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So fucking annoying! All these "knowledge" just to create a system where people can be black-mailed for liking to eat shit, fuck little children, be fisted in the ass.

All, of course, in their very verenated "mystical" affectation!

The fucking criminal dirty murderous fags.
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I've noticed a lot of comments like this one from Brazil, is it the same person, or are there a lot of retards with this mindset?

WAKE UP! Dont you hate it when someone lies to you? You have bought into the idiotic LIES about the Illuminati! YOU SHOULD BE ANGRY ABOUT THAT!!

Or are you just a troll?
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The Mithraic Degrees of the Illuminati

In later times, the Greek Pythagorean degrees were restyled according to a Roman system. The seven standard degrees became those of Mithraism, a mystery religion closely related to Illumination:

Standard degrees

1st: Corax (the Raven), under the rule of Mercury.
2nd: Nymphus (the Bride), under the rule of Venus.
3rd: Miles (the Soldier), under the rule of Mars.
4th: Leo (the Lion), under the rule of Jupiter.
5th: Perses (the Persian), under the rule of the Moon.
6th: Heliodromus (the Sun Runner), under the rule of the Sun.
7th: Pater (the Father), under the rule of Saturn.

The Mystery Degrees

8th: Minerva (symbolised by an owl - the Owl of Minerva).
9th: Magus (symbolised by the phoenix, the sacred firebird that rises from the ashes).
10th: Deus Absconditus (the Hidden God, Abraxas, symbolised by the Tetraktys).

(The last of the four major Illuminati symbols is the skull and crossbones in honour of Simon Magus. The Greek Sphinx also has special significance.)

These remain the degrees of the Illuminati. The majority of members belong to the standard degrees; the 10th degree is for the 12 members of the Ruling Council only. The identities of the Ruling Council are completely unknown to the basic membership, but at each initiation, one masked member of the Ruling Council is always in attendance and conducts the final part of the ceremony.

There were ten degrees in total because, for Pythagoras, the number 10 was divine. 1, 2, 3 and 4 were also revered because they add up to 10 and they form the divine triangle - the Tetraktys - which symbolized the four elements (earth, air, fire, and water) and, in its totality, also the mystical fifth essence, the Quintessence.
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The Fifth Element is the Purple and Blue Parochet curtain that the Initiate walks thru when they are done with all their incarnations. To walk thru the curtain means immortal life and the chance to witness the face of God


The Temple God that was erected in the wilderness when Moses led them out... had a curtain divider that separated the Holy of Holies from the Most Holy that was dyed purple and blue.

The Temple was a layout of mans journey to immortality, From the desert of pain to the ecstasy of unification with God.


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my grandfather was a freemason..he died before i could talk to him about it, but apparently he was the chief legislator of his branch..what degree do you think he would be
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I'm not really sure, he would have to be a high ranking member to have any title of Chief.
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thats what i figured...thank you...

maybe i should try and join
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Read up on it first and see if its right for you. I initially made my mind to join a couple years ago and my friend showed me a piece of paper that made me think I should learn a little about it first that way I didn't get buried up to my neck.
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The Fifth Element is the Purple and Blue Parochet curtain that the Initiate walks thru when they are done with all their incarnations. To walk thru the curtain means immortal life and the chance to witness the face of God


The Temple God that was erected in the wilderness when Moses led them out... had a curtain divider that separated the Holy of Holies from the Most Holy that was dyed purple and blue.

The Temple was a layout of mans journey to immortality, From the desert of pain to the ecstasy of unification with God.


:shimmer:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33446875


The Pythagorean Illuminati repudiate anything Abrahamic, & that includes the very dubious 'messenger of 'God' ' Moses.

If you're that interested in the Illuminati why dont you read up on the truth? I've given you the link many times!
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my grandfather was a freemason..he died before i could talk to him about it, but apparently he was the chief legislator of his branch..what degree do you think he would be
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I'm not really sure, he would have to be a high ranking member to have any title of Chief.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33508770


thats what i figured...thank you...

maybe i should try and join
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12786980


Read up on it first and see if its right for you. I initially made my mind to join a couple years ago and my friend showed me a piece of paper that made me think I should learn a little about it first that way I didn't get buried up to my neck.
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i have..ive been invited to a lodge before but decided against it
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Hey Bro :)
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Good light to you Bro. Nice to see you Nice Boots Billy.

