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inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter

 
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that can't be real, it's way to small
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
whatever that thing they built is, it looks pretty cool. doesn't look like it has weapons though...
 Quoting: The Gallows

Perhaps it is a proto for piloted craft that have a certain amount of ground effects that prevent contact with the ground at very low altitudes over relatively flat surfaces. Thrust vectoring might not be used if thrusters can be mounted in the canard wings.

It could also be the platform trainer for advanced cockpit controls that always get upgraded into the machines that do carry various 'tools of war' and the pilots are upgraded by the time the power switch is activated for the first time.
 Quoting: MHz
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The fact remains you cannot fight a war based off a single prototype of an unproven "stealth" fighter. It doesn't even have midair refueling capability.

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Lets see it fly....

I bet it can't.

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 Quoting: FatalW1shes
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Breaking -- just released ...


Iran's top test pilot on the F-313 maiden flight:


:seaserpent1:

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Horseshit
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
Looks like wiki deleted the pic.
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This media file may meet the criteria for speedy deletion.

The given reason is: Copyright violation. MEHR News image from [1], [2], etc.
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Picture saved for posterity ... and a good laugh:

[link to i49.tinypic.com]

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 Quoting: Bucephelus


that looks like something a rc model airplane builder put together laugh

compare that to this pic of a f22 cockpit:

[link to www.f22fighter.com]
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That is a great shot... how did the pilot take that while choking for oxygen????
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All saying this not real stealth fighter will be surpise when hundreds fly over Israel bomb the devil infidels in their houses while their radars will not detect them and their fighters cant shot them down!

Israel will be no more and this plane can do job!
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LOL.. and mohammed will ride in on a pink unicorn fucking a pig in the ass..

You shitbag .. fuck mohammed, fuck allah and fuck YOU!
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Just for the record Allah = same God worshipped by Christianity and Judaism....if you think different well all I can say is at the end of the day the Big Fella Himself will have to sort it out..and he wont need help from tards like you and me.

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nice danger sticker on the side.
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
Bet it cant fly. And yes , no guns, rockets or bombs visable. Kamakazi? Nice TRY!
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lol Ukrainians learned a little after all, kudos.
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
here is a bet of info on it. Iran does not publish classified infos on its home made military equipments.

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The Qaher-313 (Persian: قاهر-۳۱۳‎; also Ghaher-313, Conqueror-313, Q-313, F-313) is an Iranian single-seat stealth fighter aircraft publically announced on February 1, 2013[1]. It was presented to the press by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on 2 February 2013, as part of the Ten-Day Dawn ceremonies.[2][3][4][5] A prototype version has been test-flown at some point before that.[6]

The F-313 Qaher was designed and is indigenously produced in Iran.[7] The aircraft is said to be a stealth fighter with low-level operations capability.[8] Qaher is built with "advanced materials" and had a very low radar signature.[9] Qaher can take off and land on short runways and it has "easy maintenance".[10]

inside pic:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16689814


the funny thing is on one of the displyd pic the nose prtection ribbon said in english 'remove before flight'. lmao. As if the pilot would forget that. lmao.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16689814


Obviously, even the Concorde would still be in service, if you and your logic/intelligence were at the helm of the program....
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
All is wishful thinking of some morons, filled with aspartame and junk food, living in fantasy land and thinking nothing could happen to them.

All of you seems to be experts in avionics, weaponry, encrypted telecom, jamming you already know all the thing about this s##t.

Me, I would consider a novice, in all that fields where you guys seems so skillful, but what I have, and you seems to miss, is common sense:

If they are able to decode the real time encrypted communication which is done under the natural noise level for the GPS data transmission from satellites and take control of a spy drone, if they are allies with Russians - don't forget Sukhoi technology (I participated to an aviation exhibition air show with that beast and I'm telling you is not a joke!), if they are allies with Chinese which were able to launch a missile from a stealth submarine near Los Angeles and not detected by marine, etc, I would not be so confident that are just some dummy maquette or some joke, most of the "intelligent" guys here are sustaining, just them to be comfy.

And knowing that they are pressed now to make a strong and menacing statement, I could believe that this jet could do some damage of some sort, maybe not in the counter-fight with similar capabilities jets, but at least to bomb, maim or otherwise frighten an undefended population, while it is invisible for the radar microwave, possible laser pointers, who knows.

If you ask those very sure on themselves that this is a toy, if they would be fine and comfortable their city be attacked by those "toys", I'm not so sure will give same answers as they stupidly give it here?
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
How come Iran's main weapons display centre seems to be a cattle shed?
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
All is wishful thinking of some morons, filled with aspartame and junk food, living in fantasy land and thinking nothing could happen to them.

All of you seems to be experts in avionics, weaponry, encrypted telecom, jamming you already know all the thing about this s##t.

