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Obama Administration: "We Will Still Force Christians to Act Against Their Faith..."

 
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NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L.

WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.


The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom.


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 Quoting: christian


Hey susie

You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it.

They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes.

Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his


Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy."

Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day.

For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out.
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Hey, you are a moron if you believe this.
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NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L.

WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.


The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom.


[link to www.all.org]
 Quoting: christian


Hey susie

You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it.

They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes.

Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his


Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy."

Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day.

For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Hey, you are a moron if you believe this.
 Quoting: FASNYC 30782676


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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Hey susie

You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it.

They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes.

Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his


Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy."

Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day.

For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



Once again you have proven yourself very versed and insightful. Why people attack you I am not sure.

Not to take away from OP, great thread. Neim takes it one level deeper though.
clappa
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hey brother how are you?
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Blessed by your posts as usual. You have brought much truth and wisdom

hf
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


and encouraged by you thank you
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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If the health care plan is forced into the religious organisation then that organisation must just use the sections they need and ignore the other parts they find immoral, what does not taste good you don't put it in your mouth even if you are forced to pay for it and teach the congregation. This has been typical of all governments since the day it started, nothing has changed, just teach your children what is right and what is wrong to keep their minds sane, it will make them stronger human beings when they are adults. You are handing out money for the sins of others. If a man and a woman wants to get married, (a) you go to the courts and do the legal bit for the country's sake and for the paper trail sake, and (b) the next day you have your own private wedding in your house using a beloved believer to conduct your wedding in the sight of God he does not have to be qualified for the job. You have pleased Satan and it never took your soul and you pleased God who is preserving your soul. Many many Christians get married like this quietly and have enjoyed a glorious life together. "Where two or three are gathered in My Midst, I Am with you." The church age period is over but your relationship with your Lord is not, the ark is within you where the Kingdom of God Is. The only force will come into being when they start chopping your heads off, and that is horrific but you are still safe if your are in Christ as He will raise you up, teach your children as the threat of world ownership increases, we are looking at Satan's last performance since he was thrown out of heaven, it is both great and terrible, absorb the great part as we are all born in a time to witness this massive event.
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The proper translation of 2 Corinthians 2:17:

Indeed, we are not, as the many, corrupting by peddling the word of Yahweh, but as of sincerity but as of God in front of God, in Christ we speak.
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are they going to enforce gay marriages in mosques...
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They can't afford to lose their heads...
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Exactly. They will only force people to do their bidding if they feel safe doing so.
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hewp me! hewp me! we're being oppressed!

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sorry, but you get no sympathy from me. in fact christians can suck it.
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He's just talking abot da bitch preacher who didn't leave a tip.
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That is the understatement of the year. Christians have beat the drum with the Zionist political agenda since 9/11, and have cheered while millions of innocent have died.

A moral and good person will not be influenced to do evil by proxy.
 Quoting: Organic Light


Unfortunately the good ones get bLamed because they are the lower level of this heirachy.It is so dangerous at times I tell people not hate because of religious differences because the muslim sees chriStians as the men in white with the red cross when they hear the word christian. The christian sees muhammad with a sword.

But the war is about an act of revenge on the roman establishment of this modern christianity that butchered innocent families who stuck to truth from since 70ad to the dark ages. Vice versa the mohammedians are remembered for their slaughter on inoccent families to convert to islam long after in the year 600ad.

The bottom line the war is not against and individual but the evil entities created out of hatred and lost for power and it is masked by feign godliness.

We have been tricked to hate each other and put one race over another due to this new movement called Christianity,

Jesus called us all out of every nation and tongue to be disciples and followers of his laws commands and statutes

 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I mean, this is so inaccurate and whacky it doesn't really even deserve a response.

In 70 AD the Romans destroyed the temple and killed and ran off the Jews. This was predicted by Jesus, but it had nothing to do with the Christian religion, as such. The Christians had no power and were being martyred themselves by the Romans. It WAS a punishment on the Jews for "not knowing the time of their visitation."

Christianity is the religion established by Jesus Christ. It is now and always has been a religion of peace and love. Christianity, does not pit anyone against anyone.
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According to your church fetuses aren't people. See here:

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That means according to your church there was never ever someone aborted. Abortion does not exist. So what's the problem?
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Christianity is the religion established by Jesus Christ. It is now and always has been a religion of peace and love. Christianity, does not pit anyone against anyone.
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Yahshua NEVER establish or taught "religion" because He wanted the focus to be on the Kingdom of God, which is NOT a set of beliefs, but what God is and what we are in Him.

