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This machine is destroying the middle class.

It's destroying what jobs I use to have coming in.

It's destroyed my industry.

It's bailing out the rich through QE welfare candy for wall street, and foodstamp cellphone candy for the poor.

Meanwhile the gap is growing, and we are all getting weaker.

Yet, everyone I talk to says don't do anything, I've listened for the last three years as one dooms day prediction after another has come and gone. Every time I think the elite are about to be dethroned Icelandic style, they break a law that is totally ignored, never prosecuted, and allows them to keep the charade going for another couple months. Bailouts, money creation, theft like MF Global, laundering money like HSBC, and yet no one goes to jail.

I've come to understand that TOO BIG TO FAIL means one thing, it means the destruction of the middle class, and the strip mining of our nation.

So many people have lost everything, many others are struggling, and yet even more are cheating, or turning to criminal activity just to survive, including the states that have legalized everything lately except for prostitution.

I have no more dreams, and I was a dreamer.
There is no future, they've taken that away.
 Quoting: GodFrequency


Hang in there brother, everyone has a day of reckoning...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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You guys/gals know how genealogy works

Let's assume that of the 3% of the population who fought in the Revolutionary War, half had kids.

Then those kids have kids, etc. - for 9 to 10 generations...

That would be quite a number of Americans who ARE the Sons & Daughters of the Revolutionary War.

Let's also assume that a number of those who survived The War thought wisely enough to pass-down the significance of our Constitution to their kin. Perhaps they conveyed to them the importance of attempting peaceful methods as one approach to Tyranny.

Maybe they taught their kids other ways to handle Tyranny as well.

We will only know the moment that they cross that final line (same as before) - and try to bring their oppression to the people, -taking land and rights away from the sovereign...

the people's Common property.

In these times, let's not forget those who may own superior strategies against Tyranny (in any form), for the sake of Liberty, and keep them always in our thoughts and prayers!

Here's to high hopes...!
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Aquaponics, man. I think it will change my near future. That`s what Im hoping is going to feed my family in a couple of years. Seriously.
 Quoting: LonghairKing


interesting. thats what i am looking into as well. but ....to create such a system in an area that will be over run by 'zombies' lol...is useless.

so..i'm looking at the mountains ...get there and then aquaponics.
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Growing up I recall feeling like we were the good guys in the world, a beacon of freedom that everyone else envied.Pride in my country ran deep,and I felt like anyone could achieve anything if they had the drive to do so.We were on the right side of things and it seemed that anywhere you went in the world people dreamed of coming here to live the American dream.But everything has changed, now we are despised throughout the world because we use force or the threat of force as our preferred method in forcing sovereign states to do as we say,while at the same time going to the UN and charging Russia with human rights abuses and accusing them of meddling in other nations affairs when they move to stop the encroachment of NATO(historically the biggest threat to them as a nation) into a border country that until recently was part of Russia.The hypocrisy is mind numbing and we are acting like and perceived as bullies. Since 9/11 the freedoms we once took for granted have been systematically dismantled, now warrant-less wiretaps and ease dropping on american citizens is common place,drones buzz our skies tracking the public's comings and goings, and people expressing opinions on the internet are closely monitored and in some cases even arrested for simply stating the obvious,that our country has lost its way.All of these restrictions on the citizens of America under the guise of protecting us from Islamic terrorists,ALL OF THESE INFRINGEMENTS ON OUR FREEDOMS YET THE SOUTHERN BORDER WITH MEXICO REMAINS WIDE OPEN FOR ANY AND ALL UNIDENTIFIED INDIVIDUALS TO ILLEGALLY ENTER THE USA.Does this make any sense? How many Islamic terrorists have come into this country through Mexico? Most that are here i would wager. I hope im wrong about everything and this is all a big misunderstanding on my part,I`ve never wanted to be wrong so badly in my whole life
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I live in the jungle here, my only luxury is satellite Internet. Once that is gone, I'll learn to talk to monkeys.

USA is being systematically and purposely destroyed, run for life while you still have a chance, in a couple of years you'll be sorry you didn't.
The system is rigged and we are all losers.
We are the last generation of this corrupt Old World Order.
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Hang in there America!!!!! Ahhhhhhhh!!!!! What a mess!!! You can feel it in the air!
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Hang in there America!!!!! Ahhhhhhhh!!!!! What a mess!!! You can feel it in the air!
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I have never voted for Obama.