Cool video and song. I went to school with Gwen Stefani. We were both Loara Saxons. Cool chick who went far with her talents.
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The Fifth Element is the Purple and Blue Parochet curtain that the Initiate walks thru when they are done with all their incarnations. To walk thru the curtain means immortal life and the chance to witness the face of God


The Temple God that was erected in the wilderness when Moses led them out... had a curtain divider that separated the Holy of Holies from the Most Holy that was dyed purple and blue.

The Temple was a layout of mans journey to immortality, From the desert of pain to the ecstasy of unification with God.


:shimmer:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33446875


The Pythagorean Illuminati repudiate anything Abrahamic, & that includes the very dubious 'messenger of 'God' ' Moses.

If you're that interested in the Illuminati why dont you read up on the truth? I've given you the link many times!
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Have you been initiated into the Illuminati? All faiths are a means unto a end.. The Abrahamic faiths were custodians for aspects of science including planetary transits and sun dials, annd electromagnetic energy properties and genetic DNA composition all hidden in the symbology of its temple and rituals. Its the same Priesthood out of Egypt, Babylon nad Sumer that held the secrets of high science

All a means unto a end which is science.
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The Pythagorean Degrees of the Illuminati

Standard degrees

1st: The Heaven of the Fixed Stars.
2nd: Kronos (Saturn). Kronos was the leader of the Titans. (He castrated his father Uranus, thus taking his power from him. He ruled the world during the mythological Golden Age. He was the father of the Olympian gods. He was overthrown by his son Zeus, and he and the other Titans were bound in the underworld.)
3rd: Zeus (Jupiter, Jove). The king of the Olympian gods.
4th: Ares (Mars). The god of war.
5th: Helios (Sol). The sun.
6th: Aphrodite (Venus). The goddess of love and beauty.
7th: Hermes (Mercury). The messenger of the gods.

Mystery Degrees

8th: Selene (Luna). The moon.
9th: Gaia (Terra Mater). The earth.
10th: Antichthon. The counter-earth.

Antichthon is the highest degree because it represents the opportunity for humanity to transform itself beyond recognition. While this earth is corrupt, wicked and fallen, the counter-earth offers the promise of the complete opposite: paradise, free of the malignant influence of the Demiurge and the Old World Order. Antichthon, the counter-earth, is what the earth can and should be.

Why does a person who calls himself Knights Templar buy into nonsense like this post?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33446875


I AM not an official Knights Templar, but from my understanding what you posted above has nothing to do with the official Templars. In addition, that was over 2500 years ago and things were much different back then. A time when the Gods ruled the earth and minds and also when there we various giants and even Amazons who walked the earth. You probably think they never existed as well?

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:7 Lib:


Hey Bro :)
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Good light to you Bro. Nice to see you Nice Boots Billy.

Cool video and song. I went to school with Gwen Stefani. We were both Loara Saxons. Cool chick who went far with her talents.
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Very Cool :)

Small world really
hf
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free masonry is watered down old age gibberish that largely resembles new age mumbo jumbo where members heap stupid amounts of cash into compromised charities the majority of members may not even give a shit about. Freemasons have a lot of the same generic restrictions as Brahmans like sexism. The dues are very high and they increase as you go up in rank, so basically you buy your level.
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The Abrahamic religions were not backwards by far. They were custodians of our Forefathers knowledge from the Stars. The Elohim, the Shining Ones, the original Illuminati.


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Why does no one ever talk about the 13th degree of the York Rite?
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What is the 13th degree of the York Rite about? Please explain....
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Moe, I have a 32 degree Freemason friend. Why dont you ask him? He would say he is not Illuminati. But then again, he would explain, its a interchangeable term if you understand what Freemason means. "Phree Messen" children of the Sun and Illuminati means, Enlightened.

