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Gov't ready to take pensions, 401K's!!!!!

 
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02/03/2013 12:47 AM
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Touch our 401k's after so much other theft...

That will be "The Last Straw".

Promise.

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This following the attempted gun grab makes it clear what is going on. The global mafia thought they could disarm us so that we couldn't protect our assets.

They are soooooo few, and so scared. We are onto them.
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02/03/2013 12:51 AM
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They wont do this till they get our guns...which will never happen.

If they really needed cash, they can simply print more. If they really took 401s, its to destroy Americans and should be considered an act of war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1012969


"National Sheriff's Association Announces They Will Not Support Unconstitutional Gun Control Laws"
[link to www.youtube.com]

So the next move would be get rid of the sharrifs. That's when you KNOW Governments going Rouge on us.
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I don't understand this whole thing they think they can do. 401k's aren't theirs to take, what gives them the right?
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They wont do this till they get our guns...which will never happen.

If they really needed cash, they can simply print more. If they really took 401s, its to destroy Americans and should be considered an act of war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1012969


They don't want your guns , you fucking tool.
For every person with food storage , there are 100 with guns , how do you think that is going to work out ?
Ha the elites and their minions will circle the wagons and come mop up your loser asses some spring time. After winter , violence, plague and hunger have destroyed your desire to fight ).
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02/03/2013 01:57 AM
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Buy physical gold and silver - hold in your possession -

While you can
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Ignore the FDA and their allegiance to the UN’s Codex Alimentarius agenda and keep yourself as healthy as possible otherwise under obamacare your gold purchases are documented and your gold can be confiscated for your metered healthcare.

Rule of thumb if the UN is poking the backside of the FDA to banish certain home remedies such as colloidal silver, peppermint, olive leaf then pay attention.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Can someone substantiate this stuff about the govt documenting and confiscating PMs? It's alluded to, but there's no hard links or citations from the law.
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I don't understand this whole thing they think they can do. 401k's aren't theirs to take, what gives them the right?
 Quoting: CeeLite


1.4 billion rounds of hollow point ammo and lots of other hardware is their "right". It's called the law of the jungle, AKA might makes right.

It's amoral and dishonest, but they don't care. They only care about if THEY get hurt. It's in their best interest to steal our stuff under color of law though, so that's their initial plan. If that doesn't work, then the gloves come off.
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02/03/2013 02:04 AM
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japanpmThe jokes on them I aint got any of that shit! By the way whats wrong with you alls generation? Thanks for crapping the bed for the younger generations
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02/03/2013 02:13 AM
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japanpmThe jokes on them I aint got any of that shit! By the way whats wrong with you alls generation? Thanks for crapping the bed for the younger generations
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It's not about generations. It's about allowing idiots to vote, and not obeying the law. Obama is not a boomer, and he's much of the problem. It's about allowing corporations to buy elections and influence per the Supremes.

The current few administrations want to divide and conquer, and if we fight each other, then the bad guys win.

Dr. Ron Paul said it clearly: Freedom, Prosperity and Peace.
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02/03/2013 02:23 AM
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who ever has the most firepower, makes the laws......
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This country (really a CORPORATION) is coming down on every front by design. Austerity/Agenda 21/Eugencis are all the main elements of the plan folks--been coming for decades.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
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02/03/2013 03:13 AM
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I sure hope none of you have invested in that. First the money grab, then next the gun grab.
After that, they will come for the food. What a crazy world we live in.
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02/03/2013 03:16 AM
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Oh yeah! Like the government can really handle money..ummm...just how much in debt is our government now?? Trillions!

That really makes me trust them to handle mine, NOT!
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This kind of fear-mongering is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

When fearful people cash-out their 401ks prematurely, the
government gets part of their 401k in taxes and penalties.

I wouldn't be surprised if the fear-mongers are government agents.



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This kind of fear-mongering is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

When fearful people cash-out their 401ks prematurely, the
government gets part of their 401k in taxes and penalties.

I wouldn't be surprised if the fear-mongers are government agents.



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18850150


Income tax is voluntary. If you're a "non-taxpayer" this won't apply.
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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02/03/2013 04:07 AM
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bsflag My ira and 401k are private accounts. Govt cannot touch them. Are our bank accounts next?
UseLessRepEATER
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bsflag My ira and 401k are private accounts. Govt cannot touch them. Are our bank accounts next?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24090746


Nothing about us slaves is "private" anymore.
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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02/03/2013 09:16 AM

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Buy physical gold and silver - hold in your possession -

While you can
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Ignore the FDA and their allegiance to the UN’s Codex Alimentarius agenda and keep yourself as healthy as possible otherwise under obamacare your gold purchases are documented and your gold can be confiscated for your metered healthcare.

Rule of thumb if the UN is poking the backside of the FDA to banish certain home remedies such as colloidal silver, peppermint, olive leaf then pay attention.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Can someone substantiate this stuff about the govt documenting and confiscating PMs? It's alluded to, but there's no hard links or citations from the law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33404621


Ever since obama took office he had been looking towards taking over retirement accounts in an attempt to end government fiscal woes much what the Argentine government did when facing bankruptcy.

There would be far more pushback from Americans than the obama healthcare garbage foisted upon Americans. Thus, obama has not yet tag teamed us with drooling follower communists as pelosi and reid to cram a bill through as they did.

There has been much published concerning the takeover of IRA and 401k and other retirement programs and as tax and spend obama runs out of options as the economy continues spiraling downwards he will steal more money.