He makes me want to vomit.
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This machine is destroying the middle class.

It's destroying what jobs I use to have coming in.

It's destroyed my industry.

It's bailing out the rich through QE welfare candy for wall street, and foodstamp cellphone candy for the poor.

Meanwhile the gap is growing, and we are all getting weaker.

Yet, everyone I talk to says don't do anything, I've listened for the last three years as one dooms day prediction after another has come and gone. Every time I think the elite are about to be dethroned Icelandic style, they break a law that is totally ignored, never prosecuted, and allows them to keep the charade going for another couple months. Bailouts, money creation, theft like MF Global, laundering money like HSBC, and yet no one goes to jail.

I've come to understand that TOO BIG TO FAIL means one thing, it means the destruction of the middle class, and the strip mining of our nation.

So many people have lost everything, many others are struggling, and yet even more are cheating, or turning to criminal activity just to survive, including the states that have legalized everything lately except for prostitution.

I have no more dreams, and I was a dreamer.
There is no future, they've taken that away.


 Quoting: GodFrequency


Wow. That...is exactly it. I am thunderstruck. Someone else sees.... Hopelessness and Intense Anxiety like "just pull the f'ing plug already and get it over with". Wow.
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God, this doesn't even seem like my country anymore, it's definitely not what I was told we were all about.

We can't even call ourselves free!

We can't even claim that we have representation through elected public servants!

We can't even say that we have a fair and legal free capitalist society any longer!

We can't say that we are fighting for freedom, when we have none, and we are invading and installing banks!

We can't say we are a nation of peace, whenever we have become the invaders.

We can't claim that we have justice, whenever everyone in government is above the law, and giving all our tax dollars to wall street and the bankers.

We are the most spied upon people on the planet

THe most indebted nation in history

THe largest prison population per capita on earth.

The most drugged out society in human existence.

We slaughter the unborn by the millions and call the mayans savages for their blood sacrifices.

We are disgusting, corrupt, bankrupt, desperate, and dying as a people.
 Quoting: GodFrequency


Dude I'm with ya been saying the same shit. They're so worried about gun .... O O O the little kids ... but its OK to suck a baby out of your vag
 Quoting: Carbide

Yes, self-reliance used to be considered an American virtue. Now it's treated as an excuse to call someone a terrorist.

American values are being turned on their heads. Do I love this country? I don't know, to some extent I do.

I love the values that used to be American, that many Americans still care about, some more than before as now they are threatened.

I like the hunk of land we have. It's a good place but it's not the only good location on the planet. It's good to keep this hunk of dirt, because I don't want the bad guys to have it, even though I feel I could go 20 other places and be just as happy or happier.

I like many of the people, but there are good and capable people (and some a bit less capable) everywhere.
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I live in the jungle here, my only luxury is satellite Internet. Once that is gone, I'll learn to talk to monkeys.

USA is being systematically and purposely destroyed, run for life while you still have a chance, in a couple of years you'll be sorry you didn't.
The system is rigged and we are all losers.
We are the last generation of this corrupt Old World Order.
 Quoting: PhilippinoBob


It's not -5 degrees C outside where you are. You don't need so many luxuries, nature provides a very temperate climate for you.

As I said, I am willing to move if necessary. Maybe the Philippines, why not?
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Growing up I recall feeling like we were the good guys in the world, a beacon of freedom that everyone else envied.Pride in my country ran deep,and I felt like anyone could achieve anything if they had the drive to do so.We were on the right side of things and it seemed that anywhere you went in the world people dreamed of coming here to live the American dream.But everything has changed, now we are despised throughout the world because we use force or the threat of force as our preferred method in forcing sovereign states to do as we say,while at the same time going to the UN and charging Russia with human rights abuses and accusing them of meddling in other nations affairs when they move to stop the encroachment of NATO(historically the biggest threat to them as a nation) into a border country that until recently was part of Russia.The hypocrisy is mind numbing and we are acting like and perceived as bullies. Since 9/11 the freedoms we once took for granted have been systematically dismantled, now warrant-less wiretaps and ease dropping on american citizens is common place,drones buzz our skies tracking the public's comings and goings, and people expressing opinions on the internet are closely monitored and in some cases even arrested for simply stating the obvious,that our country has lost its way.All of these restrictions on the citizens of America under the guise of protecting us from Islamic terrorists,ALL OF THESE INFRINGEMENTS ON OUR FREEDOMS YET THE SOUTHERN BORDER WITH MEXICO REMAINS WIDE OPEN FOR ANY AND ALL UNIDENTIFIED INDIVIDUALS TO ILLEGALLY ENTER THE USA.Does this make any sense? How many Islamic terrorists have come into this country through Mexico? Most that are here i would wager. I hope im wrong about everything and this is all a big
misunderstanding on my part,I`ve never wanted to be wrong so badly in my whole life
 Quoting: PC FREE