But formally they are not of the same group. Illuminati are more into the scientific aspects of faith and Freemasons are into the symbology.
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Hey Apollo,

Thanks for joining in brother.

The purpose of the posting was to discuss Mr. Wrights claims. Do I think that the Scottish Rite or Freemasons are illuminati? No. The title of my post was to garnish interest because as you well know, you have to sensationalize your titles and stories to get people's attention since it is so short.

In any event, they do wield a lot of power and the founders of our country and many powerful men around the world hold 33rd degrees. Their motto is ORDO AB CHAO. Much of what we see posted is CHAO and misinformation that of course I do not believe and some I know as fact.

The alleged Illuminati, there is nothing but BS and misinformation everywhere. No facts or anything that can be verified. If I was to guess, I would say they would be the controllers of religion, education and science via the Vatican, Jesuits etc. and that I personally believe they are united as one now. Even though they are separate. What do you know about this?

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OK, but my understanding is that the Scottish Rite is Christian branch of Freemasonry and the York Rite is not. Is that true? Also, rumor has it that the York Rite cannot call themselves Knights Templars anymore. Have you heard this?
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Scottish Rite is more philosophical in their acts if you understand what I'm saying.

York rite favors the way our Military practices in ceremony.

To the best of my knowledge the Order of the Templar is a separate yet related order. Kind of like the Fraternal order of Oddfellows.

I know some symbols are used in the York and Scottish rites, yet they are different in the end.

I think all of the different branches make up on tree of life so to speak. Philosophy, Chivalry, Religion, and Spirituality.

I won't lie to you in saying that I am a Mason, however I do come from a long line of Masons and I was told the best path to take is that of study before you petition.
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Thanks for the comment and honesty. My understanding based on reading their books is that the Scottish Rite is more esoteric which was founded in France and it is also more Christian based while also International by respecting various nationalities, customs and the rites that are incorporated into their degrees. After all, the goal has always been a one world order.

An the York Rite, or the American Rite, up to the 32 degree are essentially not Christian until once you reach the Knights Templar, that is when you will need to profess a belief in Christian doctrine.

Hence, both branches of Freemasonry are essentially Christian based and work had and hand with the founders of the Christian religion who happen to be in Rome.
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Honestly its hard to say what their ideas are without joining them.

For instance their most basic symbol would have been an executable blasphemy if any had let slip the truth what it meant, yet they have their own version of the Christian bible and their basic ideas were started by Solomon. In a religious sense I would say that they are Judea/Christian.

The York Rite is a continuation of the Blue lodge as opposed to Scottish Rite which follows the Red lodge. The degrees end at 33 and 13, 33 for the Scottish Rite and 13 for the York Rite.

The Templar Order has never had any proof of any influence on Either the Scottish or York rites of Freemasonry until the Revival and adoption of the Order of the Templar by Freemasons. Like I said they do share some symbols but all religions and ideas have similarities.

However, there is a chance that some Templars escaping persecution found safe harbor around the time of the unification of the four lodges in Scotland however Freemasonry was developing on its own at the time anyway, there was never any proof that there was any link at all.

One could say that "Some" Masons are Templars yet not all Masons are.
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I agree that there is not much proof of anything and everything is open to speculation. It is a pyramid structure of power and my purpose of this thread is not to expose it, but discuss what Mr. Wright is saying in the video. After all, my ancestors I believe were on all sides of these secret societies, Templars and church.
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Words and Words and circles within and without circles...

I know this:

It is the central bankers and the myriad of corporations that spring up around them that are TPTB. Builderburgers, Trilateral Commision, CFR etc...

Various Fraternities are just that and generally promote higher values and some even High knowledge and some even Sacred High Magic. I'm well aware where High Masons go who are seeking the spiritual path.

These "illuminating" fraternities are nothing to fear though I grant not every member of every fraternitie is going to be the nicest of people but it is rather the dark cabal who wallow in their filthy money that ruin the planet that we need to worry about.

Their may be a few dark fraternities, we've all heard the name skull and bones for example...

