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Obama Administration: "We Will Still Force Christians to Act Against Their Faith..."

 
ClydeX

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I believe this is just a warm up on Christian persecution prior to more serious issues that will confront believers in this not so distant future.
 Quoting: Run_to_da_hills


This is the absolute truth.

Let's remind everyone to take the time to hug the children, kiss the wife/ husband, and pat the dog, as I believe the time will be shortly upon us that we'll wish for the opportunity.

Now is the time that we need strong men on their knees, before they're called to stand on the wall.
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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They managed to make it about religion. They couldn't find a terrorist, so now it's about Christians.

Here's the deal. All Americans have the right to say NO, and shove it sideways. It isn't about religion. It's about our natural rights and the Constitutional protections there of.
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Even Satan fears God. But this lunatic in the White House does not.

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They managed to make it about religion. They couldn't find a terrorist, so now it's about Christians.

Here's the deal. All Americans have the right to say NO, and shove it sideways. It isn't about religion. It's about our natural rights and the Constitutional protections there of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29184782

Exactly they are turning on their very own not just christians,look at the history of this place and you see the pattern.No one is exempt from the trouble that is to come and sad to say this nation is so divided, I read some threads here and I tremble to think if people can be so hateful because of ethnicity what will happen when the real heat comes.
This is going to be really bad if folk don't wake up and see that they used religion and sub groups to keep us all divided .Though many cry jesus jesus they are hateful to their brothers and sisters outside their ethnic domain, and this is all across the board black whites asians hispanics

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Neim-Ya'shar

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Even Satan fears God. But this lunatic in the White House does not.
 Quoting: NightWisp


Obammy is doing what he was created for just like pharaoh.We have to just be watchful and be cunning and wise but as strong like the lion of judah
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Christianity is the religion established by Jesus Christ. It is now and always has been a religion of peace and love. Christianity, does not pit anyone against anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156


Yahshua NEVER establish or taught "religion" because He wanted the focus to be on the Kingdom of God, which is NOT a set of beliefs, but what God is and what we are in Him.

Yahshua NEVER said anything about being in a state of "peace and love" but of spiritual war, suffering, and obedience. True peace only comes from being in the will of God, but that does not mean it will be in the physical.

Yahshua warned the people follow repeatedly that there was a very high cost in being His disciple, which would pit them against family, friends, government, and the whole world.

I suggest you start actually reading and translating the Bible in depth with the guidance of His Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind


"Thou are Peter and upon this Rock I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it."


"And to him that striketh thee on the one cheek, offer also the other. And him that taketh away from thee thy cloak, forbid not to take thy coat also."

"And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity."

"And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries, and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing."

"In this we have known the charity of God, because he hath laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren."

"A new commandment I give unto you: That you love one another, as I have loved you, that you also love one another."


"Bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if any have a complaint against another: even as the Lord hath forgiven you, so do you also."

3"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4Blessed are those who mourn,
For they shall be comforted.
5Blessed are the meek,
For they shall inherit the earth.

6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
For they shall be filled.
7Blessed are the merciful,
For they shall obtain mercy.
8Blessed are the pure in heart,
For they shall see God.
9Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called sons of God.
10Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11"Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156


Jesus talked about the Kingdom of God/Heaven and said many time He was THE ROCK, not "this" (bad translation ignores the "THE"). Either you stumble upon it or you will be crushed by it. Peter was the first stone laid next to HIM (Ephesians 2:20).

Matthew 10:21 Brother will deliver brother over to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death, and you will be hated by all for my name’s sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.

Matthew 10:34-36 Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household.

Luke 12:51-3 Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division. For from now on in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

Matthew 11:12 From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force.

Luke 16:16 The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone forces his way into it.

Do not ignore what Yahshua had taught that I had mentioned. You cannot understand one (true love = obedience to the Father through the Holy Spirit, not religion) without the other (the struggle of protecting the whole Truth and creating disciples). Without war, you will never understand true peace, and our battle is spiritual (Ephesians 6:10-20)--the biggest enemy is self. The blessings are for those who endure suffering for the creation of disciples. Only in true persecution will this be finally understood.

True peace = Sabbath = staying in the will of Yah like Jesus did.
True love = faith in His will = doing nothing but the Father's will just like Jesus did.

The word charity is NOT the correct translation of agape; phileo is the word for strong affection or friendship, only used once in Scripture. Research it and trust no English translation.

All religion does is what it always did, slow down people's spiritual progression. You are the new Pharisee, for you do not know Him directly because you believe your religion is the key. Come out of her, grow up and make disciples like He said!
Neim-Ya'shar

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Psalms 44:22 Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.
Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.



17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.

Matthew 10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.

25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.


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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Why is that in quotation marks? They never even implied that. The second point I wanna make is, why is it that Christians will lobby to make abortion and gay rights illegal for everyone but winge and bitch when that turns around on them? Double standards me thinks.
Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.
~ Christopher Hitchens.

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