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Message Subject Thread for Atheists & Christians - STFU
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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Let's get right to it.

No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is real.

No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is NOT real.

All arguments are moot without assuming a "given".

How can I say all this with certainty?

BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT THEY'RE NOT DREAMING RIGHT NOW, with fabricated memories and all.

No matter what, FAITH is required just to participate in whatever you think is reality.

Both atheists and God-believers base their beliefs on FAITH in experiential data.

A true atheist "lacks a belief" and that is a perfectly honest position to hold. However, the rabid atheists who argue endlessly that "there is no God" are taking the same leap of faith that the proselytizing Christians are.

SO--is there a GOD?

My experiential data (a near-death experience that was seemingly as "real" as anything else I've experienced) says YES.

That's why I believe in God.

But I'd be a liar if I said that my NDE provides "proof"--even to myself. After all, my dreams are as "real" as anything even when I'm walking on the ceiling and lightsaber fighting and flying a MIG--all with a head full of outlandish memories.

So...all of you know-it-alls arguing FOR or AGAINST the concept of "God" need to
fuckoff2
because your arguments ARE DEMONSTRABLY FLAWED.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


An experience does not experiential data make like yoda would say.

Also I don't see how you can possibly make the differation in;

A true atheist "lacks a belief" and that is a perfectly honest position to hold.


And;
However, the rabid atheists who argue endlessly that "there is no God" are taking the same leap of faith that the proselytizing Christians are.


Both statements contradict heavily. Simply because the term God implies the Judeo/Christian definition of a god. You can't argue it's fine to not believe in any religion but then at the same time claim that it is not possible to be against a specifically defined Deity (through the old testament, new testament, qu'ran and the mormon bible). Your position just doesn't make any sense what so ever.

(keep in mind I don't really have anything against non-theistic deists, as their "beliefs" are so extremely vague you can't really have anything against it).
 
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