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| christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 02/01/2013 04:34 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L. WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom. [link to www.all.org] Susie For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12 |
| christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 02/01/2013 04:36 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The tragic lessons of history teach us that when one right can be infringed, all rights are at risk. The HHS mandates are losing in court. It is time for this administration to submit itself to the US Constitution, which it has sworn to uphold, and quit trying to hold the country's conscience hostage to its own agenda. However Obama says: *I am not a King* he just acts like one... Susie For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12 |
| Neim-Ya'shar THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 33451814 02/01/2013 04:41 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L. Quoting: christian WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom. [link to www.all.org] Hey susie You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it. They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes. Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy." Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day. For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out. Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/01/2013 04:43 PM "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA! ![]() |
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| christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 02/01/2013 04:45 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L. Quoting: christian WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom. [link to www.all.org] Hey susie You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it. They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes. Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy." Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day. For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out. Well when a Church can no longer feed the poor, help there missionaries, help widows, children, the elderly the homeless that is a Church that has either lost it's salt or has been infiltrated by a Godless Government.... Susie For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12 |
| christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 02/01/2013 04:46 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can't afford to lose their heads... Susie For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12 |
| Neim-Ya'shar THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 33451814 02/01/2013 04:49 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L. Quoting: christian WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom. [link to www.all.org] Hey susie You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it. They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes. Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy." Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day. For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out. Well when a Church can no longer feed the poor, help there missionaries, help widows, children, the elderly the homeless that is a Church that has either lost it's salt or has been infiltrated by a Godless Government.... well the greedy leaders of the christian orgs should not have sold out.They let all the evils in and this is in every aspect the church is not what it should be anymore Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/01/2013 04:50 PM "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA! ![]() |
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| Neim-Ya'shar THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 33451814 02/01/2013 04:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why do you think preachers cannot openly talk about the ills gays and lesbians? its because of the 501c agreement.Uncle sam owns the church as well as the property the church sits on "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA! ![]() |
| christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 02/01/2013 04:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L. Quoting: christian WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom. [link to www.all.org] Hey susie You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it. They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes. Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy." Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day. For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out. Well when a Church can no longer feed the poor, help there missionaries, help widows, children, the elderly the homeless that is a Church that has either lost it's salt or has been infiltrated by a Godless Government.... well the greedy leaders of the christian orgs should not have sold out.They let all the evils in and this is in every aspect the church is not what it should be anymore That is the entire message of the Letter to the 7 Churches in the Revelation... Only one of them were found worthy to do the work that was intended for the Church in spreading the gospel to the nations... Susie For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12 |
| Neim-Ya'shar THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 33451814 02/01/2013 04:57 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long ago in the biblical days believers assembled at homes for worship and prayer. Notice yeshsiyeh few journeys to jerusalem to the temple everywhere else was in open spaces or someones home Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/01/2013 04:58 PM "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA! ![]() |
| christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 02/01/2013 04:57 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why do you think preachers cannot openly talk about the ills gays and lesbians? its because of the 501c agreement.Uncle sam owns the church as well as the property the church sits on Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar However it is not only the Church that are loosing it's Constitutional rights.... Susie For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12 |