Wow again. Especially about how what I used to "Know" about my Country, that we were the "good guys in the white hats" just doesn't seem to be true anymore. It makes me want to cry sometimes. Are people really being arrested for typing things like you and I just typed? GOD I HOPE NOT. Then it really Would be Over...the Dream I mean. Over for everyone and probably for good. I know mine is already.
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Growing up I recall feeling like we were the good guys in the world, a beacon of freedom that everyone else envied.Pride in my country ran deep,and I felt like anyone could achieve anything if they had the drive to do so.We were on the right side of things and it seemed that anywhere you went in the world people dreamed of coming here to live the American dream.But everything has changed, now we are despised throughout the world because we use force or the threat of force as our preferred method in forcing sovereign states to do as we say,while at the same time going to the UN and charging Russia with human rights abuses and accusing them of meddling in other nations affairs when they move to stop the encroachment of NATO(historically the biggest threat to them as a nation) into a border country that until recently was part of Russia.The hypocrisy is mind numbing and we are acting like and perceived as bullies. Since 9/11 the freedoms we once took for granted have been systematically dismantled, now warrant-less wiretaps and ease dropping on american citizens is common place,drones buzz our skies tracking the public's comings and goings, and people expressing opinions on the internet are closely monitored and in some cases even arrested for simply stating the obvious,that our country has lost its way.All of these restrictions on the citizens of America under the guise of protecting us from Islamic terrorists,ALL OF THESE INFRINGEMENTS ON OUR FREEDOMS YET THE SOUTHERN BORDER WITH MEXICO REMAINS WIDE OPEN FOR ANY AND ALL UNIDENTIFIED INDIVIDUALS TO ILLEGALLY ENTER THE USA.Does this make any sense? How many Islamic terrorists have come into this country through Mexico? Most that are here i would wager. I hope im wrong about everything and this is all a big misunderstanding on my part,I`ve never wanted to be wrong so badly in my whole life
 Quoting: PC FREE


you are not wrong. ...so you don't have to be 'nice' and say it that way. Not to be rude, but what is..is.

i remember the same as you...because i experienced it. ...lived it. Now..the dream is fake, we try to make it the same..but it isn't possible. SURE, WE CAN STILL 'PUSH' AND MAKE MONEY...BUT IT ISN'T THE SAME.

and our children...they have no idea what the U.S. used to be like. ..
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as a younging i cant wait for this shit to go down the young were abused by the older generations in fucked up ways well that shit is karma my friends now the younger generation is going to make shit better we dont want to be slaves anymore we want to attend to each others problems then our own later fuck doing things for yourself its selfish do it for all we will survive together as one.
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commie talk
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This machine is destroying the middle class.

It's destroying what jobs I use to have coming in.

It's destroyed my industry.

It's bailing out the rich through QE welfare candy for wall street, and foodstamp cellphone candy for the poor.

Meanwhile the gap is growing, and we are all getting weaker.

Yet, everyone I talk to says don't do anything, I've listened for the last three years as one dooms day prediction after another has come and gone. Every time I think the elite are about to be dethroned Icelandic style, they break a law that is totally ignored, never prosecuted, and allows them to keep the charade going for another couple months. Bailouts, money creation, theft like MF Global, laundering money like HSBC, and yet no one goes to jail.

I've come to understand that TOO BIG TO FAIL means one thing, it means the destruction of the middle class, and the strip mining of our nation.

So many people have lost everything, many others are struggling, and yet even more are cheating, or turning to criminal activity just to survive, including the states that have legalized everything lately except for prostitution.

I have no more dreams, and I was a dreamer.
There is no future, they've taken that away.
 Quoting: GodFrequency


Keep your chin up son... it's all we've really got...
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as a younging i cant wait for this shit to go down the young were abused by the older generations in fucked up ways well that shit is karma my friends now the younger generation is going to make shit better we dont want to be slaves anymore we want to attend to each others problems then our own later fuck doing things for yourself its selfish do it for all we will survive together as one.
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commie talk
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commie talk from being brainwashed. The fall of the U.S.
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I keep hearing that we ought to resist. OK. Resist how?

