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LEAKED UN REPORT: Solar Activity is Climate Culprit

 
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You do realize Fox is funded by the very people who would lose the most money if the world decided to stop burning carbon for it's fuel?

Better to rely on science sites and the like for your science information.

Here's some more sciencey links:

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The UN's climate science panel bemoaned Wednesday a fresh leak of data from a landmark report on global warming that it will start releasing this year.

"Clearly, it is regrettable, all the leaked material is in draft form, internal working documents," Jean-Pascal van Ypersele, vice president of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), told AFP

[link to phys.org]
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Greenhouse gases versus solar heating: New research shows complexity of global warming.

[link to phys.org]
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The effect of solar forcing on climate change is ‘extremely small’, an IPCC scientist said today.

[link to phys.org]
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Policymakers are attempting to contain global warming at less than 2°C. New estimates from a Norwegian project on climate calculations indicate this target may be more attainable than many experts have feared.

Read more at: [link to phys.org]
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02/04/2013 11:35 AM
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What If, since this is a conspiracy website anyway, what if this is the red herring?

Global warming is actually real and man made, but the results are going to be so complete that even trying to change now would do nearly nothing, except make the last few decades of mankind a little darker and more desperate?

I have not proof or evidence, that just occurred to me.
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Re: LEAKED UN REPORT: Solar Activity is Climate Culprit
What If, since this is a conspiracy website anyway, what if this is the red herring?

Global warming is actually real and man made, but the results are going to be so complete that even trying to change now would do nearly nothing, except make the last few decades of mankind a little darker and more desperate?

I have not proof or evidence, that just occurred to me.
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Now you're thinking! Not only that, but the people who run the world do so via oil moneys and the like. Put two and two together!
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May be they do this (the deliberate leaking) to turn our focuse to the Sun. Then may be we forget about the whole fake warming debate, which they manipulated to fit their agendas anyway. Oh but the Greenhouse is still there of course, they don't leave that. But they have established that for good in our minds and have got our compliances to tax us for it.

So what is the next they want to push on us? More sun factors may be and sun glasses. So we get even more depleted in essential vitamins. Perhaps they can even mandate us to ware protection or else the insurance companies will not pay for any illnesses.
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You do realize Fox is funded by the very people who would lose the most money if the world decided to stop burning carbon for it's fuel?

Better to rely on science sites and the like for your science information.

Here's some more sciencey links:

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The UN's climate science panel bemoaned Wednesday a fresh leak of data from a landmark report on global warming that it will start releasing this year.

"Clearly, it is regrettable, all the leaked material is in draft form, internal working documents," Jean-Pascal van Ypersele, vice president of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), told AFP

[link to phys.org]
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Greenhouse gases versus solar heating: New research shows complexity of global warming.

[link to phys.org]
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The effect of solar forcing on climate change is ‘extremely small’, an IPCC scientist said today.

[link to phys.org]
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Policymakers are attempting to contain global warming at less than 2°C. New estimates from a Norwegian project on climate calculations indicate this target may be more attainable than many experts have feared.

Read more at: [link to phys.org]
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^^^^ that's what ultimate libtard looks like. ^^^^
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Wow! Man, who would have thought of that?! The sun has influence on earth's climate?! Amazing!
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I wonder how much it cost to do the report. I could have told them that for nothing and I have no qualifications even remotely relevant to such a report.
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02/04/2013 11:40 AM
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This should be obvious to anyone aged 35+ the sun feels hotter and looks hotter for fucks sake its bright white not yellow anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290427


You should've gone to Specsavers, mate, looks the same here, apart from action from climate change via sunspots, fack all is changing.

Natural cycles.
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02/04/2013 11:46 AM
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^^^^ that's what ultimate libtard looks like. ^^^^
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Yes obviously, when in doubt and having no valid response, pull out the childish fallback nonsense!

The last defense of a weak mind.

