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All it will take is one good man to stand up and rally the troops. Just one. Good. Man.
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Look at what it did for the million man march. roflcopter
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I agree with you on every point OP and you want to know what is REALLY fucked up...After you made your post, you are most likely now on some fucking Government list and will now be labeled as a POTENTIAL TERRORIST!
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All it will take is one good man to stand up and rally the troops. Just one. Good. Man.
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Look at what it did for the million man march. :roflcopter:
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That man is David Wilcock
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God, this doesn't even seem like my country anymore, it's definitely not what I was told we were all about.

We can't even call ourselves free!

We can't even claim that we have representation through elected public servants!

We can't even say that we have a fair and legal free capitalist society any longer!

We can't say that we are fighting for freedom, when we have none, and we are invading and installing banks!

We can't say we are a nation of peace, whenever we have become the invaders.

We can't claim that we have justice, whenever everyone in government is above the law, and giving all our tax dollars to wall street and the bankers.

We are the most spied upon people on the planet

THe most indebted nation in history

THe largest prison population per capita on earth.

The most drugged out society in human existence.

We slaughter the unborn by the millions and call the mayans savages for their blood sacrifices.

We are disgusting, corrupt, bankrupt, desperate, and dying as a people.
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NKorea (not vetted) probably has a higher incarceration rate
Almost all of SE Asia has a higher drug addiction rate

is anyone preventing you from walking outside right now?

you've overblown quite a few of your claims
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Yep. I do not bow to any man.
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OP, we are ALL in this together.

Some just don't know yet.

Wanna know what I'm doing?

Leaving.

Just quitting society.

They kill me, at least I will have been alive in the first place.

Living means to love and cherish all without fear. To take care of our home, our own, and live small.

We changed that when we created a money system. It is putting faith behind something that you MUST have to live.

All you need is love!

I'm headed west. In Indiana now. Its too highway filled, cold, small and close minded.

Please, PLEASE read Fahrenheit 451.

Know there is NOWHERE to hide! Just get away from large areas and live on the down low. Remember NO FEAR!

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A life like his dreams this wolf chose to weave

On his own in the dark the wolf could not see
Nobody was telling him what to believe

When he questioned what truly made him free
It was always the moonlight guiding thee

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I feel ya!
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This machine is destroying the middle class.

It's destroying what jobs I use to have coming in.

It's destroyed my industry.

It's bailing out the rich through QE welfare candy for wall street, and foodstamp cellphone candy for the poor.

Meanwhile the gap is growing, and we are all getting weaker.

Yet, everyone I talk to says don't do anything, I've listened for the last three years as one dooms day prediction after another has come and gone. Every time I think the elite are about to be dethroned Icelandic style, they break a law that is totally ignored, never prosecuted, and allows them to keep the charade going for another couple months. Bailouts, money creation, theft like MF Global, laundering money like HSBC, and yet no one goes to jail.

I've come to understand that TOO BIG TO FAIL means one thing, it means the destruction of the middle class, and the strip mining of our nation.

So many people have lost everything, many others are struggling, and yet even more are cheating, or turning to criminal activity just to survive, including the states that have legalized everything lately except for prostitution.

I have no more dreams, and I was a dreamer.
There is no future, they've taken that away.
 Quoting: GodFrequency


Today, I was trying to set out a 5 year plan, with new goals. There are so many uncertainties, I don't even know what is feasible and for how long anymore. First time I ever had this problem. I am a goal setter and I get there. But I feel demoralized by what you are describing.
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My experience exactly!

Anyone know how I can locate other true Americans who still believe in the founding ideas of this nation.

We need to find one another so we can support each other. I want to spend my limited dollars making sure your businesses stay up and running. I want to buy products and services from others who want to be self supporting and free,.

Anyone know of an association or organization who attracts this kind of member? I want to join.
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start one
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I never thought I'd live long enough to say this, but "The Black Race is keepin' us down"
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It might appear that nobody is doing anything to get rid of these parasites by conventional means because TPTB invested a great deal of time, money & effort (ours, ironically!) ensuring that a system of fear & control was in place before they started their end game. Now their boldness is their weakness & will be their undoing.

Trust me OP... the rules by which they operate are being undermined & marked for demolition at every level. There is now a tangible sense of their frustration that things aren't going according to the naive play they have been enacting & palpable fear of what might be coming their way. They are correct in their suspicion but predictably unimaginative in how bad they expect things to get!
Trust this... the reversal of their fortune will be extremely sudden & disproportionately violent. Think French revolution & multiply by 100; I would not want to be in their shoes when the people snap, and they will... all across the World like a tsunami of anger.

You will be surprised (& probably somewhat amused) to hear who leads the charge. 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend', as the saying goes.


