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Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.

 
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Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Those that are on their path to ascension are slowly shedding all of their useless baggage as they travel along their path.

If you want a clue whether you are on the right path, look around you and see if you are needing less and less "stuff" each day.

Are you living lighter, freer and loose? Are you becoming a "minimalist" without really trying? Are you happy with less? Does it just feel right to own, move, carry,store, protect and maintain things?

Many today want more! Not me, I want, have and live with less.

This attitude will tell you a lot about yourself.

Peace
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02/02/2013 01:19 PM
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
No edit...

Meant to say "not own"...
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02/02/2013 01:27 PM
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
When you leave this life, you can take nothing with you. It's only stuff. It will NOT make you really happier even though they want you to believe it does...
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02/02/2013 01:32 PM
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Today people want more:

- kids
- money
- cars
- clothes
- toys
- technology
- stuff

And look how unhappy they all are. Why aren't they happy? They have it all, right?

Because it means nothing...
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02/02/2013 01:35 PM
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
i agree..you seem to be on the right path
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i agree..you seem to be on the right path
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Almost everyone would disagree with you, but yes, I feel that I am. How do I know? Because I have NEVER been this happy.

If you find true happiness, then you are on the right path. It's as easy and as hard and as hard as that...
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02/02/2013 01:48 PM
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
How are we kept trapped and controlled? By keeping us busy with ANYTHING that will keep us busy doing nothing.

Like:

- buying things
- selling things
- moving things
- cleaning things
- fixing things
- protecting things
- fighting over things

Things that mean absolutely nothing!

Think about what am saying here.

Less really is more...
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02/02/2013 01:50 PM
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Little by little you will begin to let it all go as you move toward a new way of life.

Unless you want to stay where you are now...
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Needing to have others always around you is part of the same trap by the way.

When you need more family always around, you are just collecting again. Same with so called "friends", kids and partners you can't even stand...

Get it yet?
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02/02/2013 02:04 PM
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Today people want more:

- kids
- money
- cars
- clothes
- toys
- technology
- stuff

And look how unhappy they all are. Why aren't they happy? They have it all, right?

Because it means nothing...
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Very few people want baby goats.
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Today people want more:

- kids
- money
- cars
- clothes
- toys
- technology
- stuff

And look how unhappy they all are. Why aren't they happy? They have it all, right?

Because it means nothing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33519260


Very few people want baby goats.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


One is not more precious than the other.

That should fire up you lost idiots, but it's the truth...
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02/02/2013 02:07 PM
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
"its only when youve lost everything,are you free to do anything"
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"its only when youve lost everything,are you free to do anything"
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I prefer to shed it myself instead of having it taken from me,but yes you are right.
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"its only when youve lost everything,are you free to do anything"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23325807


I prefer to shed it myself instead of having it taken from me,but yes you are right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33519260

"the things you own, end up owning you"

both are quotes from The Matrix;-)
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"its only when youve lost everything,are you free to do anything"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23325807


I prefer to shed it myself instead of having it taken from me,but yes you are right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33519260

"the things you own, end up owning you"

both are quotes from The Matrix;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23325807


And both true! Thank you.
ehecatl

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02/02/2013 04:37 PM
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Today people want more:

- kids
- money
- cars
- clothes
- toys
- technology
- stuff

And look how unhappy they all are. Why aren't they happy? They have it all, right?

Because it means nothing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33519260


Very few people want baby goats.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


Possibly one of the best food producer, for the least amount of effort and cost are egg laying hens, which are symbiotic with a small organic garden.

I have my total living expenses down to less than (equal to) $200 a month, and being a person of so many talents I earn that much without even trying.

Buying land is totally illogical because I only pay something like $80 a month to rent a large place with a half acre secured walled yard, all utilities included, and better not tie my resources to a fixed property.

I used to be an ambitious small but successful manufacturer in the US with millions of dollars grossed per year, I say grossed because I was very generous with my employees who were also my family and with business expenses.

A decade ago we packed it all up in a bunch of trucks and moved back to the employees central Mexico.

Since then I have found the simple lifestyle of the so-called "poor" people to be more satisfying than anything I knew in the US. I naturally allowed the manufacturing company to shrivel and die away, like once beautiful, but very bothersome wings that became no longer necessary.