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Jets screwing up the atmosphere is "Climate Culprit".
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opsDoes this mean that the sun has an effect on the earths climate?
Wild Weasels? You've got to be shitting me!
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Now I'm really taking those suntard threads more seriously.
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Al Gore will not be pleased.
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So, we have changes occurring outside the heliosphere, which effects the sun, which effects our climate. That is wild to think about, that changes outside our solr system eventually can effect our earth climate. Wonder what else we will discover. Possibly finding out changes within galactic center eventually change our climate.

Everything is connected.

Thread: CONSEQUENCES OF A CHANGE IN THE GALACTIC ENVIRONMENT OF THE SUN
CONSEQUENCES OF A CHANGE IN THE GALACTIC ENVIRONMENT OF THE SUN
G. P. ZANK
Bartol Research Institute, University of Delaware, Newark, DE 19716
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P. C. FRISCH1
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics, University of Chicago, IL 60637
Received 1998 November 12; accepted 1999 January 27

ABSTRACT

The interaction of the heliosphere with interstellar clouds has attracted interest since the late 1920s, with a view to explaining apparent both quasi-periodic climate "catastrophes" as well as periodic mass extinctions. Until recently, however, models describing the solar windÈlocal interstellar medium (LISM)interaction self-consistently had not been developed. Here we describe the results of a two-dimensional simulation of the interaction between the heliosphere and an interstellar cloud with the same properties as currently, except that the H0 density is increased from the present value of n(H0)D0.2 cm~3 to 10 cm~3. The mutual interaction of interstellar neutral hydrogen and plasma is included. The heliospheric cavity is reduced considerably in size (approximately 10È14 AU to the termination shock in the
upstream direction) and is highly dynamical. The interplanetary environment at the orbit of the Earth changes markedly, with the density of interstellar H0 increasing to D2 cm~3. The termination shock itself experiences periods where it disappears, reforms, and disappears again.
Considerable mixing of the shocked solar wind and LISM occurs because of Rayleigh-TaylorÈlike instabilities at the nose, driven by ion-neutral friction. Implications of two anomalously high concentrations of 10Be found in Antarctic ice cores, corresponding to 33,000 and 60,000 yr ago, and the absence of prior similar events are discussed in terms of density enhancements in the surrounding interstellar cloud. The calculation presented here supports past speculation that the Galactic environment of the Sun moderates the interplanetary
environment at the orbit of the Earth and possibly also the terrestrial climate.


:clouds_IBEX:

:clouds1_IBEX:

:helio_IBEX:

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The Galactic environment of the Sun is regulated by the properties of the interstellar cloud surrounding the solar system.

Over the past century, many conjectures have appeared in the scientiÐc literature linking encounters with dense interstellar clouds to possible climate changes on Earth.

For these suggestions to have substance, however, it must first be shown that the interplanetary environment of the Earth varies with changing properties of the surrounding interstellar cloud. It has been shown that in the past the Galactic environment of the Sun has changed as a function of time and that the cloud complex sweeping past the Sun now has an order of magnitude more like that of nearby interstellar gas in the upwind direction than that of the downwind direction (Frisch & York 1986; FR). Therefore the sensitivity of the heliosphere to variations in the boundary conditions imposed by the local interstellar medium (LISM)justify closer examination. It is the purpose of this paper to show that even a moderate alteration in the density of the cloud surrounding the solar system can yield substantial variations to the interplanetary environment in the inner heliosphere.


G. P. ZANK
Bartol Research Institute, University of Delaware, Newark, DE 19716
AND
P. C. FRISCH1
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics, University of Chicago, IL 60637
Received 1998 November 12; accepted 1999 January 27
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The sun is the earths primary source of heat, that doesn't discount other factors though, does it? Put a heat lamp in an enclosed space with a temp gauge. monitor the temp. Spray a little carbon dioxide in and watch what happens.

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(Fox News) The Earth has been getting warmer — but how much of that heat is due to greenhouse gas emissions and how much is due to natural causes?

A leaked report by a United Nations’ group dedicated to climate studies says that heat from the sun may play a larger role than previously thought.

