Are divorced Christians condemned to hell?

The vast majority of the ones trying to advise Christian are actually Satanists! Don't fall for it Christians! Learn from your pastors, not from some criminal like these low pond scum bottom feeders! They know they're going to the Lake of Fire, and they want to drag as many innocents there!

Jesus Saves! He's the only way, for Jesus is God's only Begotten Son!

True Christians don't condemn people! They want to lift your burdens and help you!

Peace, find real peace in Jesus the Christ!

Then God is just a prick for creating souls just for purposeless torture.

Regards
DL

I made no such clam.

Regards
DL

You seem to want a God that is saying "all people are equal and all are righteous" They are not. The bible states there is a hierarchy, sheep - shepherds. This is the christian way, you have the right to choose another path.

Yes actually. FMPOV that is.

I will add these clips to the mix for your consideration. They show who put what in Jesus' mouth and how Christianity has been manipulated. The first which is part of the second speaks to my Gnostic Christian label and the second shows my view of religions overall and the Noble Lie that I think we and our governments should rescind. The third clip speaks to the reason that religions were invented in the first place as it shows why social control was required for city states that had to deal with the reality of finite resources. I see these city states as led by a timocratic king who through the religion that he would have created, also realized that there had to be a tyrannical part to his benevolent duty and created a religion to be just that.

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I see the King/God as having to have the morals shown in the Haigt clip.

[link to blog.ted.com]

He would have to create his religion as expressed through his high priest/tyrant who would live by the first commandment of God, place no one above me as the enforcer of his King/God's rules and laws while still obeying his King. The larger Roman system would later assume the same system through the Noble Lie. First through Flavian and later through Constantine.

[link to www.simchajtv.com]

Regards
DL

You see! This person worships Satan. You come here looking for answers from the Prince of Darkness! Why? Why when Jesus loves you. Even from the beginning of Time, Jesus knew you would be born, and has been waiting all of that Time to guide you and care for you and to be your Advocate with God. Jesus want to help you into Heaven, but also to have a wonderful life.

Satan can't stand that. Satan and his minions want you to feel shame and guilt. Don't fall for it. Jesus saved you by Grace. Accept it.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 02/01/2013 03:07 PM

ya gotta love this mindset
of quoting stuff that they have
no friggin clue as to who wrote it.

Christianity was a Psy-Op created
by Rome to help them win the Hebrew
wars in the 1st and 2nd Centuries.
It was designed to divide and conquer
the Hebrew tribes and turn them into
perfect Roman Citizens whom paid double
taxes since the Church collected 10%
of their wages and gave it to the
Roman Emperor.

Emperor Titus would take freshly written
new books of the Gospels and send them
by messenger into enemy territory with
the sole intent to have them confiscated
and read by the enemy. It would be
no different than Joseph Goebbels of
the 3rd Reich sending propaganda over
the airwaves during WW2 or Tokyo Rose
sending messages to US Sailors fighting
in the pacific.

Once you understand how Christianity
was used as a stepping stone for Rome,
then you come to terms with it being
a total fabrication.

it's mind programming, to turn you
into a slave. nothing more, nothing less.

I agree and think you might enjoy what this guy says on meditation and Jesus' message on opening the third eye.

From his POV, you might like the Jesus he speaks about. I do. I will give you this link but he speaks more to meditation on others.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Regards
DL

If you believe in evolution then we must sin even as we all begin with our default position that go to the good and not the evil. You will know why that is if you know evolution.

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Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by whipping out their favorite "free will!", or “ it’s all man’s fault”.

That is "God gave us free will and it was our free willed choices that caused our fall. Hence God is not blameworthy."

But this simply avoids God's culpability as the author of Human Nature. Free will is only the ability to choose. It is not an explanation why anyone would want to choose "A" or "B" (bad or good action). An explanation for why Eve would even have the nature of "being vulnerable to being easily swayed by a serpent" and "desiring to eat a forbidden fruit" must lie in the nature God gave Eve in the first place. Hence God is culpable for deliberately making humans with a nature-inclined-to-fall, and "free will" means nothing as a response to this problem.

If all sin by nature then, the sin nature is dominant. If not, we would have at least some who would not sin.


Having said the above for the God that I do not believe in, I am a Gnostic Christian naturalist, let me tell you that evil is all human generated. Evil is our responsibility.

Much has been written to explain what I see as a natural part of evolution.

Consider.
First, let us eliminate what some see as evil. Natural disasters. These are unthinking occurrences and are neither good nor evil. There is no intent to do evil even as victims are created.

Evil then is only human to human.
As evolving creatures, all we ever do, and ever can do, is compete or cooperate.
Cooperation we would see as good as there are no victims created. Competition would be seen as evil as it creates a victim. We all are either cooperating, doing good, or competing, doing evil at all times.

