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| Jack User ID: 32228659 02/07/2013 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its about time they got all those unemployed leeching mothers that spit out babies to pay BACK the benefits they've taken. I know one with 4 kids from 3 fathers and she made sure she always had herself lined up for every benefit going. Its not smart or clever, its ruined the UK and driven up taces for everyone else. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23956419 02/07/2013 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys think its hard now, SHEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIT. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33792358 If im right this is only the start. The next 20 years will make the great depression and WW2 look like a fucking walk in the park. All i can fucking suggest is get your shit in order start growing your own food and invest in something like precious metals to hedge your wealth, and keep that shit on the fucking quiet, dont even tell anybody you dont trust 100% because even family will turn on you when their own kids start starving. Stay the fuck out of politics because you will just make yourself a target for the other side. When it gets really bad, blend the fuck in and walk around, que for food like everybody else is handouts and just dont bring attention to yourself. damn! if you are right then that land my dad bought in kashmir back in the eighties when he could have gotten 4 houses here, may just turn out to be the best investment he ever made. God bless you dad!!! I think this may well spread around the west, so if you have land in a country that was already poor it may be better adapted to the change. People here are not going to understand what is going on when they start starving and are going to blame somebody. that could be the government, it could be the police, it could be corporations, it could be neighbors who have more than what they have. Fact is the last person they will blame is themselves. Some people will die in denial. best to start planning now cause lets face it, its no longer a question of if but when the shit will hit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 02/07/2013 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys think its hard now, SHEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIT. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33792358 If im right this is only the start. The next 20 years will make the great depression and WW2 look like a fucking walk in the park. All i can fucking suggest is get your shit in order start growing your own food and invest in something like precious metals to hedge your wealth, and keep that shit on the fucking quiet, dont even tell anybody you dont trust 100% because even family will turn on you when their own kids start starving. Stay the fuck out of politics because you will just make yourself a target for the other side. When it gets really bad, blend the fuck in and walk around, que for food like everybody else is handouts and just dont bring attention to yourself. I would also add that if you want to blend in you better look thin because if you don't people will start wondering and following you home. Might want to dress in clothes that are not too nice and even baggy. But try to help those you can. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 02/07/2013 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Professor Xavier They won't be "asked" to pay, they'll be told. And they'll be "allowed" to sublet. Geezuz, being a subject must be nauseating. Bear in mind this only applies to government subsidised housing. You own your house you can have ten spare bedrooms if you like. Imagine it was across the board though, think of the bill for Buckingham palace Exactly. There really is no problem. If you are going to take from the government then the government should be able to tell you what to do. People in government housing should be thankful they even have a roof over their heads. Or if they aren't then they could live in a shelter or on the streets. maybe that is where the next riot will come from. from the disenfranchised scroungers who feel that after years of free living, now are having the rug swept out from under their feet, and they will be pissed!!!!! I am sure the government is preparing for that as well. The massive handouts to people who really don't need it has got to stop. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33874624 02/07/2013 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU LOT ARE TRULY FUCKING DUMB , bedroom tax is for the old white folk who live in a house , they are basically for4cing them to move so they can have the houses for immigrants Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33808766 ARRRRRREEEEE YYOOOOUUUUUU FUUUUUUCCCKKKIINNNNG BLLLIIINNNNND !! Probably. However, what you need to do is ask yourself a question. How the fuck is a 70 year old person still living in a council house? What the hell did they do with their lives for 50 odd years that meant they had nothing to show for it? My grandparents and parents got fucking jobs and bought houses. The immigrants are not really the problem, they are a symptom of a unsustainable culture of socialist entitlement. They come here because we give everything away for free. The difference in the past was the family supported everything, now the government supports everything, and the government wont say no so long as they can print money and influence votes. Family wont give drug addict and aloholic money until they make the rest of the family homeless, but the government will just pay out for welfare programs until the money starts running out. They worked for peanuts, sweeping your roads, cleaning public toilets. People who live in council houses more often than not, work for nothing. Minimum wage or should I call it maximun wage? This is why they can never save or move on, pay a decent wage to ALL workers and perhaps they would be able to buy their own property. Pay them £200 per week and what do you expect? Bankers and politicians fucked this country and now they want to blame