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I believe in God because I chose to and my belief could change at any moment. Now my definition of God is my own and really could be anything. I am leaning towards God not being the God described in the bible but rather a universal consciousness.. a combined consciousness of all energy... that includes stars and black holes which are also alive in my mind. It may be that I am God and I created this universe for myself to experience. Or maybe you are God. Or we all are and our human form is just one slice of this infinite pure consciousness. I know.. blasphemous right? Well one thing I don't believe in is blasphemy and hell. I believe God loves us all and out spirits will be cleansed when we die. And then recombined/reunited with the universal consciousness. Or who knows maybe there is no God. I don't care too much if there isn't. And one more thing. God loves everyone including atheists. God does note care if you choose not to believe in God.
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All of this is so heretical that I really don't feel comfortable talking about Gnosticism. I'll leave that to you.

Because Gnosticism evolved over time, I have given you the earliest date that I know of with the Marconian Heresy of around 144 AD. They absorbed a lot. There were a lot groups developing texts. That doesn't mean that say the original Marconian Heresy believers were Gnostics. I doubt you can find a scholar to say that. They are the antecedants of Gnostic thought.

I'll leave you all to discuss this real noxious stuff.
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ok mr "mishmash " i hope that you know the origin of this word , that tell me all about your "origin" ! if you know what i mean , no offence ! your logic is great but your info(proves , facts) are lame, or you know that ! and you are a liar, but you can be actually a beliver because you don`t have the power to verify the facts so you are right in your oppinion (lie), !! BECAUSE YOUR DIRECT ANCESTORS MADE THIS mishmash WITH EARTH HISTORY DOCUMENTS !! ..try to dig a little dipper than 144 AD ok ? and be objective even the chosen people are not your ancestor !! have a good day ...by the way 144 AD was the year of "mutual" assasination of Cezar and Buerebistas both cousins from Alba Longa familly ! wow did you know that ?!!? ..noooo how come ? no roman Empire ?? wow ..nice try YHWH
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sounds like powa! in voice chat..... who knows... everything in this life is 100% debaceable.....
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goaway

what he said


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Let the wicked follow the sinful path bro's and sisters, God helps them to follow that path he knows they're lost forever, nothing we can do except for some of our bro's and sisters that were chosen to spread the last warning of God, the seventh trumpet will be blown timely, we have done our job yet, let the stupid wicked fall and be decived, it's not our fuckin' business anymore.

God Bless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


I can assure you, have no clue as to what your book is really about, what group's are behind it, and it's purpose...

You are participating in an experiential learning process, along with everyone in this galaxy... That you have fallen for a paradigm put forth by other players who wish to control and use you, is the process you have chosen at this time...

Be where you are - stay where you are - enjoy where you are..

But, don't think for a minute you can state your paradigm as fact, that applies to everyone else...

You continue, everyone continues, regardless of any paradigm you choose to believe...
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02/07/2013 08:21 AM
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Let the wicked follow the sinful path bro's and sisters, God helps them to follow that path he knows they're lost forever, nothing we can do except for some of our bro's and sisters that were chosen to spread the last warning of God, the seventh trumpet will be blown timely, we have done our job yet, let the stupid wicked fall and be decived, it's not our fuckin' business anymore.

God Bless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


I can assure you, have no clue as to what your book is really about, what group's are behind it, and it's purpose...

You are participating in an experiential learning process, along with everyone in this galaxy... That you have fallen for a paradigm put forth by other players who wish to control and use you, is the process you have chosen at this time...

Be where you are - stay where you are - enjoy where you are..

But, don't think for a minute you can state your paradigm as fact, that applies to everyone else...

