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The book of Tephi.

 
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The Riddle Solved!!!

For if Darda, the Egyptian, son of Zarah, was Dardanus, the Egyptian founder of Troy, and if Chalcol was the Egyptian Cecrops or Niul and the contemporary founder of Athens and Thebes, and if Heman, the brother of Niul, was the likewise contemporary Egyptian Agenon who inherited Phoenicia, and if Mahol, the son of Zerah and the father of these famous Egyptians, was Scytha or Fenesia Farsa, the Egyptian ancestor of the Milesians whose records, full and complete, enable us to blend the whole into one continuous recital down to the present day, surely we have means at hand in TROJAN, GRECIAN, and MILESIAN sources, to continue out the record of the Sacred Chronicles, and lend them greater reverence as we come to understand and prize them at their worth!

And it is just this claim that we now advance, for by rescuing this fragmentary reference to Zerah's line(not Zarah's), found in 1 Kings(IV. 30-31), from the ignorance and misconception with which all former generations seem to have treated it, and by reading in it a clear and intentional reference to the famous heroes of secular history, to the founders of Phoenicia, Grecia, Troy, and the Milesians, and indirectly to Rome, the child of Troy, to Carthage and to the Brigantes of Hispania, we place in the hands of Our Race, and before their open eyes, the peer of Rosetta Stone itself., - in that all men who are "wise" may read the conclusion in their own language between the lines of Sacred History itself!

The Greeks, in imitation of other polite nations of antiquity, began to cultivate history, and committed these relations, such as they found them, to writing; but unable to trace the precise periods of these transactions, they gave them the best form they could. Irish history will, however, I think, to universal satisfaction, clear up these difficulties, and prove that even tradition itself in history is not to be despised.

--- Charles A. L. Totten, M.A.
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You are very welcome! hf

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Your interpretation of the scriptures is wrong. The prophesies you speak of are not fulfilled by some princess of Zedekiah's line escaping to Ireland. They are fulfilled by Lehi and his sons and Zedekiah's youngest son (the tender twig of Ezekiel 17:22) to the Americas. If you understand antedeluvian geography that you know that the New Jerusalem will be built in the New World, not in the Old. All of this is documented in the book that will bring you closer to God than any other book on Earth: The Book of Mormon.
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you couldn't be more wrong

the New Jerusalem won't be built of brick and mortar

it will be built of the bodies of the "church"

the temple is comprised of the members thereof

we are talking in spiritual bodies at that point in time

no flesh will enter into the Millennium Age!
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I have known this since the 1980s, when I was searching for my roots, especially my mother's Irish side. Read the history of Ireland, and listened to Herbert W. Armstrong telling us almost the same story you did, BUT differed in that a prince of an Irish king set sail for present day Israel, met and married a daughter of king Zachariah and came back to Ireland bringing not only the 'Pillow of Jacob', but the Coronation Chair and a rabbi.

Later, when two major tribes split on a famous kings death, one went to present day Scotland, the tribe of Dan. Been there in the 1970s, and there are many places named Dan's home, etc. They had the 'Stone of Destiny' as the Irish called it ), until the English took it to London after they defeated the Highlands in battle.

I SAW the Coronation Chair IN the Tower of London, and asked the two bobbies there why it had been ruined by a steel plates welded under it ( like where the potty went if it were a potty chair ) and they replied that some Scottish students had 'stolen' it a few years back, but Scotland Yard got it back.

THEN they said it was NOT to be used again; the last monarch had been crowned that would sit OVER the Stone/Pillow of Jacob, so the beauty of the extremely carved chair was not an issue. Having worked on/with English furniture for over 30 years, I knew it wasn't English, but looked more middle eastern. The aforementioned fact that they would NOT use it again for a crowning, told me the promise to Abraham by YHEW that " There would be an unbroken line of kings and queens upon the throne, until the End Times ", was soon to be fulfilled, as Elizabeth would die in the next 40-50 years !

That happening can occur at any day now, but as my English grandfather would probably say, " God save the Queen."

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Jeremiah the prophet is the one who was consigned with taking the four daughters of Zedekiah, all of whom were prophetess' to what is now known as Scotland. one of the prophetess' names was "Scota" for which Scotland later came to be known.
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I have known this since the 1980s, when I was searching for my roots, especially my mother's Irish side. Read the history of Ireland, and listened to Herbert W. Armstrong telling us almost the same story you did, BUT differed in that a prince of an Irish king set sail for present day Israel, met and married a daughter of king Zachariah and came back to Ireland bringing not only the 'Pillow of Jacob', but the Coronation Chair and a rabbi.

Later, when two major tribes split on a famous kings death, one went to present day Scotland, the tribe of Dan. Been there in the 1970s, and there are many places named Dan's home, etc. They had the 'Stone of Destiny' as the Irish called it ), until the English took it to London after they defeated the Highlands in battle.

I SAW the Coronation Chair IN the Tower of London, and asked the two bobbies there why it had been ruined by a steel plates welded under it ( like where the potty went if it were a potty chair ) and they replied that some Scottish students had 'stolen' it a few years back, but Scotland Yard got it back.