Frater

PS And yes, Knight Templar is a priesthood and they perform a Catholic style Christian eucharistic mass. I've attended. Not much use for riding around on horses cutting peoples heads off these daze :)

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Have you been initiated into the Illuminati? All faiths are a means unto a end.. The Abrahamic faiths were custodians for aspects of science including planetary transits and sun dials, annd electromagnetic energy properties and genetic DNA composition all hidden in the symbology of its temple and rituals. Its the same Priesthood out of Egypt, Babylon nad Sumer that held the secrets of high science

All a means unto a end which is science.
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Huh?????

So let's get this straight: You're saying that the same organization that burned people alive for daring to say that the world wasn't flat promoted the ideals you mention above?

We've been down this road before Apollo, or whatever the hell you are calling yourself these days.

The Illuminati has never numbered more than a few thousand members. A truly secret society cannot hope to retain its secrets if it reveals them to too many people. When the Illuminati attempts to spread its ideas to a wider audience, it does so via carefully chosen religions, organisations, secret societies and esoteric orders. These groups are often led by members of the Illuminati, but are not party to the core secrets of the Illuminati. They are given a flavour of the central ideas of Illumination, but are denied the complete picture. Even if these groups were to turn against the Illuminati, they would not be able to betray any primary secrets.

The Illuminati have created the following movements in the course of history: Ancient Egyptian and Greek Mystery religions, Druidism, Mithraism, most versions of Gnosticism, Alchemy, Catharism (Albigensianism), the Knights Templar, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism.

Illuminati teachings have appeared, albeit in distorted form, in Christianity, Kabbalah, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism and many other religions. The religions furthest removed from Illumination are Islam, mainstream Judaism, and numerous Christian sects that have appeared since the Reformation.

All religions based on faith rather than knowledge are contrary to Illumination. All religions that do not teach reincarnation are contrary to Illumination. All religions that posit a benign creator of the earth are contrary to Illumination. All religions that place humanity in an automatically degraded state in relation to divine reality are contrary to Illumination. Men and women are not afflicted by "original sin". They are not guilty from the moment they are born as some religions would contend. They are not condemned by the sins of others (e.g. "Adam and Eve"). They are not subject to Christian predestination. They are not subject to Karma.

The essence of Illumination lies in the word "Becoming". Religions such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam are based on "Being". Those who understand the difference between being and becoming will start to see how Illumination offers a radically different worldview, one that is utterly breathtaking in the opportunities it offers to humanity.

If you want to continue with your deranged beliefs then I'm just going to wash my hands of your progress.
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The Pythagorean Degrees of the Illuminati

Standard degrees

1st: The Heaven of the Fixed Stars.
2nd: Kronos (Saturn). Kronos was the leader of the Titans. (He castrated his father Uranus, thus taking his power from him. He ruled the world during the mythological Golden Age. He was the father of the Olympian gods. He was overthrown by his son Zeus, and he and the other Titans were bound in the underworld.)
3rd: Zeus (Jupiter, Jove). The king of the Olympian gods.
4th: Ares (Mars). The god of war.
5th: Helios (Sol). The sun.
6th: Aphrodite (Venus). The goddess of love and beauty.
7th: Hermes (Mercury). The messenger of the gods.

Mystery Degrees

8th: Selene (Luna). The moon.
9th: Gaia (Terra Mater). The earth.
10th: Antichthon. The counter-earth.

Antichthon is the highest degree because it represents the opportunity for humanity to transform itself beyond recognition. While this earth is corrupt, wicked and fallen, the counter-earth offers the promise of the complete opposite: paradise, free of the malignant influence of the Demiurge and the Old World Order. Antichthon, the counter-earth, is what the earth can and should be.

Why does a person who calls himself Knights Templar buy into nonsense like this post?
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So fucking annoying! All these "knowledge" just to create a system where people can be black-mailed for liking to eat shit, fuck little children, be fisted in the ass.

All, of course, in their very verenated "mystical" affectation!

The fucking criminal dirty murderous fags.
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You've been Jones and Icked, lol...