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| ParadigmShift User ID: 31231991 02/01/2013 05:05 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L. Quoting: christian WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom. [link to www.all.org] Hey susie You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it. They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes. Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy." Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day. For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out. Once again you have proven yourself very versed and insightful. Why people attack you I am not sure. Not to take away from OP, great thread. Neim takes it one level deeper though. ![]() "He is a heretic who does not believe what the Roman Hierarchy teaches. --A heretic merits the pains of fire. --By the Gospel, the canons, civil law, and custom."--148, 169 Humble and obedient. Calls herself “the handmaid of the Lord.” The Pope officially gave Mary the title “Queen of Heaven” and established a feast day honoring Mary, Queen of Heaven. Wiccans call their goddess the “Queen of Heaven”. “The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, Himself, hidden under the veil of human flesh.” — Catholic National, July 1895. |
| Neim-Ya'shar THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 33451814 02/01/2013 05:08 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why do you think preachers cannot openly talk about the ills gays and lesbians? its because of the 501c agreement.Uncle sam owns the church as well as the property the church sits on Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar However it is not only the Church that are loosing it's Constitutional rights.... it is everyone as you see because it is written that the whole earth is given over to the wicked..The magistrates are corrupt the politicians and financiers. I like western movies and you learn so much from these movies about the bullying that happened and is still happening THE BANKER comes in to build railroads with Investors The banker sends out people of flattery to decieve the uneducated The banker then gets the SHERIFF THE JUDGE AND THE WEALTHY CITIZENS AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY BOARD MEMBERS in his corner. They then employ hired gunmen to burn out the homesteaders who take a stance. Where is the church? they were already programmed to be gentle little lambs and not stand up for their rights by being overly passive.This was the new doctrine so everything could have been taken away from them.They were taught a soft little baby jesus with a lamb around his neck and speaking in soft feminine tones The mexicans as a good example the catholics dumbed them down and made them passive prey, and did not know how to defend them selves. See the magnificent 7 Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/01/2013 05:26 PM "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA! ![]() |
| christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 02/01/2013 05:12 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why do you think preachers cannot openly talk about the ills gays and lesbians? its because of the 501c agreement.Uncle sam owns the church as well as the property the church sits on Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar However it is not only the Church that are loosing it's Constitutional rights.... it is severyone as you see because it is written that the whole earth is fiven over to the wicked..The magistrates are corrupt the politicians and rhw finaciers. Ilike western movies and you learn so much from these movies about the bullying that happened and is still happening THE BANKER comes in to build ralroads with Investors The banker sends out people of flattery to decieve the uneducated The banker then gets the SHERIFF THE JUDGE AND THE WEALTHY CITIZENS AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY BOARD MEMBERS in his corner. They then employ hired gunmen to burn out the homesteaders who take a stance. Where is the church? they were already programmed to be gentle little lambs and not stand up for their rights by being overly passive.This was the new doctrine so everything could have been taken away from them.They weer taught a soft little baby jesus with a lamb around his neck and speaking in soft feminine tones You have to brainwash people first to get them to do that You have to guilt them into it.... You have to shroud an ideology under a banner of deception.... The Church that is Lukewarm will fall under that kind of pressure.. Susie For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33334348 02/01/2013 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | or perhaps let gays and lesbians adopt muslim orphans.... i'm all for that at least they'll cut our heads off with sensitivity, and care, and maybe the odd throw or two, and plenty of cushions in the room as well, to give it some ambience |
| Neim-Ya'shar THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 33451814 02/01/2013 05:17 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why do you think preachers cannot openly talk about the ills gays and lesbians? its because of the 501c agreement.Uncle sam owns the church as well as the property the church sits on Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar However it is not only the Church that are loosing it's Constitutional rights.... it is severyone as you see because it is written that the whole earth is fiven over to the wicked..The magistrates are corrupt the politicians and rhw finaciers. Ilike western movies and you learn so much from these movies about the bullying that happened and is still happening THE BANKER comes in to build ralroads with Investors The banker sends out people of flattery to decieve the uneducated The banker then gets the SHERIFF THE JUDGE AND THE WEALTHY CITIZENS AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY BOARD MEMBERS in his corner. They then employ hired gunmen to burn out the homesteaders who take a stance. Where is the church? they were already programmed to be gentle little lambs and not stand up for their rights by being overly passive.This was the new doctrine so everything could have been taken away from them.They weer taught a soft little baby jesus with a lamb around his neck and speaking in soft feminine tones You have to brainwash people first to get them to do that You have to guilt them into it.... You have to shroud an ideology under a banner of deception.... The Church that is Lukewarm will fall under that kind of pressure.. That is the status of the church today cold and frosting and sold out to every evil idealogy and use the name of Jesus as a prop. I believe with some good house cleaning coming back to the word in its entirety we will see the miracles and the healings but the house of worship is filthy and the spirit will not take residence in such "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA! ![]() |