THEN they said it was NOT to be used again; the last monarch had been crowned that would sit OVER the Stone/Pillow of Jacob, so the beauty of the extremely carved chair was not an issue. Having worked on/with English furniture for over 30 years, I knew it wasn't English, but looked more middle eastern. The aforementioned fact that they would NOT use it again for a crowning, told me the promise to Abraham by YHEW that " There would be an unbroken line of kings and queens upon the throne, until the End Times ", was soon to be fulfilled, as Elizabeth would die in the next 40-50 years !

That happening can occur at any day now, but as my English grandfather would probably say, " God save the Queen."

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the english stole the crown you will come to find

Elizabeth had Mary queen of scots imprisoned where she spent the rest of her life until she eventually died

she was the reigning queen at the time and it was illegally usurped by form of brutal theft

they were just as bad if not worse than they are today back in those days

the crown was repeatedly raped from the natural lineage who was to reign

this will all be brought forth into the light of day and the shame will be doled out liberally

as it should
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I have known this since the 1980s, when I was searching for my roots, especially my mother's Irish side. Read the history of Ireland, and listened to Herbert W. Armstrong telling us almost the same story you did, BUT differed in that a prince of an Irish king set sail for present day Israel, met and married a daughter of king Zachariah and came back to Ireland bringing not only the 'Pillow of Jacob', but the Coronation Chair and a rabbi.

Later, when two major tribes split on a famous kings death, one went to present day Scotland, the tribe of Dan. Been there in the 1970s, and there are many places named Dan's home, etc. They had the 'Stone of Destiny' as the Irish called it ), until the English took it to London after they defeated the Highlands in battle.

I SAW the Coronation Chair IN the Tower of London, and asked the two bobbies there why it had been ruined by a steel plates welded under it ( like where the potty went if it were a potty chair ) and they replied that some Scottish students had 'stolen' it a few years back, but Scotland Yard got it back.

THEN they said it was NOT to be used again; the last monarch had been crowned that would sit OVER the Stone/Pillow of Jacob, so the beauty of the extremely carved chair was not an issue. Having worked on/with English furniture for over 30 years, I knew it wasn't English, but looked more middle eastern. The aforementioned fact that they would NOT use it again for a crowning, told me the promise to Abraham by YHEW that " There would be an unbroken line of kings and queens upon the throne, until the End Times ", was soon to be fulfilled, as Elizabeth would die in the next 40-50 years !

That happening can occur at any day now, but as my English grandfather would probably say, " God save the Queen."

Eagle
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they don't have the original stone of scone anyway

they're all frauds and fakes

you can see why nothing of worth should have been entrusted into their hands, let alone a nation

they couldn't even protect and defend the national monument/treasure that jacobs pillar was in truth

idiots
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I bet if they tried to crown another fake over the real stone of scone it would let their fraudulence be known

wasn't it supposed to scream if the king was legit or some such thing?

bet it's never done that in anyones recollection
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FAKE ANOTHER PROOF OF IDENTITY THEFT

No References! In preparation for the writing of this article, and several others on the royal house of Britain, I searched out and read literally DOZENS of books written by British-Israelites in order to more accurately understand the BASIS for the Jeremiah/Tea-Tephi legend so eloquently penned by Herbert Armstrong. I also consulted primary and secondary sources on the Irish and Scottish annals.


To my surprise, I found that the British-Israelite books all REPEAT the same Tea-Tephi story (with slight variations), each aggressively claiming that the story is found in the ancient annals. In research no one have NOT FOUND a single British-Israelite book that actually gives a REFERENCE to WHERE in the Irish and Scottish annals the supporting material may be found! Armstrong's booklet does not -- nor does Joseph Allen's earlier book on the subject.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Well Well where should I start? Well for starters cleaning up this comic book tale about some Tea Tephi. I was continually bombarded with harassment on this book and always brushed it aside,until last shabbat. I decided to look at the works and determine the source and accuracy of this legend of EUROPE. I was also intrigued by this Disneyland fairytale about Jeremiah the prophet going to Ireland and having a grave and some church.

I started reading the story and it was not just a story but a well fabricated story and a very sad one at that. I immediately started to dig up facts and authors and creators of this fable;I looked in encyclopedias for names of British institutions and universities keeping archives, Irish professors of historical facts and Archeology on this topic.

The information I got was all but so sparse as to make a case of authenticity.I was directed to HERBERT ARMSTRONG'S FICTIONAL LAUGHABLE DEPICTION OF BRITAIN AND THE UNITED STATES IN PROPHECY.This was the one that did it,I was amazed to see the corruption of scripture and again the promoting of a lies using Gods words to promote vain exaltation of a gentile nation promoting themselves as HEBREWS.



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According to Herbert Armstrong in the book "The United States and Britain in Prophecy," the prophet Jeremiah (in the company of his scribe Baruch) took King Zedekiah's daughter to Ireland where she founded a line of Davidic kings that has continued on down to this day. What corroborating evidence can be found in the Irish annals to back up this assertion? What FACTS can be gleaned from the ancient sources to show this compelling story to be true? Shocking as it may sound, there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER in either the Irish or the Scottish annals -- not even a TRACE of Jeremiah, Tea-Tephi and the ever-faithful Baruch! The TRUTH is, if Jeremiah ever brought Zedekiah's daughter to Ireland, it went TOTALLY UNNOTICED in the ancient Irish annals.

