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But dude it's for the children. You know the least qualified generation to speak on anything on earth?

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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
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Get back to your prayer rug and assume butt fuck position.

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Wow, you sure are a trashy piece of shit huh?
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There are Americans who argue that the Constitution is "out of date" and "out of touch" and should be trashed or ignored. The Constitution has been the biggest impediment to tyrannical rule in America since 1776 and these "scholars" want to tear it up. Geniuses. Article here: [link to thedcpost.com]
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Those are NOT Americans. They should move to the balless pussy nations that have already lost. Dont believe in or want to protect the Constitution of the United States? YOU should be put down or pushed out.
Empathy hurts.
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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302314


iamwith
I agree totally in your admittance that we are under armed. I also agree with you that Government has become tyranny.

So you're saying we should arm ourselves with military weapons in order to end our tyranny correct?
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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
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No one asked you AUSTRALIA. Keep your snarky opinions about OUR right to yourself. You constantly trash any thread that mentions OUR constitution. No one cares what a foreigner thinks about the internal workings of OUR country.
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There are Americans who argue that the Constitution is "out of date" and "out of touch" and should be trashed or ignored. The Constitution has been the biggest impediment to tyrannical rule in America since 1776 and these "scholars" want to tear it up. Geniuses. Article here: [link to thedcpost.com]
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bump
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"The opening of the United States Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson in 1776, states as follows:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

Judging by this, most on GLP are enemies of the usa constit.

wat do?
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As long as a small group of sociopaths have the legal authority to initiate violence, and the legal monopoly to print money, the U.S. Constitution is irrelevant.

Constitutional worship has morphed into a religion.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
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So what would you have them do braniac, give em all up to be at the mercy of their maniac government. The US is the last of the worlds countries allowed to have any gun they want. Once their disarmed it's game over.
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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302314


You are correct. Further admendments, such as inclusion of the principles found in the DICK ACT, need to be included, and the Militia Act installed, to get it truly well regulated.

These are just many ADMENDMANTS that need to be added.

That is the beautiful thing about our system. There is no need to destroy anything, because the document can be added onto throughout time as needed, to meet the challenges and the situations of those times.
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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
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You know nothing of guerrilla warfare. Just shut your piehole before you sound more then completely stupid.
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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
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stfu You upside dow asshole
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There are Americans who argue that the Constitution is "out of date" and "out of touch" and should be trashed or ignored. The Constitution has been the biggest impediment to tyrannical rule in America since 1776 and these "scholars" want to tear it up. Geniuses. Article here: [link to thedcpost.com]
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Those are NOT Americans. They should move to the balless pussy nations that have already lost. Dont believe in or want to protect the Constitution of the United States? YOU should be put down or pushed out.
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clappa
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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302314


Paid programming brought to you by....? shilltastic comment, btw. Though I am not arguing th ehypocrisy of our current administration (or the theree preceding it) only that the constitution is outdated.

It is not. People are simply not as smart now as they were 200 years ago, and we can thank the pinko-commie public ed system for that.
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As long as a small group of sociopaths have the legal authority to initiate violence, and the legal monopoly to print money, the U.S. Constitution is irrelevant.

Constitutional worship has morphed into a religion.
 Quoting: Shingen


It is just for the reasons you stated that the Constitution is more needed now than ever before. It's a roadmap to even the little bit of freedom Americans have left. Consider it the Business Plan for the country. It can guide us through the garbage that is being thrown at us by the current Federal Regime.
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As long as a small group of sociopaths have the legal authority to initiate violence, and the legal monopoly to print money, the U.S. Constitution is irrelevant.

