, and so declare yourself as an authority.

If you're an AC, then you're obviously not who I'm talking about in that quote above, are you? You can get red karma, and have not amassed red karma.

You are leading people down a false path though. Don't you feel it yourself?

You are tainted by doctrine, Silly. You're tainted by Gnostic teachings. That's OK, there's Free Will. You can choose to reject Yeshua. God isn't going to force you to believe.

You're making bad choices, and yet, I know in your heart that you wouldn't spend so much time searching in vain. You have a spiritual side and you want the truth desperately. But it's staring you right in the face and you're ignoring it.

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Utter nonsense Greatest I am.

What kind of sadistic idiot derives pleasure from the suffering of others?
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


Your God invented hell.
The most sadistic place imaginable so why are you asking a question when you follow the answer?

Regards
DL
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I will make it my task to oppose you, for you spread great evil. Be prepared.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


If that is the case, I hope you learn how to form arguments instead of just preaching. If not, you will be talking to the hand and I will ignore you.

Like here, name any place more sadistic tyhan hell and tell us why God created it and what about it gives him pleasure.

Note how I quote to back up what I say. Learn to do it right or begone.

Revelation 4:11
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

I also ignore those that do not answer simple questions like the one I asked you here.

Regards
DL
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Utter nonsense Greatest I am.

What kind of sadistic idiot derives pleasure from the suffering of others?
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


Your God invented hell.
The most sadistic place imaginable so why are you asking a question when you follow the answer?

Regards
DL
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I will make it my task to oppose you, for you spread great evil. Be prepared.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


If that is the case, I hope you learn how to form arguments instead of just preaching. If not, you will be talking to the hand and I will ignore you.

Like here, name any place more sadistic tyhan hell and tell us why God created it and what about it gives him pleasure.

Note how I quote to back up what I say. Learn to do it right or begone.

Revelation 4:11
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

I also ignore those that do not answer simple questions like the one I asked you here.

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


You're hardly ignoring me. You're engaging me. Perhaps even enraged by me. That makes me laugh.

You have puerile ideas about God and God's intentions. Why do you lie about God?

You're gaining red karma by the day, and it has no bearing on being a Gnostic. It has to do with your espousal of hate and condemning people.

Quite frankly you're no expert on Gnostic thought.

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That's silly. Where is your documentation to show that Gnostic texts were written prior to the Hebrew and Greek texts?

If you can't believe in Yeshua, then how can Yeshua help you?

Issa is not Yeshua. That's just illogical.I know you want to believe it, and yet, I also know that you wouldn't bother arguing unless this was important to you. If it wasn't, then you'd just ignore it.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


I am not Gnostic.
I am a truther.
all I want is truth.

and yes Issa is Yeshua

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the first time it is used is Issa

Issa Name Meaning
Arabic (mainly Lebanon and Syria): from the personal name ?Isa, Arabic form of Hebrew Yeshua, Greek Iesous (see Jesus)
 Quoting: Source


[link to www.ancestry.com]

Issa became Iesous when the Romans wrote it
in Greek in the Gospels. Then later it got
translated into Hebrew as Yeshua.

It existed as Issa before it was Yeshua and before
it was Iesous and Before it was translated to English
as Jesus.

It's all the same person !!

Cessarian = Issa = Yeshua = Iesous = Jesus
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16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


Shall we see if we can communicate?

I will give you that God may have loved the world.

If a sacrifice was needed though, I would suggest that a god who loved his son would not send him but would step up himself.

As above so below.

If you decided that a human sacrifice was required, would you step up or would you send a loved son?

I think that sons should bury fathers and not the reverse.

A simple question. Do you agree?

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DL
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That's silly. Where is your documentation to show that Gnostic texts were written prior to the Hebrew and Greek texts?

If you can't believe in Yeshua, then how can Yeshua help you?