I went in and verified all the references in the following investigations using the books and reference documents pages and numbers and all do justify the falsehood of this tall tale.

THE TEPHI AND JEREMIAH STORY IS JUST ANOTHER LIE AND HOAX AS IS CHRISTMAS AND THE EASTER BUNNY! THIS STORY OF TEPHI IS THE TYPE OF FOLKLORE STORIES YOU HEAR AT HAPPY HOUR FRIDAY EVENINGS AT CONELLY'S "YOU WANT TO GO WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR NAME"lol

Please read on and form your conclusion because the biblele never had Jeremiah going to Ireland! and those scriptures of the siege JERUSALEM I will post from the book of baruch and Josephus the historian


THE INVESTIGATION AND FINDINGS



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As related by Herbert W. Armstrong in the booklet "The United states and Britain in Prophecy", the story of Jeremiah's journey to Ireland with a daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah comes to life under the author's pen: "The real ancient history of Ireland is very extensive, though colored with some legend. But with the facts of biblical history and prophecy in mind, one can easily sift out the legend from the true history in studying ancient Irish annals.

Throwing out that which is obviously legendary, we glean from various histories of Ireland the following: Long prior to 700 B.C. a strong colony called "Tuatha de Danaan" (tribe of Dan) arrived in ships, drove out other tribes, and settled there. Later, in the days of David, a colony of the line of Zarah arrived in Ireland from the Near East.
"Then, in 569 B.C. (date of Jeremiah's transplanting), an elderly, white-haired patriarch, sometimes referred to as a "saint," came to Ireland. With him was the princess daughter of an eastern king and a companion called "Simon Brach," spelled in different histories as Breck, Berech, Brach, or Berach.


The princess had a Hebrew name Tephi -- a pet name -- her full name being TEA-TEPHI.
"Modern literature of those who recognize our national identity has confused this Tea-Tephi, a daughter of Zedekiah, with an earlier Tea, a daughter of Ith, who lived in the days of David.


"This royal party included the son of the king of Ireland who had been in Jerusalem at the time of the siege. There he had become acquainted with Tea-Tephi. He married her shortly after 585 -- when the city fell. Their young son, now about 12 years of age, accompanied them to Ireland. Besides the royal family, Jeremiah brought with them some remarkable things, including a harp, AN ARK, and a wonderful STONE CALLED "LIA-FAIL," or "STONE OF DESTINY."
"....many kings in the history of Ireland, Scotland, and England have been coronated over this stone -- including the present queen. The stone rests today in Westminster Abbey in London, and the coronation chair is built over and around it. A sign beside it labels it "Jacob's pillar-stone" (Gen. 28:18).


"The royal husband of the Hebrew princess Tea was given the TITLE HERREMON upon ascending the throne of his father. This Herremon has usually been confused with a much earlier Gede the Herremon in David's day -- who married his uncle Ith's daughter Tea. The son of this later king Herremon and Hebrew princess continued on the throne of Ireland and THIS SAME DYNASTY CONTINUED UNBROKEN through all the kings of Ireland; was OVERTURNED and transplanted again in Scotland; again OVERTURNED and moved to London, England, where this same dynasty continues today in the reign of Queen Elizabeth II....


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"In view of the linking together of biblical history, prophecy, and Irish history, can anyone deny that this Hebrew princess was the daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah and therefore heir to the throne of David? That King Herremon was a descendant of Zarah, here married to the daughter of Pharez, healing the ancient breach? That when the throne of David was first overturned by Jeremiah, it was REPLANTED in Ireland, later overturned a second time and replanted in Scotland, overturned a third time and planted in London? When Christ returns to earth to sit on that throne, He shall take over a LIVE, EXISTING throne, not a nonexistent one (Luke 1:32)." -- 1980, Worldwide Church of God. Pp. 99-102.


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No References! In preparation for the writing of this article, and several others on the royal house of Britain, I searched out and read literally DOZENS of books written by British-Israelites in order to more accurately understand the BASIS for the Jeremiah/Tea-Tephi legend so eloquently penned by Herbert Armstrong. I also consulted primary and secondary sources on the Irish and Scottish annals.


To my surprise, I found that the British-Israelite books all REPEAT the same Tea-Tephi story (with slight variations), each aggressively claiming that the story is found in the ancient annals. In research no one have NOT FOUND a single British-Israelite book that actually gives a REFERENCE to WHERE in the Irish and Scottish annals the supporting material may be found! Armstrong's booklet does not -- nor does Joseph Allen's earlier book on the subject.
As also discovered by Greg Doudna (former Ambassador College student, now with the Department of Near Eastern Studies at Cornell University), "they all seem to draw from previous British-Israel writings.


They speak so confidently it sounds like there must be something in the annals to which they refer. The NAMES mentioned in the Tea-Tephi legend appear in the annals, true enough, but I have discovered they are TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSONS IN THE ANNALS than the British-Israel legend makes them out to be. The annals simply don't say what the British-Israel literature, or the Worldwide Church of God, SAY they say.

