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uk bedroom tax,the road to riots

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/07/2013 10:40 AM
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This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
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True story. Imagine they started it with private housing?
Now that really would cause a riot.

To be honest though, any measure that makes it harder for the scroungers is a good measure in my book.
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02/07/2013 10:41 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
So basically people in public housing that have more rooms than needed will be forced to move or pay a tax for that room.

People are signing up for extra bedrooms and renting them out.
So this attempts to get that money.
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02/07/2013 10:41 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32459901


True story. Imagine they started it with private housing?
Now that really would cause a riot.

To be honest though, any measure that makes it harder for the scroungers is a good measure in my book.
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This.
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02/07/2013 10:42 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
I think this is basically just a tax to claw back some of the money from people they couldn't house in smaller accommodation; because it either wasn't available to house them at the time, or they lived under different circumstances at the time of the initial rent agreement.

CHAV TAX

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33792358


So, are we going to be paying their moving expenses every few years as family size changes? I get the feeling this makes no sense at all. It's probably just intended to keep communities transitory.
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

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Thats the impression i get, basically if a chav couple got a 4 bedroomed house because they had 6 kids 20 years ago they will be liable to pay for the extra space they now have since all their own kids left because they all got pregnant at 16 and got their own council houses!

I think the idea is cutting the benefits of people who live in council housing far beyond what they need. Why would a chav family need a 4 bedroom house if they only have 1 or 2 kids left at home.

Sounds like a means tested welfare cut. The only way to avoid it is move to a smaller council house.
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02/07/2013 10:43 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
what the hell is a bedroom tax?

the tardism is strong with the islanders.
yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33794302


It's not as drastic as OP is making out. Basically people in social housing, with more bedrooms than they use will be asked to pay up or relocate. They will be allowed to sublet the spare room to cover the tax if they choose to. I agree with OP's sentiment but this is not the spark we need.
 Quoting: NSF001


Socialism at its finest.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


I see what you did there. You saw the word social and turned it into socialism.

You don't even know what socialism is you stupid bastard.
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02/07/2013 10:45 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
It's not as drastic as OP is making out. Basically people in social housing, with more bedrooms than they use will be asked to pay up or relocate. They will be allowed to sublet the spare room to cover the tax if they choose to.
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Thats basically it.
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02/07/2013 10:45 AM
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What is "council housing"? Is that like section 8 in the U.S.?
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02/07/2013 10:45 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32459901


Get real. Yes those people exist but there will be thousands of families around the country that will face having to move out of the house which their children have grew up in due to them not being able to afford this 'tax'. How is that fair?

Interesting point about removing the bed... Surely slimy osbourne will have a work around for that.

I wonder where the real spark will come from?
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02/07/2013 10:47 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
What is "council housing"? Is that like section 8 in the U.S.?
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It's like the projects.
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02/07/2013 10:48 AM

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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32459901


True story. Imagine they started it with private housing?
Now that really would cause a riot.

To be honest though, any measure that makes it harder for the scroungers is a good measure in my book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33871821


Yea, I like this. Tax the handouts, I always say.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32459901


Get real. Yes those people exist but there will be thousands of families around the country that will face having to move out of the house which their children have grew up in due to them not being able to afford this 'tax'. How is that fair?

Interesting point about removing the bed... Surely slimy osbourne will have a work around for that.

I wonder where the real spark will come from?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2293376


At the end of the day, if your not prepared to work for it then why should the working people be expected to pander to your sensibilities.

The phrase 'beggars can't be choosers' springs to mind.
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
I think this is basically just a tax to claw back some of the money from people they couldn't house in smaller accommodation; because it either wasn't available to house them at the time, or they lived under different circumstances at the time of the initial rent agreement.

CHAV TAX

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33792358


So, are we going to be paying their moving expenses every few years as family size changes? I get the feeling this makes no sense at all. It's probably just intended to keep communities transitory.
 Quoting: The Lump Under the Carpet


If they don't need the space, they should move.
Who is John Galt?
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02/07/2013 10:51 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
I think this is basically just a tax to claw back some of the money from people they couldn't house in smaller accommodation; because it either wasn't available to house them at the time, or they lived under different circumstances at the time of the initial rent agreement.

CHAV TAX

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33792358


So, are we going to be paying their moving expenses every few years as family size changes? I get the feeling this makes no sense at all. It's probably just intended to keep communities transitory.
 Quoting: The Lump Under the Carpet


If they don't need the space, they should move.
 Quoting: Renegade (Me too)


You live in a transitory country. People move in and out of neighborhoods every year as their income and situation changes.

Personally I prefer to have the same neighbors and community from year to year, even if some of them are not meeting stringent regulations at the moment.
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32459901


Get real. Yes those people exist but there will be thousands of families around the country that will face having to move out of the house which their children have grew up in due to them not being able to afford this 'tax'. How is that fair?

Interesting point about removing the bed... Surely slimy osbourne will have a work around for that.

I wonder where the real spark will come from?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2293376


"Where their children grew up" - fuck that.
Free housing should not be based on sentimentality and emotions. Geeze!
Who is John Galt?
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02/07/2013 10:53 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
what the hell is a bedroom tax?

the tardism is strong with the islanders.
yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33794302


It's not as drastic as OP is making out. Basically people in social housing, with more bedrooms than they use will be asked to pay up or relocate. They will be allowed to sublet the spare room to cover the tax if they choose to. I agree with OP's sentiment but this is not the spark we need.
 Quoting: NSF001


thanks for clarification. sounds pretty legit to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33794302


True, after all its us taxxpayers that are subsidising their housing. There is a case of a family who have left their daughters bedroom exactly as it was after she passed due to cancer i believe, i think it has been that way for a few years.