Stop paying taxes = get kicked out of my home or go to jail.

March on Washington? Yeah right, fat load of good that does.

Vote? hahahhahhahahahhahahahhahahaha!

So, what can be done to resist the tyranny?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


This is the million dollar question.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


And I'll give you the million dollar answer (but you can keep your million, because I ain't gonna need it where I'm going).

Nothing, you don't have to give a shit about tyranny. Yes, I know, we all want to be that generation that changed everything, that fought against tyranny and won and lived a happy life and the future generations never forgot of how important we were. But we won't, cause in a thousand years from now, it won't matter. So stop giving that much importance to yourselves and live your lives.
"We are dust from the stars"
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Growing up I recall feeling like we were the good guys in the world, a beacon of freedom that everyone else envied.Pride in my country ran deep,and I felt like anyone could achieve anything if they had the drive to do so.We were on the right side of things and it seemed that anywhere you went in the world people dreamed of coming here to live the American dream.But everything has changed, now we are despised throughout the world because we use force or the threat of force as our preferred method in forcing sovereign states to do as we say,while at the same time going to the UN and charging Russia with human rights abuses and accusing them of meddling in other nations affairs when they move to stop the encroachment of NATO(historically the biggest threat to them as a nation) into a border country that until recently was part of Russia.The hypocrisy is mind numbing and we are acting like and perceived as bullies. Since 9/11 the freedoms we once took for granted have been systematically dismantled, now warrant-less wiretaps and ease dropping on american citizens is common place,drones buzz our skies tracking the public's comings and goings, and people expressing opinions on the internet are closely monitored and in some cases even arrested for simply stating the obvious,that our country has lost its way.All of these restrictions on the citizens of America under the guise of protecting us from Islamic terrorists,ALL OF THESE INFRINGEMENTS ON OUR FREEDOMS YET THE SOUTHERN BORDER WITH MEXICO REMAINS WIDE OPEN FOR ANY AND ALL UNIDENTIFIED INDIVIDUALS TO ILLEGALLY ENTER THE USA.Does this make any sense? How many Islamic terrorists have come into this country through Mexico? Most that are here i would wager. I hope im wrong about everything and this is all a big
misunderstanding on my part,I`ve never wanted to be wrong so badly in my whole life
 Quoting: PC FREE


Wow again. Especially about how what I used to "Know" about my Country, that we were the "good guys in the white hats" just doesn't seem to be true anymore. It makes me want to cry sometimes. Are people really being arrested for typing things like you and I just typed? GOD I HOPE NOT. Then it really Would be Over...the Dream I mean. Over for everyone and probably for good. I know mine is already.
 Quoting: LJ 1189406

Unfortunately yeah.Remember the guy that had just gotten out of the marines a few months ago and had posted an opinion on facebook saying that this country had lost its way and the founding fathers would be rolling in there graves to see the corruption and self serving nature of our current leaders,etc.etc. Anyway the feds came to his house without a arrest warrant or charges and took him away.Luckily his family acted quickly and got a lawyer to file a false arrest complaint and a judge ordered him released.They were in the process of shipping him to a psych ward on the other side of the state when was ordered released.Google it.
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adapt or fight. everyone has their line in the sand. you're not alone
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adapt is right.

I use to be a dreamer.

I wanted to spend my life developing things like magnetic energy.

Creating art that would move people.

Producing something of value.

Leaving the world a better place.

It seems like the internet was on the verge of allowing alot of that to be accomplished.

Now look at what it's being used for due to government, to create the most spied upon people in history.

For control.

Our technological future includes bio engineered monster foods, and predator drones over head. Facial recognition software, and control.

Perhaps government realized they would soon be obsolete, and we would no longer need them, or fight in their wars.

I believe now this is going to end very badly. It's all or nothing for both sides at this point.
 Quoting: GodFrequency


yep, they would rather go back to page one and start everything over again than give people control. they don't want progress, only control. google "the most suppressed inventions" and you will find solid proof of this. we should be marching on washington right now
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Wow again. Especially about how what I used to "Know" about my Country, that we were the "good guys in the white hats" just doesn't seem to be true anymore. It makes me want to cry sometimes. Are people really being arrested for typing things like you and I just typed? GOD I HOPE NOT. Then it really Would be Over...the Dream I mean. Over for everyone and probably for good. I know mine is already.