From the U.S. Department of Labor much can be found here:

U.S. Department of Labor publishes agenda for September 14-15 joint hearing on lifetime income options for retirement plans

United States Department Of Labor
Washington — Today the U. S. Department of Labor’s Employee Benefits Security Administration (EBSA) released the agenda for the upcoming joint hearing with the Department of the Treasury on lifetime income options for retirement plans. Accompanying the agenda are copies of the witnesses’ requests to testify and testimony outlines. The hearing begins at 9:00 a.m. (EST) on September 14 and 15, 2010. The hearing will be held in the Labor Department’s main auditorium, 200 Constitution Avenue, NW in Washington, D.C.

[link to www.dol.gov]

November 7, 2008
House discusses 401k/IRA confiscation
[link to www.economicpopulist.org]

November 9th, 2008
Will IRA confiscation plan cause a run on distributions?
[link to libertymaven.com]

01/24/2010
401k / IRA Confiscation?
[link to www.dailypaul.com]

From March 29, 2010:
And You Thought It Wasn’t About a Takeover! Obama Wants Mandatory Conversion or Confiscation of Your 401(k)s and Ira’s
[link to newsflavor.com]

September 1, 2010
US Departments of Labor and Treasury Schedule Hearing on Confiscation of Private Retirement Accounts
[link to news.coinupdate.com]

September 7, 2010
Confiscation of Private Retirement Accounts: US Departments of Labor and Treasury Schedule Hearing
[link to ppjg.me]

September 9, 2011
Due Diligence Tip #1 – Avoid Self-Directed IRA/401k Custodians
[link to www.jeffnabers.com]

Obama Begins Push for New National Retirement System
[link to www.nationalseniorscouncil.org]

Stop Obama’s Push for a New National Retirement System
[link to seniorscouncil.activistmanager.com (secure)]

9 November 2012
Private Savings Accounts May Be "On the Table" in Fiscal Cliff Talks
[link to www.nationalseniorscouncil.org]
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Re: Gov't ready to take pensions, 401K's!!!!!
This is another classic example of how the money masters are steering money (with the steerable money they are printing instead of the regular un-steerable inflation created through the fractional reserve lending scheme) into whatever saves the system that "they" have their fortunes and continued generational wealth in. While they shut down the price discovery mechanism off the supposed open and free markets.

1) Move the corporations and manufacturing out of the country "check"

2) Leverage every dollar of healthy inflation 100 to 1 "check"

3) Create a false flag to take everyone's rights away 911. "check"

4) Put the country in so much debt that it stifles growth. "check"

5) Create a financial crisis to steal the public's savings and equity. "check"

6) Shut down employment, production, output and investment that feeds the fractional reserve lending system that would create healthy economy expanding inflation to stop all the "unsteerable inflation". "check"

7) Fire up the printing presses so that the pressman can steer the freshly printed money/inflation to themselves to create and maintain their wealth and give the illusion that everything is Hunky Dory. "check"

8) Tell the public to turn in their guns while arming themselves to the hilt. "check"

10) Tell the public you are going to steal/steer all the money from a system that was set up for a free and open market to grow your retirement savings............."It's Next
It's Next"
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Very well done sir.
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02/03/2013 11:15 AM
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bsflag My ira and 401k are private accounts. Govt cannot touch them. Are our bank accounts next?
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Gold was private property in bank vaults too in the 30's , did that stop the goverment from drilling them out and stealing the contents ?
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02/03/2013 11:37 AM
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What should people do that have money sitting right now in IRA and 401K accounts??

Should we pull all of our money out of our IRA's and close them out??

You can't close a 401K unless you leave your job. Does anybody know what people should be doing in the event this happens??

I've been scraping and trying to save for retirement for a while now..I'm not willing to give up what little I have been able to save under any circumstances..I'll quit my job and pull out all my money first.

What should people be doing??
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What should people do that have money sitting right now in IRA and 401K accounts??

Should we pull all of our money out of our IRA's and close them out??

You can't close a 401K unless you leave your job. Does anybody know what people should be doing in the event this happens??

I've been scraping and trying to save for retirement for a while now..I'm not willing to give up what little I have been able to save under any circumstances..I'll quit my job and pull out all my money first.

What should people be doing??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21100567


I always say pull out cause you never know, but not sure if it applies to this topic
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What should people do that have money sitting right now in IRA and 401K accounts??

Should we pull all of our money out of our IRA's and close them out??

You can't close a 401K unless you leave your job. Does anybody know what people should be doing in the event this happens??

I've been scraping and trying to save for retirement for a while now..I'm not willing to give up what little I have been able to save under any circumstances..I'll quit my job and pull out all my money first.

What should people be doing??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21100567


If they do take it all you cant say you weren't forewarned.. Now with that in mind, do what you would like!
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What should people do that have money sitting right now in IRA and 401K accounts??

Should we pull all of our money out of our IRA's and close them out??

You can't close a 401K unless you leave your job. Does anybody know what people should be doing in the event this happens??

I've been scraping and trying to save for retirement for a while now..I'm not willing to give up what little I have been able to save under any circumstances..I'll quit my job and pull out all my money first.

What should people be doing??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21100567


There are ways around it, such as a loan against your 401k for purchasing a home, or just a loan in general...
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gold is good
but I got some concerns with it

#1
it went from 250 in 2002 all the way to 1700 in 2002
that's a lot in ten years
inflation was not that much
it could be sign of the another asset bubble


#2
it did get confiscated before ( 1934 )

#3
I mean , what does it do besides being nice and shiny ?
no dont tell me industrial use , its not that much
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