It is a LEGEND that someone somewhere within British-Israel circles began, stated it as fact, and it has been repeated as fact within British-Israel circles ever since, down to the present day in which the Worldwide Church of God repeats it to millions. It may make an interesting story, but IT IS COMPLETELY FABRICATED." ("Afterword on British-Israelism", p. 121).
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I have to ECHO Greg Doudna in his discoveries: There is absolutely NO FOUNDATION in the Irish and Scottish annals for the story of Jeremiah and Tea-Tephi! NONE of the dozens of British-Israelite books I have read give quotations from the annals themselves, or cite chapter and verse in the annals. They simply ASSERT, in a convincing style, that these things are so. Frankly, I was not aware how BASELESS these assertions were until I researched all the literature for myself. Who Was Ollam Fodla?


The key figure in Armstrong's story is, of course, Jeremiah the prophet. According to Worldwide Church of God historian Herman L. Hoeh, Jeremiah the prophet was known in Ireland by the name "Ollam Fodhla." (See "Compendium of World History", vol. I, p. 432). In Armstrong's booklet a similar connection is made; and British-Israelite theorists also claim this as fact. E. Raymond Capt in his book "Jacob's Pillar" makes the SAME assertion: "Many of the ancient Irish records, when making reference to an 'eastern king's daughter,' also mention an old man; 'a patriarch, a saint, a prophet,' called 'OLLAM FODHLA' ....Tradition asserts that Ollam Fodhla was none other than JEREMIAH, the prophet..." (Artisan Sales, Thousand Oaks, CA. 1977. P. 31).
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Let me state here and now that I have found NO SUCH TRADITION in the Irish annals!

To further solidify this identification of Jeremiah with the Irish Ollam Fodhla, E. Raymond Capt makes the following statement:

SOME authorities on Irish history have cited the Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland by the Four Masters (edited from MSS. in the Library of the Royal Academy and of Trinity College, Dublin translated by John O'Donovan, M.T.I.A.) as A LINK BETWEEN IRELAND AND JEREMIAH: "Ollam Fola (Foldha) is celebrated in ANCIENT HISTORY as a sage and legislator, eminent for learning, wisdom and excellent institutions, and his historic fame has been recognized by placing his medallion in 'basso relievo' with those of Moses and other great legislators in the interior of the dome of the Four Courts of Dublin....(Ibid., p. 41).

Excuse me! did I miss something here? I might be as blind as a bat in a Dublin fog but I saw no link between Ireland and Jeremiah in this passage! If that's all they can base their identification of Jeremiah on, then their whole theory is extremely tenuous!

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Well Well where should I start? Well for starters cleaning up this comic book tale about some Tea Tephi. I was continually bombarded with harassment on this book and always brushed it aside,until last shabbat. I decided to look at the works and determine the source and accuracy of this legend of EUROPE. I was also intrigued by this Disneyland fairytale about Jeremiah the prophet going to Ireland and having a grave and some church.

I started reading the story and it was not just a story but a well fabricated story and a very sad one at that. I immediately started to dig up facts and authors and creators of this fable;I looked in encyclopedias for names of British institutions and universities keeping archives, Irish professors of historical facts and Archeology on this topic.

The information I got was all but so sparse as to make a case of authenticity.I was directed to HERBERT ARMSTRONG'S FICTIONAL LAUGHABLE DEPICTION OF BRITAIN AND THE UNITED STATES IN PROPHECY.This was the one that did it,I was amazed to see the corruption of scripture and again the promoting of a lies using Gods words to promote vain exaltation of a gentile nation promoting themselves as HEBREWS.



jhhyytty
"TEPHI"

According to Herbert Armstrong in the book "The United States and Britain in Prophecy," the prophet Jeremiah (in the company of his scribe Baruch) took King Zedekiah's daughter to Ireland where she founded a line of Davidic kings that has continued on down to this day. What corroborating evidence can be found in the Irish annals to back up this assertion? What FACTS can be gleaned from the ancient sources to show this compelling story to be true? Shocking as it may sound, there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER in either the Irish or the Scottish annals -- not even a TRACE of Jeremiah, Tea-Tephi and the ever-faithful Baruch! The TRUTH is, if Jeremiah ever brought Zedekiah's daughter to Ireland, it went TOTALLY UNNOTICED in the ancient Irish annals.

I went in and verified all the references in the following investigations using the books and reference documents pages and numbers and all do justify the falsehood of this tall tale.

THE TEPHI AND JEREMIAH STORY IS JUST ANOTHER LIE AND HOAX AS IS CHRISTMAS AND THE EASTER BUNNY! THIS STORY OF TEPHI IS THE TYPE OF FOLKLORE STORIES YOU HEAR AT HAPPY HOUR FRIDAY EVENINGS AT CONELLY'S "YOU WANT TO GO WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR NAME"lol

Please read on and form your conclusion because the biblele never had Jeremiah going to Ireland! and those scriptures of the siege JERUSALEM I will post from the book of baruch and Josephus the historian


THE INVESTIGATION AND FINDINGS



fumblin



As related by Herbert W. Armstrong in the booklet "The United states and Britain in Prophecy", the story of Jeremiah's journey to Ireland with a daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah comes to life under the author's pen: "The real ancient history of Ireland is very extensive, though colored with some legend. But with the facts of biblical history and prophecy in mind, one can easily sift out the legend from the true history in studying ancient Irish annals.