I have no more dreams, and I was a dreamer.
There is no future, they've taken that away.
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Dare to dream, the future is yours. This is assured I promise you. The ancient paradigm senses the earth piling up on top of it, but refuses to believe it can actually die.

Not long now.
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Just adding info:

FHA now rules that with every FHA home loan you have to pay an upfront mortgage insurance and increased the mortgage insurance to 1.75%.That can tack on an extra 230 dollars to a simple $125,000 mortagage payment So now not only are you paying for a mortgage back to the bank but also paying insurance to them for them.
Can it get crazier? Yep.
they blame anyone that purchases an FHA loan is most likely to default on the loan! Because of low downpayment.
they claim that anyone under a 740 FICO score will default.
AND
They claim that houses are going up in price when the truth is totally the opposite. No one can afford them. No jobs.

and crazier yet.
Fannie Mae has begun getting appraisors to hand out low appraisals 15 to 20% lower on a home. With really bad comps. Then waiting for homeowners that NEED to sale their houses go into default, colletcting that MIP and turning around foreclosing on the house then putting it back on market for that extra 15 to 20%.
Driving realtors, buyers and sellers bonkers.

Unethical.
 Quoting: RED SHOES


Always have been.. it's also 'relocation' at a different angle..also heard they're buying up houses in upscale neighborhoods and section 8 them. That brings down the value of the other houses in this neighborhood and puts the rest of the homeowners upside down in a mortgage.
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Believe it or not, reading this thread actually makes me feel relieved in a way. I've been wondering lately if I'm the only person feeling the way you are describing. It's nice to know I'm not the only one having trouble and wondering how long the storm is going to last. I honestly hope things change soon, but am also mentally prepared for this way of life to last a long time. I haven't given up on my dreams, although I've scaled my expectations down. Just gotta keep trying, and focusing on the positive things in life, even if they seem scarce. The way I see it, all that really matters is being a good person. Most of the people around me have given up on money; thus, love and respect are more valuable than a big bank account.
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I agree with you on every point OP and you want to know what is REALLY fucked up...After you made your post, you are most likely now on some fucking Government list and will now be labeled as a POTENTIAL TERRORIST!
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will be in some damn good company too
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I used to spend hard earned money on all the things mentioned to keep good people like you busy and payin yer bills.Not no more.I'm what they call a WI. union thug.And we lost.Now...I'm just happy to b able to keep netflix...Bet you hate unions don't ya?
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"That is not dead which can eternal lie yet with strange aeons even death may die"
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It might appear that nobody is doing anything to get rid of these parasites by conventional means because TPTB invested a great deal of time, money & effort (ours, ironically!) ensuring that a system of fear & control was in place before they started their end game. Now their boldness is their weakness & will be their undoing.

Trust me OP... the rules by which they operate are being undermined & marked for demolition at every level. There is now a tangible sense of their frustration that things aren't going according to the naive play they have been enacting & palpable fear of what might be coming their way. They are correct in their suspicion but predictably unimaginative in how bad they expect things to get!
Trust this... the reversal of their fortune will be extremely sudden & disproportionately violent. Think French revolution & multiply by 100; I would not want to be in their shoes when the people snap, and they will... all across the World like a tsunami of anger.

You will be surprised (& probably somewhat amused) to hear who leads the charge. 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend', as the saying goes.


I have no more dreams, and I was a dreamer.
There is no future, they've taken that away.
 Quoting:


Dare to dream, the future is yours. This is assured I promise you. The ancient paradigm senses the earth piling up on top of it, but refuses to believe it can actually die.

Not long now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26402302


How intriguing... How long's "not long"?
We are not the dreamers. We are the dream chasers.

"Poltical language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable" - George Orwell

"All great truths begin as blasphemies" - George Bernard Shaw

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended that we forgo their use" - Galileo
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i'm drunk and maudlin and in tears reading your thread, OP. know that there are many people all around the world feeling what you feel. i don't know where any of this goes.
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I keep hearing that we ought to resist. OK. Resist how?

Stop paying taxes = get kicked out of my home or go to jail.

March on Washington? Yeah right, fat load of good that does.

Vote? hahahhahhahahahhahahahhahahaha!

So, what can be done to resist the tyranny?
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This is the million dollar question.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


A third political party could be a start.

The Dems and Repubs are hopeless and totally corrupt.

We need a new party, infused with young, up-and-coming lovers of freedom and liberty -- kind of a truely "retro" party based soley on the Constitution.