Old woman up the road from me, lives in a 3 bedroom house, social housing, yet we have families in temp accomodation sharing 2 rooms, how is that fair ?

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What is "council housing"? Is that like section 8 in the U.S.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23554071


Not sure what section 8 is...

Basically the local government owns the houses and rents them out.

Depending on the location they can be rented out to people who pay their own way by working etc, but they are often rented to people who dont pay anything because welfare pays for it.
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32459901


You know how it works:-

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
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02/07/2013 10:57 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32459901


Get real. Yes those people exist but there will be thousands of families around the country that will face having to move out of the house which their children have grew up in due to them not being able to afford this 'tax'. How is that fair?

Interesting point about removing the bed... Surely slimy osbourne will have a work around for that.

I wonder where the real spark will come from?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2293376


U MAD BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO TAKE A DOLE CUT OR PAY FOR THAT EXTRA SPACE YOU HAVE?

cruise
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02/07/2013 10:57 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32459901


True story. Imagine they started it with private housing?
Now that really would cause a riot.

To be honest though, any measure that makes it harder for the scroungers is a good measure in my book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33871821


its the first step to exactly that.
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02/07/2013 10:58 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
They're gonna need the rooms to house all the foreigners due to flood in next year!
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02/07/2013 10:59 AM
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"Where their children grew up" - fuck that.
Free housing should not be based on sentimentality and emotions. Geeze!
 Quoting: Renegade (Me too)


You cant argue with these retards and the problem is these idealists make up a large majority of the country.

I don't know what the fuck they think is going to happen when the money all stops because all these socialists are living well beyond their means.

The retards will probably riot and burn down their own fucking communities demanding the government do something.
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02/07/2013 11:00 AM
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They're gonna need the rooms to house all the foreigners due to flood in next year!
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LOL.

Adopt a Romanian/Bulgarian?

cruise
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02/07/2013 11:01 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32459901


True story. Imagine they started it with private housing?
Now that really would cause a riot.

To be honest though, any measure that makes it harder for the scroungers is a good measure in my book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33871821


its the first step to exactly that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22296905


The day they try to tax me for the extra bedrooms in the house that I have bought with my own money.........

I won't be happy
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02/07/2013 11:02 AM
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
They're gonna need the rooms to house all the foreigners due to flood in next year!
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Shits going to be fucking hilarious when Romanian criminals become lodgers and peoples houses get raided by the police for drugs and the landlord gets in just as much shit.

All the while the liberals will be talking about how it must be the poverty, and that the landlord must have known they were doing it!

cruise
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32459901


True story. Imagine they started it with private housing?
Now that really would cause a riot.

To be honest though, any measure that makes it harder for the scroungers is a good measure in my book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33871821


its the first step to exactly that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22296905


Why do you think that, i'm paying for my house not the state. Years ago i was renting private in a shared house, as i was studying and had paid tax etc, the government gave me and a friend housing benefit, they only paid for the 2 rooms we shared, we were living in a 3 bedroom house, we had to find the extra to make up the rent. it's not as bad as its being made out as its been done for years, its only those who've generally never paid up in arms
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
Simple fix.. knock the walls out of every spare room in the house, replace the doors with archways and or extend the common rooms around it.

If you're really cleaver you could apply for a government energy/infrastructure grant to pay for the renovations.. peace
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02/07/2013 11:05 AM
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Reminder for the newly socialised USSA what real tax riots look like! Brit cops don't have guns - so you CAN punch them!


WAAAANNNKKEEEEEEEEEERRS! lol!
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Re: uk bedroom tax,the road to riots
If you take money from the government they are allowed to set the conditions. The solution isn't riots, it's individual responsibility.

For too long the left wing was in charge, and they did what leftists always do, the same things they are doing in the US now. They encumbered businesses with idiotic regulations, and scorn and punish success.

Now businesses have abandoned your shores in droves, high-value earners have chased their jobs to Singapore and Hong Kong, and vast swathes of your people are soft and dependent, with an expectation of a government-guaranteed lifestyle that far outstrips the value they generate to society and, therefore, the taxes they pay.

Unfortunately, your government is now bankrupt. There's no more money for them to use to buy the bread and circuses they entertained you with while they were destroying your economy. So now, much too late, the reality of the result of more than a decade of Labour Government rule is setting in.

It's not pleasant to watch as more and more Brits (and Euros in general) awaken from the specious dream of socialism to the cold light of morning in the real world. However, awaken you must, and there's nobody you can attack or riot in front of who can help you reclaim the dream, since it was never real in the first place. You will only succeed in damaging your own neighborhoods, and divert government money away from your problems and into law enforcement and damage control.

If anything good could possibly come of this, it is that the next generation of Brits will come to more closely resemble the gritty heroes of the WWII generation. It's unbelievable that the same nation that stared down the Nazis with iron will, indomitable spirit, and almost superhuman sacrifice, sired a generation of weak-willed pussies who make no connection between contribution to society and their own lives and livelihood.

Hopefully, Americans begin to see our future in your present, and work to rid ourselves of the yoke of dependency on government that too many have been voting for and demanding of late. That would be cold comfort to you, but a great boon to us.

I can only hope it isn't too late for us to avoid the same fate. But, I'm not sure.

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." - Gerald Ford
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Reminder for the newly socialised USSA what real tax riots look like!

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The good old days.... whatever did happen to that spirit and backbone

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