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If you think that erasing your internet files with a program protects you...think again.

 
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The best way to kill a hard-drive is old-fashioned but effective. Take the drive and unscrew the screws holding it together. Take off the magnets and give them to the kids to play with as they are very powerful. Take the round CD-like disc drive and place it in a fire in your pit or fireplace. Or put it beneath a boat motor recovery magnet for a few hours. Or put it in a microwave oven for about 5 seconds on high. Or take it out to the nearest reservoir and frisbee it into the depths. There is no way to kill it completely otherwise. Just sayin...
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You forgot reformatting. chuckle
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What about taking it out in the woods and blasting it with a shotgun and burying it in an unmarked grave, or using a baseball bat on it and the pouring gas on it and burning it?
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02/02/2013 12:39 AM
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There's a lot of good jacking off material hidden somewhere on all my old hard disc drives. Some cop might lock himself in his basement and jackoff for days if he ever got his hands on them.
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02/02/2013 01:42 AM
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As we all know internet privacy is a very important topic.

Everything you do online is stored in various directories on your hard drive, but using eraser programs like Ccleaner and Window Washer doesn't erase them completely.

There are hidden folders on your computer that store every URL you have visited, every picture you have viewed and every download you have saved, to your computer's hard drive and cannot be accessed to delete without a specific program.

This folder is called index.dat.

If you don't believe me, type these various file paths into your search bar in the start menu and find out for yourself.

If you have Windows 7 or Windows Vista then index.dat files are in these locations (note that on your PC they can be on other drive instead of drive C):

C:\Users\<username>\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.d​at
C:\Users\<username>\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\Low\ind​ex.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.I​E5\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.I​E5\Low\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.I​E5\index.dat\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXX\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.I​E5\Low\index.dat\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXX\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Low\Content.IE5index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\UserData\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\UserData\Low\index.dat
------------------------------------------

If you have Windows XP or Windows 2000 then index.dat files are in these locations (note that on your PC they can be on other drive instead of drive C):

C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Cookies\index.dat
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXX\index.dat
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\UserData\index.dat
----------------------------------

If you have Windows Me, Windows 98, Windows NT or Windows 95 then index.dat files are in these locations:
C:\Windows\Cookies\index.dat
C:\Windows\History\index.dat
C:\Windows\History\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX\index.dat (XXXX are some digits)
C:\Windows\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\Windows\History\History.IE5\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX\index​.dat
C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\index.dat (only in Internet Explorer 4.x)
C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\Windows\UserData\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\Cookies\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\History\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\History\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX​XX\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\History\History.IE5\index.dat

C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\History\History.IE5\MSHistXXXX​XXXXXXXXXXXXXX\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\Temporary Internet Files\index.dat (only in IE 4.x)
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\UserData\index.dat

Doesn't work does it? You can even set your settings to show hidden folders and they still will not allow access.

I have Windows 7 and I know for a fact that all index.dat files are locked from viewing and deleting.

I cannot speak as to what other operating systems do but go ahead and try it anyway. Even if they allow access they will not allow you to just drag them to your recycle bin because they are always being used by your computer.

Today I will show you to not only access and view evrything permanently stored on your computer, but also how to delete all traces of internet activity FOREVER.

Please be patient, I will be adding links to index.dat viewers as well as erasers.

The rest is up to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33457620


Can u not just reformat your computer? if you are really worried take a magnet to the harddrive?
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Yeah, but why go through all that when you can run a program that takes minutes to complete?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33457620


Mainly because he's right in regards to there being hidden files on your computer and not everyone would be ok with authorities knowing everything they do, for instance, even though I havent done it and have no plans to do it, I have looked up many youtube videos on how to make things, some things that are illegal. Certainly wouldn't want them trying to pin shit on me.

Basically if you have any suspicion of your computer being searched, reformat that very instant and don't do anything with the computer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25647766


Or...use one of these programs and erase them permanently.