Throwing out that which is obviously legendary, we glean from various histories of Ireland the following: Long prior to 700 B.C. a strong colony called "Tuatha de Danaan" (tribe of Dan) arrived in ships, drove out other tribes, and settled there. Later, in the days of David, a colony of the line of Zarah arrived in Ireland from the Near East.
"Then, in 569 B.C. (date of Jeremiah's transplanting), an elderly, white-haired patriarch, sometimes referred to as a "saint," came to Ireland. With him was the princess daughter of an eastern king and a companion called "Simon Brach," spelled in different histories as Breck, Berech, Brach, or Berach.


The princess had a Hebrew name Tephi -- a pet name -- her full name being TEA-TEPHI.
"Modern literature of those who recognize our national identity has confused this Tea-Tephi, a daughter of Zedekiah, with an earlier Tea, a daughter of Ith, who lived in the days of David.


"This royal party included the son of the king of Ireland who had been in Jerusalem at the time of the siege. There he had become acquainted with Tea-Tephi. He married her shortly after 585 -- when the city fell. Their young son, now about 12 years of age, accompanied them to Ireland. Besides the royal family, Jeremiah brought with them some remarkable things, including a harp, AN ARK, and a wonderful STONE CALLED "LIA-FAIL," or "STONE OF DESTINY."
"....many kings in the history of Ireland, Scotland, and England have been coronated over this stone -- including the present queen. The stone rests today in Westminster Abbey in London, and the coronation chair is built over and around it. A sign beside it labels it "Jacob's pillar-stone" (Gen. 28:18).


"The royal husband of the Hebrew princess Tea was given the TITLE HERREMON upon ascending the throne of his father. This Herremon has usually been confused with a much earlier Gede the Herremon in David's day -- who married his uncle Ith's daughter Tea. The son of this later king Herremon and Hebrew princess continued on the throne of Ireland and THIS SAME DYNASTY CONTINUED UNBROKEN through all the kings of Ireland; was OVERTURNED and transplanted again in Scotland; again OVERTURNED and moved to London, England, where this same dynasty continues today in the reign of Queen Elizabeth II....


HERBERT ARMSTRONG XCERPT HILARIOUS ROFLMAO

"In view of the linking together of biblical history, prophecy, and Irish history, can anyone deny that this Hebrew princess was the daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah and therefore heir to the throne of David? That King Herremon was a descendant of Zarah, here married to the daughter of Pharez, healing the ancient breach? That when the throne of David was first overturned by Jeremiah, it was REPLANTED in Ireland, later overturned a second time and replanted in Scotland, overturned a third time and planted in London? When Christ returns to earth to sit on that throne, He shall take over a LIVE, EXISTING throne, not a nonexistent one (Luke 1:32)." -- 1980, Worldwide Church of God. Pp. 99-102.


FAKE ANOTHER PROOF OF IDENTITY THEFT

No References! In preparation for the writing of this article, and several others on the royal house of Britain, I searched out and read literally DOZENS of books written by British-Israelites in order to more accurately understand the BASIS for the Jeremiah/Tea-Tephi legend so eloquently penned by Herbert Armstrong. I also consulted primary and secondary sources on the Irish and Scottish annals.


To my surprise, I found that the British-Israelite books all REPEAT the same Tea-Tephi story (with slight variations), each aggressively claiming that the story is found in the ancient annals. In research no one have NOT FOUND a single British-Israelite book that actually gives a REFERENCE to WHERE in the Irish and Scottish annals the supporting material may be found! Armstrong's booklet does not -- nor does Joseph Allen's earlier book on the subject.
As also discovered by Greg Doudna (former Ambassador College student, now with the Department of Near Eastern Studies at Cornell University), "they all seem to draw from previous British-Israel writings.


They speak so confidently it sounds like there must be something in the annals to which they refer. The NAMES mentioned in the Tea-Tephi legend appear in the annals, true enough, but I have discovered they are TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSONS IN THE ANNALS than the British-Israel legend makes them out to be. The annals simply don't say what the British-Israel literature, or the Worldwide Church of God, SAY they say.

It is a LEGEND that someone somewhere within British-Israel circles began, stated it as fact, and it has been repeated as fact within British-Israel circles ever since, down to the present day in which the Worldwide Church of God repeats it to millions. It may make an interesting story, but IT IS COMPLETELY FABRICATED." ("Afterword on British-Israelism", p. 121).
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I have to ECHO Greg Doudna in his discoveries: There is absolutely NO FOUNDATION in the Irish and Scottish annals for the story of Jeremiah and Tea-Tephi! NONE of the dozens of British-Israelite books I have read give quotations from the annals themselves, or cite chapter and verse in the annals. They simply ASSERT, in a convincing style, that these things are so. Frankly, I was not aware how BASELESS these assertions were until I researched all the literature for myself. Who Was Ollam Fodla?