There are surely Congresspeople and Senators who would embrace a new direction. If such a party's ideas are presented clearly and with integrity, it could catch fire like Obama did in 2008.
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Go east young man:


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Awesome video. Thanks for sharing it!
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And most US flags are made in China. That pretty much symbolizes what we've become. It's so sad.
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It's not sad, it's a reason, one of a million reasons, to get pissed off and complain about!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33460789


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And most US flags are made in China. That pretty much symbolizes what we've become. It's so sad.
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It's not sad, it's a reason, one of a million reasons, to get pissed off and complain about!
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What crock of shit!! All of you!! Not one person posting here NOT ONE, has put the blame where it needs to be put and thats on that boot licking coward Woodrow Wilson and the pussy congress of 1913!!
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Yes, they are truly to blame for the strip mining of our nation and our way of life. They have enslaved an entire nation and stolen it's wealth, and that of the world.
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nope not stolen....it was all given to them by the mindless sheepsheep
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Believe it or not, reading this thread actually makes me feel relieved in a way. I've been wondering lately if I'm the only person feeling the way you are describing. It's nice to know I'm not the only one having trouble and wondering how long the storm is going to last. I honestly hope things change soon, but am also mentally prepared for this way of life to last a long time. I haven't given up on my dreams, although I've scaled my expectations down. Just gotta keep trying, and focusing on the positive things in life, even if they seem scarce. The way I see it, all that really matters is being a good person. Most of the people around me have given up on money; thus, love and respect are more valuable than a big bank account.
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there are millions of hardworking , enterprising americans that are experiencing this. ...in varying degrees.

the economy is visibly fragile. All that are making money right now KNOW that this won't last much longer.

i'm tired myself. I've been self employed all of my life and it takes more effort to find work than it does to do the contract once I have it. ..

the stock market is reaching all time highs. !??WTF?

conflicting stories ...employment up? employment down? we've entered another recession? the recession ended in 2010? ...

this sham will end soon. but for most of us hardworking, honest people, not soon enuf. I've seen this country when it was based on principles THAT DO NOT RESEMBLE ANYTHING LIKE IT IS TODAY SO DON'T FUCKING TELL ME THAT 'IT'S STILL BETTER THAN OTHER NATIONS!'.

i've been to many other countries...they've always been fucked up...THE U.S. WAS THE LAST BASTIAN OF FREEDOM...NOW THE HOPE IS OVER. ..

the majority of the U.S. population 51% or so..now prefers security over freedom, prefers lying over the truth, prefers money without work, prefers the superficial over core morals, prefers selishness over selflessness...etc etc...

and this means the demise of the nation because the MAJORITY will now support the insane plan to destroy this nation.

a few people coming together in small groups...is the only thing that will be rational..
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Believe it or not, reading this thread actually makes me feel relieved in a way. I've been wondering lately if I'm the only person feeling the way you are describing. It's nice to know I'm not the only one having trouble and wondering how long the storm is going to last. I honestly hope things change soon, but am also mentally prepared for this way of life to last a long time. I haven't given up on my dreams, although I've scaled my expectations down. Just gotta keep trying, and focusing on the positive things in life, even if they seem scarce. The way I see it, all that really matters is being a good person. Most of the people around me have given up on money; thus, love and respect are more valuable than a big bank account.
 Quoting: Wrastlor


there are millions of hardworking , enterprising americans that are experiencing this. ...in varying degrees.

the economy is visibly fragile. All that are making money right now KNOW that this won't last much longer.

i'm tired myself. I've been self employed all of my life and it takes more effort to find work than it does to do the contract once I have it. ..

the stock market is reaching all time highs. !??WTF?

conflicting stories ...employment up? employment down? we've entered another recession? the recession ended in 2010? ...

this sham will end soon. but for most of us hardworking, honest people, not soon enuf. I've seen this country when it was based on principles THAT DO NOT RESEMBLE ANYTHING LIKE IT IS TODAY SO DON'T FUCKING TELL ME THAT 'IT'S STILL BETTER THAN OTHER NATIONS!'.

i've been to many other countries...they've always been fucked up...THE U.S. WAS THE LAST BASTIAN OF FREEDOM...NOW THE HOPE IS OVER. ..

the majority of the U.S. population 51% or so..now prefers security over freedom, prefers lying over the truth, prefers money without work, prefers the superficial over core morals, prefers selishness over selflessness...etc etc...

and this means the demise of the nation because the MAJORITY will now support the insane plan to destroy this nation.

a few people coming together in small groups...is the only thing that will be rational..
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Big dittos to both of you

I'm simply stunned at what's going on in this world. Just zaps my energy and soul...
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There needs to be a fundamental change in human consciousness.

I know that sounds all "new agey" and hippy and love everyone...

But it's true.

The fact is the elite are nothing more than opportunists. They aren't to blame. THE PEOPLE are to blame. WE give them an opportunity, and they take it. It's as simple as that. We all like to point the finger, but WE ARE TO BLAME. Please think about that. Even if you don't agree, just think about it every now and then, next time you want to complain.

No government, no religion, no economy, no law can protect against opportunists. Why? Because whenever a society improves itself, it inevitably becomes complacent.

If the people did defeat the elite and it was up to the people to establish a new government, which would it be? Dictatorship, democracy, republic, socialism?

