Are divorced Christians condemned to hell?

this is exactly why Issa kissed
Mary Magdelina on the lips, because
she was Issa's half sister.
They were family.

And exactly why Peter claimed that Issa
loved Mariam more than the rest of his
followers.

and exactly why the Romans left the
Gospel of Mariam (Mary) out of the Roman Bible
at the Council of Nicaea,
because it did not fit the Messiah
story. The fact that Issa was indeed
Cessarian would have ruined the whole
immaculate conception from God scenario.

Issa did not marry his half sister Mariam
as Dan Brown implies, but he did marry
a Hebrew tribe woman in Tibet and
had a son at age 54.

Utter nonsense Greatest I am.

You know, I have no problem with anyone worshiping in whatever way they chose. In your case, you misrepresent yourself, and so some poor guilt-ridden Christian shows up thinking that this is a Christian topic. Obviously it's not!

You're just a liar who likes condeming people to hell. How pathetic.

The abortion that you're purporting to be Gnostic teaching is so far from Gnostic thought. So basically you're demonstrating that you really don't have a clue as to what Gnostics believe.

What a complete jerk. What kind of sadistic idiot derives pleasure from the suffering of others? I guess that makes you brothers with Hitler.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 02/01/2013 04:06 PM

Indeed they are. Turn the other cheek, make your bed and lie in it, stand by your man, all women are harlots, it's all your fault and finally, who needs hell when y'all are already burning in it on earth.

not just suffering but also riches:

Rothschilds
Rockerfellers
Hapsburgs
Warburgs
Soros

shall I continue ???

The answer under this empirical view can only be in black and white; someone, somewhere clings to ancient words, penned by ancient men in lieu of the realities life brings. People kill, maim, torture, and commit atrocious acts based on an inordinate object, a book, which book? The right book...so cover your eyes, ears, and mouths and by all means continue reading while the world around you collapses...because what you think you know will save you and never mind that if your eyes were open, you could have just simply stepped out of harms way or intervened to help another out of harms way, but the book says they are bad, did something wrong to deserve this treatment, therefore feel justified to cast stones but be careful not to destroy your glass houses!

True that most of the fantasy, miracles and magic are in the O T but without those, the N T would also be worthless.

Forget not that in it God had to covet another man's woman for inappropriate reproduction and then became a dead beat da by taking off.

That bible God is a prick in both testaments.

Regards
DL

Then go be a Buddhist because that isn't the Christian way.

Your God invented hell.
The most sadistic place imaginable so why are you asking a question when you follow the answer?

Regards
DL

I would gladly destroy my house to destroy a genocidal son murdering God.

Wouldn't you?

If not, you are not a good man.

Regards
DL

Issa (Jesus) was Buddhist.
He only became the Christ
because Romans wrote about
him that way for an earthly
agenda of servitude from the
masses who would believe the
lies the Romans wrote about him.

This is exactly why scriptures
say you have to believe by faith
without proof.

because in reality, there is no
proof of their fictitious account
of Issa's life.

parts of his life were hidden/erased,
parts of his life were fabricated and
parts were left out. All for a Roman
Agenda which still exists today
when you devote yourself to a Roman
doctrine and pay your taxes to the
IRS which is owned by the Vatican
(Rome).

the Roman Empire never fell, it just
morphed into a financial whore that
sucks the life out of every living thing.

True. It is superior by a long shot.

Regards
DL

I will make it my task to oppose you, for you spread great evil. Be prepared.

all I offer is the truth
as I have found it to be
by many years of research.

I think Jack Nicholson was right
when he said

"You can't handle the truth"

because the actual truth would shatter
your religious paradigm.

maybe this is why the Vatican never reveals
the truth as it would cause world anarchy
if that system was disengaged as a platform
for world morality even if they know the
Bible to be false.

"How well we know what a profitable superstition
this fable of Christ has been for us"
Pope Leo X (1513-1521)

Matthew 19:1-11

King James Version (KJV)


"And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan;"

"And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there."

"The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"

"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"

"And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?"

"Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

"They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?"

"He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so."

"And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."

"His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry."

"But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given."

3 Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2 He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.”

3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.[a]”

4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You[c] must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”[d]

9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.

10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things? 11 Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.[e] 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,[f] 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”[g]

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.

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how can you have a son in heaven
without having a mother in heaven ???

for the word son means male offspring
from a conception.

John Testifies Again About Jesus

22 After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and baptized. 23 Now John also was baptizing at Aenon near Salim, because there was plenty of water, and people were coming and being baptized. 24 (This was before John was put in prison.) 25 An argument developed between some of John’s disciples and a certain Jew over the matter of ceremonial washing. 26 They came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan—the one you testified about—look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him.”