Without us doing some of both, we would likely go extinct.

This, to me, explains why there is evil in the world quite well.

Be you a believer in nature, evolution or God, we should all see that what Christians see as something to blame, evil, we should see that what we have, competition, deserves a huge thanks for being available to us.

There is no conflict between nature and God on this issue. This is how things are and should be. We all must do what some will think is evil as we compete and create losers to this competition.

Regards
DL

I do not even think he existed so please do not put me in his fan club.

Any that are in his club must follow a son murdering God and embrace human sacrifice and the notion that there is justice in punishing the innocent instead of the guilty.

That is not me. I have morals.

Regards
DL

the Gospel of Matthew was written by
Arrius Calpernicus Piso (Flavian Josephus)
in 75 AD.

Josephus and Titus were also the ones
who burned the Hebrew Temple of
Jerusalem to the ground in 75 AD.

this is called Ghostwriting.
when someone writes a book and
puts somebody else as author
to give it credibility.

Because nobody would read the damn thing
as fact if the Hebrews knew that Josephus
wrote it since Josephus was a member
of the Flavian Dynasty.

Flavian Dynasty = 68 AD to 140 AD.
Death of Nero in 68 AD.
These dates correspond perfectly
to the dates of the authorship
of the New Testament.

I do not follow the bible at all.
I just use it to stimulate discussions and to correct foolish Christians.

Why? -----Thanks for asking. Smile.

It is my view that all literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are moral religionists as well as those who do not believe. They all hurt their parent religions and everyone else who has a belief or not. They make us all into laughing stocks and should rethink their position. There is a Godhead but not the God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution. Beliefs in fantasy, miracles and magic are evil.

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They also do much harm to their own.

African witches and Jesus
[link to www.youtube.com]

Jesus Camp 1of 9
[link to www.liveleak.com]

Death to Gays.
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For evil to grow my friends, all good people need do is nothing.
Fight them when you can. It is your duty to our fellow man.

Regards
DL

Though this person, "Greatest Iam" uses the ancient name of YHWH, he believes not in God by his own admission! He's a Gnostic, but not a Chrisitian at all! How absurd to give Christians advice!



Don't be gullible and let these noxious souls drag you down into the Abyss.

I laugh and laugh at their feeble attempts!

God loves you. Satan and all his minions will try and try to make you feel awful. That doesn't come from God at all.

As soon as you hear someone condemning you, flee! That doesn't come from God.

In God is found perfect peace. Harmony. God values you so much, that God send Jesus to free you from Satan's power.

You can be free is you only accept it.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 02/01/2013 03:25 PM

Truth, other than for Christs teachings, all the remainder of the worlds religions are about claims of self entitlement to other peoples lives and property.

There is a difference between teachings intended to lighten your neighbours burdens by helping bear the burden vs the rest of the religions that are intended to loot ones neighbours because they are not one of you.

dont believe anything this AC says. on another thread he claimed that he just ripped up his super bowl tickets and threw them in the trash because of a youtube video

Thread: The Last Superbowl Ever probably

obviously a liar or a tard

We are on the same page. Ease up my friend.

Have a look at something I wrote and comment on it if you like. I would not mind a bump.

Thread: Only I can judge God. I is you if you choose to be.

Regards
DL

Guess I'll be there as well..I'll bring the marshmallows, you bring the hot dogs.

No, the Vatican is. Dont confuse Jesus and the Vatican.

The talking animals and fanciful stories are all in the OT, Jesus' teachings have none of that, and if you listen his teachings suggest that none of that matters, it's the judeochristians that fuss about monkeys and floods etc, seeking some form of worldly validation for what should be decided not from geology but from the improvement of the only activity not found in nature, sincere concern for the lives others who are also the wayward children of god.
Most religions rationalize and justify the natural urges and given the variations and width and breadth of them all, that should tell you the truth probably lies in the opposite direction.

Oh good, you noticed, so now that makes two of us...

the Vatican is one of the most vile
entities on this planet.

EVIL = Elohim VILe

or bad God

What is this fetish about God that deals in such scatalogical details? Are you anally fixated? It sure sounds like it. You need some long professional help. Do it now.

Insightful.

I don't think Jesus was too fond of genocidal Gods either.
Oops. Those who believe in the Trinity have to see Jesus as that as well. What a come down for a meak and mild man.

Regards
DL

Holy crap.
Would you genocide the whole world as well?

Is that anything like ---- doing unto others?

Would you like your whole species genocided again?

God forbid.

Regards
DL

Oops

The fable known as Jesus.

A child was born out of wedlock
in Alexandria Egypt. His name
was Cessarian. His father was
Julius Caesar and his mother
was Cleopatra.