Issa is not Yeshua. That's just illogical.I know you want to believe it, and yet, I also know that you wouldn't bother arguing unless this was important to you. If it wasn't, then you'd just ignore it.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


I am not Gnostic.
I am a truther.
all I want is truth.

and yes Issa is Yeshua

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the first time it is used is Issa

Issa Name Meaning
Arabic (mainly Lebanon and Syria): from the personal name ?Isa, Arabic form of Hebrew Yeshua, Greek Iesous (see Jesus)
 Quoting: Source


[link to www.ancestry.com]

Issa became Iesous when the Romans wrote it
in Greek in the Gospels. Then later it got
translated into Hebrew as Yeshua.

It existed as Issa before it was Yeshua and before
it was Iesous and Before it was translated to English
as Jesus.

It's all the same person !!

Cessarian = Issa = Yeshua = Iesous = Jesus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33459291


You attached the wrong link in as your evidence for the word Issa doesn't appear there.
Greatest I am (OP)

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There are only 2 Biblical reasons for divorce, adultery and death of the spouse.
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Do you think that just?

What if a wife has a husband who beats the hell out of her twice a week.

Would you advise her not to divorce and would you think it just to condemn her to hell for marrying another as scriptures do?

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


I, ____, take you, ____, to be my lawfully wedded(husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part


Make sure the one your marrying is the right one...or dont make vows you cant keep
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Tell that to the 60% of Christians that are divorced.

If your best advice is for her to stay till he kills her. You are a prick.

Regards
DL
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You are leading people down a false path though. Don't you feel it yourself?

 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


you claim I am leading people down a false path ???
lol

the church has already done that for 2,000 yrs.
I am trying to correct it.

And no I don't feel it.
I feel like I am spreading truth
which is what the world needs more of
instead of the lies of the past 2,000
years.

Yeshua was given to him only after the
New Testament Greek version was translated
into Hebrew texts. The Greek version
came before the Hebrew version.

So how can you pray to Yeshua if that was
never his name while he was alive ???
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There are only 2 Biblical reasons for divorce, adultery and death of the spouse.
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Do you think that just?

What if a wife has a husband who beats the hell out of her twice a week.

Would you advise her not to divorce and would you think it just to condemn her to hell for marrying another as scriptures do?

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


I, ____, take you, ____, to be my lawfully wedded(husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part


Make sure the one your marrying is the right one...or dont make vows you cant keep
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26311503


Tell that to the 60% of Christians that are divorced.

If your best advice is for her to stay till he kills her. You are as big of a prick as your God.

Regards
DL
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The earliest Gnostic gospels is around 280 AD. That's way way later than say the Magdalene document or any of the Biblical Gospels.

They were rejected because they were all over the place. It was clear that they were false teaching and hence heretical.

There's only a handful of Gnostic believers in the world. Why? Well it's not like people are organizing and building churches. They're a handful of people who are interested in things like the gospel of thomas.

Basically you're following a dead religion that died out because it wasn't interesting enough to get people to believe in it.

Honestly the OP misreprepresents himself to Christians. If you want to believe in the Gnostic texts, knock yourself out, but you're never going to get a lot of support, because over and over, while they are interesting, it's obvious that they're fake from an academic and rigorous look at their authenticity. They're the result of heretical teachings by Greeks.

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Well for Catholics you can divorce -- you just can't remarry.
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So they are denied the opportunity to find loving life mates.

Not very nice coming from a God of love. Rather anti-Christ I would say.

But then again, what can one expect from a pedophile protecting organization.

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DL
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You attached the wrong link in as your evidence for the word Issa doesn't appear there.
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then you are not reading

[link to www.ancestry.com]

Issa Name Meaning
Arabic (mainly Lebanon and Syria): from the personal name Isa, Arabic form of Hebrew Yeshua, Greek Iesous (see Jesus)

also refer here

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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You attached the wrong link in as your evidence for the word Issa doesn't appear there.
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then you are not reading

[link to www.ancestry.com]

Issa Name Meaning
Arabic (mainly Lebanon and Syria): from the personal name Isa, Arabic form of Hebrew Yeshua, Greek Iesous (see Jesus)

also refer here

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33459291


Ancestory.com is a website for geneology, not an academic site! Come on! Be serious.

That's a totally illogical way to prove the validity of your assertions.