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If anyone in this thread gets arrested, we're past the point of no return. Or even a knock for questioning is unacceptable.

People have been afraid to talk online for a long time now, with good reason. It changes a country when people can't speak their true minds without fear of retribution for posting non-violent and non-threatening speech to the big baby government. They can dish that shit out but they sure can't take it, can they?

The problem is that law is not being applied equally and the laws are not equal for everyone. This can be remedied with a stroke of a pen, but don't think for a second these asses want to give up any of their power. Think fox and henhouse with their abuse of the Constitution in elevating themselves way above the public.

Never call these people lawmakers. This is destruction of our language and a brainwashing. They are Public Servants and nothing more.

Pay cuts are in order, pension and healthcare benefit cuts. Obamacare for them and no damned exemption's list.

Injustice!!!!

The people are starting to demand it.

Money by the billions to other countries in aid and we're supposed to be going tits up economically any second. Someone please tell me I am going to wake up from this nightmare.
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I keep hearing that we ought to resist. OK. Resist how?

Stop paying taxes = get kicked out of my home or go to jail.

March on Washington? Yeah right, fat load of good that does.

Vote? hahahhahhahahahhahahahhahahaha!

So, what can be done to resist the tyranny?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


This is the million dollar question.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


And I'll give you the million dollar answer (but you can keep your million, because I ain't gonna need it where I'm going).

Nothing, you don't have to give a shit about tyranny. Yes, I know, we all want to be that generation that changed everything, that fought against tyranny and won and lived a happy life and the future generations never forgot of how important we were. But we won't, cause in a thousand years from now, it won't matter. So stop giving that much importance to yourselves and live your lives.
"We are dust from the stars"
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correct. It won't matter a thousand years from now. BUT...between now and then, things will happen, people will act..govts will change due to different actions....

whatever a person chooses is the correct thing for them. It all fits like a puzzle...and it always will.
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This machine is destroying the middle class.

It's destroying what jobs I use to have coming in.

It's destroyed my industry.

It's bailing out the rich through QE welfare candy for wall street, and foodstamp cellphone candy for the poor.

Meanwhile the gap is growing, and we are all getting weaker.

Yet, everyone I talk to says don't do anything, I've listened for the last three years as one dooms day prediction after another has come and gone. Every time I think the elite are about to be dethroned Icelandic style, they break a law that is totally ignored, never prosecuted, and allows them to keep the charade going for another couple months. Bailouts, money creation, theft like MF Global, laundering money like HSBC, and yet no one goes to jail.

I've come to understand that TOO BIG TO FAIL means one thing, it means the destruction of the middle class, and the strip mining of our nation.

So many people have lost everything, many others are struggling, and yet even more are cheating, or turning to criminal activity just to survive, including the states that have legalized everything lately except for prostitution.

I have no more dreams, and I was a dreamer.
There is no future, they've taken that away.
 Quoting: GodFrequency


Care for some cheese with that whine?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23554071


No, but there's a BIG slice of karma coming your way!
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Fuck off!
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Can you say Troll! Most of us who are awake see a clear cut problem with the society we live in is the nation we call home. I don't care what side of the political fence you reside, but this is not the life we were promised. Now, I'm not talking about being on the dole or feeling entitled, I'm talking about the Pursuit of Happiness, "be anything you want if you work hard enough", "We the People" having a voice and a say. We ALL have a major stake in this point in time. But then there is YOU and others like YOU that have nothing to contribute to the solution or at best the conversation. So the next time you plan to speak, the rest of us would just rather you didn't. If you don't agree with the OP's topic then argue/debate it like the rest of us. If there were fewer people like YOU in this world and in this nation then maybe we could all go beyond the water cooler talk and change the course of history for the better, not just for us but for the future generations. But I think I speak for both sides of the isle when I say, "I could care less if you ever spoke in this forum again unless you have something to actualy add that is not of your Trolling nature." Thanks, now FUCK OFF!skull_fing NOW BACK TO GREAT AND RELEVANT DISCUSSION! Sorry ladies and gents for my language towards the end, I'm just at whits end with folks like this!
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I keep hearing that we ought to resist. OK. Resist how?