Yahshua NEVER said anything about being in a state of "peace and love" but of spiritual war, suffering, and obedience. True peace only comes from being in the will of God, but that does not mean it will be in the physical.

Yahshua warned the people follow repeatedly that there was a very high cost in being His disciple, which would pit them against family, friends, government, and the whole world.

I suggest you start actually reading and translating the Bible in depth with the guidance of His Holy Spirit.
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NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L.

WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.


The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom.


[link to www.all.org]
 Quoting: christian


Hey susie

You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it.

They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes.

Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his


Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy."

Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day.

For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out.
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Truth^^
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The government will concede to Atheists, Jews, and Muslims but screw the Christians. What does that say about bias? The Christian populous needs the teeth and fighting spirit of the Muslims and the subversiveness of the Jews. The rapture isn't happening folks, you are alive in the thick of it and it is due to the lack of vigilance.
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If the health care plan is forced into the religious organisation then that organisation must just use the sections they need and ignore the other parts they find immoral, what does not taste good you don't put it in your mouth even if you are forced to pay for it and teach the congregation. This has been typical of all governments since the day it started, nothing has changed, just teach your children what is right and what is wrong to keep their minds sane, it will make them stronger human beings when they are adults. You are handing out money for the sins of others. If a man and a woman wants to get married, (a) you go to the courts and do the legal bit for the country's sake and for the paper trail sake, and (b) the next day you have your own private wedding in your house using a beloved believer to conduct your wedding in the sight of God he does not have to be qualified for the job. You have pleased Satan and it never took your soul and you pleased God who is preserving your soul. Many many Christians get married like this quietly and have enjoyed a glorious life together. "Where two or three are gathered in My Midst, I Am with you." The church age period is over but your relationship with your Lord is not, the ark is within you where the Kingdom of God Is. The only force will come into being when they start chopping your heads off, and that is horrific but you are still safe if your are in Christ as He will raise you up, teach your children as the threat of world ownership increases, we are looking at Satan's last performance since he was thrown out of heaven, it is both great and terrible, absorb the great part as we are all born in a time to witness this massive event.
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NEW HHS RULES FAIL TO RECOGNIZE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION OF ALL AMERICANS: A.L.L.

WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the US Department of Health and Human Services issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.


The NPRM was issued in response to massive ongoing litigation and widespread public outcry against HHS mandates that require employers to provide health insurance that includes free contraceptives, sterilizations, and abortifacients, in direct violation of our constitutionally protected right of religious freedom.


[link to www.all.org]
 Quoting: christian


Hey susie

You got to understand the church institutions sold out their rights when they all signed in to the 501c tax bill. They were being greedy for tax exemptions and now they are paying the price for it.

They are all marching with the beast system and they cannot get out.Again you cannot blame Obama this was in place as the churches prostituted their way not to pay taxes.

Render unto to caesar the things that are caesars and unto God the things that are his


Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy."

Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day.

For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out.
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clappa

Yeah that.

Be very careful who you accept free money from because it is never free.....it always comes with strings attached...and in this case it gave the .gov carte blanche rights to dictate to your church and your religious organization what it will.

SERIOUSLY........YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT????????????
If yes, you are idiots and if no you are still idiots.
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are they going to enforce gay marriages in mosques...
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nope. the new target is Christians.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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Christianity is the religion established by Jesus Christ. It is now and always has been a religion of peace and love. Christianity, does not pit anyone against anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156


Yahshua NEVER establish or taught "religion" because He wanted the focus to be on the Kingdom of God, which is NOT a set of beliefs, but what God is and what we are in Him.

Yahshua NEVER said anything about being in a state of "peace and love" but of spiritual war, suffering, and obedience. True peace only comes from being in the will of God, but that does not mean it will be in the physical.

Yahshua warned the people follow repeatedly that there was a very high cost in being His disciple, which would pit them against family, friends, government, and the whole world.

I suggest you start actually reading and translating the Bible in depth with the guidance of His Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind


"Thou are Peter and upon this Rock I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it."


"And to him that striketh thee on the one cheek, offer also the other. And him that taketh away from thee thy cloak, forbid not to take thy coat also."

"And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity."

"And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries, and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing."

"In this we have known the charity of God, because he hath laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren."

"A new commandment I give unto you: That you love one another, as I have loved you, that you also love one another."


"Bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if any have a complaint against another: even as the Lord hath forgiven you, so do you also."