Mr Icke

Just Jones, Icke I, (instead of FYI) = People used to fuck, burn and eat children MUCH, MUCH more in the past than happens now.

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:7 Lib:


Hey Bro :)
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Good light to you Bro. Nice to see you Nice Boots Billy.

Cool video and song. I went to school with Gwen Stefani. We were both Loara Saxons. Cool chick who went far with her talents.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


Very Cool :)

Small world really
hf
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That it is hf

Osiris, Isis and
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Why does no one ever talk about the 13th degree of the York Rite?
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What is it?
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Relatively the same thing, they just go by standard as opposed to metric.
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LOL!
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Ex-32 Degree Freemason and mason defector says, the 33rd Degree Scottish Rite is the Illuminati.

Please see around 11:30 where he starts on Albert Pike, World War III, the war machine and ends by saying that the 33rd degree council of the Scottish Rite and @ 15-17 minutes Vinny Eastwood asks him if they are the Illuminati, and Wright claims they most certainly are the Iluminati. He says it is that simple and the name Illuminati is just a trendy name.

Let's please discuss and please stop looking at Justin Beiber and Jay Z if you are looking for who runs "the show."


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Your avatar has always intrigued me. Is it a personal photo?
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free masonry is watered down old age gibberish that largely resembles new age mumbo jumbo where members heap stupid amounts of cash into compromised charities the majority of members may not even give a shit about. Freemasons have a lot of the same generic restrictions as Brahmans like sexism. The dues are very high and they increase as you go up in rank, so basically you buy your level.
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I AM no Freemason, but it is not gibberish, but more allegory to conceal truths. I do agree that it is more of a club where you move up based on value and what you can give of yourself. But that has been how most all secret societies and brotherhoods have always operated. You pledge an allegiance to support these brotherhoods, fraternities and secret societies when you join under an oath and sometimes under penalty of death and I AM sure this was taken much more serious in the old days.
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The Abrahamic religions were not backwards by far. They were custodians of our Forefathers knowledge from the Stars. The Elohim, the Shining Ones, the original Illuminati.



 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


So you are essentially saying that the Illuminati is the Vatican and Jesuits along with other Abrahamic faiths who may be united with the Pope. Is that correct?

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Huh?????

So let's get this straight: You're saying that the same organization that burned people alive for daring to say that the world wasn't flat promoted the ideals you mention above?

We've been down this road before Apollo, or whatever the hell you are calling yourself these days.

The Illuminati has never numbered more than a few thousand members. A truly secret society cannot hope to retain its secrets if it reveals them to too many people. When the Illuminati attempts to spread its ideas to a wider audience, it does so via carefully chosen religions, organisations, secret societies and esoteric orders. These groups are often led by members of the Illuminati, but are not party to the core secrets of the Illuminati. They are given a flavour of the central ideas of Illumination, but are denied the complete picture. Even if these groups were to turn against the Illuminati, they would not be able to betray any primary secrets.

The Illuminati have created the following movements in the course of history: Ancient Egyptian and Greek Mystery religions, Druidism, Mithraism, most versions of Gnosticism, Alchemy, Catharism (Albigensianism), the Knights Templar, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism.

Illuminati teachings have appeared, albeit in distorted form, in Christianity, Kabbalah, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism and many other religions. The religions furthest removed from Illumination are Islam, mainstream Judaism, and numerous Christian sects that have appeared since the Reformation.

All religions based on faith rather than knowledge are contrary to Illumination. All religions that do not teach reincarnation are contrary to Illumination. All religions that posit a benign creator of the earth are contrary to Illumination. All religions that place humanity in an automatically degraded state in relation to divine reality are contrary to Illumination. Men and women are not afflicted by "original sin". They are not guilty from the moment they are born as some religions would contend. They are not condemned by the sins of others (e.g. "Adam and Eve"). They are not subject to Christian predestination. They are not subject to Karma.

The essence of Illumination lies in the word "Becoming". Religions such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam are based on "Being". Those who understand the difference between being and becoming will start to see how Illumination offers a radically different worldview, one that is utterly breathtaking in the opportunities it offers to humanity.

