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uk bedroom tax,the road to riots

 
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02/07/2013 11:07 AM
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Simple fix.. knock the walls out of every spare room in the house, replace the doors with archways and or extend the common rooms around it.

If you're really cleaver you could apply for a government energy/infrastructure grant to pay for the renovations.. peace
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Yeah I'm sure the landlord would be really happy about that.
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02/07/2013 11:08 AM
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I think this is basically just a tax to claw back some of the money from people they couldn't house in smaller accommodation; because it either wasn't available to house them at the time, or they lived under different circumstances at the time of the initial rent agreement.

CHAV TAX

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So, are we going to be paying their moving expenses every few years as family size changes? I get the feeling this makes no sense at all. It's probably just intended to keep communities transitory.
 Quoting: The Lump Under the Carpet


If they don't need the space, they should move.
 Quoting: Renegade (Me too)


You miss the point, THEY THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THE EXTRA SPACE WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT!

All the while some 50 year old guy down the street who has been running his family owned 200 year old business is working his ass off to the bone paying for somebody half a mile away to sit in a 4 or 5 bedroom home plopping out half a dozen kids and never having a job or an interest in creating a job.

UNSUSTAINABLE! and if it continues it will erupt into all these entitled morons rioting and burning down their own neighborhoods.
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02/07/2013 11:10 AM
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This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32459901


True story. Imagine they started it with private housing?
Now that really would cause a riot.

To be honest though, any measure that makes it harder for the scroungers is a good measure in my book.
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its the first step to exactly that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22296905


The day they try to tax me for the extra bedrooms in the house that I have bought with my own money.........

I won't be happy
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Thats a different kettle of fish though, you own it.
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02/07/2013 11:11 AM
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True story. Imagine they started it with private housing?
Now that really would cause a riot.

To be honest though, any measure that makes it harder for the scroungers is a good measure in my book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33871821


its the first step to exactly that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22296905


The day they try to tax me for the extra bedrooms in the house that I have bought with my own money.........

I won't be happy
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Thats a different kettle of fish though, you own it.
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That's pretty much what Council Tax is anyway...
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02/07/2013 11:13 AM

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Hey, US should be paying attention. If this will work for UK, then what may possibly happen to the illegal - soon to be legal immigrants that keep coming to the US? Where they going to live?
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02/07/2013 11:15 AM
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Part of the New world Order to destroy borders and force multiculturalism on the population! Thousands of Bulgarians and Romanians will be arriving in January next year, they're all gonna need somewhere to stay!
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its the first step to exactly that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22296905


The day they try to tax me for the extra bedrooms in the house that I have bought with my own money.........

I won't be happy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33871821


Thats a different kettle of fish though, you own it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33792358


That's pretty much what Council Tax is anyway...
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Yes and wasnt it in the news recently that all those currently exempt from council tax or eligible for discounted council tax will have to start paying up from april? Welcome news if true
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its the first step to exactly that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22296905


The day they try to tax me for the extra bedrooms in the house that I have bought with my own money.........

I won't be happy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33871821


Thats a different kettle of fish though, you own it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33792358


That's pretty much what Council Tax is anyway...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310




Yes and wasnt it in the news recently that all those currently exempt from council tax or eligible for discounted council tax will have to start paying up from april? Welcome news if true
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02/07/2013 11:18 AM
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Why all the smugness from Americans?

Have you looked around you lately?
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no kidding.

We need to band together, you brits and us yanks. And we need to present a united front.... because everything that is happening to you will happen to us and everything that is happening to us is/has already happened to you.

They don't want us sympathizing with each other.

THEY are trying to crush us both.
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02/07/2013 11:18 AM
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This only affects benefit spongers anyway.

WGAS
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You know how it works:-

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5118400


Terrible attempt at leftist guilt propaganda.

Fact of the matter is we have a completely unsustainable social system in this country that needs massive fucking reform, because if it isn't reformed the money it costs will cause a financial collapse.

Within a few decades the majority of this country is going to be the older generation, who the fuck pays for them?

The NHS, the police, local government, pensions everything in this country needs a reform, because it has got so bad with spending..... and nobody in power is admitting the money just wont exist to pay for all this soon. Not one of the politicians will take responsibility...

What they will do is what the US is doing which is print money like crazy, which will eventually lead to loss of confidence and probably hyperinflation.