3"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4Blessed are those who mourn,
For they shall be comforted.
5Blessed are the meek,
For they shall inherit the earth.

6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
For they shall be filled.
7Blessed are the merciful,
For they shall obtain mercy.
8Blessed are the pure in heart,
For they shall see God.
9Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called sons of God.
10Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11"Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
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are they going to enforce gay marriages in mosques...
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nope. the new target is Christians.
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because the mosques did not sellout,he who pays the piper calls the tune

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Oh...

and I forgot to include:



Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, do I give unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, nor let it be afaid.



And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
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I believe this is just a warm up on Christian persecution prior to more serious issues that will confront believers in this not so distant future.
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religious oppression and persecution has begun

‘tis only a matter of time before they begin feeding us to the lions again . . . .

Or, no, wait!

This time,

considering the jungle element is high on the list now,

I fear wewill be eaten by the natives, not the lions
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I believe this is just a warm up on Christian persecution prior to more serious issues that will confront believers in this not so distant future.
 Quoting: Run_to_da_hills


The end time final persecution of true believers will really start, when the father has opened the eyes of the ones who are really obedient and really love him. When these few leave mainstream christainity and go back to the old ways of YEHSHIYEH Jesus, the others will report them to government agencies.
This is when a daughter will report a mother a father will report a son brother against brother because they are awaken from the false system of worship.

Many think I am against christians but I an against the leaders and the position it took by recreating what God gave us into a tradition of mans own imagination.

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/01/2013 08:42 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Be Happy, because it's one day closer to being with Lord Jesus...the Anti-Christ is in the white house and his puppets, the liberal media is beating the drums for their own destruction, but they see it not! Put on a Big Smile, just don't take the rfid chip or you will live with obama and his kind forever! This is part of running the gauntlet, it's your reactions to these various tests, thats being recorded. YOU can talk to God yourself! You don't need organized religion. You are a spark of the Father, so claim your heritage!peacehf
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02/01/2013 08:51 PM
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The government will concede to Atheists, Jews, and Muslims but screw the Christians. What does that say about bias? The Christian populous needs the teeth and fighting spirit of the Muslims and the subversiveness of the Jews. The rapture isn't happening folks, you are alive in the thick of it and it is due to the lack of vigilance.
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thatwas sooooooo beautifully stated- Ahmendasbier i would like to save it, but i donot think i could find my way to my files right now . . . maybe tomorrow
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02/01/2013 09:01 PM
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I believe this is just a warm up on Christian persecution prior to more serious issues that will confront believers in this not so distant future.
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The end time final persecution of true believers will really start, when the father has opened the eyes of the ones who are really obedient and really love him. When these few leave mainstream christainity and go back to the old ways of YEHSHIYEH Jesus, the others will report them to government agencies.
This is when a daughter will report a mother a father will report a son brother against brother because they are awaken from the false system of worship.

Many think I am against christians but I an against the leaders and the position it took by recreating what God gave us into a tradition of mans own imagination.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

Most christians will find this offensive. I actually believe this is so. I left the mainstream church and never want to go back. The people are so asleep and complacent it's very sad.
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02/01/2013 09:07 PM
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I believe this is just a warm up on Christian persecution prior to more serious issues that will confront believers in this not so distant future.
 Quoting: Run_to_da_hills


The end time final persecution of true believers will really start, when the father has opened the eyes of the ones who are really obedient and really love him. When these few leave mainstream christainity and go back to the old ways of YEHSHIYEH Jesus, the others will report them to government agencies.
This is when a daughter will report a mother a father will report a son brother against brother because they are awaken from the false system of worship.

Many think I am against christians but I an against the leaders and the position it took by recreating what God gave us into a tradition of mans own imagination.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


but then again, if youwould check out Mathew, Mark, Luke and John you will fine that Jesus, when asked, that he said those that did the actual turning him over to the courts were the ones with the guilt on their hands, and they were the "Jews" (the We The People) in mass and rioting, so said Jesus, when the "judge", in a state of serious worry, asked Jesus about who was the guilty one in his demise.
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I believe this is just a warm up on Christian persecution prior to more serious issues that will confront believers in this not so distant future.
 Quoting: Run_to_da_hills


The end time final persecution of true believers will really start, when the father has opened the eyes of the ones who are really obedient and really love him. When these few leave mainstream christainity and go back to the old ways of YEHSHIYEH Jesus, the others will report them to government agencies.
This is when a daughter will report a mother a father will report a son brother against brother because they are awaken from the false system of worship.