You continue, everyone continues, regardless of any paradigm you choose to believe...
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Blah blah blah..
philo-sophia

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I believe in God because I chose to and my belief could change at any moment. Now my definition of God is my own and really could be anything. I am leaning towards God not being the God described in the bible but rather a universal consciousness.. a combined consciousness of all energy... that includes stars and black holes which are also alive in my mind. It may be that I am God and I created this universe for myself to experience. Or maybe you are God. Or we all are and our human form is just one slice of this infinite pure consciousness. I know.. blasphemous right? Well one thing I don't believe in is blasphemy and hell. I believe God loves us all and out spirits will be cleansed when we die. And then recombined/reunited with the universal consciousness. Or who knows maybe there is no God. I don't care too much if there isn't. And one more thing. God loves everyone including atheists. God does note care if you choose not to believe in God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866495


blasphemous? Its just a pigeon holed idea. Is your mind still wrapped around a religious head trip?

Belief doesn't matter to reality. Stop drinking the kool-aid.
Never mind what others believe, and do your own inquiry.

and argument is still moot, false dichotomy.
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02/07/2013 08:28 AM
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Let the wicked follow the sinful path bro's and sisters, God helps them to follow that path he knows they're lost forever, nothing we can do except for some of our bro's and sisters that were chosen to spread the last warning of God, the seventh trumpet will be blown timely, we have done our job yet, let the stupid wicked fall and be decived, it's not our fuckin' business anymore.

God Bless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


I can assure you, have no clue as to what your book is really about, what group's are behind it, and it's purpose...

You are participating in an experiential learning process, along with everyone in this galaxy... That you have fallen for a paradigm put forth by other players who wish to control and use you, is the process you have chosen at this time...

Be where you are - stay where you are - enjoy where you are..

But, don't think for a minute you can state your paradigm as fact, that applies to everyone else...

You continue, everyone continues, regardless of any paradigm you choose to believe...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


Blah blah blah..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


Very intelligent of you...

I think you might be able to find a forum that caters to children - google it...
philo-sophia

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02/07/2013 08:34 AM
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How much can it be stated, beliefs may/ or may not be linked to facts. Believe is not the cause, and Reality the effect.

I'm proposing a new type of tard for you tards,


for the dictionary:


Belieftard: one that is convinced that something must be true because s/he believes, the mind is already made, and facts will only confuse.
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02/07/2013 08:37 AM
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Let the wicked follow the sinful path bro's and sisters, God helps them to follow that path he knows they're lost forever, nothing we can do except for some of our bro's and sisters that were chosen to spread the last warning of God, the seventh trumpet will be blown timely, we have done our job yet, let the stupid wicked fall and be decived, it's not our fuckin' business anymore.

God Bless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


I can assure you, have no clue as to what your book is really about, what group's are behind it, and it's purpose...

You are participating in an experiential learning process, along with everyone in this galaxy... That you have fallen for a paradigm put forth by other players who wish to control and use you, is the process you have chosen at this time...

Be where you are - stay where you are - enjoy where you are..

But, don't think for a minute you can state your paradigm as fact, that applies to everyone else...

You continue, everyone continues, regardless of any paradigm you choose to believe...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


Blah blah blah..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


Very intelligent of you...

I think you might be able to find a forum that caters to children - google it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


I didn't state anything, my post was aimed to my fellow chistians, then you pop up and talk to me about your experiential learning process....
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...


I can assure you, have no clue as to what your book is really about, what group's are behind it, and it's purpose...

You are participating in an experiential learning process, along with everyone in this galaxy... That you have fallen for a paradigm put forth by other players who wish to control and use you, is the process you have chosen at this time...

Be where you are - stay where you are - enjoy where you are..

But, don't think for a minute you can state your paradigm as fact, that applies to everyone else...

You continue, everyone continues, regardless of any paradigm you choose to believe...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


Blah blah blah..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


Very intelligent of you...

I think you might be able to find a forum that caters to children - google it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


I didn't state anything, my post was aimed to my fellow chistians, then you pop up and talk to me about your experiential learning process....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


This is stupid, but I will answer...

When you post on a forum, that is not a quote, and reply to someone else, it is open for all to chime in...

Next time - use the header - "for christians only"...
philo-sophia

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OP, what you fail to realize is that there really is no debate, there is simply what is - which is the fact that we live in a world and universe that is beyond our reckoning, and that the many synchronicities, coincidences, and supernatural occurrences all point to a design with an intelligent creator.

