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"After the Tribulation: The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Fraud Exposed" Official Movie

 
Vaellene
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I am a christian; This is pretty good on the rapture being a false idea
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Bump and tag for later viewing!

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bump - good timely info me thinks...
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And here's a GLP-appropriate Bible verse (atheists may read, too):

God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong.

- 1 Corinthians 1:27
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I am a christian; This is pretty good on the rapture being a false idea
 Quoting: Vaellene


of course those that "do not believe" in the rapture will "not" go up in the rapture at all, because they will not be "waiting for it to happen"
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I am a christian; This is pretty good on the rapture being a false idea
 Quoting: Vaellene


It's not about the rapture being a false idea. It's about the rapture being a post-trib pre-wrath event, not a pre-trib event like most of main stream Christianity falsely believes.
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Doesnt beat Ken Peters prophecies!
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I was Pre-Trib for awhile as young Christian......but now feel that the Pre-Wrath position is correct.


God's wrath.......the 7th Seal of Revelation.
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Satan is a master at using half truths......things which sound correct on the surface......but are false.

He used half-truths with Eve in the garden and when tempting Christ in the wilderness.


The concept "Tribulation Period" was introduced.......but is not really defined as such in Scripture. It is therefore an outside addition to Scripture......and should not be used.


The Final 7 years should only be described as Daniel's 70th Week.........and there is no evidence in Scripture that God's wrath runs the full course of this final seven years. There is no evidence that Christians should be "raptured" just prior to Daniel's 70th Week.


When you come to a Scripture that includes the words:

tribulation
great tribulation


.......just translate it as the words which are shown to you......a time of great difficulty. Do not assign 7.0 years to it or 3.5 years to it.


Once a person is free from this subtle error, it is then easy to see, for example, how God can shorten (or end) the days......as it is not a fixed 3.5 years:



Do not assign 3.5 years to this verse:


"For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened." (Mt 24: 21-22)


God will end the wrath/persecution of satan/man of evil/false prophet after a period of time.......then you will have a period of worldwide darkness (6th Seal).

The elites will hide in fear in caves and declare that God's wrath is about to begin.

Then the 144,000 of Israel are sealed from harm. They will remain on earth. Then the Gentile Believers in Christ will be caught up be angels to be with the Lord.

Then.....God's wrath.....the 7th Seal of Revelation.

It will last approx. 1.5 years.....the final section of Daniel's 70th week.
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I grew up hearing pre-trib, but in researching my latest book on End Times Bible prophecy, I must conclude it's post-trib.

[link to endtimesand2019.webs.com]
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Gods people are not subject to God's wrath toward the wicked. He will remove them.
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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Gods people are not subject to God's wrath toward the wicked. He will remove them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33470320


In the end times, Satan and his angels will be kicked out of heaven. See Rev 12.

"Woe to the inhabitnats of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time." (verse 12)


God has not appointed us to wrath......namely His wrath.


It is therefore essential to identify when satan's wrath ends and God's wrath begins. God's wrath cannot be duplicated by satan, man, etc.


The 144,000 of Israel are not sealed from harm prior to the First Seal of Rev........but just prior to the 7th Seal.


The 7th Seal is God's wrath. Just prior to it......the elites will be hiding in fear in caves and declare plainly that God's wrath is about to begin.


"Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"
(Rev 6: 16-17)

The Day of the Lord is much longer than a human 24 hour day.

God's wrath (7th Seal) will comprise the final section of Daniel's 70th week......and will be approx. 1.5 years in duration. The fifth trumpet judgment by itself is five months in duration.


Believers in Christ will be caught up by angels just prior to the 7th Seal.

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