There was some feeling of panic a few years ago, like as if I were in the US and would be doomed without serious income, but now I am much more at peace, with lots and lots of time to daydream, do creative architecture with no permits required, or nothing at all, with no guilt what so ever, if I choose.

Life is less of a drag than it used to be, and at a fraction of the cost.

[link to picasaweb.google.com (secure)]

Here at the end you see my region.


Last Edited by ehecatl on 02/02/2013 05:32 PM
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02/02/2013 04:42 PM
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ok, so who has cheap stuff to sell?

seeing as y'all dont need it anymore?

banana2
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02/02/2013 04:59 PM
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
ok, so who has cheap stuff to sell?

seeing as y'all dont need it anymore?

banana2
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So many brain dead commedians...
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02/02/2013 06:26 PM
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Why can't people see that "things" are what keeps them trapped?

Whenever anyone gets depressed, sad or uptight they BUY and then regret it because it doesn't stop the suffering.
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02/02/2013 06:30 PM
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"its only when youve lost everything,are you free to do anything"
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I prefer to shed it myself instead of having it taken from me,but yes you are right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33519260

"the things you own, end up owning you"

both are quotes from The Matrix;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23325807


The latter one is from Fight Club - I think. Great nonetheless.
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Today people want more:

- kids
- money
- cars
- clothes
- toys
- technology
- stuff

And look how unhappy they all are. Why aren't they happy? They have it all, right?

Because it means nothing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33519260


Very few people want baby goats.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


Possibly one of the best food producer, for the least amount of effort and cost are egg laying hens, which are symbiotic with a small organic garden.

I have my total living expenses down to less than (equal to) $200 a month, and being a person of so many talents I earn that much without even trying.

Buying land is totally illogical because I only pay something like $80 a month to rent a large place with a half acre secured walled yard, all utilities included, and better not tie my resources to a fixed property.

I used to be an ambitious small but successful manufacturer in the US with millions of dollars grossed per year, I say grossed because I was very generous with my employees who were also my family and with business expenses.

A decade ago we packed it all up in a bunch of trucks and moved back to the employees central Mexico.

Since then I have found the simple lifestyle of the so-called "poor" people to be more satisfying than anything I knew in the US. I naturally allowed the manufacturing company to shrivel and die away, like once beautiful, but very bothersome wings that became no longer necessary.

There was some feeling of panic a few years ago, like as if I were in the US and would be doomed without serious income, but now I am much more at peace, with lots and lots of time to daydream, do creative architecture with no permits required, or nothing at all, with no guilt what so ever, if I choose.

Life is less of a drag than it used to be, and at a fraction of the cost.

[link to picasaweb.google.com (secure)]

Here at the end you see my region.

 Quoting: ehecatl


Where are you? I am thinking of moving to Ajijc.
Who is John Galt?
ehecatl

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02/03/2013 01:09 AM
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Today people want more:

- kids
- money
- cars
- clothes
- toys
- technology
- stuff

And look how unhappy they all are. Why aren't they happy? They have it all, right?

Because it means nothing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33519260


Very few people want baby goats.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


Possibly one of the best food producer, for the least amount of effort and cost are egg laying hens, which are symbiotic with a small organic garden.

I have my total living expenses down to less than (equal to) $200 a month, and being a person of so many talents I earn that much without even trying.

Buying land is totally illogical because I only pay something like $80 a month to rent a large place with a half acre secured walled yard, all utilities included, and better not tie my resources to a fixed property.

I used to be an ambitious small but successful manufacturer in the US with millions of dollars grossed per year, I say grossed because I was very generous with my employees who were also my family and with business expenses.

A decade ago we packed it all up in a bunch of trucks and moved back to the employees central Mexico.

Since then I have found the simple lifestyle of the so-called "poor" people to be more satisfying than anything I knew in the US. I naturally allowed the manufacturing company to shrivel and die away, like once beautiful, but very bothersome wings that became no longer necessary.

There was some feeling of panic a few years ago, like as if I were in the US and would be doomed without serious income, but now I am much more at peace, with lots and lots of time to daydream, do creative architecture with no permits required, or nothing at all, with no guilt what so ever, if I choose.