If you want to continue with your deranged beliefs then I'm just going to wash my hands of your progress.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


On a few points, very good!

Faith based = though shall be spupid and dumb and thou art created beings happy in your unhappiness. You must have faith or you will be whacked with a big stick for all eternity.

Light or Illuminated based = Though art divine beings uncreated at heart. Though mayest improve thyself through mystic knowlege and the lamp of the keryx and/or the hermit, the lamp of occult knowledge to guide our way.

I'm kind of a silly person, but I get it LOL

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Words and Words and circles within and without circles...

I know this:

It is the central bankers and the myriad of corporations that spring up around them that are TPTB. Builderburgers, Trilateral Commision, CFR etc...

Various Fraternities are just that and generally promote higher values and some even High knowledge and some even Sacred High Magic. I'm well aware where High Masons go who are seeking the spiritual path.

These "illuminating" fraternities are nothing to fear though I grant not every member of every fraternitie is going to be the nicest of people but it is rather the dark cabal who wallow in their filthy money that ruin the planet that we need to worry about.

Their may be a few dark fraternities, we've all heard the name skull and bones for example...

Frater

PS And yes, Knight Templar is a priesthood and they perform a Catholic style Christian eucharistic mass. I've attended. Not much use for riding around on horses cutting peoples heads off these daze :)

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Hi Frater and thanks for adding to the discussion.

I agree, but isn't it all ORDO AB CHAO and the ends justifies the means in order to eventually have a heavenly homeland or a Golden Age or has that dream been thrown away
because our current rulers want permanent hell on earth?
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Ex-32 Degree Freemason and mason defector says, the 33rd Degree Scottish Rite is the Illuminati.

Please see around 11:30 where he starts on Albert Pike, World War III, the war machine and ends by saying that the 33rd degree council of the Scottish Rite and @ 15-17 minutes Vinny Eastwood asks him if they are the Illuminati, and Wright claims they most certainly are the Iluminati. He says it is that simple and the name Illuminati is just a trendy name.

Let's please discuss and please stop looking at Justin Beiber and Jay Z if you are looking for who runs "the show."


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Your avatar has always intrigued me. Is it a personal photo?
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Yes and here is a larger version.

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remember , as soon as the saviour has done his bit , it is only a few turns of the track before he is the destroyer
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So fucking annoying! All these "knowledge" just to create a system where people can be black-mailed for liking to eat shit, fuck little children, be fisted in the ass.

All, of course, in their very verenated "mystical" affectation!

The fucking criminal dirty murderous fags.
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You've been Jones and Icked, lol...

Mr Icke

Just Jones, Icke I, (instead of FYI) = People used to fuck, burn and eat children MUCH, MUCH more in the past than happens now.
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"Know it all", I was a phone-sex operator for 2,5 years.

I know - as in Gnosis - what I AM "talking" about.

Why do you think black-mail works so much?

For them praying on their knees for a God above their dirty criminal selves?
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If you knew anything about ORDO AB CHAO or the ENDS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS, you would know that in order to get things done, shit gets a bit dirty at times.

You were a gay sex phone operator.....Is your name Tommy or Peter?


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remember , as soon as the saviour has done his bit , it is only a few turns of the track before he is the destroyer
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I figured that. In order to build anew, you have to destroy the old show. This is what we will see now. Maybe this is why we are seeing people like Wright leaving Freemasonry to cause CHAO.

It is always darkest before the dawn.

Washington Monum

I see much destruction and mayhem ahead.

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Huh?????

So let's get this straight: You're saying that the same organization that burned people alive for daring to say that the world wasn't flat promoted the ideals you mention above?

We've been down this road before Apollo, or whatever the hell you are calling yourself these days.

The Illuminati has never numbered more than a few thousand members. A truly secret society cannot hope to retain its secrets if it reveals them to too many people. When the Illuminati attempts to spread its ideas to a wider audience, it does so via carefully chosen religions, organisations, secret societies and esoteric orders. These groups are often led by members of the Illuminati, but are not party to the core secrets of the Illuminati. They are given a flavour of the central ideas of Illumination, but are denied the complete picture. Even if these groups were to turn against the Illuminati, they would not be able to betray any primary secrets.

