Is Scientific Genius Extinct? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14105059 United States 02/03/2013 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He should stick to inkblots. We still have to master the same physics we have mastered here on Earth, in space, and " mastered " here, we haven't even come close. We are all geniuses in our own respect, but our awareness of it is inversely proportional to our need to hang on to the world we think we know. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 14874606 United States 02/03/2013 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Future advances are likely to build on what is already known rather than alter the foundations of knowledge," Quoting: Professor Xavier I'd expect a stupid statement like that from a Californian tenured academic puppet trainer who has never contributed anything to the base of human advancement. hahahaha! Exactly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32996962 Australia 02/03/2013 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, the scientific 'community' is a very strange one; it adheres to a specific meta-paradigm, a 'mindset,' if you like, & if any scientist bucks the trend & dares to stray outside of that meta-paradigm or mindset, they are often ridiculed, shunned, distanced from the community. Putting in jeopardy careers, pensions ect. ect. [link to www.amazon.com] |
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Organic Light User ID: 8545334 United States 02/03/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As the archonic matrix system is controlled, these men and women have been suppressed. Once the chains are broken from this archonic system, genius will soar. Untroubled, Scornful, Outrageous-That is how Wisdom wants us to be! White Genocide: 1900AD @ 35% - Today less than 8% of the earth's population Sophia's Correction |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14105059 United States 02/03/2013 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " As a scientist, I think of intellectual adventure in terms of scientific research and inquiry. As members of the greater community of scholars, we should think of science as encompassing all significant knowledge which enriches life. Science in that broader sense is a great odyssey of the human spirit. Because it is just that ... the future I envision is one of glad, confident mornings of new days of greater satisfaction. Science shapes the lives and thoughts of men and the destiny of nations; many who are not scientists are thus tempted by the will to serve or by the lust for power to control the policies and conditions under which scientists must work. Scientific research and knowledge are essential elements of modern life; the changing patterns of civilization are influenced by and, in turn, have a profound effect on the nature and the course of scientific activity. This is justification for inclusion of some who are neither scientists nor professional scholars in any field among administrators and trustees who play a powerful role in guiding the affairs of science and its uses. It does not justify their lack of understanding of science and the conditions under which it can flourish.... Men of affairs and social influence need more knowledge of and appreciation of the traditions, ideals, and significance of science. Scientists are in part to blame for such lack of awareness .. we have emphasized too much our discoveries and their useful applications. We have inadequately revealed science as a great intellectual adventure. Unless this quality of science is more generally comprehended, we shall be subject to adverse pressures that result from lack of understanding." ~ D.W. Bronk |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 14874606 United States 02/03/2013 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " As a scientist, I think of intellectual adventure in terms of scientific research and inquiry. As members of the greater community of scholars, we should think of science as encompassing all significant knowledge which enriches life. Science in that broader sense is a great odyssey of the human spirit. Because it is just that ... the future I envision is one of glad, confident mornings of new days of greater satisfaction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14105059 Science shapes the lives and thoughts of men and the destiny of nations; many who are not scientists are thus tempted by the will to serve or by the lust for power to control the policies and conditions under which scientists must work. Scientific research and knowledge are essential elements of modern life; the changing patterns of civilization are influenced by and, in turn, have a profound effect on the nature and the course of scientific activity. This is justification for inclusion of some who are neither scientists nor professional scholars in any field among administrators and trustees who play a powerful role in guiding the affairs of science and its uses. It does not justify their lack of understanding of science and the conditions under which it can flourish.... Men of affairs and social influence need more knowledge of and appreciation of the traditions, ideals, and significance of science. Scientists are in part to blame for such lack of awareness .. we have emphasized too much our discoveries and their useful applications. We have inadequately revealed science as a great intellectual adventure. Unless this quality of science is more generally comprehended, we shall be subject to adverse pressures that result from lack of understanding." ~ D.W. Bronk |
skerry64 User ID: 1487396 United States 02/03/2013 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I blame the illegal-ization of LSD. “Taking LSD was a profound experience, one of the most important things in my life. LSD shows you that there’s another side to the coin, and you can’t remember it when it wears off, but you know it. It reinforced my sense of what was important—creating great things instead of making money, putting things back into the stream of history and of human consciousness as much as I could.” --Steve Jobs Last Edited by skerry64 on 02/03/2013 01:44 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33649403 Australia 02/04/2013 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a lot of scientific genius is in the fringe area and not accepted in mainstream science. Rugerro Santilli, Ananda Bosman, Dan Winter, Mensur Omerbashich <--- I'm not a huge fan of this last guy, he reads like a giant fuckwit, but he is one of those fringe thinkers, who could be said to be genius', that have already revolutionised science. Their work will be recognised in the future when the rest of science catches the fuck up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/04/2013 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a lot of scientific genius is in the fringe area and not accepted in mainstream science. Rugerro Santilli, Ananda Bosman, Dan Winter, Mensur Omerbashich <--- I'm not a huge fan of this last guy, he reads like a giant fuckwit, but he is one of those fringe thinkers, who could be said to be genius', that have already revolutionised science. Their work will be recognised in the future when the rest of science catches the fuck up. Quoting: Requiem I entirely agree with this. I could name others as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/04/2013 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As the archonic matrix system is controlled, these men and women have been suppressed. Once the chains are broken from this archonic system, genius will soar. Quoting: Organic Light Genius is already soaring. It's the funding of it and control of the result that is strangled. Yep. And the politics. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/04/2013 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything in science is supposed to be agreed upon by whoever is in charge of political correctness. Anyone that challenges the status quo is forcibly removed from the field. (Fired, has their position or grant terminated, or is treated like dirt and discredited.) Quoting: samanthasunflower There are a few more problems as well. One is the problem of professors. If a new found theory comes along that completely destroys that professors life-long work, many professors would squash the new findings in order to keep their research and work from being invalid. They get stuck in that mindset, and when they teach they make sure not to veer too far from their own models. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33367963 Canada 02/04/2013 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything in science is supposed to be agreed upon by whoever is in charge of political correctness. Anyone that challenges the status quo is forcibly removed from the field. (Fired, has their position or grant terminated, or is treated like dirt and discredited.) Quoting: samanthasunflower There are a few more problems as well. One is the problem of professors. If a new found theory comes along that completely destroys that professors life-long work, many professors would squash the new findings in order to keep their research and work from being invalid. They get stuck in that mindset, and when they teach they make sure not to veer too far from their own models. Or, to put it simply, human intelligence pool is a constant, and population is increasing....do the math.. |
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just a dude User ID: 9618710 United States 02/04/2013 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything in science is supposed to be agreed upon by whoever is in charge of political correctness. Anyone that challenges the status quo is forcibly removed from the field. (Fired, has their position or grant terminated, or is treated like dirt and discredited.) Quoting: samanthasunflower There are a few more problems as well. One is the problem of professors. If a new found theory comes along that completely destroys that professors life-long work, many professors would squash the new findings in order to keep their research and work from being invalid. They get stuck in that mindset, and when they teach they make sure not to veer too far from their own models. You guys are over generalizing. Avenues of research have momentum. No different than construction plans that take years... The challenge is that the 'yes men' parse research proposals at the behest of alphabet agencies. The cream doesn't rise into these 'clerical' positions. |
Nacht im Walde User ID: 33677041 Germany 02/04/2013 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this article makes me laugh, especially this part: "The core disciplines have accumulated not so much anomalies as mere loose ends that will be tidied up one way or another" Have not encountered anomalies? Really? It`s kind of strange really... when one is completely immersed into this standard world view, it is too easy to say something like that because from that point of view it really does seem that way. But when one inquires into the core of these issues one finds that it actually is more like a belief system than anything else... and this comes as a big shock really because one normally thinks that science is secularized and searches for the truth.... and when one begins to ask questions, fundamental questions, this whole constructed world view all of a sudden looks very fragile indeed. One has to keep in mind that in the common empirical approach there is always a gap between reality and the observer. And this gap is where the theories come in. But they can only ever describe reality as such, not truely understand it. When one sees this, then ultimately one will realize that all made assumptions are ephemeral and that science is a quest, a process to find the truth - there can never (at least in the common framework of the scientific approach) be a complete understanding as such. Who knows - perhaps the EU tipping point will start it all off? :) We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are. - Anais Nin |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 904314 Canada 02/04/2013 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Must be damnhard to get funding for abstract theoretical science these days, unless someone thinks there's a buck to be made off it! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/04/2013 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this article makes me laugh, especially this part: Quoting: Nacht im Walde "The core disciplines have accumulated not so much anomalies as mere loose ends that will be tidied up one way or another" Have not encountered anomalies? Really? It`s kind of strange really... when one is completely immersed into this standard world view, it is too easy to say something like that because from that point of view it really does seem that way. But when one inquires into the core of these issues one finds that it actually is more like a belief system than anything else... and this comes as a big shock really because one normally thinks that science is secularized and searches for the truth.... and when one begins to ask questions, fundamental questions, this whole constructed world view all of a sudden looks very fragile indeed. One has to keep in mind that in the common empirical approach there is always a gap between reality and the observer. And this gap is where the theories come in. But they can only ever describe reality as such, not truely understand it. When one sees this, then ultimately one will realize that all made assumptions are ephemeral and that science is a quest, a process to find the truth - there can never (at least in the common framework of the scientific approach) be a complete understanding as such. Who knows - perhaps the EU tipping point will start it all off? :) During this entire post, that keeps popping into my mind. |
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