| Neim-Ya'shar THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 33451814 02/01/2013 05:19 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L. Quoting: christian WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom. [link to www.all.org] Hey susie You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it. They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes. Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy." Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day. For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out. Once again you have proven yourself very versed and insightful. Why people attack you I am not sure. Not to take away from OP, great thread. Neim takes it one level deeper though. ![]() hey brother how are you? "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA! ![]() |
| Organic Light User ID: 8545334 02/01/2013 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is the understatement of the year. Christians have beat the drum with the Zionist political agenda since 9/11, and have cheered while millions of innocent have died. A moral and good person will not be influenced to do evil by proxy. Researcher: Historical Revisionist Gaia-Sophia's Correction |
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| christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 02/01/2013 05:37 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is the understatement of the year. Christians have beat the drum with the Zionist political agenda since 9/11, and have cheered while millions of innocent have died. Quoting: Organic Light A moral and good person will not be influenced to do evil by proxy. When you let your guard down, the lion lurks and that is when you are attacked..... This is what has happened to society and the church.... Susie For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12 |
| Neim-Ya'shar THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 33451814 02/01/2013 05:38 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is the understatement of the year. Christians have beat the drum with the Zionist political agenda since 9/11, and have cheered while millions of innocent have died. Quoting: Organic Light A moral and good person will not be influenced to do evil by proxy. Unfortunately the good ones get bLamed because they are the lower level of this heirachy.It is so dangerous at times I tell people not hate because of religious differences because the muslim sees chriStians as the men in white with the red cross when they hear the word christian. The christian sees muhammad with a sword. But the war is about an act of revenge on the roman establishment of this modern christianity that butchered innocent families who stuck to truth from since 70ad to the dark ages. Vice versa the mohammedians are remembered for their slaughter on inoccent families to convert to islam long after in the year 600ad. The bottom line the war is not against and individual but the evil entities created out of hatred and lost for power and it is masked by feign godliness. We have been tricked to hate each other and put one race over another due to this new movement called Christianity, Jesus called us all out of every nation and tongue to be disciples and followers of his laws commands and statutes Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/01/2013 05:43 PM "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA! ![]() |
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| RockHall User ID: 33005678 02/01/2013 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neither the Bushes nor Obama ever cared about the U.S. Constitution. George W. called it a "goddam piece of paper," but Obama has done a better job of destroying it. It was Bush I who introduced the utter destruction (and condemnation) of it by calling for a "New World Order" which would end the sovereignty of all existing nations, including ours. I think that Television made all this possible. Without it, people would have to think for themselves. "I think, therefore I am..." René Descartes "I don't think, therefore I am not..." RockHall |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33285090 02/01/2013 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L. Quoting: christian WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom. [link to www.all.org] Hey susie You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it. They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes. Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy." Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day. For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out. Well when a Church can no longer feed the poor, help there missionaries, help widows, children, the elderly the homeless that is a Church that has either lost it's salt or has been infiltrated by a Godless Government.... Its not that a church can no longer feed the poor, help their missionaries, help widows, children, the elderly, the homeless, its because they do not want to help them. They are to tied up in the things of this world/ Homes, cars, clothes, diamonds etc. etc. According to the preachers If the dumb sheep do not tithe they cannot call God their Father, but if the greedy dogs I mean preachers does not help their flock, it is ok. Quit giving to these huckters and their money will dry up, maybe they will go get them a real job. Preachers are liars, they always lie. |
| AdHocBOHICA User ID: 32335824 02/01/2013 05:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L. Quoting: christian WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom. [link to www.all.org] Hey susie You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it. They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes. Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy." Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day. For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out. ![]() ![]() -- "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince". |
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