“[Results] do suggest the possibility of a much larger impact of solar variations on the stratosphere than previously thought, and some studies have suggested that this may lead to significant regional impacts on climate,” reads a draft copy of a major, upcoming report from the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

The man who leaked the report, StopGreenSuicide blogger Alec Rawls, told FoxNews.com that the U.N.’s statements on solar activity were his main motivation for leaking the document.


[link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


It is easy to verify this by using the other planets in the solar system.....research how the inner planets are all heating up......not because of my "Ford Pinto", and for the first time we are seeing the arorer on Neptune.

aurora borealis on Neptune and Saturn Images only

[link to www.google.com (secure)]


What climate change is happening to other planets in the solar system?

[link to www.skepticalscience.com]


Pluto Is Undergoing Global Warming

[link to www.spacedaily.com]
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Because of a change outside our heliosphere is effecting the sun and other bodies within the heliosphere. Stronger magnetic forces, for one.

Thread: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!!
UPDATE

Jun 15, 2012
Data from NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft indicate that the venerable deep-space explorer has encountered a region in space where the intensity of charged particles from beyond our solar system has markedly increased. Voyager scientists looking at this rapid rise draw closer to an inevitable but historic conclusion - that humanity's first emissary to interstellar space is on the edge of our solar system.

"The latest data indicate that we are clearly in a new region where things are changing more quickly. It is very exciting. We are approaching the solar system's frontier."


This marked increase is one of a triad of data sets which need to make significant swings of the needle to indicate a new era in space exploration. The second important measure from the spacecraft's two telescopes is the intensity of energetic particles generated inside the heliosphere, the bubble of charged particles the Sun blows around itself.
[link to www.space-travel.com]

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IBEX’s novel imaging technique has unleashed one surprise after another. Now principal investigator David McComas (Southwest Research Institute) and 10 colleagues have turned IBEX's attention to the Sun's motion through space. It turns out that the Sun is moving through interstellar gas at 52,000 miles (84,000 km) per hour, about 12% slower than previously measured by the Ulysses spacecraft.

So what does the new model look like? IBEX's observations confirm that the Sun is still moving (albeit slowly) through the Local Interstellar Cloud, a fluff of higher density gas roughly 30 light-years across. Combined with a relatively strong interstellar magnetic field, the Sun's slower advance is no longer enough to push interstellar gas into a bow shock. At best, it makes a "bow wave," a region of slightly increased density — more like a fast-moving boat than a fighter jet. This means a significant change in how scientists think about the Sun and its interaction with the stuff beyond its influence.

"It's too early to say exactly what this new data means for our heliosphere. Decades of research have explored scenarios that included a bow shock. That research now has to be redone using the latest data," says McComas.

"Observations of a few astrospheres have shown bow shocks around those stars, but IBEX has shown that our star has a fundamentally different environment surrounding it," says Christina Prested (Boston University), an IBEX scientist not involved in the published study. "These results are very exciting as we can now definitively say what it's like in the neighborhood of our solar system."


[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]
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The sun is the earths primary source of heat, that doesn't discount other factors though, does it? Put a heat lamp in an enclosed space with a temp gauge. monitor the temp. Spray a little carbon dioxide in and watch what happens.
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This is interesting. Wonder where all that 'heat' is generated. My best guess, is electric currents.

Thread: Milky Way is Surrounded by Halo of Hot Gas
NASA's Chandra Shows Milky Way is Surrounded by Halo of Hot Gas

:milkywayhalo:

Astronomers have used NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory to find evidence our Milky Way Galaxy is embedded in an enormous halo of hot gas that extends for hundreds of thousands of light years. The estimated mass of the halo is comparable to the mass of all the stars in the galaxy.

If the size and mass of this gas halo is confirmed, it also could be an explanation for what is known as the "missing baryon" problem for the galaxy...