Me, I would consider a novice, in all that fields where you guys seems so skillful, but what I have, and you seems to miss, is common sense:

If they are able to decode the real time encrypted communication which is done under the natural noise level for the GPS data transmission from satellites and take control of a spy drone, if they are allies with Russians - don't forget Sukhoi technology (I participated to an aviation exhibition air show with that beast and I'm telling you is not a joke!), if they are allies with Chinese which were able to launch a missile from a stealth submarine near Los Angeles and not detected by marine, etc, I would not be so confident that are just some dummy maquette or some joke, most of the "intelligent" guys here are sustaining, just them to be comfy.

And knowing that they are pressed now to make a strong and menacing statement, I could believe that this jet could do some damage of some sort, maybe not in the counter-fight with similar capabilities jets, but at least to bomb, maim or otherwise frighten an undefended population, while it is invisible for the radar microwave, possible laser pointers, who knows.

If you ask those very sure on themselves that this is a toy, if they would be fine and comfortable their city be attacked by those "toys", I'm not so sure will give same answers as they stupidly give it here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33414518


OK Vlad!!!

norespect
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
here is a bet of info on it. Iran does not publish classified infos on its home made military equipments.

C&P
The Qaher-313 (Persian: قاهر-۳۱۳‎; also Ghaher-313, Conqueror-313, Q-313, F-313) is an Iranian single-seat stealth fighter aircraft publically announced on February 1, 2013[1]. It was presented to the press by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on 2 February 2013, as part of the Ten-Day Dawn ceremonies.[2][3][4][5] A prototype version has been test-flown at some point before that.[6]

The F-313 Qaher was designed and is indigenously produced in Iran.[7] The aircraft is said to be a stealth fighter with low-level operations capability.[8] Qaher is built with "advanced materials" and had a very low radar signature.[9] Qaher can take off and land on short runways and it has "easy maintenance".[10]

inside pic:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16689814


the funny thing is on one of the displyd pic the nose prtection ribbon said in english 'remove before flight'. lmao. As if the pilot would forget that. lmao.
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Same as on any F-22, Ff-16 you-name-it... what is your point?
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All is wishful thinking of some morons, filled with aspartame and junk food, living in fantasy land and thinking nothing could happen to them.

All of you seems to be experts in avionics, weaponry, encrypted telecom, jamming you already know all the thing about this s##t.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33414518


OK Vlad!!!

norespect
 Quoting: Melton Mowbray


If this is your maximum intellectual capacity (bet you still have to reckon, what the heck is that?)

no wonder this gentlemen officer is saying at the minute 15:

[link to www.youtube.com]

You are trying to deny reality, you know that story with the ostrich & stuff!
whatever
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
All is wishful thinking of some morons, filled with aspartame and junk food, living in fantasy land and thinking nothing could happen to them.

All of you seems to be experts in avionics, weaponry, encrypted telecom, jamming you already know all the thing about this s##t.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33414518


OK Vlad!!!

norespect
 Quoting: Melton Mowbray


If this is your maximum intellectual capacity (bet you still have to reckon, what the heck is that?)

no wonder this gentlemen officer is saying at the minute 15:

[link to www.youtube.com]

You are trying to deny reality, you know that story with the ostrich & stuff!
whatever
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I think you are a tad bit dellusional.
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
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That has got to be a mistake at 240 knots ? Thats a crawl for a jet fighter!

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 Quoting: GT500
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Well, the reality is that you don't want a Stealth fighter that
can make a sonic boom, because then it's no longer stealthy.



However, 240 kias is so incredibly slow and gives it such a diminished
range that it can almost be shot down with a backpack-based drone
from an amphibious team from a beachhead on the Persian Gulf.

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 Quoting: Bucephelus


Wrong. The F-22 is one of the noisiest aircraft in the Air
Force and can travel faster than the speed of sound without
an afterburner. Stealth in aircraft has little to do with
noise and much more to do with evading radar and reducing
infrared signature.

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 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine
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No, I'm talking the F-117, which has a top speed of 617 mph,
below the speed of sound.

While the F-313 speed of 240 kias would make it tough to
shoot down in a dog fight (low turn radius compared to an F-22),
it makes it vulnerable to even drones along the gulf coastline
once visually identified (BTW, that's easily done at 240 knots!).

An F-18 Block II could probably easily scan a fan-blade count
of this F-313 prototype and nail it on its first flight.

That said -- Noise IS hazardous from ground-based sources HUMINT
assets which then coordinate with look-down radar platforms
for "tighter" radar scans from airborne surveillance.

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 Quoting: Bucephelus


the F117 was also noisy. It was only slow because the early stealth design didn't allow for speed. They would have gone for it if they could.