Stop paying taxes = get kicked out of my home or go to jail.

March on Washington? Yeah right, fat load of good that does.

Vote? hahahhahhahahahhahahahhahahaha!

So, what can be done to resist the tyranny?
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This is the million dollar question.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


And I'll give you the million dollar answer (but you can keep your million, because I ain't gonna need it where I'm going).

Nothing, you don't have to give a shit about tyranny. Yes, I know, we all want to be that generation that changed everything, that fought against tyranny and won and lived a happy life and the future generations never forgot of how important we were. But we won't, cause in a thousand years from now, it won't matter. So stop giving that much importance to yourselves and live your lives.
"We are dust from the stars"
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correct. It won't matter a thousand years from now. BUT...between now and then, things will happen, people will act..govts will change due to different actions....

whatever a person chooses is the correct thing for them. It all fits like a puzzle...and it always will.
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My friend, your fellow countryman wrote this "Growing up I recall feeling like we were the good guys in the world, a beacon of freedom that everyone else envied.Pride in my country ran deep,and I felt like anyone could achieve anything if they had the drive to do so.We were on the right side of things and it seemed that anywhere you went in the world people dreamed of coming here to live the American dream."
Can't you see...he thinks he's important, he want's to be envied. That is the main problem of almost everyone and every country, everywhere on this globe.
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yep, yep, yep...ditto it all, except the part where I'm still toiling away in the shitty system. I was asleep, but my sub-conscious must have been telling me to get out of this racket a long time ago. I swore off credit cards 15 years ago. I bought a house 12 years ago and never tapped into the equity that built up so fast. I sold it 5 years ago and was able to reap some profit from that. From there, I swore off ANY debt. I read about a coming bond bubble a few years ago and cashed out my 401K. Yeah I had to pay a tax penalty, but I figured some money was better than none. Those bastards in DC will find a way to get their hooks into the middle class 401K money, or when the shtf, everything will implode and be worthless. So I ditched.

Then the big day...25 years slaving away for corporate America, earning 6 figures, etc., etc. But realizing I was just going through the motions of life. Exhausted. 70 hour work weeks. No time for the family. Working for a complete pos prick that made every day a horror. One day a few months ago, I told him to fuck off. I told him to get me an exit check to make it worth my while to leave nicely or I was going to launch Armageddon on his ass and sue the fuck out of all of them. They gave me a check. And you betcha! I'm on the dole of unemployment. That money is just piling up because I haven't gone through the exit money from the company yet. Yeah. I faced the choice of living the rest of my life in that horrible way, or taking door #2...the unknown.

I have been sitting on my ass for four months now doing NOTHING. Nothing but plotting how to get super self-sufficient because when shtf, I ain't gonna be standing in no govt cheese line begging for crumbs. I am talking to a consultant company about doing a one year gig for them on a project to make some cash so I can gtfo of where I am and to a better place. Yeah, everyday, I sit on my ass and send a big middle finger to those people. Not playing the game, not giving them my labor and 60%+ of what I earn.

My point is, once you wake up, you can't stay in the game. It eats your soul, makes life a pure misery. That means they win. And I know, it's hard to figure out how to live in a non-now structure, but when you take the first step, you are then forced to take the next. You are led there somehow.

I'll tell you what pushed me over the edge to ditch the job. Ocommie running his big fucking mouth about the evil rich people. I'm killing myself working 70 hours/wk, they're stealing the majority of my money to feed and house lazy/irresponsible types, and I'M the problem??? Fuck that! I was producing millions in tangible incremental profit for my company. Profits that enabled them to expand, hire people, etc. I withdrew my talent and Uncle Sam no longer receives my huge tax revenue. Fuck all of them. The corporations, the thieves in DC. I have ideas about what I'm going to do next and it will contribute to the plight of others who hate the game, but don't know how to get out. Life is good again! I'm excited about each day! Find your path out of this bs! You can do it!
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The part I don't understand is.

WHat happens once everyone is on the dole?

Where do you get the dole?

Will they then force people to work as slaces to support the dole?

How are they going to force people?
Starve them?