The Illuminati have created the following movements in the course of history: Ancient Egyptian and Greek Mystery religions, Druidism, Mithraism, most versions of Gnosticism, Alchemy, Catharism (Albigensianism), the Knights Templar, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism.

Illuminati teachings have appeared, albeit in distorted form, in Christianity, Kabbalah, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism and many other religions. The religions furthest removed from Illumination are Islam, mainstream Judaism, and numerous Christian sects that have appeared since the Reformation.

All religions based on faith rather than knowledge are contrary to Illumination. All religions that do not teach reincarnation are contrary to Illumination. All religions that posit a benign creator of the earth are contrary to Illumination. All religions that place humanity in an automatically degraded state in relation to divine reality are contrary to Illumination. Men and women are not afflicted by "original sin". They are not guilty from the moment they are born as some religions would contend. They are not condemned by the sins of others (e.g. "Adam and Eve"). They are not subject to Christian predestination. They are not subject to Karma.

The essence of Illumination lies in the word "Becoming". Religions such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam are based on "Being". Those who understand the difference between being and becoming will start to see how Illumination offers a radically different worldview, one that is utterly breathtaking in the opportunities it offers to humanity.

If you want to continue with your deranged beliefs then I'm just going to wash my hands of your progress.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


I agree with much of what you had stated, but you are wrong on Apollo and why and who do you think started these religions?

You seem to think governing the people and living amongst them has always been a big cup of enlightenment tea? I AM ALL for enlightenment and illumination, but I also know that amongst the sheople, these teachings have always been abused or used for their own purposes. After all, one of the people that you and I follow was killed by the people. Burned to death with others by jealous people who could not get into the brotherhood. You remember Pythagoras?

Religion was created to control these teachings and also the people who I believe (no much how much I hate to say it since I AM one of these people too), NEEDED to be controlled. Hence, the ends justifies the means.

Yes, religion is sort of a soul parlor trick that places the power in the churches and states hands.BUT in the end, it had to be done for everyone's own good.

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Huh?????

So let's get this straight: You're saying that the same organization that burned people alive for daring to say that the world wasn't flat promoted the ideals you mention above?

We've been down this road before Apollo, or whatever the hell you are calling yourself these days.

The Illuminati has never numbered more than a few thousand members. A truly secret society cannot hope to retain its secrets if it reveals them to too many people. When the Illuminati attempts to spread its ideas to a wider audience, it does so via carefully chosen religions, organisations, secret societies and esoteric orders. These groups are often led by members of the Illuminati, but are not party to the core secrets of the Illuminati. They are given a flavour of the central ideas of Illumination, but are denied the complete picture. Even if these groups were to turn against the Illuminati, they would not be able to betray any primary secrets.

The Illuminati have created the following movements in the course of history: Ancient Egyptian and Greek Mystery religions, Druidism, Mithraism, most versions of Gnosticism, Alchemy, Catharism (Albigensianism), the Knights Templar, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism.

Illuminati teachings have appeared, albeit in distorted form, in Christianity, Kabbalah, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism and many other religions. The religions furthest removed from Illumination are Islam, mainstream Judaism, and numerous Christian sects that have appeared since the Reformation.

All religions based on faith rather than knowledge are contrary to Illumination. All religions that do not teach reincarnation are contrary to Illumination. All religions that posit a benign creator of the earth are contrary to Illumination. All religions that place humanity in an automatically degraded state in relation to divine reality are contrary to Illumination. Men and women are not afflicted by "original sin". They are not guilty from the moment they are born as some religions would contend. They are not condemned by the sins of others (e.g. "Adam and Eve"). They are not subject to Christian predestination. They are not subject to Karma.

The essence of Illumination lies in the word "Becoming". Religions such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam are based on "Being". Those who understand the difference between being and becoming will start to see how Illumination offers a radically different worldview, one that is utterly breathtaking in the opportunities it offers to humanity.