I doubt the F-313 sould ever get to the merge with an F-22. First, the radar on the F-22 is far superior and they likely have a missle lock on this piece of junk from 50 miles out. Second, even if they got to the merge, the turn radius is far lower than you'd expect on an F-22 due to the vectored thrust.
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
Here it is in the sky. The gonna crap the hell out of someone. It looks like it.

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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Wrong. they showed on the other thread that that was a amaller RC mockup and NOT the full size plane. Knowing Iran, the full size will never fly.
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
whatever that thing they built is, it looks pretty cool. doesn't look like it has weapons though...
 Quoting: The Gallows

Perhaps it is a proto for piloted craft that have a certain amount of ground effects that prevent contact with the ground at very low altitudes over relatively flat surfaces. Thrust vectoring might not be used if thrusters can be mounted in the canard wings.

It could also be the platform trainer for advanced cockpit controls that always get upgraded into the machines that do carry various 'tools of war' and the pilots are upgraded by the time the power switch is activated for the first time.
 Quoting: MHz
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The fact remains you cannot fight a war based off a single prototype of an unproven "stealth" fighter. It doesn't even have midair refueling capability.

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 Quoting: Bucephelus


since Iran does not have air refueling planes this is a moot point. They concentrate on point defense and not attacks at range.
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Well, the reality is that you don't want a Stealth fighter that
can make a sonic boom, because then it's no longer stealthy.



However, 240 kias is so incredibly slow and gives it such a diminished
range that it can almost be shot down with a backpack-based drone
from an amphibious team from a beachhead on the Persian Gulf.

.
 Quoting: Bucephelus


Wrong. The F-22 is one of the noisiest aircraft in the Air
Force and can travel faster than the speed of sound without
an afterburner. Stealth in aircraft has little to do with
noise and much more to do with evading radar and reducing
infrared signature.

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 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine
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No, I'm talking the F-117, which has a top speed of 617 mph,
below the speed of sound.

While the F-313 speed of 240 kias would make it tough to
shoot down in a dog fight (low turn radius compared to an F-22),
it makes it vulnerable to even drones along the gulf coastline
once visually identified (BTW, that's easily done at 240 knots!).

An F-18 Block II could probably easily scan a fan-blade count
of this F-313 prototype and nail it on its first flight.

That said -- Noise IS hazardous from ground-based sources HUMINT
assets which then coordinate with look-down radar platforms
for "tighter" radar scans from airborne surveillance.

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 Quoting: Bucephelus


the F117 was also noisy. It was only slow because the early stealth design didn't allow for speed. They would have gone for it if they could.

I doubt the F-313 sould ever get to the merge with an F-22. First, the radar on the F-22 is far superior and they likely have a missle lock on this piece of junk from 50 miles out. Second, even if they got to the merge, the turn radius is far lower than you'd expect on an F-22 due to the vectored thrust.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


The toy will never fly in combat, the dihedral is for compression in supersonic foreward flight, any attempts to maneuver will play havoc with lift dynamics. Theres not enough wing or control surface to allow the thing to slow down enough to land it safely.
The whole thing is designed to look 'badass' to shepherds and inpressional children
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
All is wishful thinking of some morons, filled with aspartame and junk food, living in fantasy land and thinking nothing could happen to them.

All of you seems to be experts in avionics, weaponry, encrypted telecom, jamming you already know all the thing about this s##t.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33414518


OK Vlad!!!

norespect
 Quoting: Melton Mowbray


If this is your maximum intellectual capacity (bet you still have to reckon, what the heck is that?)

no wonder this gentlemen officer is saying at the minute 15:

[link to www.youtube.com]

You are trying to deny reality, you know that story with the ostrich & stuff!
whatever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33414518


I think you are a tad bit dellusional.
 Quoting: Melton Mowbray





Being called a "tad bit dellusional" by one called Melton Mowbray which it's avatar resembles "melt & mown brains" I think is a tad bit funny, isn't it?
lmao
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OK Vlad!!!

norespect
 Quoting: Melton Mowbray


If this is your maximum intellectual capacity (bet you still have to reckon, what the heck is that?)

no wonder this gentlemen officer is saying at the minute 15:

[link to www.youtube.com]

You are trying to deny reality, you know that story with the ostrich & stuff!
whatever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33414518


I think you are a tad bit dellusional.
 Quoting: Melton Mowbray





Being called a "tad bit dellusional" by one called Melton Mowbray which it's avatar resembles "melt & mown brains" I think is a tad bit funny, isn't it?
lmao
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Must be a slow day in Romania today.
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If this is your maximum intellectual capacity (bet you still have to reckon, what the heck is that?)

no wonder this gentlemen officer is saying at the minute 15:

[link to www.youtube.com]

You are trying to deny reality, you know that story with the ostrich & stuff!
whatever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33414518


I think you are a tad bit dellusional.
 Quoting: Melton Mowbray





Being called a "tad bit dellusional" by one called Melton Mowbray which it's avatar resembles "melt & mown brains" I think is a tad bit funny, isn't it?
lmao
 Quoting: teutony


Must be a slow day in Romania today.
 Quoting: Melton Mowbray


You bet!5a
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
Even if it is a mock up which it is, do you think they would show the real deal on camera? Nope.