someone. Who better than people who cannot defend themselves? All workers working for minimum wage are basically working for the equivalent in benefits. They are working, but in reality they are on the dole, they just don't know it. If all cleaners and retail workers etc etc stopped working the country would grind to a halt, so why is it these people are treated so badly, paid peanuts and called scroungers. People need to open their eyes. Anyone agreeing that the poor should be made to suffer further are just ugly, greedy, selfish and probably lonely people. What about the bankers who lie, cheat and steal. Or MP's that lie cheat and steal? Tax avoidence etc. £20,000 lunches for politicians etc. As for Cameroon and his bunch what qualitifcations or real jobs have they ever had? Are they self made millionaires or did they inherit? (same as receiving benefits in my book). This attack on the poor is going to hit hard working (minimum wage earners)young families and families with same sex children very hard. And you people think it is fair? And Right? SHAME ON YOU ALL. I hope you are financially secure and your business never fails or you lose everything through a messy divorce!! Don't kick these people while they are down. Have a heart. And no you are not paying for them, you are paying for bankers mistakes and the lavish lifesytles of the MP's etc. |
| Flora User ID: 31678192 02/07/2013 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Housing benefit is the government's biggest single financial headache. They're getting creative about clawing some of it back, and yet they're missing the obvious solution. Housing benefit has escalated because most people in rented accommodation get it from private landlords, and the rents have rocketed. They should tax the buy-to-letters and get the money back from them! |
| lupa14714 User ID: 23350068 02/07/2013 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically people in public housing that have more rooms than needed will be forced to move or pay a tax for that room. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337 People are signing up for extra bedrooms and renting them out. So this attempts to get that money. only if you have a child that needs a bedroom,then grows up,leaves.one spare room.everyone i've heard talking know this is leading to enforced homeless being allotted a room in your home wether you like it or not.what could possibly go wrong. church of euthanasia. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33874624 02/07/2013 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its about time they got all those unemployed leeching mothers that spit out babies to pay BACK the benefits they've taken. I know one with 4 kids from 3 fathers and she made sure she always had herself lined up for every benefit going. Its not smart or clever, its ruined the UK and driven up taces for everyone else. Quoting: Jack 32228659 Really, do you really believe that sheeple statement you have just made? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33792358 02/07/2013 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but that is exactly the problem now with this dependency culture that has emanated. i am sure that social housing was originally conceptualised for the exact purpose that you outlined. however, now, it is not being used any more as a last resort, for when hard times may befall. rather, it is increasingly viewed as a lifestyle choice. the problem is further exascerbated by wholesale immigration, but let us not forget that this culture of entitlement exists today within our society. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23956419 Exactly. Instead of being a stepping stone its become a stairlift and parts of society have atrophied so much they are unable even to climb at all, yet all the while they are in denial anything is even wrong. Its gotten so bad the rest of society is now picking them up and struggling to put them on the stairlift in the first place. and the sycophantic politicians have pandered to the entitled and ignored the problem as it has grown and grown. Eventually the credit and housing bubble got so fucking big in the US it caused the financial crisis that is still affecting everything now. I honestly think it is already over, all they are doing now is extending the time it takes for this to happen and probably making it worse. There is going to be money in the streets worth nothing, families killing each other for food and soldiers shooting looters. We created a society based on the illusion that everybody is entitled to a house a car and a big screen TV, even those that are not prepared to earn it, we have created a society built on the illusion that perpetual growth is possible and that it wont eventually stabilize at some point. People sit and watch TV hoping to become the next superstar singer or sports player, instead of spending time learning a skill and starting a business. This is all our fault for enabling this shit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 02/07/2013 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, US should be paying attention. If this will work for UK, then what may possibly happen to the illegal - soon to be legal immigrants that keep coming to the US? Where they going to live? Quoting: Indysmindy They already do that in the US. If you are in government housing and your income goes up, you get kicked out. If the number of people in your home changes, you have to move to a different unit that year, if not sooner. Like I said, a transitory people. No real community. Well, you make community and friends where you are. And if you have to move you make it there. I have moved a lot by choice and always make friends where I am. Community can form pretty fast. It doesn't take years to form. You just have to be flexible. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33792358 02/07/2013 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | best to start planning now cause lets face it, its no longer a question of if but when the shit will hit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23956419 I'm working on that assumption now. I dont totally blame the government though, they are just as scared if not more scared than i am..I guess they are worried because deep down they are the ones who will pick up the blame first. |
