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Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding

 
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Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
IMO of course.

i commend everyone with their jesus theories and evolution theories but we've only truely been aware of the universe around us for a very short time.

anyone who thinks that they have all the answers is a tard.

evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe but even with that you could never reproduce it in an experiment that would show the results needed to make it fact.


great topic, probably the most important topic, but dont be so full of yourself that you arent open to other possiblities.
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
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you havent figured it out yet?
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
you havent figured it out yet?
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obviously not.
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even the one star bandit doesnt give a shit about this thread, lol
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
True - I've found that the essence of life goes beyond what even quantum science can fathom...beyond the spirit...beyond the soul...beyond the limits of every concept we've ever known.

And like you, I don't know where the source of life is...it's certainly not subatomic energy or some deity...it's something that goes beyond what anyone or anything can conceive.
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe
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Which physical artifacts show evidence of evolution?
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
I think you are right. We know little, we do have some indications on how things seem to have evolved but we still miss many important keys.
And this goes not only for the evolution theory...
(and I do have some problems with the DNA tests as they are conducted)

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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe
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Which physical artifacts show evidence of evolution?
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fossils and whatnot
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
I think you are right. We know little, we do have some indications on how things seem to have evolved but we still miss many important keys.
And this goes not only for the evolution theory...
(and I do have some problems with the DNA tests as they are conducted)
 Quoting: Ostria1


:buziclap:
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evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe
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Which physical artifacts show evidence of evolution?
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fossils and whatnot
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A fossil can't show anything except that something died that once lived. It can't show that the animal evolved from something else, or into something else.

If you have an hour to kill sometime, I recommend that you watch this video:


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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe
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Which physical artifacts show evidence of evolution?
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


fossils and whatnot
 Quoting: Oyster


A fossil can't show anything except that something died that once lived. It can't show that the animal evolved from something else, or into something else.

If you have an hour to kill sometime, I recommend that you watch this video:


 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


fossils are pieces of a puzzle.

i'll try to watch that later.
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
IMO of course.

i commend everyone with their jesus theories and evolution theories but we've only truely been aware of the universe around us for a very short time.

anyone who thinks that they have all the answers is a tard.

evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe but even with that you could never reproduce it in an experiment that would show the results needed to make it fact.


great topic, probably the most important topic, but dont be so full of yourself that you arent open to other possiblities.
 Quoting: Oyster


most of our history is a complete lie. I have deciphered a lot of the computer instruction like code of our current existence..we are most definitely part of some sort of matrix.
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
IMO of course.

i commend everyone with their jesus theories and evolution theories but we've only truely been aware of the universe around us for a very short time.

anyone who thinks that they have all the answers is a tard.

evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe but even with that you could never reproduce it in an experiment that would show the results needed to make it fact.


great topic, probably the most important topic, but dont be so full of yourself that you arent open to other possiblities.
 Quoting: Oyster


most of our history is a complete lie. I have deciphered a lot of the computer instruction like code of our current existence..we are most definitely part of some sort of matrix.
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Yup, I'm actually agent Smith.

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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
IMO of course.

i commend everyone with their jesus theories and evolution theories but we've only truely been aware of the universe around us for a very short time.

anyone who thinks that they have all the answers is a tard.

evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe but even with that you could never reproduce it in an experiment that would show the results needed to make it fact.


great topic, probably the most important topic, but dont be so full of yourself that you arent open to other possiblities.
 Quoting: Oyster


most of our history is a complete lie. I have deciphered a lot of the computer instruction like code of our current existence..we are most definitely part of some sort of matrix.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29317919


feel free to elaborate on that. i would love to hear it.

whether our history is a complete lie or not...i am not sure. but history is written by the victors so there are definelty some parts left out and lies in there.

i'll have to dig to find it but there are several authors who have expressed that our current understanding of the historical timelines are way off. i dont know if it is true or not but very interesting to read.
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe
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Which physical artifacts show evidence of evolution?
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


fossils and whatnot
 Quoting: Oyster


The fossil record CLEARLY shows that species DO NOT evolve gradually into other species. Yet the zealot Evolutionists continue to believe in their religion.
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe
 Quoting: Oyster


Which physical artifacts show evidence of evolution?
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


fossils and whatnot
 Quoting: Oyster


The fossil record CLEARLY shows that species DO NOT evolve gradually into other species. Yet the zealot Evolutionists continue to believe in their religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33366952


there are many missing links. which is why evolution is still a theory, along with no experiment to conduct.