And you cannot prove the Gnostic texts were written earlier than the Biblical Gospels and so, the Gnostic gospels are an afterthought. Therefore, how can some made up story almost 200 years later be considered the true story??? That makes me incredulous.
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They were rejected because they were all over the place. It was clear that they were false teaching and hence heretical.
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the whole Bible is heretical
from Genesis to Revelations.

It started out a fabrication and was
changed many times to suit the agenda
of the church at the time it was
edited.

The Torah version of Genesis had 4 different
authors from 4 different time periods.

How can it be God's word if it was changed
to suit the church ??

refer to Univ of Tel-Aviv research
entitled Ghostwriting the Torah

[link to phys.org]
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Do you think that just?

What if a wife has a husband who beats the hell out of her twice a week.

Would you advise her not to divorce and would you think it just to condemn her to hell for marrying another as scriptures do?

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


I, ____, take you, ____, to be my lawfully wedded(husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part


Make sure the one your marrying is the right one...or dont make vows you cant keep
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26311503


Tell that to the 60% of Christians that are divorced.

If your best advice is for her to stay till he kills her. You are as big of a prick as your God.

Regards
DL
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What kind of spiritual person talks like that! It's hysterical! You're the worst example of a devout person! It's utter nonsense what you say.

I'm more inclinded to believe you're a Satanist than a Gnostic.
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The Victory has been won for all mankind through Jesus Christ Great Sacrifice.Ask Jesus Himself what He thinks about you, it is all favorable..... JESUS CAME TO SAVE SINNERS, JESUS WANTS US ALL TO SIMPLY REPENT AND FOLLOW HIM TO FORGIVENESS BEYOND OUR HUMAN IMAGINATION....... Really falling in love with Jesus Christ is that simple, we come to Him with our brokenness and He makes our old life (self) go away and The New You as a son of God desires to grow toward Him .....not turning away in shame.
Time is getting very short for all humanity and we have found drawing closer to Jesus day by day is a very good place of heart to be anchored in the coming storm.
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No
Issa (Jesus) came to reclaim his
Egyptian birthright to rule Egypt
by using spirituality learned in
Tibet.

The Romans re-wrote his message
to create Christianity which was
a Psy-Op to subjugate and divide
the warring Hebrew Tribes with Rome.

He didn't come to save anybody
other than himself. The Romans twisted
it suit their agenda.
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They were rejected because they were all over the place. It was clear that they were false teaching and hence heretical.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


the whole Bible is heretical
from Genesis to Revelations.

It started out a fabrication and was
changed many times to suit the agenda
of the church at the time it was
edited.

The Torah version of Genesis had 4 different
authors from 4 different time periods.

How can it be God's word if it was changed
to suit the church ??

refer to Univ of Tel-Aviv research
entitled Ghostwriting the Torah

[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33459291


Who's arguing that the Bible didn't have many writers? No one. The Bible is God's inspired Word, given to the writers. Is it so hard to believe that God inspired people to write the Bible? Hardly, for millions believe that, and billions have through out history.

How many believe in the Gnostic gospels? A handful of people. It basically died out. Even when the texts were found, they weren't compeling.

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You see the whole point here, is not anything to do with divorce. You folks wish to convince people to accept your poorly documented beliefs and as such you've basically fabricated a reason to teach people in a duplicitous manner.

If you're that insincere, then of course people give you red karma.

Why not just be honest and create a Gnostic topic?
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And you cannot prove the Gnostic texts were written earlier than the Biblical Gospels and so,
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I could give a shit less about Gnostic Gospels.
I have already told you I am NOT Gnostic.
I am a truther.

You keep labeling me as a Gnostic to
suit your own agenda.
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Who's arguing that the Bible didn't have many writers? No one. The Bible is God's inspired Word, given to the writers.

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very interesting that God waits until
1392 to finish his inspiration.

or was that because Moses had it wrong
and they corrected it in 1392 ???

so, was Moses not inspired enough
to get Genesis correct when he
originally started it ???
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And you cannot prove the Gnostic texts were written earlier than the Biblical Gospels and so,
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I could give a shit less about Gnostic Gospels.
I have already told you I am NOT Gnostic.
I am a truther.