27 To this John replied, “A person can receive only what is given them from heaven. 28 You yourselves can testify that I said, ‘I am not the Messiah but am sent ahead of him.’ 29 The bride belongs to the bridegroom. The friend who attends the bridegroom waits and listens for him, and is full of joy when he hears the bridegroom’s voice. That joy is mine, and it is now complete. 30 He must become greater; I must become less.”[h]

31 The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all. 32 He testifies to what he has seen and heard, but no one accepts his testimony. 33 Whoever has accepted it has certified that God is truthful. 34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit. 35 The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands. 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

If you'd seriously like to discuss it, why not give me your phone number?

I, ____, take you, ____, to be my lawfully wedded(husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part


Make sure the one your marrying is the right one...or dont make vows you cant keep

Well for Catholics you can divorce -- you just can't remarry.

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You're so silly. You know you argue only because secretly when you're scared you desperately want God to save you. But to get that, you'd have to admit that you're wrong. So you see it's only your intransigence that's preventing God's love.

You won't get any condemnation from me. I only want you to find peace and love. I'm not one of those fire and brimstone sorts. Nope. Jesus didn't teach that. He only spoke about it once in a parable about Lazarus.

I hope you get to meet Jesus some day. Despite your professed unbelief, Jesus knows that you do believe.

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God is full of grace. Jesus paid the price for our sins. We turn to Him with a repentant (repent means to turn around, to agree with God).
When anyone, no matter what their sins have been, turns to Him with a repentant heart (sincerely seeking His acceptance), it follows that a repentant person will love God enough to live a life pleasing and acceptable to Him.
When you truly love Him, then you "receive the love of the truth so as to be saved." When you love someone, you want to be with that person...you want to know all you can learn about that person.... When you have a book written by that Person, then you would want to spend a lot of your time exploring it and finding out the mind of that person... (in God's case, Person). Repentance and salvation means agreeing with God...how can you agree, unless you read and research just what He is saying to us?
To love someone is to be in fellowship, in nearness, in agreement with that person....in God's case, you want to search His instructions and learn how to live successfully and righteously. Heaven will be filled with people who are divorced, and they turn to God and live a life in love with Him.

would absolutely love to meet him.
if you see him, tell him to come
on over for a cup of coffee and
some questions. my inquiries for
thus have been ignored.

First you must no longer be afraid of your sins being revealed. That's why you cannot find Jesus.

If you had actually read what I posted, especially:
"20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God." John3: 20-21

Then you'd be able to feel the Presence of Yeshua any time you wished. It's up to you. Can you admit your sins? Why don't you pray right now, tell God your sins, admit your unbelief, ask God to forgive you. Stop being afraid.

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Why do you think it is that some of these false prophets have so much red karma? They spend all their time preaching hate!

Is that what the Gnostic texts teach? Of course not!

I don't agree with any of the Gnostic texts, but that doesn't mean I have read some of them. They aren't full of hate.

The people of GLP, they can tell when somone is being false. That's why you have red karma. All that insincerity, all those awful evil things you say. All the petty cruelties.

There's tons of people here of all kinds of spirituality. People don't red them out, do they?

So you folks with high red marks, look in the mirror. Ask yourself, "Why am I being so evil? Why do I hate people?"

Fix yourselves before comdemning others.

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Yeshua was never his name,
His name was Issa.
Yeshua was a Hebrew translated name
given to him 40 yrs after Issa was
buried.

but thanks for playing :)

I am not a prophet, therefore
not a false one at that.

I am just a modest researcher
who does his own research without
a priests' hands upon my shoulders
while I seek the truth. untainted
by established doctrine and make use
of an open mind to find the true answers
I seek. your first clue to find the creator
is to erase your mind of the man made
programming already filling it.

That's silly. Where is your documentation to show that Gnostic texts were written prior to the Hebrew and Greek texts?

If you can't believe in Yeshua, then how can Yeshua help you?

Issa is not Yeshua. That's just illogical.I know you want to believe it, and yet, I also know that you wouldn't bother arguing unless this was important to you. If it wasn't, then you'd just ignore it.

If you want to be religious about it you are comiting adultry even when you look upon a woman in lust! Our only answer is unconditional Grace and Full Pardon from all sins ... Future and Past!

The Victory has been won for all mankind through Jesus Christ Great Sacrifice.Ask Jesus Himself what He thinks about you, it is all favorable..... JESUS CAME TO SAVE SINNERS, JESUS WANTS US ALL TO SIMPLY REPENT AND FOLLOW HIM TO FORGIVENESS BEYOND OUR HUMAN IMAGINATION....... Really falling in love with Jesus Christ is that simple, we come to Him with our brokenness and He makes our old life (self) go away and The New You as a son of God desires to grow toward Him .....not turning away in shame.
Time is getting very short for all humanity and we have found drawing closer to Jesus day by day is a very good place of heart to be anchored in the coming storm.