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EUKARYOTIC CELLS - A Devastating Blow For the Fairytale of Evolution

 
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Not a 'serious blow'.

The thing is that any problem discovered....science allows for the theory to be re-worked, adapted and ultimately become stronger.

The problem with creation theory is that it is static, it is religious dogma that can never be changed or adapted. It is the way it was written and that's that.

But hey if it works for you, its all good.
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I can respect that...

however, science itself is likely just a poem of consciousness... just one way to make something work within the Divine intelligence, like a rocket or a wheel... but not the only way to get around... someone always seems to have a vested interest in making things look dynamic while keeping things static, speaking of static...

science is a nice way to spin wheels and enslave ourselves, near as I can tell...

anything that re-enforces the bible and creationism is ignored... like evidence for giants or dinosaurs co-existing w humans...

everything is always spun to support the dominant paradigm... there is no honest science... if there was it would support the bible story and perhaps refine some of it... there are many questions the bible does not answer...

hf
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checkmate.
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Long time no see!

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good vid...
but it still DOES NOT PROVE GOD.

bring me your god, show me your god, introduce me to your god, then i shall believe your god exists.

it really shouldnt be that difficult.
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depends on what you mean by "prove"

statistically, it is more likely that there is a Divine Intelligence, God, creating this reality and manipulating it for harvest, as our fore-fathers wrote that Jesus spoke, concerning the nature and purpose of this reality...
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in other words, why not listen to the wisdom handed down to us directly over the obviously contrived modern dogma of evolution...

it'd be like if your grandfather gave you a golden cup and you tossed it away and chose to drink water from plastic bottles... oh wait...

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I five starred this for the animation alone. The Carl Gallups commentary wasn't that compelling. He did a decent job describing the inner organelles of Euraryotic organisms, but didn't real prove that evolution wasn't responsible. Bold claims require bold data to back up his assertions and he failed in that.

I'm a arch-conservative Christian and studied the sciences at the graduate level and so of course I believe some blend of how life began, but of course I know that God made all of Creation. I'm not worried if Evolution was or wasn't the method utilized. I really don't see why people think it is or isn't.

As Christians, if the goal is to witness especially to the scientific intellectuals, then using Science as a teaching tool requires a lot of hard core experts not the average layman. This is why over and over, most Christians actually do a disservice to the Gospel by arguing about Evolution.

You must think on this. The route to altering someone's spiritual journey is almost always through the heart, that is the soul of a person, not the brain. Very few people chose Christianity through intellectual means.

A long time ago, much of homiletics was done by trying to create more and more persuasive arguments, but that doesn't work especially with Post-Moderns. It's a waste of energy and a using a very old pre-1950 paradigm.

What does work is showing wonder at creation, for it is inescapably lovely and intricate and only the most cold folks can not sense a Supreme Being by walking through a forest or meadow. Looing into the vast firmament of the myriad stars is one such way, and the upcoming Comet ISON will be a chance to discuss the wonder of a cosmic snowball being hurled in an elyptical orbit past our Earth.

Talk about Jesus. Who can argue with His words of such magnificent love, His altrusim, and honor. These things are compelling about our faith. More time about Jesus and less time about Evolution.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


Well, I guess you'll have to take that up with Jesus Himself since He placed it on my heart to post this here today.

hf
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I spoke to Jesus about an hour ago, I brought up this post and he made it very clear that he was no where near your heart today and does not support what you've written.

Jesus also asked me if it ever crossed your tiny little mind that evolution itself could be the mechanism by which his father created diversity on Earth and made it so that the fittest of his children would inherit the Earth.

And just so we're clear, if you don't believe me, you just don't have enough faith, and refuse to fully let Jesus into your heart. Because with this very post, I have done the one thing that provides rock solid proof of divine intervention to the religious-minded.

I've written it down.
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Brilliant. There is so much more evidence to point towards intelligent design than evolution that I wonder why there is still any argument. Of course there is a commandment that Says "Thou shall not have any other gods before me" so I think there's plenty of room for us to consider that intelligent design could be accomplished by someone other than the God of the bible, too.

Design of a universe by the one, true God, is a majestic stage beset with many players.

Evolution is real, but it could not exist without intelligent design.

* edited for typos because I'm using a phone

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Jesus just told me evolution exists, we then proceeded to laugh at how the mentally handicapped dude who wrote the bible was convinced the earth is flat.


har har har.
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I knew intelligent design was real. Excellent. Now I'm going to become a Hindu.
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Go Brahman! You the man!
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Thanks Lisa, keep it up :)

If it helps or even influences, only one person, and lead them to God and Christ, it'll be all worth it.

If it doesn't, it's still worth it, since your doing his will, by fulfilling the Great Commission.
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You're a moron,and what's more,a particularly stupid moron.