Why not just let them starve right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30245711


Other totalitarians force them at gunpoint (this is why you do not need a gun) and work them until they fall over, and starve them to death. Labor is cheap in that kind of society.
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And the U.S. is getting to be the same way. Ever work in one of the big company's fulfillment warehouses? I do, and it's really dog-eat-dog and getting to 'work until you drop'. They really take advantage of the young workers and the immigrants, because these folks don't realize that working conditions in general were much better years ago.
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Blessings of the state, blessings of the masses.
For more enjoyment and greater efficiency, consumption is being standardized. We are sorry ...
Let us be thankful we have an occupation to fill. Work hard, increase production, prevent accidents and be happy. Let us be thankful we have commerce.
Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy.
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Nothing, you don't have to give a shit about tyranny.
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Really?

Let's see, I am forced to buy health insurance, which seriously threatens my ability to pay my bills and keep my house, which I am currently only barely able to do.

I have four children. Are they forced to be vaccinated?

My food supply is tainted with cancer-causing GMO crap.

If I want to defend myself against armed gangs, it looks like I'm going to have to use a pellet gun.

I have to pay my taxes to support corporate fat cats and welfare slobs. No, I do not get a tax return. I pay.

My home value fell to less than half of its original value in a span of months. My neighbors, who had all lived in their houses for years, were forced out by the banks and replaced by Mexican renters. Meanwhile the bankers made off with millions after causing the "crisis" through fraud.

If I want to open a new store, or hire new employees, I have to pay so many fees on their behalf that it simply isn't worth it. And if they want an abortion, my company must pay for it, despite the fact that I consider it murder.

I also have to "support the troops" in foreign wars whose only effect is putting money into the pockets of politicians.

On top of that, I watch nearly everyone I know get suckered into toxic brain drugs for the profit of Merck & Pfizer while thousands of perfectly innocent people are put away in prison for smoking pot.

Sure, just sit here and let the tyrants have their way. Is that your solution? Should I really just let that all slide?

I think this stuff DOES affect me personally. And I think it affects you. Unfortunately I don't have a solution, but I'd love to hear some suggestions.
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Re: I need for this whole charade to collapse before I get ground into financial dust ....
Don't worry, it will soon

What will precipitate it will be a natsec (national security) crisis that overwhelms the feckless O'Bozo Admn. Then there will be a gigantic repeat---a post 2008 meltdown, occurring on multiple levels....just like what really triggered 2008, the Russians sudden invasion of Georgia in August of that year.

"soon" = starts end of March, proceeds & intensifies in April/May/June...the cast of characters are all set.

Plus, from an astrological standpoint the planets line up just like Fall '08, except this time much, much more deadly....all hosted by ever deadly Mars in Taurus, with a backdrop of the outer planets (Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) in their worst sign placements possible, and transiting critical placements in the natal charts of the USA, China, the EU, and NYC. It's a seriously unholy culmination of human folly.

Why it works: dark matter/energy in the universe is directly tied to human consciousness, some phycists think the universe itself is conscious, and the dark m/e is a direct clue. anyhow astrology has given us a 5000 yr old system of observation & analysis.

Get someplace safe until it blows over years later.

 Quoting: OCCAM'S RAZOR


Seems like you're saying something other than or along with financial doom will happen here... Can you explain???

hiding

...And it'll be YEARS before "IT" blows over???

Thanks! hf
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I have never voted for Obama.

He makes me want to vomit.
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well yeah that's why he is called ovomit
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This machine is destroying the middle class.

It's destroying what jobs I use to have coming in.

It's destroyed my industry.

It's bailing out the rich through QE welfare candy for wall street, and foodstamp cellphone candy for the poor.

Meanwhile the gap is growing, and we are all getting weaker.

Yet, everyone I talk to says don't do anything, I've listened for the last three years as one dooms day prediction after another has come and gone. Every time I think the elite are about to be dethroned Icelandic style, they break a law that is totally ignored, never prosecuted, and allows them to keep the charade going for another couple months. Bailouts, money creation, theft like MF Global, laundering money like HSBC, and yet no one goes to jail.

I've come to understand that TOO BIG TO FAIL means one thing, it means the destruction of the middle class, and the strip mining of our nation.

So many people have lost everything, many others are struggling, and yet even more are cheating, or turning to criminal activity just to survive, including the states that have legalized everything lately except for prostitution.

I have no more dreams, and I was a dreamer.
There is no future, they've taken that away.
 Quoting: GodFrequency


Care for some cheese with that whine?
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Hey AP, GO FUCK YOURSELF with a wine bottle, you gravy sucking bitch! This person is spilling out their soul and you give a comment like that???

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