| Jack User ID: 32228659 02/07/2013 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its about time they got all those unemployed leeching mothers that spit out babies to pay BACK the benefits they've taken. I know one with 4 kids from 3 fathers and she made sure she always had herself lined up for every benefit going. Its not smart or clever, its ruined the UK and driven up taces for everyone else. Quoting: Jack 32228659 Really, do you really believe that sheeple statement you have just made? Oh yes, I'm sick of paying for fat overfed unemployed spongers. The working population are! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 02/07/2013 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, that's what's taught in the US. Nuclear family and all. Standing by yourself does not actually create stability. Every man will eventually break or stumble at some point during his journey through life. Without support he will fall. One man alone is not stable. Then that man can go live with family or get room mates. Or he can get a job and make some stability for himself. If you get something for free or almost free at taxpayers expense then you need to be ready to make changes. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30075865 02/07/2013 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why all the smugness from Americans? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310 Have you looked around you lately? I watched "The Last Enemy" on Masterpiece Theater, great mini series, wonderful actors (all British by the way)! I feel for you guys over there, it's global though - the common people need take back the reins from corrupt politicians...... [youtube]<iframe width="420" height="315" src=" [link to www.youtube.com] frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23956419 02/07/2013 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU LOT ARE TRULY FUCKING DUMB , bedroom tax is for the old white folk who live in a house , they are basically for4cing them to move so they can have the houses for immigrants Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33808766 ARRRRRREEEEE YYOOOOUUUUUU FUUUUUUCCCKKKIINNNNG BLLLIIINNNNND !! Probably. However, what you need to do is ask yourself a question. How the fuck is a 70 year old person still living in a council house? What the hell did they do with their lives for 50 odd years that meant they had nothing to show for it? My grandparents and parents got fucking jobs and bought houses. The immigrants are not really the problem, they are a symptom of a unsustainable culture of socialist entitlement. They come here because we give everything away for free. The difference in the past was the family supported everything, now the government supports everything, and the government wont say no so long as they can print money and influence votes. Family wont give drug addict and aloholic money until they make the rest of the family homeless, but the government will just pay out for welfare programs until the money starts running out. They worked for peanuts, sweeping your roads, cleaning public toilets. People who live in council houses more often than not, work for nothing. Minimum wage or should I call it maximun wage? This is why they can never save or move on, pay a decent wage to ALL workers and perhaps they would be able to buy their own property. Pay them £200 per week and what do you expect? Bankers and politicians fucked this country and now they want to blame someone. Who better than people who cannot defend themselves? All workers working for minimum wage are basically working for the equivalent in benefits. They are working, but in reality they are on the dole, they just don't know it. If all cleaners and retail workers etc etc stopped working the country would grind to a halt, so why is it these people are treated so badly, paid peanuts and called scroungers. People need to open their eyes. Anyone agreeing that the poor should be made to suffer further are just ugly, greedy, selfish and probably lonely people. What about the bankers who lie, cheat and steal. Or MP's that lie cheat and steal? Tax avoidence etc. £20,000 lunches for politicians etc. As for Cameroon and his bunch what qualitifcations or real jobs have they ever had? Are they self made millionaires or did they inherit? (same as receiving benefits in my book). This attack on the poor is going to hit hard working (minimum wage earners)young families and families with same sex children very hard. And you people think it is fair? And Right? SHAME ON YOU ALL. I hope you are financially secure and your business never fails or you lose everything through a messy divorce!! Don't kick these people while they are down. Have a heart. And no you are not paying for them, you are paying for bankers mistakes and the lavish lifesytles of the MP's etc. yes but the social system should not be a lifestyle choice as many have now made it, it should only be for those bad times. so hopefully, once the benefits start drying up, it will kick their lazy asses in to gear. and for the young girls(kids) having more kids, maybe it will discourage this sort of beahoviour. its all just too comfortable at the moment and that has to change. |