You apparently want the debate to end because logic has failed to produce proof of what you seek, as in something tangible that makes sense to you. You are far too dependent on worldly things, that you need this proof. Life was meant to be lived and learned from, to love and be loved, and to become a good person. Even if I didn't believe in God, that would be enough.
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the bolded part, very nice

kudos to youcoffee4chorus

and the unbolded part is ...




MOOT
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...


Blah blah blah..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


Very intelligent of you...

I think you might be able to find a forum that caters to children - google it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


I didn't state anything, my post was aimed to my fellow chistians, then you pop up and talk to me about your experiential learning process....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


This is stupid, but I will answer...

When you post on a forum, that is not a quote, and reply to someone else, it is open for all to chime in...

Next time - use the header - "for christians only"...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


Chime it up as much as you want, that's part of the experiential learning process....
philo-sophia

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lets face it theists and atheists,


just a belief, both sides, the discussion has been pigeon holed to present us with a false dichotomy.

This non-theistic agnostic has been down this road many times, and this same turd ball has been kicked over and over with both camps.

You believe either/or because this is how your mind had been conditioned by religion. God/ or No God isn't the problem, religion is.
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philo-sophia

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all religions are fraudulent.
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philo-sophia

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02/07/2013 08:59 AM
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I can assure you, have no clue as to what your book is really about, what group's are behind it, and it's purpose...

You are participating in an experiential learning process, along with everyone in this galaxy... That you have fallen for a paradigm put forth by other players who wish to control and use you, is the process you have chosen at this time...

Be where you are - stay where you are - enjoy where you are..

But, don't think for a minute you can state your paradigm as fact, that applies to everyone else...

You continue, everyone continues, regardless of any paradigm you choose to believe...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


Blah blah blah..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


Very intelligent of you...

I think you might be able to find a forum that caters to children - google it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


I didn't state anything, my post was aimed to my fellow chistians, then you pop up and talk to me about your experiential learning process....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33866678


takes 2 to tango, children


and your discussion is






MOOT
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Don't believe anything...
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We are in a knowledge age. As we get smarter, we tend to lose heart. Love is a linear vibration that lasts forever. Without god or jesus, you will not be able to conquer your own mind as we progress through these evolutionary changes. Fear will ultimately win your mental battle in the end if no humilty is achieved on your part (believing someone is better than you are). This is why relgion and the bible are the greatest gifts to mankind. Its your key to beating solar flares, natural disasters, government lies, genocides and homicides that will be like swords to your fragile mind. Other ways to counter those upcoming issues is giving alms, prayer, tything, and fasting. Practicing these things strengthen a part of your brain necessary for spiritual growth.

You'll see that when you adapt to evolutionary changes of the flesh, you'll indulge in fast food, drugs, smarts for achieving more money, hot bitches..These will grow old and die.. you wont be satisfied by these anymore.. Your craving love (not making love) and you dont even know it yet.

Asian religions, Buddhism have recently found that practicing spiritual oneness (as in unlocking your spiritual connection yourself) has become much harder in the last 5 years due to this worldwide mental turbulence we're going through.. They too have realized you must meditate and submit to a higher power to achieve similar results as in the past.
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Why does this crappy thread keep getting pinned? Does the OP have multiple accounts and sets up all night pinning his own post? Seriously, this is the most lame post on here. Nobody gives a $&!^. another do
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DEMONSTRABLY FLAWED
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God Is Real soon ALLL WILL SEE!!

God is coming!!!

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Do you have eyes to see, ears to hear and a heart to understand? JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY WAY to SALVATION, DELIVERANCE and PEACE! Soon his grace will be taken from the earth and his WRATH will be poured out. Accept JESUS CHRIST while the GRACE of GOD is still available. May the Peace of God be with you! Love, Pray, Repent and Forgive.
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A true atheist "lacks a belief" and that is a perfectly honest position to hold.


 Quoting: simultaneous_final



Lack of belief idea is illogical. The only belief they lack is the one they never heard of.