How would you protect the government against selfish opportunists? The answer: YOU WOULDN'T.

Why?

Because all people are selfish, greedy, materialistic...and completely out of sync with universal spirit, nature...literally everything outside of "ME".
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Believe it or not, reading this thread actually makes me feel relieved in a way. I've been wondering lately if I'm the only person feeling the way you are describing. It's nice to know I'm not the only one having trouble and wondering how long the storm is going to last. I honestly hope things change soon, but am also mentally prepared for this way of life to last a long time. I haven't given up on my dreams, although I've scaled my expectations down. Just gotta keep trying, and focusing on the positive things in life, even if they seem scarce. The way I see it, all that really matters is being a good person. Most of the people around me have given up on money; thus, love and respect are more valuable than a big bank account.
 Quoting: Wrastlor


there are millions of hardworking , enterprising americans that are experiencing this. ...in varying degrees.

the economy is visibly fragile. All that are making money right now KNOW that this won't last much longer.

i'm tired myself. I've been self employed all of my life and it takes more effort to find work than it does to do the contract once I have it. ..

the stock market is reaching all time highs. !??WTF?

conflicting stories ...employment up? employment down? we've entered another recession? the recession ended in 2010? ...

this sham will end soon. but for most of us hardworking, honest people, not soon enuf. I've seen this country when it was based on principles THAT DO NOT RESEMBLE ANYTHING LIKE IT IS TODAY SO DON'T FUCKING TELL ME THAT 'IT'S STILL BETTER THAN OTHER NATIONS!'.

i've been to many other countries...they've always been fucked up...THE U.S. WAS THE LAST BASTIAN OF FREEDOM...NOW THE HOPE IS OVER. ..

the majority of the U.S. population 51% or so..now prefers security over freedom, prefers lying over the truth, prefers money without work, prefers the superficial over core morals, prefers selishness over selflessness...etc etc...

and this means the demise of the nation because the MAJORITY will now support the insane plan to destroy this nation.

a few people coming together in small groups...is the only thing that will be rational..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28116568


Big dittos to both of you

I'm simply stunned at what's going on in this world. Just zaps my energy and soul...
 Quoting: littlemiracles


I"ve been considering forming an 'intentional community' for several years...but finding like minded people is very difficult. The most difficult part is the finances. How to make a living after the relocation. Money does get in the way. It would be easy if I were single...then anything is possible...but with a family, it becomes more complex.

It has been said that the Mountains of the appalachians or Rockies will be the only place where 'relative peace' will exist in small groups/communities.

anyone interested in talking further? Any Hard working, honest, moral people out there?
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I keep hearing that we ought to resist. OK. Resist how?

Stop paying taxes = get kicked out of my home or go to jail.

March on Washington? Yeah right, fat load of good that does.

Vote? hahahhahhahahahhahahahhahahaha!

So, what can be done to resist the tyranny?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


This is the million dollar question.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Peaceful civil disobedience en mass is what smart people do, don't they? At least try that first so the public servants realize we are fed up and want them to abide by the rule of law.

I never thought I'd see the day that when I wanted to abide by the rule of law, I'd become the bad guy.

The internet is such a wonderful tool, but it seems like any people who think like I do that could make a positive difference and who actually WANT to, are so far away geographically, that we can't do anything along those lines.

So close but so far away.

People around me are sheep of the highest baaaaaa!
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a possible explanation for everything your talking about

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I keep hearing that we ought to resist. OK. Resist how?

Stop paying taxes = get kicked out of my home or go to jail.

March on Washington? Yeah right, fat load of good that does.

Vote? hahahhahhahahahhahahahhahahaha!

So, what can be done to resist the tyranny?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


This is the million dollar question.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Peaceful civil disobedience en mass is what smart people do, don't they? At least try that first so the public servants realize we are fed up and want them to abide by the rule of law.

I never thought I'd see the day that when I wanted to abide by the rule of law, I'd become the bad guy.

The internet is such a wonderful tool, but it seems like any people who think like I do that could make a positive difference and who actually WANT to, are so far away geographically, that we can't do anything along those lines.

So close but so far away.

People around me are sheep of the highest baaaaaa!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17851333


The answer is ZERO POINT ENERGY.

Tesla already proved that it's possible.

There have to be smart minds out there that can figure it out.

Free energy would wipe out starvation in an instant. Think about it. You could have a little free energy machine in the basement providing all the electricity, all the heat, and you could even grow a garden all-year around in your basement with artificial lighting. It might not be a steak, but bare essentials like fruit and vegetables (stored in a refrigerator powered by free energy)...seriously, what more would anyone need???

I'll tell you one thing it would do: it would cause people to have a lot more free time to create things for the love of art and not the love of money!
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Re: I need for this whole charade to collapse before I get ground into financial dust ....
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