Constitutional worship has morphed into a religion.
 Quoting: Shingen


It is just for the reasons you stated that the Constitution is more needed now than ever before. It's a roadmap to even the little bit of freedom Americans have left. Consider it the Business Plan for the country. It can guide us through the garbage that is being thrown at us by the current Federal Regime.
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the public enforcing these ideals enshrined, for themselves, as the local level, would do alot of good in creating a defense at the local levels, that would emanate outwards.

im not sure the federal branch, as it is now, is suited for the needs of the people. it either needs modification, via amendments, statues and codes, etc, or removal from the framework, and something else, or nothing, put into its place.

it is faulty. theoretical systems of its absence have been formulated, as well as its modification, and can be found online.

an even better system would be direct representation by the people, wherever they may be, technology proves usesfull in this, but security is the problem, and how that would be administered, maintained, and worked out.

jeffersons ideas of "wards", down to the location of where every individual was standing, using, etc, their land, etc, this idea is a good one, and his reasoning what that this way cities, counties, states, federal, or anyone else, could not assume power over another, and everything was based on fully disclosed contracts and free will consent, within a frame work of common law. still till this day, for each individual, the notary public, and the court of clerks, is a supreme court of record, for one of the People.
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There are Americans who argue that the Constitution is "out of date" and "out of touch" and should be trashed or ignored. The Constitution has been the biggest impediment to tyrannical rule in America since 1776 and these "scholars" want to tear it up. Geniuses. Article here: [link to thedcpost.com]
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Those are NOT Americans. They should move to the balless pussy nations that have already lost. Dont believe in or want to protect the Constitution of the United States? YOU should be put down or pushed out.
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put down hard would be my preference.
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There are Americans who argue that the Constitution is "out of date" and "out of touch" and should be trashed or ignored. The Constitution has been the biggest impediment to tyrannical rule in America since 1776 and these "scholars" want to tear it up. Geniuses. Article here: [link to thedcpost.com]
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Those are NOT Americans. They should move to the balless pussy nations that have already lost. Dont believe in or want to protect the Constitution of the United States? YOU should be put down or pushed out.
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Put down hard would be my preference. The BOR is very thinly standing between us and the destroyers but it is still there. Much to their dismay.
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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
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You just don't know what you're talking about.
Not another lousy foreign actor in the White House - Liam Neeson 2016! A foreign actor you can believe in.
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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
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So Australia has douche bag liberal progressives also?
I did not know that.
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Yes, the Aussies have been pretty much emasculated over the past 20 years.
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"By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution .... "
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So accordingly Aussie, by your logic ("some aspects are outdated"), maybe we really need a 28th Amendment, which would mitigate all former Voting Amendments by stating that you cannot vote unless you pay taxes. Don't you think that would clean up a lot of this mess here?
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So if an American citizen lives off the grid, sells nothing, and buys nothing you believe that person should not have a vote. The federal income tax is/was unconstitutional and no one cares.
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The basic problem is no matter who you vote for, you are voting for a System Approved Candidate. The 2 party system is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch, and you and I are not one of the wolves.
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You, Sir, just hit the nail square on the head.
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While I am in complete agreement with AC22631829 & Mr. Weird, my remark is meant to be sarcastic... while they're trying to chop away at the 2nd Amendment push it right back in their faces, but never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.
BTW.... was the charter for the Fed renewed? I have'nt caught any threads on that... or have all these issues swept it under the rug?
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It is just for the reasons you stated that the Constitution is more needed now than ever before. It's a roadmap to even the little bit of freedom Americans have left. Consider it the Business Plan for the country. It can guide us through the garbage that is being thrown at us by the current Federal Regime.
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It's irrelevant as long as a certain class of individual (ie: lawyers) have the legal authority to write law, the legal authority to kidnap, incarcerate and confiscate through agents of the State, and the legal authority to regulate the value of money through printing.

There simply is no recourse for the average citizen. Citizens can not legally initiate violence, they can not legally print money, they can not legally refuse to pay monies or surrender their property, and they can not legally refuse to be kidnapped or incarcerated.

I don't see how a document; any document, can change these fundamental flaws of State power.

Since all three branches of government are infested with the same class of individual, they will always protect themselves through the violence of the State, and the printing press.

The entire system is based on the threat and use of force. It is inherently immoral, unethical, and ultimately self destructive.

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"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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It is just for the reasons you stated that the Constitution is more needed now than ever before. It's a roadmap to even the little bit of freedom Americans have left. Consider it the Business Plan for the country. It can guide us through the garbage that is being thrown at us by the current Federal Regime.
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It's irrelevant as long as a certain class of individual (ie: lawyers) have the legal authority to write law, the legal authority to kidnap and incarcerate through agents of the State, and the legal authority to regulate the value of money through printing.