The key figure in Armstrong's story is, of course, Jeremiah the prophet. According to Worldwide Church of God historian Herman L. Hoeh, Jeremiah the prophet was known in Ireland by the name "Ollam Fodhla." (See "Compendium of World History", vol. I, p. 432). In Armstrong's booklet a similar connection is made; and British-Israelite theorists also claim this as fact. E. Raymond Capt in his book "Jacob's Pillar" makes the SAME assertion: "Many of the ancient Irish records, when making reference to an 'eastern king's daughter,' also mention an old man; 'a patriarch, a saint, a prophet,' called 'OLLAM FODHLA' ....Tradition asserts that Ollam Fodhla was none other than JEREMIAH, the prophet..." (Artisan Sales, Thousand Oaks, CA. 1977. P. 31).
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Let me state here and now that I have found NO SUCH TRADITION in the Irish annals!

To further solidify this identification of Jeremiah with the Irish Ollam Fodhla, E. Raymond Capt makes the following statement:

SOME authorities on Irish history have cited the Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland by the Four Masters (edited from MSS. in the Library of the Royal Academy and of Trinity College, Dublin translated by John O'Donovan, M.T.I.A.) as A LINK BETWEEN IRELAND AND JEREMIAH: "Ollam Fola (Foldha) is celebrated in ANCIENT HISTORY as a sage and legislator, eminent for learning, wisdom and excellent institutions, and his historic fame has been recognized by placing his medallion in 'basso relievo' with those of Moses and other great legislators in the interior of the dome of the Four Courts of Dublin....(Ibid., p. 41).

Excuse me! did I miss something here? I might be as blind as a bat in a Dublin fog but I saw no link between Ireland and Jeremiah in this passage! If that's all they can base their identification of Jeremiah on, then their whole theory is extremely tenuous!

[link to avocadoridge.com]

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Well Well where should I start? Well for starters cleaning up this comic book tale about some Tea Tephi. I was continually bombarded with harassment on this book and always brushed it aside,until last shabbat. I decided to look at the works and determine the source and accuracy of this legend of EUROPE. I was also intrigued by this Disneyland fairytale about Jeremiah the prophet going to Ireland and having a grave and some church.

I started reading the story and it was not just a story but a well fabricated story and a very sad one at that. I immediately started to dig up facts and authors and creators of this fable;I looked in encyclopedias for names of British institutions and universities keeping archives, Irish professors of historical facts and Archeology on this topic.

The information I got was all but so sparse as to make a case of authenticity.I was directed to HERBERT ARMSTRONG'S FICTIONAL LAUGHABLE DEPICTION OF BRITAIN AND THE UNITED STATES IN PROPHECY.This was the one that did it,I was amazed to see the corruption of scripture and again the promoting of a lies using Gods words to promote vain exaltation of a gentile nation promoting themselves as HEBREWS.



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"TEPHI"

According to Herbert Armstrong in the book "The United States and Britain in Prophecy," the prophet Jeremiah (in the company of his scribe Baruch) took King Zedekiah's daughter to Ireland where she founded a line of Davidic kings that has continued on down to this day. What corroborating evidence can be found in the Irish annals to back up this assertion? What FACTS can be gleaned from the ancient sources to show this compelling story to be true? Shocking as it may sound, there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER in either the Irish or the Scottish annals -- not even a TRACE of Jeremiah, Tea-Tephi and the ever-faithful Baruch! The TRUTH is, if Jeremiah ever brought Zedekiah's daughter to Ireland, it went TOTALLY UNNOTICED in the ancient Irish annals.

I went in and verified all the references in the following investigations using the books and reference documents pages and numbers and all do justify the falsehood of this tall tale.

THE TEPHI AND JEREMIAH STORY IS JUST ANOTHER LIE AND HOAX AS IS CHRISTMAS AND THE EASTER BUNNY! THIS STORY OF TEPHI IS THE TYPE OF FOLKLORE STORIES YOU HEAR AT HAPPY HOUR FRIDAY EVENINGS AT CONELLY'S "YOU WANT TO GO WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR NAME"lol

Please read on and form your conclusion because the biblele never had Jeremiah going to Ireland! and those scriptures of the siege JERUSALEM I will post from the book of baruch and Josephus the historian


THE INVESTIGATION AND FINDINGS



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As related by Herbert W. Armstrong in the booklet "The United states and Britain in Prophecy", the story of Jeremiah's journey to Ireland with a daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah comes to life under the author's pen: "The real ancient history of Ireland is very extensive, though colored with some legend. But with the facts of biblical history and prophecy in mind, one can easily sift out the legend from the true history in studying ancient Irish annals.

Throwing out that which is obviously legendary, we glean from various histories of Ireland the following: Long prior to 700 B.C. a strong colony called "Tuatha de Danaan" (tribe of Dan) arrived in ships, drove out other tribes, and settled there. Later, in the days of David, a colony of the line of Zarah arrived in Ireland from the Near East.
"Then, in 569 B.C. (date of Jeremiah's transplanting), an elderly, white-haired patriarch, sometimes referred to as a "saint," came to Ireland. With him was the princess daughter of an eastern king and a companion called "Simon Brach," spelled in different histories as Breck, Berech, Brach, or Berach.


