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Message Subject Thread for Atheists & Christians - STFU
Poster Handle simultaneous_final
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Incorrect. How can you prove that your existence didn't begin NOW...or NOW...or...give it a second...NOW?

You certainly can't. You can't even prove it to yourself.

If a cause of a cause is somehow qualitatively or quantitately "greater", then is your father "greater" than you? Is your grandfather even greater?
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


No... your position (in logic and philosophy) if false.
from your position, you can not prove ANYTHING, and TO KNOW SOMETHING is just impossible...

anyone can conclude that U and I does not exist and we are just a dream of someone else (and U and I think that we are real ones)

So, your case is the same mistake of the german and late philosophers... "all depend on me" (I think, therefore, i exist... but, maybe all is just something on my mind... the reality i dont know if it is real or just something inside my mind)

Those mistakes lead to NO KNOWLEDGE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33041105


You're thinking of solipsism.

And while it is a philosophy which can never be verified or falsified (look it up), it is NOT what I'm saying. Solipsism goes so far as to ASSERT that the self IS all that exists.

What I'm saying is that the self is all that can be KNOWN to exist.

NOTHING leads to "knowledge" in the strictest sense of the word.

"Knowledge", in the strict sense, of ANYTHING other than your moment-to-moment "self" is unattainable.

If you can think of anything else that can be "known" (in the strict sense), then let's hear it. But remember, it only takes one exception to falsify it.
 
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