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Message Subject Thread for Atheists & Christians - STFU
Poster Handle Adventus Domini
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Time out -- I have not palate for religion. I am a follower of Jesus because I am a life radically changed by Jesus Christ Ė a power much greater than myself that could change me from my powerless state of existence.

I look around and donít have to look far to understand that we exist in a fallen world. This is paradise lost. Itís like witnessesing a shipwreck Ė a treasure ship that was destroyed, and all that is left are scattered pieces of beauty. This is a fallen world.

God is perfect love. God is perfect justice. How do the two reconcile in a fallen world? For me, the answer was simple: Perfect love met perfect justice at the cross. There is nothing good in me and there is no way I can account for the things I've done. However, I wear the righteousness of Christ. And because of that afforded grace, I am changed... and I am free.

But he said to me, ďMy grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.Ē Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christís power may rest on me. That is why, for Christís sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong. 2 Cor 12:9,10
 Quoting: Adventus Domini

How can anyone honestly believe that God is love and justice??? This is one of the biggest fallacies involved with christanity. Your god is a voyeur. He watches his creations suffer and deal with injustice every day. How does this display his love and justice? Children beaten, raped, and starved. Where is his love and justice in that?
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity

So you agree that it is a fallen world? There will be justice -- there will be judgement!

Jesus Christ payed a price we could not pay. Now that is love.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini

Actually he paid the same price we all eventually pay. He died just like each and every one of us will.

My question is how can you preach about gods love when there is absolutely no evidence of it?
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity

All you see is the darkness. The light dispells the darkness, but that requires letting the light in.
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