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Gov't ready to take pensions, 401K's!!!!!

 
MaxMad

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Dont worry they'll give you T-Bills in exchange!
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Dont worry they'll give you T-Bills in exchange!
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The obvious concept is that when the government runs out of money, or they face a drying up in interest for its debt, they will come for the $19.4 trillion in American’s retirement accounts. It seems that day may be finally drawing near.
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All because they did so well with Social Security, right?
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I've seen these 'trial balloons' since 2008 here and there- this one strikes me as the most serious. Because it sounds so 'soft'- we just want to help....

This is big IMO as it coincides with reports joe 6-pack is getting back in the market hugr. So keep this going for a few months so as to as much retail back in the markets as possible- banksters get a few bag holders as if they need more money.

Then crash the market- or just quit propping it up- gravity will take over. Business and investors lose big. Retail says no-mas. Gov swoops in like Mr Potter buy up shares .50 on the dollar to convert to Treasuries.

And that's all she wrote.

Easy-peezy.
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02/02/2013 09:49 PM
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This is another classic example of how the money masters are steering money (with the steerable money they are printing instead of the regular un-steerable inflation created through the fractional reserve lending scheme) into whatever saves the system that "they" have their fortunes and continued generational wealth in. While they shut down the price discovery mechanism off the supposed open and free markets.

1) Move the corporations and manufacturing out of the country "check"

2) Leverage every dollar of healthy inflation 100 to 1 "check"

3) Create a false flag to take everyone's rights away 911. "check"

4) Put the country in so much debt that it stifles growth. "check"

5) Create a financial crisis to steal the public's savings and equity. "check"

6) Shut down employment, production, output and investment that feeds the fractional reserve lending system that would create healthy economy expanding inflation to stop all the "unsteerable inflation". "check"

7) Fire up the printing presses so that the pressman can steer the freshly printed money/inflation to themselves to create and maintain their wealth and give the illusion that everything is Hunky Dory. "check"

8) Tell the public to turn in their guns while arming themselves to the hilt. "check"

10) Tell the public you are going to steal/steer all the money from a system that was set up for a free and open market to grow your retirement savings............."It's Next
It's Next"
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02/02/2013 09:56 PM
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Dont worry they'll give you T-Bills in exchange!
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The hell you say?!
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Re: Gov't ready to take pensions, 401K's!!!!!
This is another classic example of how the money masters are steering money (with the steerable money they are printing instead of the regular un-steerable inflation created through the fractional reserve lending scheme) into whatever saves the system that "they" have their fortunes and continued generational wealth in. While they shut down the price discovery mechanism off the supposed open and free markets.

1) Move the corporations and manufacturing out of the country "check"

2) Leverage every dollar of healthy inflation 100 to 1 "check"

3) Create a false flag to take everyone's rights away 911. "check"

4) Put the country in so much debt that it stifles growth. "check"

5) Create a financial crisis to steal the public's savings and equity. "check"

6) Shut down employment, production, output and investment that feeds the fractional reserve lending system that would create healthy economy expanding inflation to stop all the "unsteerable inflation". "check"

7) Fire up the printing presses so that the pressman can steer the freshly printed money/inflation to themselves to create and maintain their wealth and give the illusion that everything is Hunky Dory. "check"

8) Tell the public to turn in their guns while arming themselves to the hilt. "check"

10) Tell the public you are going to steal/steer all the money from a system that was set up for a free and open market to grow your retirement savings............."It's Next
It's Next"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33034699


If you don't know what's next, better hide in a cave... seriously! That is, if you want to live.
Your country, USA will be destroyed by your enemies very soon, 3 to 4 years at most! Think 2016.
It's written in the Bible.
THIS IS NOT A JOKE!
PhilippinoBob
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Simply another obama regime ploy at spread the wealth from our pockets whereby token amounts are spread about and the government has access to the lion’s share of our hard-earned dollars.

Why tax if that dictator obama can simply take what he wants from our retirement funds to fund muslims who cannot stand Americans and other agendas that do not benefit Americans.
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02/02/2013 11:08 PM
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So ?

My tiredment fund is constantly emptied whenever the loan is paid off.

Its been nice paying 1.7 % interest on a home loan , a car loan , a precious metal loan . Another couple months and taking out another 50 thousand dollar loan with a 15 year pay off for property at a cheap interest rate ).
No Dhimmi
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Reagan on Social
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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02/02/2013 11:16 PM

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See if you can direct register or certificate your shares, you have nothing whatsoever but a paper statement, no matter who you buy through or buy from here or anywhere.
Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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02/02/2013 11:18 PM

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Re: Gov't ready to take pensions, 401K's!!!!!
So ?