Upon Caesar's death, Cleopatra sent
Cessarian to India with an armed
convoy. Miriam was Cleopatras'
most trusted maid servant and
Yosef of Arimithia was her uncle
who sold Miriam into slavery
to Cleopatra.

Cessarian left Egypt when he was
12 yrs old and Yosef used the spice
route to get Cessarian to Tibet.
On the road to Tibet, Yosef gave
him a new identity to protect him
from harm since Cessarian was a
wanted fugitive by Emperor Octavian.

His new name became Issa.

translated Issa means sons of Isis,
which Cleopatra considered herself
the reincarnation of Isis. The Hebrew
translation was Ieusus. Translated to
English = Jesus.

Issa arrived at the Hemis Buddhist
monestary at the age of 14 in Tibet
where he learned Buddhist practices
of healing with herbs and prayer, walking
on water, raising the dead with prayer, etc..

Issa stayed in Tibet til he was 28 yrs old
then left for Alexandria Egypt to find his
half sister Selene (Mary Magdelena) who was
also Cleopatra's younger daughter to help him
regain his rightful throne of Egypt. Issa
was a Ptolemy King by birthright.

Once he got to Egypt he not only found
Selene his half sister but also found
his half brother James (Helios) whom both assisted
him to regain his throne of both Egypt
and Rome.

There was an active Psy-Op by Issa to dethrone
Octavian (Emperor Augustus Caesar). Issa
was going to use religion and Buddhist spirituality
to regain his kingdom thus his ministry started.

Since Issa was only half Roman, he was not accepted
by the Romans and his Roman half was not accepted
by Hebrews which is why he was crucified.

However, Issa knew healing herbs and used
them during his crucifiction. His adopted father
bribed a Roman guard to give him a sleeping agent
in the vinegar he recieved on the cross. This agent
induced a comatose state of death but he did not die.
He was placed in a tomb where his body was
annointed with aloes and healing gels til he
awakened from his sleeping agent.

His hopes of becoming ruler of an empire was
put asunder at that point since he was not accepted by either
Romans or Hebrews so he made his way back to
Tibet where he died at age 80 after having married
and having a son by the name of Eli Kim.
This birth is noted on the stone walls of the
Temple of Solomon in Tibet as Issa being the father
when he was 54 yrs old.

Issa's burial tomb is in Srinegar India, better known
as Kasmir region.

Issa never claimed to be the son of God. This was
added by the Romans later as a Psy-Op against
the Hebrew Tribes during the Hebrew Wars.

This happened many yrs later when wealthy aristocratic
Roman families used Issa's story to divide and conquer
the Hebrew war tribes. They wrote that Issa was the
savior of the Jews so that the Jews would no longer
fight Rome and be good slaves to the Roman Empire.

So your Christianity was actually a Psy-Op that
the Romans reversed to use to their advantage.

and the truth is revealed.

Cessarian = Issa = Jesus

I think the real takeaway point was that it was a voluntary offering of ones position to aid and minister to the needs of others within ones capacities.
It was no murder, it was an offer and it was voluntary for the benefit of all.
You can make all the disdainful noises you like, but the recurrent lessons all revolve around not harming others because for all their flaws and their varying stations in life, they all originate from the same source and are intended to eventually return home better for the time away.

That is correct.

Heaven. Or hell for any infraction at all.

This Bishop tells you why.
Listen and repent.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Regards
DL

We have read some of the same info but I have not heard or read "Emperor Titus would take freshly written
new books of the Gospels and send them
by messenger into enemy territory with
the sole intent to have them confiscated
and read by the enemy."

Here are a few links and a theory. I will trade you for your source if you like.

I will add these clips to the mix for your consideration. They show who put what in Jesus' mouth and how Christianity has been manipulated. The first which is part of the second speaks to my Gnostic Christian label and the second shows my view of religions overall and the Noble Lie that I think we and our governments should rescind. The third clip speaks to the reason that religions were invented in the first place as it shows why social control was required for city states that had to deal with the reality of finite resources. I see these city states as led by a timocratic king who through the religion that he would have created, also realized that there had to be a tyrannical part to his benevolent duty and created a religion to be just that.

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

I see the King/God as having to have the morals shown in the Haigt clip.

[link to blog.ted.com]

He would have to create his religion as expressed through his high priest/tyrant who would live by the first commandment of God, place no one above me as the enforcer of his King/God's rules and laws while still obeying his King. The larger Roman system would later assume the same system through the Noble Lie. First through Flavian and later through Constantine.

[link to www.simchajtv.com]

Regards
DL

I just finished and have started to re-read Atwill's book for clarity. He has a plausible theory.

I knew that the O T was mostly an Egyptian and Sumerian re-write and that the N T was a plagiarized and mostly forged document but it is good from MPOV to know more of the Noble Lie.

Regards
DL