A belief in God does not preclude a belief in evolution. You seem to think the two are mutually exclusive, they are not.


You are the worst kind of religo-TARD.You most probably don't have the intellectual capacity to truly understand evolution and therefore you fall back on superstition.

You are as bad as the backward-looking Muslims in believing, without questioning, an ancient book.You take the Good Book as fact and as such you are as doomed as the Muslim.


I pity you and your blind,unquestioning obedience.



pope
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I'd probably be able to take religion more seriously if they didn't keep moving the goalposts.
And dismissing the bits that don't fit with their agendas.
How many versions of the bible have there been up to now?
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good vid...
but it still DOES NOT PROVE GOD.

bring me your god, show me your god, introduce me to your god, then i shall believe your god exists.

it really shouldnt be that difficult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9094168


depends on what you mean by "prove"

statistically, it is more likely that there is a Divine Intelligence, God, creating this reality and manipulating it for harvest, as our fore-fathers wrote that Jesus spoke, concerning the nature and purpose of this reality...
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Statistics actually show that you're talking rubbish.
How can you statistically state that about man made fiction?
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Statistics actually show that you're talking rubbish.
How can you statistically state that about man made fiction?
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Dude, why you gotta be so bitter about this discovery that intelligent design is legit?

Get on board with Brahman!
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This thread again? *sigh* get some new material.. it's just so pointless trying to convince people that their beliefs are wrong. I'll think what I want, you can think what you want. If you want to discuss why we think the things we do, that's one thing, but forcing your beliefs on others is rather childish.
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I also have a pile of dead leaves and twigs in my front yard. I guarantee they won't turn into a human being in a few more billion years.
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Lisa, your brain cannot even start to grasp the concept of a billion years.

How can a theory that is 2000 years old compare to a process that has taken a million times this long.

If you start looking at nature with wonderment and curiosity you'll become humble and realise that evolution is just another word for God.

Peace!
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Go Brahman! You the man!
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The perfect god that creates imperfect humans....
And then blames them for its mistakes.
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Science always afirms design and hence Creationism...as it is logical and rational and not based on luck and chance as is the religion of evolution. Faith in design is scientific which is why the great scientists look for the laws behind the creation of the lawmaker... The Lord created all things in harmony not by chance but by design
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Science always afirms design and hence Creationism...as it is logical and rational and not based on luck and chance as is the religion of evolution. Faith in design is scientific which is why the great scientists look for the laws behind the creation of the lawmaker... The Lord created all things in harmony not by chance but by design
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"chance" and "luck" seem like curse words in your mouth.

Why?
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Since a TV is less complex, and not even conscious, statistically, would it not be more likely that a TV could evolve naturally over time, and spontaneously appear.
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Radios appear, maybe they just have to evolve?



Speaking of Australia, if you crave complexity, marsupial niche differentiation is mind boggling.
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Dear IDiot,

Eukaryotes show the very essence of evolution. Take the humble mitochondria complete with its own rudimentary genome. Guess what the genome looks like? It resembles a bacterial genome. What does this mean? It means a long long time ago these cells combined to form what is known as the eukaryotic cell. Hmmm...evolution is correct. Open your brain. As for these movies? They represent models that scientists use to envision the inner workings of cells. It is by know means what it actually looks like.
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Not a 'serious blow'.

The thing is that any problem discovered....science allows for the theory to be re-worked, adapted and ultimately become stronger.

The problem with creation theory is that it is static, it is religious dogma that can never be changed or adapted. It is the way it was written and that's that.

But hey if it works for you, its all good.
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Too bad science has merely become the new religion for the godless masses.

Question it and you are a heretic.
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Man operates in the realm of sense knowledge and is very limited (currently). God on the other land is limitless in His knowledge and has so stated "the wisdom of man is foolishness to Me...". Evolution is the Godless mans attempt to explain what God created.
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[link to news.yahoo.com]

Blinded by the light? I think not, more like clouded in fear and ignorance. These creation tales are preposterous nonsense much like all religious dogma. Believe what you want, just don't try to shove it down everyone else's throat....
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[link to news.yahoo.com]

Blinded by the light? I think not, more like clouded in fear and ignorance. These creation tales are preposterous nonsense much like all religious dogma. Believe what you want, just don't try to shove it down everyone else's throat....
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Did you come here, read and comment because you were forced to? Of course not, you wanted to.

The only ones who are afraid are the ones who deny God, and they do have good reason to be afraid.
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From prokaryotes to eukaryotes
[link to evolution.berkeley.edu]
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From prokaryotes to eukaryotes
[link to evolution.berkeley.edu]
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I guess you didn't watch the videos in the original post. I'm not going to get into a debate with you here about evolution because it's nonsense and not worth the time or energy.......and besides, i like you..........and i'd like to keep it that way.

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