The princess had a Hebrew name Tephi -- a pet name -- her full name being TEA-TEPHI.
"Modern literature of those who recognize our national identity has confused this Tea-Tephi, a daughter of Zedekiah, with an earlier Tea, a daughter of Ith, who lived in the days of David.


"This royal party included the son of the king of Ireland who had been in Jerusalem at the time of the siege. There he had become acquainted with Tea-Tephi. He married her shortly after 585 -- when the city fell. Their young son, now about 12 years of age, accompanied them to Ireland. Besides the royal family, Jeremiah brought with them some remarkable things, including a harp, AN ARK, and a wonderful STONE CALLED "LIA-FAIL," or "STONE OF DESTINY."
"....many kings in the history of Ireland, Scotland, and England have been coronated over this stone -- including the present queen. The stone rests today in Westminster Abbey in London, and the coronation chair is built over and around it. A sign beside it labels it "Jacob's pillar-stone" (Gen. 28:18).


"The royal husband of the Hebrew princess Tea was given the TITLE HERREMON upon ascending the throne of his father. This Herremon has usually been confused with a much earlier Gede the Herremon in David's day -- who married his uncle Ith's daughter Tea. The son of this later king Herremon and Hebrew princess continued on the throne of Ireland and THIS SAME DYNASTY CONTINUED UNBROKEN through all the kings of Ireland; was OVERTURNED and transplanted again in Scotland; again OVERTURNED and moved to London, England, where this same dynasty continues today in the reign of Queen Elizabeth II....


HERBERT ARMSTRONG XCERPT HILARIOUS ROFLMAO

"In view of the linking together of biblical history, prophecy, and Irish history, can anyone deny that this Hebrew princess was the daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah and therefore heir to the throne of David? That King Herremon was a descendant of Zarah, here married to the daughter of Pharez, healing the ancient breach? That when the throne of David was first overturned by Jeremiah, it was REPLANTED in Ireland, later overturned a second time and replanted in Scotland, overturned a third time and planted in London? When Christ returns to earth to sit on that throne, He shall take over a LIVE, EXISTING throne, not a nonexistent one (Luke 1:32)." -- 1980, Worldwide Church of God. Pp. 99-102.


FAKE ANOTHER PROOF OF IDENTITY THEFT

No References! In preparation for the writing of this article, and several others on the royal house of Britain, I searched out and read literally DOZENS of books written by British-Israelites in order to more accurately understand the BASIS for the Jeremiah/Tea-Tephi legend so eloquently penned by Herbert Armstrong. I also consulted primary and secondary sources on the Irish and Scottish annals.


To my surprise, I found that the British-Israelite books all REPEAT the same Tea-Tephi story (with slight variations), each aggressively claiming that the story is found in the ancient annals. In research no one have NOT FOUND a single British-Israelite book that actually gives a REFERENCE to WHERE in the Irish and Scottish annals the supporting material may be found! Armstrong's booklet does not -- nor does Joseph Allen's earlier book on the subject.
As also discovered by Greg Doudna (former Ambassador College student, now with the Department of Near Eastern Studies at Cornell University), "they all seem to draw from previous British-Israel writings.


They speak so confidently it sounds like there must be something in the annals to which they refer. The NAMES mentioned in the Tea-Tephi legend appear in the annals, true enough, but I have discovered they are TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSONS IN THE ANNALS than the British-Israel legend makes them out to be. The annals simply don't say what the British-Israel literature, or the Worldwide Church of God, SAY they say.

It is a LEGEND that someone somewhere within British-Israel circles began, stated it as fact, and it has been repeated as fact within British-Israel circles ever since, down to the present day in which the Worldwide Church of God repeats it to millions. It may make an interesting story, but IT IS COMPLETELY FABRICATED." ("Afterword on British-Israelism", p. 121).
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I have to ECHO Greg Doudna in his discoveries: There is absolutely NO FOUNDATION in the Irish and Scottish annals for the story of Jeremiah and Tea-Tephi! NONE of the dozens of British-Israelite books I have read give quotations from the annals themselves, or cite chapter and verse in the annals. They simply ASSERT, in a convincing style, that these things are so. Frankly, I was not aware how BASELESS these assertions were until I researched all the literature for myself. Who Was Ollam Fodla?


The key figure in Armstrong's story is, of course, Jeremiah the prophet. According to Worldwide Church of God historian Herman L. Hoeh, Jeremiah the prophet was known in Ireland by the name "Ollam Fodhla." (See "Compendium of World History", vol. I, p. 432). In Armstrong's booklet a similar connection is made; and British-Israelite theorists also claim this as fact. E. Raymond Capt in his book "Jacob's Pillar" makes the SAME assertion: "Many of the ancient Irish records, when making reference to an 'eastern king's daughter,' also mention an old man; 'a patriarch, a saint, a prophet,' called 'OLLAM FODHLA' ....Tradition asserts that Ollam Fodhla was none other than JEREMIAH, the prophet..." (Artisan Sales, Thousand Oaks, CA. 1977. P. 31).
[link to avocadoridge.com]



Let me state here and now that I have found NO SUCH TRADITION in the Irish annals!