| The Lump Under the Carpet Because humans are like that User ID: 33259289 02/07/2013 12:13 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, US should be paying attention. If this will work for UK, then what may possibly happen to the illegal - soon to be legal immigrants that keep coming to the US? Where they going to live? Quoting: Indysmindy They already do that in the US. If you are in government housing and your income goes up, you get kicked out. If the number of people in your home changes, you have to move to a different unit that year, if not sooner. Like I said, a transitory people. No real community. Well, you make community and friends where you are. And if you have to move you make it there. I have moved a lot by choice and always make friends where I am. Community can form pretty fast. It doesn't take years to form. You just have to be flexible. Good for you. Always be adaptable and flexible for your country and employer. You are very well trained and proud of it too. Good for you and your personal sacrifice and the transitory nature of your life. Congrats. We are very proud of you for your ability to let go of close personal bonds and community at the drop of a hat with no silly emotions. You are truly a well oiled cog within a pristine system. May you never become rusty and may you go to cog heaven when you become unusable. Last Edited by The Loophole on 02/07/2013 12:16 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 02/07/2013 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its about time they got all those unemployed leeching mothers that spit out babies to pay BACK the benefits they've taken. I know one with 4 kids from 3 fathers and she made sure she always had herself lined up for every benefit going. Its not smart or clever, its ruined the UK and driven up taces for everyone else. Quoting: Jack 32228659 And that is her job. Stealing from taxpayers. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31817692 02/07/2013 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU LOT ARE TRULY FUCKING DUMB , bedroom tax is for the old white folk who live in a house , they are basically for4cing them to move so they can have the houses for immigrants Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33808766 ARRRRRREEEEE YYOOOOUUUUUU FUUUUUUCCCKKKIINNNNG BLLLIIINNNNND !! Probably. However, what you need to do is ask yourself a question. How the fuck is a 70 year old person still living in a council house? What the hell did they do with their lives for 50 odd years that meant they had nothing to show for it? My grandparents and parents got fucking jobs and bought houses. The immigrants are not really the problem, they are a symptom of a unsustainable culture of socialist entitlement. They come here because we give everything away for free. The difference in the past was the family supported everything, now the government supports everything, and the government wont say no so long as they can print money and influence votes. Family wont give drug addict and aloholic money until they make the rest of the family homeless, but the government will just pay out for welfare programs until the money starts running out. AHH I knew I'd find a sophistikat spouting her dribble somewhere soon |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33792358 02/07/2013 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its about time they got all those unemployed leeching mothers that spit out babies to pay BACK the benefits they've taken. I know one with 4 kids from 3 fathers and she made sure she always had herself lined up for every benefit going. Its not smart or clever, its ruined the UK and driven up taces for everyone else. Quoting: Jack 32228659 They wont pay back, those types will be the first ones in the street looting. If the collapse happens, these people will be out with knives and metal bars and molotovs beating the life out of people who they blame and later stealing from those who have what they dont. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 02/07/2013 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, US should be paying attention. If this will work for UK, then what may possibly happen to the illegal - soon to be legal immigrants that keep coming to the US? Where they going to live? Quoting: Indysmindy They already do that in the US. If you are in government housing and your income goes up, you get kicked out. If the number of people in your home changes, you have to move to a different unit that year, if not sooner. Like I said, a transitory people. No real community. Well, you make community and friends where you are. And if you have to move you make it there. I have moved a lot by choice and always make friends where I am. Community can form pretty fast. It doesn't take years to form. You just have to be flexible. Good for you. Always be adaptable and flexible for your country and employer. You are very well trained and proud of it too. Good for you and your personal sacrifice and the transitory nature of your life. Congrats. Listen, I pay my own way and when I can't afford where I live or need a bigger/smaller place I leave and find one. Others should do the same especially when I am footing their bill. What part of this don't you get? I am suppose to pay for a stable life for someone who has too many rooms to live in and who won't work? Or who makes a job out of scamming me? You go ahead and give you paychecks to some family so they can sit on their asses and have tons of kids and not work or not even try to find work while you work your fingers to the bone for them. And then you may see things differently! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16629746 02/07/2013 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its about time they got all those unemployed leeching mothers that spit out babies to pay BACK the benefits they've taken. I know one with 4 kids from 3 fathers and she made sure she always had herself lined up for every benefit going. Its not smart or clever, its ruined the UK and driven up taces for everyone else. Quoting: Jack 32228659 You're a dick if you think people on benefits are responsible for the economic crisis we're in.......what's that?...i think i can hear ya momma shouting you.....better run along now sonny and let the men talk politics. A little bedtime story for ya, there was a big ball, a medium ball and a small ball in a room, and the big ball whispers to the medium ball that the small ball is taking up too much room, so the medium ball destroys the small ball.......so now who is the small ball? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23956419 02/07/2013 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucky im not in council housing and even luckier I got land in kashmir. Im moving there sooner rather than later. What a shithole the uk truly has become Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33871821 land in kashmir? as a foreigner? i love kashmir, esp. pahalgam. take me with you! i was over there last year. they got a lot of chinese investment. a new road linking directly. they have invested in bridges, roads, even a shopping precint. i tell you, its like america 100 years ago. all the infrastructure is in place and i can only see more of the same in that particular region. |