I want the system to work, but that doesn't mean it is working.

Dark times are ahead in our lifetimes, and those that stop denying it will be better off when it comes...
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02/07/2013 11:20 AM
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YOU LOT ARE TRULY FUCKING DUMB , bedroom tax is for the old white folk who live in a house , they are basically for4cing them to move so they can have the houses for immigrants


ARRRRRREEEEE YYOOOOUUUUUU FUUUUUUCCCKKKIINNNNG BLLLIIINNNNND !!
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its the first step to exactly that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22296905


The day they try to tax me for the extra bedrooms in the house that I have bought with my own money.........

I won't be happy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33871821


Thats a different kettle of fish though, you own it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33792358


That's pretty much what Council Tax is anyway...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310


True but under the system the council are still responsible for the drains, waste disposal and other facilities in your local environment.
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02/07/2013 11:22 AM
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YOU LOT ARE TRULY FUCKING DUMB , bedroom tax is for the old white folk who live in a house , they are basically for4cing them to move so they can have the houses for immigrants


ARRRRRREEEEE YYOOOOUUUUUU FUUUUUUCCCKKKIINNNNG BLLLIIINNNNND !!
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It's a brilliant idea in my street I'm surrounded by little old ladies that live in big four bedroom houses they all need to get the fuck out and let young families have a place to live.
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If you take money from the government they are allowed to set the conditions. The solution isn't riots, it's individual responsibility.

For too long the left wing was in charge, and they did what leftists always do, the same things they are doing in the US now. They encumbered businesses with idiotic regulations, and scorn and punish success.

Now businesses have abandoned your shores in droves, high-value earners have chased their jobs to Singapore and Hong Kong, and vast swathes of your people are soft and dependent, with an expectation of a government-guaranteed lifestyle that far outstrips the value they generate to society and, therefore, the taxes they pay.

Unfortunately, your government is now bankrupt. There's no more money for them to use to buy the bread and circuses they entertained you with while they were destroying your economy. So now, much too late, the reality of the result of more than a decade of Labour Government rule is setting in.

It's not pleasant to watch as more and more Brits (and Euros in general) awaken from the specious dream of socialism to the cold light of morning in the real world. However, awaken you must, and there's nobody you can attack or riot in front of who can help you reclaim the dream, since it was never real in the first place. You will only succeed in damaging your own neighborhoods, and divert government money away from your problems and into law enforcement and damage control.

If anything good could possibly come of this, it is that the next generation of Brits will come to more closely resemble the gritty heroes of the WWII generation. It's unbelievable that the same nation that stared down the Nazis with iron will, indomitable spirit, and almost superhuman sacrifice, sired a generation of weak-willed pussies who make no connection between contribution to society and their own lives and livelihood.

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02/07/2013 11:25 AM
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Reminder for the newly socialised USSA what real tax riots look like!

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The good old days.... whatever did happen to that spirit and backbone
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islamists chased it away?
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YOU LOT ARE TRULY FUCKING DUMB , bedroom tax is for the old white folk who live in a house , they are basically for4cing them to move so they can have the houses for immigrants


ARRRRRREEEEE YYOOOOUUUUUU FUUUUUUCCCKKKIINNNNG BLLLIIINNNNND !!
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It's a brilliant idea in my street I'm surrounded by little old ladies that live in big four bedroom houses they all need to get the fuck out and let young families have a place to live.
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Reminder for the newly socialised USSA what real tax riots look like!

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The good old days.... whatever did happen to that spirit and backbone
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islamists chased it away?
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No, the state started paying for more shit. Ironically the Poll tax would have been a fairer tax than what we have now.
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02/07/2013 11:27 AM
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It's not as drastic as OP is making out. Basically people in social housing, with more bedrooms than they use will be asked to pay up or relocate. They will be allowed to sublet the spare room to cover the tax if they choose to. I agree with OP's sentiment but this is not the spark we need.
 Quoting: NSF001


They won't be "asked" to pay, they'll be told.
And they'll be "allowed" to sublet.

Geezuz, being a subject must be nauseating.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


Bear in mind this only applies to government subsidised housing.
 Quoting: NSF001



I get that now..its about time the leeches feel the pinch.




You own your house you can have ten spare bedrooms if you like. Imagine it was across the board though, think of the bill for Buckingham palace


You know as well as I if it were, they would find a way to exempt themselves, just like all politicians do.
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Simple fix.. knock the walls out of every spare room in the house, replace the doors with archways and or extend the common rooms around it.