If you want to continue with your deranged beliefs then I'm just going to wash my hands of your progress.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


LOL, Do you write comedy? When did I mention the Catholic church? I meant the Judaic religions more per se. And to clarify, the Original Judaic and Christian beliefs DID teach reincarnation.
Ive been watching you and have been noticing that your education comes from Google.. Its going to take much more than google to show us what youve got.

Now regarding your comment on humanity being a degraded state away from reality. It is a true teaching contrary to what you believe. A study of Greek and Hebrew would be helpful. You know what Hamartia means? It is greek word for "sin" which means missing the Mark.
We "missed" the mark in our genetic makeup "DNA" and we are born the way we are..we were born unto original sin. We are guilty from the get go.
Adam and Eve and the Serpent was a hidden allegory to a genetic lineage. You do know were not all from the same place right? Can you guess the ultimate secret? Hint : (Clay and Iron)

Lets move onto Christianity now. Want to know why Jesus died on "the cross" ? In Astrology, square 90 degree angles are very tense Its a marker of squaring off unlike energies that this revolutionary young Jewish man did. He faced off on the Government and Pharisee and Sanhedrin conspiracies going on back then. They were amassing money and allowing prostitution on temple grounds, things had gotten corrupt.
He introduced new age ideas, a return to accountability and conscience. and introduced a revolution.

You know what the Illuminati are here for? Were here to make God Men. God Men are different then the Superbowl watching, porn wanking, 60-100 year lifespans that youre used to. We are born profane, but we will end up as God Men, immortal.

We have much more higher ideals. The Illuminati have never been more than 2,000 members? lol

How bout you move your education beyond Google, and then we'lll talk.
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Words and Words and circles within and without circles...

I know this:

It is the central bankers and the myriad of corporations that spring up around them that are TPTB. Builderburgers, Trilateral Commision, CFR etc...

Various Fraternities are just that and generally promote higher values and some even High knowledge and some even Sacred High Magic. I'm well aware where High Masons go who are seeking the spiritual path.

These "illuminating" fraternities are nothing to fear though I grant not every member of every fraternitie is going to be the nicest of people but it is rather the dark cabal who wallow in their filthy money that ruin the planet that we need to worry about.

Their may be a few dark fraternities, we've all heard the name skull and bones for example...

Frater

PS And yes, Knight Templar is a priesthood and they perform a Catholic style Christian eucharistic mass. I've attended. Not much use for riding around on horses cutting peoples heads off these daze :)

Best Wishes
 Quoting: Frater


Hi Frater and thanks for adding to the discussion.

I agree, but isn't it all ORDO AB CHAO and the ends justifies the means in order to eventually have a heavenly homeland or a Golden Age or has that dream been thrown away
because our current rulers want permanent hell on earth?
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV



Hi KTTV,

You know, I don't really know. That whole "Order out of Chaos" and ends justifying the means is much more a PTB thing, I don't run into it in any of the Orders and/or Fraternities and it's pretty appaling really. I cannot say those ideas are not written SOMEWHERE in all the various texts of all the various Fraternities but it's definitely not a theme in any of my circles.

I have said many time that I am not a Mason but travel in higher circles and although some overlap may occur, I am a Rosicrucian.

I know, Albert Pike... I have a 1948 copy of Morals and Dogma on my lap, ancient, wow, 65 years old and it smells it! LOL. The real esoteric version. On the first page it says in big bold letters:

"ESOTERIC BOOK, FOR SCOTTISH RITE USE ONLY; TO BE RETURNED UPON WITHDRAWAL OR DEATH OF RECIPIENT.

Well I guess that guy failed to return it LOL and I don't think they would care if I have it. I have mentioned it to a few of them and they didn't ask for it back.

But back to Pike, I have to say other than the rather ominous reference to WW3 and the very controversial referance to Lucifer (which He nor I equate with Satan) the rest of the book is an awesome referance.

I think I'm getting a little off topic or maybe never got right on it LOL.

Anyway, cool thread, Thanks.

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