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Message Subject Thread for Atheists & Christians - STFU
Poster Handle Don'tBeAfraid
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Let me get this straight. So, the same people who argue that the mothods we currently use for dating are so inacurate they will believe none of it, because it disproved the bible as historical fact, now are using that same dating method to support their biblical artifact dates? I shouldn't have to point out the irony in your logic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10792566


Explain what you mean please. Are you meaning carbon dating? I'm not one of those silly Christians who believes the Earth is 6000 years old. The vast majority of Christians don't believe that nonsense. There are some Christians who believe in such things, but I'm not one of them.

Such methods are used to date the historical papyrus that we have and serious Bible scholars rely upon such methods. Only some recent fundamentalists say post 1960 or so would argue that carbon dating is not valid. Usually those folks are not scientists or have any scientific training whatsoever.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


Yes, I was under the assumption that you were, in fact a creationist, making an argument for the correct dating of parchment, whilst denying wholly the use of any other dating models. I am agnostic, and happen to promote those having spiritual epiphanies. It's beautiful.
I am, however, with the original poster in his sentiment that the argument here has no hope of being a mature affair, so it is actually quite pointless to keep the threads coming. Again, I should be resting, so I say good day sir.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10792566


Ah! Makes total sense. No, I'm not a creationist in the sense of believing in the 6000 year nonsensical antiscientific model. Who can know how long God took to make the Universe? The rational discovery of carbon 14 and the decay rate makes sense, but of course contaminiation will always cause issues.

You know you and I could have a rational discussion and not argue but actually learn to find common ground, as can most intellectuals who are of any faith or absent a faith or an agnostic.

I am glad you're at least an agnostic, for I bet you find enormous beauty in Nature and feel the call of God in some manifestation. There are deeply devout spiritual people, and when we encounter them, seldom are they dogmatic. Usually they are humble, considerate, and the first to be altruistic. That doesn't mean they are right, but at least they're not yelling as a means of insisting upon conversion.

As long as people are rational, and intellectually honest, then all people could make life on Earth much better by the reduction of discord.

In friendship we might even persuade each other of the veracity of spiritual systems (and the natural superiority of Christianity by Jesus Christ)! SmileyWink

The only time it become silly is when nonintellectuals enter into a debate and then it's more like screaming children.
 
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