My tiredment fund is constantly emptied whenever the loan is paid off.

Its been nice paying 1.7 % interest on a home loan , a car loan , a precious metal loan . Another couple months and taking out another 50 thousand dollar loan with a 15 year pay off for property at a cheap interest rate ).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24291937


Thus, I suppose that you will be thankful for receiving a pittance from the government upon retiring just to watch your investments falter because you cannot pay for their upkeep and fall into the hands of the government.

Pssst.... Under obamacare if you cannot pay for the government’s limits then your precious metals becomes the property of the government.
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Re: Gov't ready to take pensions, 401K's!!!!!
This is another classic example of how the money masters are steering money (with the steerable money they are printing instead of the regular un-steerable inflation created through the fractional reserve lending scheme) into whatever saves the system that "they" have their fortunes and continued generational wealth in. While they shut down the price discovery mechanism off the supposed open and free markets.

1) Move the corporations and manufacturing out of the country "check"

2) Leverage every dollar of healthy inflation 100 to 1 "check"

3) Create a false flag to take everyone's rights away 911. "check"

4) Put the country in so much debt that it stifles growth. "check"

5) Create a financial crisis to steal the public's savings and equity. "check"

6) Shut down employment, production, output and investment that feeds the fractional reserve lending system that would create healthy economy expanding inflation to stop all the "unsteerable inflation". "check"

7) Fire up the printing presses so that the pressman can steer the freshly printed money/inflation to themselves to create and maintain their wealth and give the illusion that everything is Hunky Dory. "check"

8) Tell the public to turn in their guns while arming themselves to the hilt. "check"

10) Tell the public you are going to steal/steer all the money from a system that was set up for a free and open market to grow your retirement savings............."It's Next
It's Next"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33034699



Liked your post "check"

Concise and Succinct" "check"
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I Corinthians 2:14

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02/02/2013 11:24 PM
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All because they did so well with Social Security, right?
 Quoting: Skepticnumberone


No Shit!
Every time these people get together to REDUCE the Deficit, TRILLIONS MORE ARE ADDED. What the Fck is wrong with these people! Do they not understand basic math?!?

:Sigh...:
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02/02/2013 11:30 PM

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Buy physical gold and silver - hold in your possession -

While you can
Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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02/02/2013 11:32 PM
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Buy physical gold and silver - hold in your possession -

While you can
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


:way...:
I like to think of it as buying 'real' money with 'fake' money.
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02/02/2013 11:39 PM
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This is how those unfunded union retirement schemes are going to be paid for. Gotta keep the goons fat, dumb, and happy.
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02/02/2013 11:46 PM
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Watch them give everyone a retirement check. Kiss your money good bye..
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02/02/2013 11:47 PM
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Buy physical gold and silver - hold in your possession -

While you can
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


:way...:
I like to think of it as buying 'real' money with 'fake' money.
 Quoting: Tanarus


Indeed it is.
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02/02/2013 11:52 PM

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Buy physical gold and silver - hold in your possession -

While you can
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Ignore the FDA and their allegiance to the UN’s Codex Alimentarius agenda and keep yourself as healthy as possible otherwise under obamacare your gold purchases are documented and your gold can be confiscated for your metered healthcare.

Rule of thumb if the UN is poking the backside of the FDA to banish certain home remedies such as colloidal silver, peppermint, olive leaf then pay attention.
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This is another classic example of how the money masters are steering money (with the steerable money they are printing instead of the regular un-steerable inflation created through the fractional reserve lending scheme) into whatever saves the system that "they" have their fortunes and continued generational wealth in. While they shut down the price discovery mechanism off the supposed open and free markets.

1) Move the corporations and manufacturing out of the country "check"

2) Leverage every dollar of healthy inflation 100 to 1 "check"

3) Create a false flag to take everyone's rights away 911. "check"

4) Put the country in so much debt that it stifles growth. "check"

5) Create a financial crisis to steal the public's savings and equity. "check"

6) Shut down employment, production, output and investment that feeds the fractional reserve lending system that would create healthy economy expanding inflation to stop all the "unsteerable inflation". "check"

7) Fire up the printing presses so that the pressman can steer the freshly printed money/inflation to themselves to create and maintain their wealth and give the illusion that everything is Hunky Dory. "check"

8) Tell the public to turn in their guns while arming themselves to the hilt. "check"

10) Tell the public you are going to steal/steer all the money from a system that was set up for a free and open market to grow your retirement savings............."It's Next
It's Next"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33034699


they are killing the dollar purposely!
they are doing a great job too
they want it loke toilet paper
if o was on it i might try it see if it works
i sure aint
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Re: Gov't ready to take pensions, 401K's!!!!!
So ?