Life is less of a drag than it used to be, and at a fraction of the cost.
 Quoting: ehecatl


Where are you? I am thinking of moving to Ajijc.
 Quoting: Renegade (Me too)


I have not been to Ajijic yet, but I would like to visit there because it is along a south facing ridge line along giant Lake Chapala which is one of the most popular paraglider flying sites in Mexico. The lake warms up in the day, and produces thermal activity along the lake edge that paraglider pilots fly long into the night, which is a very special experience.

Mexico is very regional with different local politics, economies, policing style and safety levels exist in small regions not far apart.

Ajijic, Jalisco is one of the regions most heavily populated with American (non-hispanic) ex-patriots.

I would not want to live there for that same reason. From what I understand the prices are inflated, and there is more opportunistic crime there, along with a heavier police presence (which means more public extortion often unfortunately)

When TSHTF, expect to see some unbridled anti-gringo sentiment.

I live in the Tenancingo Valley, Estado de Mexico (not Tlaxcala), same latitude as Cuerna Vaca and reputed to have one of the most favorable climates in the country.

Please do not come here. I am one of only about half a dozen "gringos" in the region of several hundred thousand people (aside from a few Mormon missionaries), and practically everyone from the mayor to police, to the indigenous, know me by name and everything about me. (but of course I can't remember the hundreds of thousands of them). I prefer it this way, especially if TSHTF.

I don't ever want some racist Mexicans to consider me to be "just one more of those damn gringos". I would rather them think of me as Ehecatl, Sky God, and compadre to all my compañeros, and I always talk in Spanish, and think in Spanish, and to try to adapt myself to this culture, not the other way around.

I was born here in Mexico but raised in the US by a non-hispanic mother and a Swedish adoptive father, so my Spanish still has an accent that locals pick up on and identify me as "gringo".

I wish you the best with your journey, whereever it takes you, but just saying, Ajijic, Cabo san Lucas, and those sorts of pueblos would be those that I would least want to settle in personally.

If you are not Latino, other gringos won't make you safer. To the contrary, they will put you more at risk.
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Those that are on their path to ascension are slowly shedding all of their useless baggage as they travel along their path.

If you want a clue whether you are on the right path, look around you and see if you are needing less and less "stuff" each day.

Are you living lighter, freer and loose? Are you becoming a "minimalist" without really trying? Are you happy with less? Does it just feel right to own, move, carry,store, protect and maintain things?

Many today want more! Not me, I want, have and live with less.

This attitude will tell you a lot about yourself.

Peace
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I'm afraid that this concept is beyond most people...
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
People mistakenly believe that "stuff" will help them feel safer, happier and more secure. When in fact, the "stuff" is their prison. How many times have we heard the story about how someone lost everything and were still happy.

We are afraid of the unknown. Of REALLY following our spiritual beliefs. How many people really believe that God is watching out for them? Very few.

In fact, you would think that Christians would understand this better than most because of the story of Job. But they don't. Humanity just keeps wanting more, and more and more. While at the same time, they are becoming more and more trapped and unhappy!

I just don't get it...
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Today people want more:

- kids
- money
- cars
- clothes
- toys
- technology
- stuff

And look how unhappy they all are. Why aren't they happy? They have it all, right?

Because it means nothing...
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Things you own end up owning you.
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Today people want more:

- kids
- money
- cars
- clothes
- toys
- technology
- stuff

And look how unhappy they all are. Why aren't they happy? They have it all, right?

Because it means nothing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33519260


Things you own end up owning you.
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Truth.

That is why consumerism that we know as free enterprise was created.

The magic words used are "growth", "profit", "expansion", "inflation". Those words ALL finite! They have to end some day. Badly I'm afraid.

Why not "balance", "perfection" and "sharing"???

No, it's always more...
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Re: Freedom really is just another word for nothing left to lose.
How many believe this idea?

The less you have, the less that can cause you pain and suffering? Why?

Because it can't be taken or stolen from you.

Because you don't have to worry about losing it

Because you don't have to protect it.

You are not tied to it!!!

You are now free to be whatever you want to be.

Very, very few I'm afraid...

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