There simply is no recourse for the average citizen. Citizens can not legally initiate violence, they can not legally print money, they can not legally refuse to pay monies, and they can not legally refuse to be kidnapped or incarcerated.

I don't see how a document; any document, can change these fundamental facts.

Since all three branches of government are infested with the same class of individual, they will always protect themselves through the violence of the State, and the printing press.

The the entire system is based on the threat and use of force. It is inherently immoral, unethical, and ultimately self destructive.
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I completely agree. My position and maybe it's not a very good one is that we should return to the constitution as a starting point. We are so far gone down the road to collectivist hell that I don't see any other option.

People are so heavily propagandized that central governments are necessary and desirable that the only option is to return to limited government via strict interpretation of the Constitution. Restoring that would be a start.

I would rather live in a voluntaryist system that honors the zero aggression principle and respect for private property but that's not going to happen.
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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
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Ok. And?

I Wouldn't Mind Owning A Couple Of Those Either
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I would rather live in a voluntaryist system that honors the zero aggression principle and respect for private property but that's not going to happen.
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If Man is not moral enough to govern himself, then Man is not moral enough to govern others.

Statism is a dangerous mental illness.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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I would rather live in a voluntaryist system that honors the zero aggression principle and respect for private property but that's not going to happen.
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If Man is not moral enough to govern himself, then Man is not moral enough to govern others.

Statism is a dangerous mental illness.
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Yes of course,but where do we go from where we are? Since people are incapable of recognizing these truths.
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It is outdated.

in 1776 guns were the most powerful weapons available and so a militia could take on the government, however, today guns are completely useless against tanks and fighter drones so the only reason they exist is to kill innocent people when you are having a bad day.

Truth.

By the way some other aspects are outdated in the constitution as well oh and the constitution hasn't stopped the USA from dropping bombs on little children...and being the worlds biggest exporter of terror and hate.
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Such BS.

The greatest general in history disagrees about what it takes to wage war.

The Bill of Rights is still the foundation of freedoms.
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It is just for the reasons you stated that the Constitution is more needed now than ever before. It's a roadmap to even the little bit of freedom Americans have left. Consider it the Business Plan for the country. It can guide us through the garbage that is being thrown at us by the current Federal Regime.
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It's irrelevant as long as a certain class of individual (ie: lawyers) have the legal authority to write law, the legal authority to kidnap, incarcerate and confiscate through agents of the State, and the legal authority to regulate the value of money through printing.

There simply is no recourse for the average citizen. Citizens can not legally initiate violence, they can not legally print money, they can not legally refuse to pay monies or surrender their property, and they can not legally refuse to be kidnapped or incarcerated.

I don't see how a document; any document, can change these fundamental flaws of State power.

Since all three branches of government are infested with the same class of individual, they will always protect themselves through the violence of the State, and the printing press.

The entire system is based on the threat and use of force. It is inherently immoral, unethical, and ultimately self destructive.
 Quoting: Shingen


There is no document, no piece of paper, that can change our abusive government. People have to do that but the piece of paper can be used as a goal to be reached, and as a rallying point for all people in the country to hold close to themselves, and protect. We are involved in a Quiet Revolution which can only be won one person at a time until a tipping point is reached. Talk to the guy at the gas station who is filling his car, about our lost freedoms. The housewife on the supermarket check out line. the waiter who brings you coffee. Remind them of the "good old days" when we could live our lives privately, without worrying who is listening to your phone calls and intercepting your Emails and texts. Remind them.
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There are Americans who argue that the Constitution is "out of date" and "out of touch" and should be trashed or ignored. The Constitution has been the biggest impediment to tyrannical rule in America since 1776 and these "scholars" want to tear it up. Geniuses. Article here: [link to thedcpost.com]
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No one who was born in the U.S. or who has come here to live and enjoy their right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" thinks the Constitution is out of touch.
Anyone who says this calls to an 'outside' government.
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p.s. Barak Obama was VOTED IN.
How do I now?
I voted for him!
He's a 2 termer - live with it.
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