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Message Subject Thread for Atheists & Christians - STFU
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Let's get right to it.

No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is real.

No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is NOT real.

All arguments are moot without assuming a "given".

How can I say all this with certainty?

BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT THEY'RE NOT DREAMING RIGHT NOW, with fabricated memories and all.

No matter what, FAITH is required just to participate in whatever you think is reality.

Both atheists and God-believers base their beliefs on FAITH in experiential data.

A true atheist "lacks a belief" and that is a perfectly honest position to hold. However, the rabid atheists who argue endlessly that "there is no God" are taking the same leap of faith that the proselytizing Christians are.

SO--is there a GOD?

My experiential data (a near-death experience that was seemingly as "real" as anything else I've experienced) says YES.

That's why I believe in God.

But I'd be a liar if I said that my NDE provides "proof"--even to myself. After all, my dreams are as "real" as anything even when I'm walking on the ceiling and lightsaber fighting and flying a MIG--all with a head full of outlandish memories.

So...all of you know-it-alls arguing FOR or AGAINST the concept of "God" need to
fuckoff2
because your arguments ARE DEMONSTRABLY FLAWED.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Now all these posts later, do any of you remember the original statements above? I challenge you to go back and read that post.

"No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is real."

Actually several famous philosophers throughout history have proved the existence of God. I've demonstrated several of those here: St. Anselm, Aquinas, Kant, Kierkegaard, CS Lewis, etc.

"No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is NOT real."

Actually there are proofs, but none of you have posted any of them. Isn't there one philosopher among you?

"All arguments are moot without assuming a "given".

Wrong. There are givens see all of the philosopher posts on the existence of God.

"BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT THEY'RE NOT DREAMING RIGHT NOW, with fabricated memories and all."

Actually, as far as I know, I am the only person to prove that you're not deluded but conscious by the repeatability of a pendulum experiment. You can have others repeat the experiment too in order to prove "they" exist. You can have many scientists prove the same experiment over time and prove that "reality" exists.
Thread: Thread for Atheists & Christians - STFU (Page 6)
Didn't any of you take a philosophy course where you had to prove this? I did. It was in my first week of class.

"How can I say all this with certainty?"

See the certainty I proved.

"No matter what, FAITH is required just to participate in whatever you think is reality.

Both atheists and God-believers base their beliefs on FAITH in experiential data. "

AGREED. See Soren Kierkegaard.

Thread: Thread for Atheists & Christians - STFU (Page 11)
Thread: Thread for Atheists & Christians - STFU (Page 11)

The major point is not whether God is brutal, the Bible is valid, whether Christians or atheists are deluded . The main goal of THIS TOPIC was to answer those questions the OP stated.

All the other questions are interesting, but so are a million others and we could talk about those at some length, but they deserve their own topic.

The reality is that topics like this don't persuade anyone. People have tried throughout history. The fact that there are proofs on the existence of reality or God don't persuade the average person because they don't understand philosophy but "want proof damnit..." Well there is no evidence.

Witnessing is about sharing faith, not reason. It doesn't work via an Internet topic, it works by building schools and hospitals and actually caring for your fellow Man.

Does that sound familiar? See previous postings I made on it.
 
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