My tiredment fund is constantly emptied whenever the loan is paid off.

Its been nice paying 1.7 % interest on a home loan , a car loan , a precious metal loan . Another couple months and taking out another 50 thousand dollar loan with a 15 year pay off for property at a cheap interest rate ).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24291937


Thus, I suppose that you will be thankful for receiving a pittance from the government upon retiring just to watch your investments falter because you cannot pay for their upkeep and fall into the hands of the government.

Pssst.... Under obamacare if you cannot pay for the government’s limits then your precious metals becomes the property of the government.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


well bud , the best paying choice out of the funds has average 1.9 % out of the last 15 years , all the other choices lost money .

So my modest house car and some pm's only cost me in total around 10 k in interest over 15 years ) which left a whole lotta money going into other things besides interest to the banksters , Really I don't mind that at all. Thanks for pretending too care . now get back to slaving like a good little tax donkey to pay my excellent salary and benefits in today's economy )
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A lot of liberals see retirement accounts as "unfair". They want to socialize retirement so everyone has to live off monthly annuities.
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So ?

My tiredment fund is constantly emptied whenever the loan is paid off.

Its been nice paying 1.7 % interest on a home loan , a car loan , a precious metal loan . Another couple months and taking out another 50 thousand dollar loan with a 15 year pay off for property at a cheap interest rate ).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24291937


Thus, I suppose that you will be thankful for receiving a pittance from the government upon retiring just to watch your investments falter because you cannot pay for their upkeep and fall into the hands of the government.

Pssst.... Under obamacare if you cannot pay for the government’s limits then your precious metals becomes the property of the government.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


well bud , the best paying choice out of the funds has average 1.9 % out of the last 15 years , all the other choices lost money .

So my modest house car and some pm's only cost me in total around 10 k in interest over 15 years ) which left a whole lotta money going into other things besides interest to the banksters , Really I don't mind that at all. Thanks for pretending too care . now get back to slaving like a good little tax donkey to pay my excellent salary and benefits in today's economy )
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24291937


Little gal I was not pretending to care I was simply trying to inform you that your ignorant attempts to bet the system will bite you in the backside in the end. Thus, carry on parasite reality will soon knock upon your door and catch you unawares.
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They've had their eye on this for quite a while...

I could see them doing it, but they would need to crash the stock market hard (and I mean hard!) for people to not absolutely freak the fuck out...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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A lot of liberals see retirement accounts as "unfair". They want to socialize retirement so everyone has to live off monthly annuities.
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What these progressive obamatard minions fail to realize is that the funds the government steals flows through the government coffers first and the dregs the peoples reap think North Korea, the former Soviet Union, Cuba and a host of other socialist and communist countries and there is no fairness just pittance in relation to government theft.
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Touch our 401k's after so much other theft...

That will be "The Last Straw".

Promise.

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So ?

My tiredment fund is constantly emptied whenever the loan is paid off.

Its been nice paying 1.7 % interest on a home loan , a car loan , a precious metal loan . Another couple months and taking out another 50 thousand dollar loan with a 15 year pay off for property at a cheap interest rate ).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24291937


Thus, I suppose that you will be thankful for receiving a pittance from the government upon retiring just to watch your investments falter because you cannot pay for their upkeep and fall into the hands of the government.

Pssst.... Under obamacare if you cannot pay for the government’s limits then your precious metals becomes the property of the government.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


well bud , the best paying choice out of the funds has average 1.9 % out of the last 15 years , all the other choices lost money .

So my modest house car and some pm's only cost me in total around 10 k in interest over 15 years ) which left a whole lotta money going into other things besides interest to the banksters , Really I don't mind that at all. Thanks for pretending too care . now get back to slaving like a good little tax donkey to pay my excellent salary and benefits in today's economy )
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24291937


Little gal I was not pretending to care I was simply trying to inform you that your ignorant attempts to bet the system will bite you in the backside in the end. Thus, carry on parasite reality will soon knock upon your door and catch you unawares.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Whatever you say fucko ) Have a fun extinction level event, worm.
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They wont do this till they get our guns...which will never happen.

If they really needed cash, they can simply print more. If they really took 401s, its to destroy Americans and should be considered an act of war.

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