A rock or my blender can lack a belief. They simply do not believe period.
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Believer: "I believe in unicorns"
Non Believer: "I don't believe you"


the burden of proof lies on the believer.


end of story.


/end thread
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lets face it theists and atheists,


just a belief, both sides, the discussion has been pigeon holed to present us with a false dichotomy.

This non-theistic agnostic has been down this road many times, and this same turd ball has been kicked over and over with both camps.

You believe either/or because this is how your mind had been conditioned by religion. God/ or No God isn't the problem, religion is.
 Quoting: philo-sophia


clappa
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Its all based on faith and seeing God do miracles for you. You sometimes have to try a product before you know if it works or not!! I gave my life to Jesus Christ 38 years ago; and He works very well for me. I am no longer a sick and perverse sinner, and I no longer run the women and smoke pot and drink and party and live a very sinful life. And I have been married for 36 years with 2 wonderful sons. And I have seen Satan and his demons and my angels. And I have seen hundreds of medical miracles being performed when I have prayed for hundreds. So you have to try Christ before you knock Him and say that He doesn't exist. Or the ulternative is to die without Him and be scorching and cooking and frying and crying and weeping your head off for trillions and trillions of years, infinitum!!
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moot
 Quoting: philo-sophia


When you are cooking and frying and weeping and wailing perfusely forever and ever, then lets see if it is a moot subject. I will gurantee that you will wish that you had listened and will hate yourself, much more than you will hate God!!
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Fear mongering, coercive psychologist, demagoguery and unethical. Sending people to not just to hell, but eternal damnation for not sharing your belief (delusion) and throwing that trip onto others. You are the worst of the worst. To associate you with a class would be an insult to the class.

Since you roll that way, back at you.

My Religion and My God insist that 2 + 2 = 5, and if you don't repent from believing in 2 + 2 = 4, Then you will endure unimaginable sufferring forever and ever. Because I say so.

A made up religion, just like all the rest, yet you rubes get duped.
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clappa
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We are all connected


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Excellent.

This what I was theorizing and going with my hypothesis on the previous page. QM forget the chaos theory, just the fractal math

Quantum mechanics

Quantum mechanics


Quantum mechanics



This is still theory, not fact. Its not fact until it is repeatedly observed with predictable results, which can tested, checked and cross checked, validated and verified.

At least that's what my uncle says, he's a test engineer. (I'm new here, hi tards)



Since we don't have the facts, how can we "know" and have "knowledge" ?

No knowledge, therefore agnosticism is the correct approach.

Something might be true, or it could just as easily be false
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We have knowledge through revelation from God.
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I am God.
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Why do you clap? I suggest you click the link below.
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your charge will have an affinity for believing or not believing. If you dont believe then you have no shield for the solar swords that'll damage your thinking in the upcoming years. you'll just get worse and worse. far beyond being antisocial. You need the help of someone you can trust. that would be jesus
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your charge will have an affinity for believing or not believing. If you dont believe then you have no shield for the solar swords that'll damage your thinking in the upcoming years. you'll just get worse and worse. far beyond being antisocial. You need the help of someone you can trust. that would be jesus
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Rev 19 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
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Whew, he didn't say Muslims. Guess we're safe :D
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When you are cooking and frying and weeping and wailing perfusely forever and ever, then lets see if it is a moot subject. I will gurantee that you will wish that you had listened and will hate yourself, much more than you will hate God!!
 Quoting: philo-sophia


Fear mongering, coercive psychologist, demagoguery and unethical. Sending people to not just to hell, but eternal damnation for not sharing your belief (delusion) and throwing that trip onto others. You are the worst of the worst. To associate you with a class would be an insult to the class.

Since you roll that way, back at you.

My Religion and My God insist that 2 + 2 = 5, and if you don't repent from believing in 2 + 2 = 4, Then you will endure unimaginable sufferring forever and ever. Because I say so.

A made up religion, just like all the rest, yet you rubes get duped.


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It is impossible, to know, or so it seems.

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