You keep labeling me as a Gnostic to
suit your own agenda.
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Isn't it amazing that someone seeking spiritual truth talks this way?
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Yes.

Also, those that eat shellfish, or wear garments made out of two kinds of thread.

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Who's arguing that the Bible didn't have many writers? No one. The Bible is God's inspired Word, given to the writers.

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very interesting that God waits until
1392 to finish his inspiration.

or was that because Moses had it wrong
and they corrected it in 1392 ???

so, was Moses not inspired enough
to get Genesis correct when he
originally started it ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33459291


What are you going on and on about? Where you're proof that the Torah was still being composed in 1392? And what pray tell does that have to do with divorce?

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And you cannot prove the Gnostic texts were written earlier than the Biblical Gospels and so,
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I could give a shit less about Gnostic Gospels.
I have already told you I am NOT Gnostic.
I am a truther.

You keep labeling me as a Gnostic to
suit your own agenda.
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Isn't it amazing that someone seeking spiritual truth talks this way?
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


isn't it amazing that a so called
Christian emphatically supports
and distributes known lies ???

pot meet kettle
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The Victory has been won for all mankind through Jesus Christ Great Sacrifice.Ask Jesus Himself what He thinks about you, it is all favorable..... JESUS CAME TO SAVE SINNERS, JESUS WANTS US ALL TO SIMPLY REPENT AND FOLLOW HIM TO FORGIVENESS BEYOND OUR HUMAN IMAGINATION....... Really falling in love with Jesus Christ is that simple, we come to Him with our brokenness and He makes our old life (self) go away and The New You as a son of God desires to grow toward Him .....not turning away in shame.
Time is getting very short for all humanity and we have found drawing closer to Jesus day by day is a very good place of heart to be anchored in the coming storm.
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No
Issa (Jesus) came to reclaim his
Egyptian birthright to rule Egypt
by using spirituality learned in
Tibet.

The Romans re-wrote his message
to create Christianity which was
a Psy-Op to subjugate and divide
the warring Hebrew Tribes with Rome.

He didn't come to save anybody
other than himself. The Romans twisted
it suit their agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33459291


Right! Talk about a whopper of a story! And you question the most document ancient text in history against that nonsense?
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Who's arguing that the Bible didn't have many writers? No one. The Bible is God's inspired Word, given to the writers.

 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


very interesting that God waits until
1392 to finish his inspiration.

or was that because Moses had it wrong
and they corrected it in 1392 ???

so, was Moses not inspired enough
to get Genesis correct when he
originally started it ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33459291


What are you going on and on about? Where you're proof that the Torah was still being composed in 1392? And what pray tell does that have to do with divorce?
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


1392 was used as an hypothetical example only.
nobody knows when the Torah got changed because
most of the old manuscripts never agree
textually with each other to make a solid
comparison.

just exactly like the Codex Sinaticus does not
match the KJV Holy Bible.
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Who's arguing that the Bible didn't have many writers? No one. The Bible is God's inspired Word, given to the writers.

 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


very interesting that God waits until
1392 to finish his inspiration.

or was that because Moses had it wrong
and they corrected it in 1392 ???

so, was Moses not inspired enough
to get Genesis correct when he
originally started it ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33459291


What are you going on and on about? Where you're proof that the Torah was still being composed in 1392? And what pray tell does that have to do with divorce?
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


1392 was used as an hypothetical example only.
nobody knows when the Torah got changed because
most of the old manuscripts never agree
textually with each other to make a solid
comparison.

just exactly like the Codex Sinaticus does not
match the KJV Holy Bible.
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So basically you just fabricated a date and tried to pull that off as evidence? In other words, you lied.
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Basically this total topic is complete manure. It has nothing to do with the topic title. It's a weak attempt by some quasi-Gnostics that have no academic training to discredit the Bible.

Very lame. Worst, allegedly these are spiritual people trying to make divorced people guilty.

Extremely lame.

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