Reformatting is unnecessary.
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02/02/2013 03:41 AM
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bump one more time for the night owls.
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02/02/2013 12:56 PM
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Thanks for this, OP.
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02/02/2013 11:03 PM
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ALL cleaned! TY!!!
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02/02/2013 11:12 PM
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If its so dang impossible to erase files then why is it so hard to RECOVER files from just a simple delete or worse a format? I call BS..
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02/02/2013 11:29 PM
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The solution is the freeware, open source BleachBit located at [link to bleachbit.sourceforge.net]

Its updated regularly, extremely thorough, and all you'll ever need.
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02/03/2013 09:14 AM

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The solution is the freeware, open source BleachBit located at [link to bleachbit.sourceforge.net]

Its updated regularly, extremely thorough, and all you'll ever need.
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why do some of these files require you to install a "downloader" first? i don't trust stuff like that. why is it necessary?
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02/03/2013 02:12 PM
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The solution is the freeware, open source BleachBit located at [link to bleachbit.sourceforge.net]

Its updated regularly, extremely thorough, and all you'll ever need.
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why do some of these files require you to install a "downloader" first? i don't trust stuff like that. why is it necessary?
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You must have clicked on the wrong link.

I just downloaded it with no problems and no downloader.

Maybe your PC doesn't have a downloader installed.
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02/03/2013 02:23 PM
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The solution is the freeware, open source BleachBit located at [link to bleachbit.sourceforge.net]

Its updated regularly, extremely thorough, and all you'll ever need.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21974491


why do some of these files require you to install a "downloader" first? i don't trust stuff like that. why is it necessary?
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If you're downloading the BleachBit install file from Sourceforge, it does not in any way require you to install a "downloader". Sourceforge is a reliable site that has never done that crap and never will. I have no idea where you're getting this from. Unless your computer is infested with viruses/sypware.
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02/03/2013 03:31 PM
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The solution is the freeware, open source BleachBit located at [link to bleachbit.sourceforge.net]

Its updated regularly, extremely thorough, and all you'll ever need.
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Just so that you are aware, that program does not remove index.dat files.
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02/03/2013 04:17 PM

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The solution is the freeware, open source BleachBit located at [link to bleachbit.sourceforge.net]

Its updated regularly, extremely thorough, and all you'll ever need.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21974491


why do some of these files require you to install a "downloader" first? i don't trust stuff like that. why is it necessary?
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If you're downloading the BleachBit install file from Sourceforge, it does not in any way require you to install a "downloader". Sourceforge is a reliable site that has never done that crap and never will. I have no idea where you're getting this from. Unless your computer is infested with viruses/sypware.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21974491


no my computer is not infested with anything. thanks.

Let me try again. I see... the problem was me being a dumbass and clicking on the wrong "download" link. I got it now, with no issues. Thank you for clarifying that for me.
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02/03/2013 05:34 PM
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bump
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02/03/2013 10:55 PM
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Fucking years I have skipped along thinking that my PC is cleaned and safe.

Nope. 5*
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"Don't be evil" but...when you are being evil run a live linux OS off a cd. rofl
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke

Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain

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"Don't be evil" but...when you are being evil run a live linux OS off a cd. rofl
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technically that's the best way to do it... find a secure [lol] linux live version and burn it to cd or copy to a flash drive which is then write-protected.

inside that live linux distro you run an virtual machine to run windows.

this can be done in a system with no hard drive. you can actually set up a flash drive so that you can go to any computer that can boot from a usb drive and your virtual operating system won't even try to access a hard drive or store anything aside from temporary memory registers.

of course you then have the chinese / nsa / cia backdoors built into modern chips...
rhombus will set you free...

some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end!

if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind.
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02/03/2013 11:24 PM
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Thermite is the only way to be certain.
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02/04/2013 07:22 AM
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The solution is the freeware, open source BleachBit located at [link to bleachbit.sourceforge.net]

Its updated regularly, extremely thorough, and all you'll ever need.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21974491


Just so that you are aware, that program does not remove index.dat files.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6405004


Changes in BleachBit 0.6.0:
"Delete locked files on Windows by marking them for deletion when Windows restarts. This particularly helps deleting Internet Explorer's index.dat files. So far deleting locked files works better on Windows XP than on Vista."

This was back in 2009. Current version is 0.9.5.
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02/05/2013 03:07 PM
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I use CCleaner with CCEnhancer and every index.dat viewer says 0 index.dat files found. You shouldn't promote lies about software just because you don't like it for some reason. I have used CCleaner w/ CCEnhancer for more than a year BECAUSE it erases ALL tracks. Including index.dat files.
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This may have been asked, sorry if it has but: What about for Windows 8? Similar steps as to Win. 7? Thanks
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This may have been asked, sorry if it has but: What about for Windows 8? Similar steps as to Win. 7? Thanks
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I'm pretty sure Windows 8 doesn't use index.dat files.