BUT at least you have something to observe whether it proves or disproves the theory. with religion all you get is hearsay.
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
with all the evolution and anti-evolution threads tonight i figured this one would get some action
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
IMO of course.

i commend everyone with their jesus theories and evolution theories but we've only truely been aware of the universe around us for a very short time.

anyone who thinks that they have all the answers is a tard.

evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe but even with that you could never reproduce it in an experiment that would show the results needed to make it fact.


great topic, probably the most important topic, but dont be so full of yourself that you arent open to other possiblities.
 Quoting: Oyster


I noticed this thread and the "Christians and Atheists" thread... and both go out on a limb to state something which I believe is premature.

I am not a christian, but I do consider myself religious, i am not anything that can be attributed to labels that govern this planet. i have found knowledge and information which is so much deeper and richer than any "divine" source that governs the collective mind. it is often in places most people would not look but it is alive and thriving because good minds have protected it. there are answers to your questions if you seek them. the mysteries of all creations can be understood by human beings for you are a piece of the answer. this is a fractal universe. you are connected to the answers right now.
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lot of people are working on it and theres credible hypothesis it is not beyond our understanding because it is what we are keep a tab on phys.org it could be revealed anytime soon
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That's right and uh.....yeah
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No mystery: you were made out of dust in your mom's belly before popping out between her legs, wise moron.
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
IMO of course.

i commend everyone with their jesus theories and evolution theories but we've only truely been aware of the universe around us for a very short time.

anyone who thinks that they have all the answers is a tard.

evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe but even with that you could never reproduce it in an experiment that would show the results needed to make it fact.


great topic, probably the most important topic, but dont be so full of yourself that you arent open to other possiblities.
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I do not think of having, but have an answer ^^^
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I've found the Urantia Book version of creation to be satisfying.It describes a Divinely initiated and tweeked evolution...on the Ahriman-ic side, with the sting of Will denial thru out.But that's why there's so much heartlessness.
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
IMO of course.

i commend everyone with their jesus theories and evolution theories but we've only truely been aware of the universe around us for a very short time.

anyone who thinks that they have all the answers is a tard.

evolution gets a leg up because you at least have physical artifacts to observe but even with that you could never reproduce it in an experiment that would show the results needed to make it fact.


great topic, probably the most important topic, but dont be so full of yourself that you arent open to other possiblities.
 Quoting: Oyster


This, of course, is what the religious 'authorities' want you to believe. After all, that's how they make their money.

But, in fact, they are doing everything they can possibly do to prevent you from understanding your origins. Because, if you understood your origins, you would not need them any more, as clearly expressed in The Matrix.

As described cryptically in the Revelations, man was Created with a non-dualistic "observing consciousness" in the image of the Creator. Then there occurred 'the Fall' to the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'. So, there are now three dimensions of consciousness: one non-dualistic, non-spatial, non-temporal dimension of consciousness; and 2 dualistic dimensions of consciousness: the "self" and the 'thinker'.

The differentiation of these dimensions of consciousness is one of the things discussed by Jesus in the Gospel of Thomas. It is also discussed in Buddhism and Taoism.

Michael

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ya have to wonder what we'd do, where'd we go, once we do understand........
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ya have to wonder what we'd do, where'd we go, once we do understand........
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Well, we would not go to war, if that's what you mean.

We would not go to make weapons to exterminate each other.

We would not go to college classes on theology which only project evil upon other religions and other religionists, thus increasing conflict, violence and bloodshed.

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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
I think it may be possible to explain the origin of this universe, see here:

Thread: 11 year old boy reincarnated FOX 8 News (fighter pilot shot down in Japan)

and here:

Thread: 11 year old boy reincarnated FOX 8 News (fighter pilot shot down in Japan)
The Plan for the Future: [link to www.naturalmoney.org]
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[link to www.digital-brilliance.com]
this^^^ A history of the Necronomicon.
Follow the rabbit; but remember, 'an opinion is the place where you stopped thinking'..
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Re: Our origins are WAY beyond our current understanding
Jesus speaks to me in my mind and he does not speak to you. Only me. And he says that the bible is real and all other books should be burned. Anyone who reads anything other than the bible should have their testicles snipped off with metal shears and the remaining cavity splashed with rubbing alcohol.

But hey, don't believe me if you don't want.
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Jesus speaks to me in my mind and he does not speak to you. Only me. And he says that the bible is real and all other books should be burned. Anyone who reads anything other than the bible should have their testicles snipped off with metal shears and the remaining cavity splashed with rubbing alcohol.

But hey, don't believe me if you don't want.
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dont worry, i wont.

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