| The Lump Under the Carpet Because humans are like that User ID: 33259289 02/07/2013 12:21 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Listen, I pay my own way and when I can't afford where I live or need a bigger/smaller place I leave and find one. Others should do the same especially when I am footing their bill. What part of this don't you get? I am suppose to pay for a stable life for someone who has too many rooms to live in and who won't work? Or who makes a job out of scamming me? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123 You go ahead and give you paychecks to some family so they can sit on their asses and have tons of kids and not work or not even try to find work while you work your fingers to the bone for them. And then you may see things differently! You are angry at strangers because you see none of them as your community. You do not want to help those below you because you do not know them, or did not know them for long. You move frequently, have little roots, and are proud of the fact. You let circumstance and minor financial changes uproot you at any given moment. Your country and lifestyle have told you this is something to be proud of and you are proud. Live that. I'm not asking you to break your training..I'm not your deprogrammer. I am happy for you that you are enjoying your life within the system. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33792358 02/07/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They worked for peanuts, sweeping your roads, cleaning public toilets. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33874624 What do you think my family did in the past, lived a fucking castle? I come from a working class northen family of builders, miners, cleaners... They worked, they earned, they invested and they sacrified and didnt live beyond their means, they asked the government for nothing. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33874624 02/07/2013 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU LOT ARE TRULY FUCKING DUMB , bedroom tax is for the old white folk who live in a house , they are basically for4cing them to move so they can have the houses for immigrants Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33808766 ARRRRRREEEEE YYOOOOUUUUUU FUUUUUUCCCKKKIINNNNG BLLLIIINNNNND !! Probably. However, what you need to do is ask yourself a question. How the fuck is a 70 year old person still living in a council house? What the hell did they do with their lives for 50 odd years that meant they had nothing to show for it? My grandparents and parents got fucking jobs and bought houses. The immigrants are not really the problem, they are a symptom of a unsustainable culture of socialist entitlement. They come here because we give everything away for free. The difference in the past was the family supported everything, now the government supports everything, and the government wont say no so long as they can print money and influence votes. Family wont give drug addict and aloholic money until they make the rest of the family homeless, but the government will just pay out for welfare programs until the money starts running out. They worked for peanuts, sweeping your roads, cleaning public toilets. People who live in council houses more often than not, work for nothing. Minimum wage or should I call it maximun wage? This is why they can never save or move on, pay a decent wage to ALL workers and perhaps they would be able to buy their own property. Pay them £200 per week and what do you expect? Bankers and politicians fucked this country and now they want to blame someone. Who better than people who cannot defend themselves? All workers working for minimum wage are basically working for the equivalent in benefits. They are working, but in reality they are on the dole, they just don't know it. If all cleaners and retail workers etc etc stopped working the country would grind to a halt, so why is it these people are treated so badly, paid peanuts and called scroungers. People need to open their eyes. Anyone agreeing that the poor should be made to suffer further are just ugly, greedy, selfish and probably lonely people. What about the bankers who lie, cheat and steal. Or MP's that lie cheat and steal? Tax avoidence etc. £20,000 lunches for politicians etc. As for Cameroon and his bunch what qualitifcations or real jobs have they ever had? Are they self made millionaires or did they inherit? (same as receiving benefits in my book). This attack on the poor is going to hit hard working (minimum wage earners)young families and families with same sex children very hard. And you people think it is fair? And Right? SHAME ON YOU ALL. I hope you are financially secure and your business never fails or you lose everything through a messy divorce!! Don't kick these people while they are down. Have a heart. And no you are not paying for them, you are paying for bankers mistakes and the lavish lifesytles of the MP's etc. yes but the social system should not be a lifestyle choice as many have now made it, it should only be for those bad times. so hopefully, once the benefits start drying up, it will kick their lazy asses in to gear. and for the young girls(kids) having more kids, maybe it will discourage this sort of beahoviour. its all just too comfortable at the moment and that has to change. "lifestyle choice". Do you really think checkout girls and shelf stackers etc really enjoy their lifestyle? Do you not believe these people if they could, would prefer more money and their own house? You are mad, without meaning to be rude, most of these people do not have the education or skills to move on and so they are taken advantage of. And because you are more successful you point your finger rather than being grateful for your life. Without these people you wouldn't feel as rich?? |