... Chandra observed eight bright X-ray sources located far beyond the galaxy at distances of hundreds of millions of light-years. The data revealed X-rays from these distant sources are absorbed selectively by oxygen ions in the vicinity of the galaxy.

The scientists determined the temperature of the absorbing halo is between 1 million and 2.5 million kelvins, or a few hundred times hotter than the surface of the sun...

...This new research provides evidence the hot gas halo enveloping the Milky Way is much more massive than the warm gas halo...

..."It may extend for a few hundred thousand light-years around the Milky Way or it may extend farther into the surrounding local group of galaxies. Either way, its mass appears to be very large."...

...Baryons are particles, such as protons and neutrons, which make up more than 99.9 percent of the mass of atoms found in the cosmos. Measurements of extremely distant gas halos and galaxies indicate the baryonic matter present when the universe was only a few billion years old represented about one-sixth the mass and density of the existing unobservable, or dark, matter.

[link to www.spacedaily.com]


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Let me ask you guys this! How hot is outer space without the greenhouse effect? Anyone?
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Of course, wake up people. The Sun, its conveyer belt and internal mechanics affects the entire solar system called the heliosphere.

Right now climate is being affected by the Sun. The ocean conveyer belts are being affected by melting arctic ice. And our human bioelectromagnetic field is being affected by all of the above (solar flares, CMEs, and things that are unseen or NASA is unable to see using current technology).
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Let me ask you guys this! How hot is outer space without the greenhouse effect? Anyone?
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Depends on where you are in outer space. Plasma regions can get incredibly hot.
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Re: LEAKED UN REPORT: Solar Activity is Climate Culprit
The sun is an intelligent hyper-dimensional portal, not a combustible mass.

Currently the oppressors have the upper hand due to their monetary and technological superiority. The monetary issue is being dealt with. And as for their technologies...they are all dependent on a set of fixed physical and astro-physical laws.

Those laws may soon change.
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Shut up and pay your carbon tax, slave!
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Wait a minute...

Are you trying to tell me the huge flaming ball of heat and hotness right next door is what causes the Earth to fluctuate in temperature???

This makes no sense.

I did not know that the huge flaming boll of heat and hotness also produced SUV's.

Kooky.


So I guess it will be mere moments before all governments begin repealing all of those bs CO2 limiting laws...
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Let me ask you guys this! How hot is outer space without the greenhouse effect? Anyone?
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Depends on where you are in outer space. Plasma regions can get incredibly hot.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


It's a trick question.

The plasma itself is incredibly hot.

Space itself is cold as f*ck.
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I know it was a trick question. chuckle That's why I said it depends on where you are.
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For all the commietards out there, big business is BEHIND this man-made global warming bunk.

None of the lobbying has been more telling than a statement issued by 259 investment organisations, controlling "collective assets totalling over $15 trillion" – including major banks, insurance companies and pension funds. These are the bodies calling most stridently for "government action on climate change", because they are the ones who hope to make vast sums of money out of it. They are desperate for a treaty of the type they failed to get at Copenhagen – even more so since the collapse of the US cap and trade bill – because they see their chance of turning global warming into the most lucrative fruit machine in history dwindling by the month.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Wow! Man, who would have thought of that?! The sun has influence on earth's climate?! Amazing!
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Thread: THIS IS IT ... The reason for all the extreme weather across the world, plus every other anomaly currently happening. (Page 15)

Way ahead of everyone.
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So let me get this straight. The LARGEST energy input source into the system actually plays a role in how warm (or cool) the system becomes… I am shocked! Shocked I tell you!

And we pay how much for this research?
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We should name this new amazing discovery. Since the sun has such an influence on everything lets call it a "Solar System".
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So once the Global warming con has been exposed for what it is ,one great big money making scam organised and dreamt up by the governments to extort money from the taxpayers to pay their exorbitant wages ,what next obviously they wont stop these taxes ,will they call them something else like the government backhander ,or tax for the sake of it wether you can afford it or not .hiding
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Wow! Man, who would have thought of that?! The sun has influence on earth's climate?! Amazing!
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