Many think I am against christians but I an against the leaders and the position it took by recreating what God gave us into a tradition of mans own imagination.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

Most christians will find this offensive. I actually believe this is so. I left the mainstream church and never want to go back. The people are so asleep and complacent it's very sad.
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We in a time when people will not recieve good counsel and be offended because of truth.I am committed to the truth and the backlash and poundings receieved for doing so. When one tells the truth the new thing with christians is that you are judging and that you have no love.

I have learned that love has affection and stern measures also but everybody want the fluffy effeminate JESUS created by the false church.

We have to sound the alarm when the lion comes you will not be playing kenny G silohuette! but a real blast of the trumpet that your family and neigbours will escape
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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02/01/2013 09:19 PM
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I believe this is just a warm up on Christian persecution prior to more serious issues that will confront believers in this not so distant future.
 Quoting: Run_to_da_hills


The end time final persecution of true believers will really start, when the father has opened the eyes of the ones who are really obedient and really love him. When these few leave mainstream christainity and go back to the old ways of YEHSHIYEH Jesus, the others will report them to government agencies.
This is when a daughter will report a mother a father will report a son brother against brother because they are awaken from the false system of worship.

Many think I am against christians but I an against the leaders and the position it took by recreating what God gave us into a tradition of mans own imagination.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


but then again, if youwould check out Mathew, Mark, Luke and John you will fine that Jesus, when asked, that he said those that did the actual turning him over to the courts were the ones with the guilt on their hands, and they were the "Jews" (the We The People) in mass and rioting, so said Jesus, when the "judge", in a state of serious worry, asked Jesus about who was the guilty one in his demise.
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Yes but who were the jews in that context? he was referring not to his bloodline but the citizens of judea.Judea was basically taken over with foriegners and they were born in the land.They took over the temples and government and very few native judeans were in power then. The bible never quite differebtiated the word jew so that the average person can understand which section was being referred to either the hebrew of the jewish citizens

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I believe this is just a warm up on Christian persecution prior to more serious issues that will confront believers in this not so distant future.
 Quoting: Run_to_da_hills


The end time final persecution of true believers will really start, when the father has opened the eyes of the ones who are really obedient and really love him. When these few leave mainstream christainity and go back to the old ways of YEHSHIYEH Jesus, the others will report them to government agencies.
This is when a daughter will report a mother a father will report a son brother against brother because they are awaken from the false system of worship.

Many think I am against christians but I an against the leaders and the position it took by recreating what God gave us into a tradition of mans own imagination.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

Most christians will find this offensive. I actually believe this is so. I left the mainstream church and never want to go back. The people are so asleep and complacent it's very sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14736612


i tried going back to a Presbyterian church in Union City, and found too many of them being downright vicious, let alone not Christian-like. Those suckers scared the sht out of me i couldnot even recoginize them as human let alone Christian.

The Sunday School teacher kept looking more and more like a snake. Her skin on her arms, neck and face kept reminding me of a snake, and her actions were sadistic and frightening.

On one occasion i caught her staring at me, and she continued to do so even after i had caught her doing it. Thatwas when i figured something is wrong here and it is not i. I was afraid to go back after that.
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I believe this is just a warm up on Christian persecution prior to more serious issues that will confront believers in this not so distant future.
 Quoting: Run_to_da_hills


The end time final persecution of true believers will really start, when the father has opened the eyes of the ones who are really obedient and really love him. When these few leave mainstream christainity and go back to the old ways of YEHSHIYEH Jesus, the others will report them to government agencies.
This is when a daughter will report a mother a father will report a son brother against brother because they are awaken from the false system of worship.

Many think I am against christians but I an against the leaders and the position it took by recreating what God gave us into a tradition of mans own imagination.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

Most christians will find this offensive. I actually believe this is so. I left the mainstream church and never want to go back. The people are so asleep and complacent it's very sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14736612


i tried going back to a Presbyterian church in Union City, and found too many of them being downright vicious, let alone not Christian-like. Those suckers scared the sht out of me i couldnot even recoginize them as human let alone Christian.

The Sunday School teacher kept looking more and more like a snake. Her skin on her arms, neck and face kept reminding me of a snake, and her actions were sadistic and frightening.

On one occasion i caught her staring at me, and she continued to do so even after i had caught her doing it. Thatwas when i figured something is wrong here and it is not i. I was afraid to go back after that.
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rolfcopter
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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