Almost positive.
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This may have been asked, sorry if it has but: What about for Windows 8? Similar steps as to Win. 7? Thanks
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Thermite is the only way to be certain.
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Used the index file thingy. Found nothing more than this evening's surfing.

Used the Track Eraser Pro thingy. Nothing seen this evening's surfing.

Also, the Track Eraser Pro window is small and cutssquiches some words making it difficult to know what some options are.

Not impressed so far. What am I doing wrong?
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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02/06/2013 01:22 AM
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As we all know internet privacy is a very important topic.

Everything you do online is stored in various directories on your hard drive, but using eraser programs like Ccleaner and Window Washer doesn't erase them completely.

There are hidden folders on your computer that store every URL you have visited, every picture you have viewed and every download you have saved, to your computer's hard drive and cannot be accessed to delete without a specific program.

This folder is called index.dat.

If you don't believe me, type these various file paths into your search bar in the start menu and find out for yourself.

If you have Windows 7 or Windows Vista then index.dat files are in these locations (note that on your PC they can be on other drive instead of drive C):

C:\Users\<username>\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.d​at
C:\Users\<username>\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\Low\ind​ex.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.I​E5\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.I​E5\Low\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.I​E5\index.dat\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXX\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.I​E5\Low\index.dat\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXX\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Low\Content.IE5index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\UserData\index.dat
C:\Users\<username>\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\UserData\Low\index.dat
------------------------------------------

If you have Windows XP or Windows 2000 then index.dat files are in these locations (note that on your PC they can be on other drive instead of drive C):

C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Cookies\index.dat
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXX\index.dat
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\UserData\index.dat
----------------------------------

If you have Windows Me, Windows 98, Windows NT or Windows 95 then index.dat files are in these locations:
C:\Windows\Cookies\index.dat
C:\Windows\History\index.dat
C:\Windows\History\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX\index.dat (XXXX are some digits)
C:\Windows\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\Windows\History\History.IE5\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX\index​.dat
C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\index.dat (only in Internet Explorer 4.x)
C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\Windows\UserData\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\Cookies\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\History\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\History\MSHistXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX​XX\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\History\History.IE5\index.dat

C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\History\History.IE5\MSHistXXXX​XXXXXXXXXXXXXX\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\Temporary Internet Files\index.dat (only in IE 4.x)
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\Windows\Profiles\<username>\UserData\index.dat

Doesn't work does it? You can even set your settings to show hidden folders and they still will not allow access.

I have Windows 7 and I know for a fact that all index.dat files are locked from viewing and deleting.

I cannot speak as to what other operating systems do but go ahead and try it anyway. Even if they allow access they will not allow you to just drag them to your recycle bin because they are always being used by your computer.

Today I will show you to not only access and view evrything permanently stored on your computer, but also how to delete all traces of internet activity FOREVER.

Please be patient, I will be adding links to index.dat viewers as well as erasers.

The rest is up to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33457620


You can read those files in any text editor like notepad or wordpad or even MS Word.

I think that notepad is limited in the size of files it can rad so if they are too big you have to go to wordpad or word or some other editor.
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02/06/2013 01:33 AM
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As we all know internet privacy is a very important topic.


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Download Glary Utilities and CC Cleaner and use them both. One gets what the other doesn't and vice versa. No worries, just a clean machine with a few mouse clicks. Both are freeware.
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Used the index file thingy. Found nothing more than this evening's surfing.

Used the Track Eraser Pro thingy. Nothing seen this evening's surfing.

Also, the Track Eraser Pro window is small and cutssquiches some words making it difficult to know what some options are.

Not impressed so far. What am I doing wrong?
 Quoting: Resister


Start over man.

Download index.dat viewer 3 here.

[link to www.softpedia.com]

That program will only give you a list of what is already on your PC.

Then download Index.dat analyzer here.

[link to download.cnet.com]

When you open that program there is a little icon in the upper right area of the program that looks like a little hammer (to me at least) with a yellow handle and a cubed looking top. Click that and it will pull up all the folders on your PC that store index.dat files.

Right next to that button, to the right, there is another button. Click that and it will erase everything.

You're done.

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