As I said for some reason people underestimate Iran. Sadly their king is a madman (Ali Khamenei). Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is'nt a madman and deserves to be a leader. He is a voice of rationality and not a fool like the leaders that run our countries imo.

This all becomes irrelivant anyway due to anti gravity which im sure you know the usa and uk possess.
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This the best the best a 7th century suicide cult has to offer?
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I would laugh if I saw a fighter jet designed by the 4th century death cult that infests our military, if they didn't have atheist scientists to do it. and the christians still think the weapons and jets and tanks given to them by science still hit their targets according of the will of God.

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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
Iran has a history of faking photos of supposed military equipment. In reality they have a few old russian fighters (the newest aircraft they have) and some very old F-4s and F-14s from the US. They have a few indigenous aircraft but nothing worth mentioning.

years ago they claimed they had some SA-20 launchers and proudly displayed them in a parade. The pics showed they were really multiple oil drums welded together and sitting on a truck. Good enough to fool their public but not anyone that actually knows about the equipment.

[link to defensetech.org]
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


can't you see that that is Iran's tactic?
makes you really think. do they have them really? or they don't?

sometimes they act like they're really retarded for you to attack them, and come out as the victim and unleash hell like the Nazis did when Britain n France declared war on Nazi Germany.
the sent two monkeys to space, one from in 2011 and one in 2013. the 2011 one was the monkey with the mole, which it died. the brown monkey was the one in 2013 which the Iranian news filmed the monkey before launch and after landing.
the Western media made a mistake(did iran a favour) to tell that the monkey to space was a hoax.

that Jet was a mockup. but they flied the prototype sometimes before that. they were just trying to show how it looks and you'll later see its departure and landing at the Iranian air show. it looks weird but that's what everyone said about the F-117 before its operation. don't be so prejudice.

We'll see what Iran is capable of in the future
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whatever that thing they built is, it looks pretty cool. doesn't look like it has weapons though...
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
heres the cockpit pic:

[link to i47.tinypic.com]


This is unreal! How did Iran get this technology?

Fiberglass models should only be in the hands of the US!
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


Is that a cassette player in the middle console?
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heres the cockpit pic:

[link to i47.tinypic.com]


This is unreal! How did Iran get this technology?

Fiberglass models should only be in the hands of the US!
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


Is that a cassette player in the middle console?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16911207

Yes, CD technology isn't perfected yet in iran :)
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
heres the cockpit pic:

[link to i47.tinypic.com]


This is unreal! How did Iran get this technology?

Fiberglass models should only be in the hands of the US!
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


Is that a cassette player in the middle console?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16911207

Yes, CD technology isn't perfected yet in iran :)
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whatever it is. CD or cassette, its very cool. To thin Iranians are so laid back that they listen to music during a dogfight. Go Iran. lol
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
heres the cockpit pic:

[link to i47.tinypic.com]


This is unreal! How did Iran get this technology?

Fiberglass models should only be in the hands of the US!
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


Is that a cassette player in the middle console?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16911207

Yes, CD technology isn't perfected yet in iran :)
 Quoting: uscrusader1


whatever it is. CD or cassette, its very cool. To thin Iranians are so laid back that they listen to music during a dogfight. Go Iran. lol
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lol, They play 'Top Gun' soundtracks.
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
heres the cockpit pic:

[link to i47.tinypic.com]


This is unreal! How did Iran get this technology?

Fiberglass models should only be in the hands of the US!
 Quoting: Holden 32744103


Is that a cassette player in the middle console?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16911207


[link to i45.tinypic.com]
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Re: inside cockpit look of Iran's qaher F-313 stealth fighter
Judging by the post, it seems that most of you do not know a single bit of info outside what you are fed by your media as propeganda.
Here is a titbit. Did you know (from Wiki)
Iran possesses the technology to launch superfast anti-submarine rockets which can travel at the speed of 100 meters per second under water, making the country second only to Russia in possessing the technology.

Iran is among the five countries in the world to have developed amunitions with laser targeting technology.

Iran is among the few countries that possess the technological know-how of the unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) fitted with scanning and reconnaissance systems.

Iran is among the 12 countries with missile technology.

Just think, there are nearly 200 countries in the world. 27 of them in Europe who is meant to be technologically advanced. Yet Iran is among top 7 in many areas and top 12 in many many others.

Don't forget the rabit and the hare story. There is a lesson to be learnt in this story for many of you posters





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