If you're really cleaver you could apply for a government energy/infrastructure grant to pay for the renovations.. peace
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They can't do that. They don't own the houses. They're subsidized renters.
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i'm not on benefit and don't live in social housing ..

i don't care.
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Reminder for the newly socialised USSA what real tax riots look like!

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The good old days.... whatever did happen to that spirit and backbone
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33871821


islamists chased it away?
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yeah blame it on the 'islamists' poor fuckers get blamed for everything else
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i'm not on benefit and don't live in social housing ..

i don't care.
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Ditto
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02/07/2013 11:29 AM
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what the hell is a bedroom tax?

the tardism is strong with the islanders.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33794302


It's not as drastic as OP is making out. Basically people in social housing, with more bedrooms than they use will be asked to pay up or relocate. They will be allowed to sublet the spare room to cover the tax if they choose to. I agree with OP's sentiment but this is not the spark we need.
 Quoting: NSF001


That makes sense. If one person only needs one bedroom and has more then they can move to a one bedroom and open up the lodging to a family. Or they can stay and pay a tax. Looks like the government needs to make room for people who do need the extra rooms. And the only way to do this is to get people to make room by taxing them.
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YOU LOT ARE TRULY FUCKING DUMB , bedroom tax is for the old white folk who live in a house , they are basically for4cing them to move so they can have the houses for immigrants


ARRRRRREEEEE YYOOOOUUUUUU FUUUUUUCCCKKKIINNNNG BLLLIIINNNNND !!
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Probably. However, what you need to do is ask yourself a question.

How the fuck is a 70 year old person still living in a council house?

What the hell did they do with their lives for 50 odd years that meant they had nothing to show for it?

My grandparents and parents got fucking jobs and bought houses.

The immigrants are not really the problem, they are a symptom of a unsustainable culture of socialist entitlement.

They come here because we give everything away for free.

The difference in the past was the family supported everything, now the government supports everything, and the government wont say no so long as they can print money and influence votes.

Family wont give drug addict and aloholic money until they make the rest of the family homeless, but the government will just pay out for welfare programs until the money starts running out.
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what are you candy ass tards going to riot with ? hah your riots ain't worth shit
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with our pudgy feets
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It's not as drastic as OP is making out. Basically people in social housing, with more bedrooms than they use will be asked to pay up or relocate. They will be allowed to sublet the spare room to cover the tax if they choose to. I agree with OP's sentiment but this is not the spark we need.
 Quoting: NSF001


They won't be "asked" to pay, they'll be told.
And they'll be "allowed" to sublet.

Geezuz, being a subject must be nauseating.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


Bear in mind this only applies to government subsidised housing. You own your house you can have ten spare bedrooms if you like. Imagine it was across the board though, think of the bill for Buckingham palace
 Quoting: NSF001


Exactly. There really is no problem. If you are going to take from the government then the government should be able to tell you what to do. People in government housing should be thankful they even have a roof over their heads. Or if they aren't then they could live in a shelter or on the streets.
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You guys think its hard now, SHEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIT.

If im right this is only the start. The next 20 years will make the great depression and WW2 look like a fucking walk in the park.

All i can fucking suggest is get your shit in order start growing your own food and invest in something like precious metals to hedge your wealth, and keep that shit on the fucking quiet, dont even tell anybody you dont trust 100% because even family will turn on you when their own kids start starving.

Stay the fuck out of politics because you will just make yourself a target for the other side.

When it gets really bad, blend the fuck in and walk around, que for food like everybody else is handouts and just dont bring attention to yourself.
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The bedroom tax is nothing compared to benefit reforms, people will be dying from disease caused by malnutrition and poor hygeine because of the price of gas rocketing, some dirty fat cats need dragging from their holes and slicing, thats why we keep em aint it?....for in times of need sacrifice a fat cat and share to all, they are kind of like a bank for the working class, come on rise up and pick one while they're ripe and juicy, there's more than enough to go around
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what the hell is a bedroom tax?

the tardism is strong with the islanders.
yoda
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lmao

That's das Inselbewohner to you.
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what the hell is a bedroom tax?

the tardism is strong with the islanders.
yoda
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lmao

That's das Inselbewohner to you.

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