To further solidify this identification of Jeremiah with the Irish Ollam Fodhla, E. Raymond Capt makes the following statement:

SOME authorities on Irish history have cited the Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland by the Four Masters (edited from MSS. in the Library of the Royal Academy and of Trinity College, Dublin translated by John O'Donovan, M.T.I.A.) as A LINK BETWEEN IRELAND AND JEREMIAH: "Ollam Fola (Foldha) is celebrated in ANCIENT HISTORY as a sage and legislator, eminent for learning, wisdom and excellent institutions, and his historic fame has been recognized by placing his medallion in 'basso relievo' with those of Moses and other great legislators in the interior of the dome of the Four Courts of Dublin....(Ibid., p. 41).

Excuse me! did I miss something here? I might be as blind as a bat in a Dublin fog but I saw no link between Ireland and Jeremiah in this passage! If that's all they can base their identification of Jeremiah on, then their whole theory is extremely tenuous!

[link to avocadoridge.com]

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 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Your copy and paste job is as lame as you are. The book of Tephi comes direct from the Irish annals and has nothing to do with Herbert Armstrong. It was written in old Gaelic and translated out of old Gaelic. It was written by Irish bards. Jeremiah is not mentioned by name but by title. The book alludes to him by titles which he represented. Also, the the knowledge and place names of ancient Israel prove it to be written by those who had deep knowledge of these places and most importantly, the prophecy in the book that I showed in my original thread on the book of Tea Tephi shows it is clearly inspired. So repent of your slander and lies you filthy chimp.
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Well Well where should I start? Well for starters cleaning up this comic book tale about some Tea Tephi. I was continually bombarded with harassment on this book and always brushed it aside,until last shabbat. I decided to look at the works and determine the source and accuracy of this legend of EUROPE. I was also intrigued by this Disneyland fairytale about Jeremiah the prophet going to Ireland and having a grave and some church.

I started reading the story and it was not just a story but a well fabricated story and a very sad one at that. I immediately started to dig up facts and authors and creators of this fable;I looked in encyclopedias for names of British institutions and universities keeping archives, Irish professors of historical facts and Archeology on this topic.

The information I got was all but so sparse as to make a case of authenticity.I was directed to HERBERT ARMSTRONG'S FICTIONAL LAUGHABLE DEPICTION OF BRITAIN AND THE UNITED STATES IN PROPHECY.This was the one that did it,I was amazed to see the corruption of scripture and again the promoting of a lies using Gods words to promote vain exaltation of a gentile nation promoting themselves as HEBREWS.



:jhhyytty:
"TEPHI"

According to Herbert Armstrong in the book "The United States and Britain in Prophecy," the prophet Jeremiah (in the company of his scribe Baruch) took King Zedekiah's daughter to Ireland where she founded a line of Davidic kings that has continued on down to this day. What corroborating evidence can be found in the Irish annals to back up this assertion? What FACTS can be gleaned from the ancient sources to show this compelling story to be true? Shocking as it may sound, there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER in either the Irish or the Scottish annals -- not even a TRACE of Jeremiah, Tea-Tephi and the ever-faithful Baruch! The TRUTH is, if Jeremiah ever brought Zedekiah's daughter to Ireland, it went TOTALLY UNNOTICED in the ancient Irish annals.

I went in and verified all the references in the following investigations using the books and reference documents pages and numbers and all do justify the falsehood of this tall tale.

THE TEPHI AND JEREMIAH STORY IS JUST ANOTHER LIE AND HOAX AS IS CHRISTMAS AND THE EASTER BUNNY! THIS STORY OF TEPHI IS THE TYPE OF FOLKLORE STORIES YOU HEAR AT HAPPY HOUR FRIDAY EVENINGS AT CONELLY'S "YOU WANT TO GO WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR NAME"lol

Please read on and form your conclusion because the biblele never had Jeremiah going to Ireland! and those scriptures of the siege JERUSALEM I will post from the book of baruch and Josephus the historian


THE INVESTIGATION AND FINDINGS



:fumblin:



As related by Herbert W. Armstrong in the booklet "The United states and Britain in Prophecy", the story of Jeremiah's journey to Ireland with a daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah comes to life under the author's pen: "The real ancient history of Ireland is very extensive, though colored with some legend. But with the facts of biblical history and prophecy in mind, one can easily sift out the legend from the true history in studying ancient Irish annals.

Throwing out that which is obviously legendary, we glean from various histories of Ireland the following: Long prior to 700 B.C. a strong colony called "Tuatha de Danaan" (tribe of Dan) arrived in ships, drove out other tribes, and settled there. Later, in the days of David, a colony of the line of Zarah arrived in Ireland from the Near East.
"Then, in 569 B.C. (date of Jeremiah's transplanting), an elderly, white-haired patriarch, sometimes referred to as a "saint," came to Ireland. With him was the princess daughter of an eastern king and a companion called "Simon Brach," spelled in different histories as Breck, Berech, Brach, or Berach.


The princess had a Hebrew name Tephi -- a pet name -- her full name being TEA-TEPHI.
"Modern literature of those who recognize our national identity has confused this Tea-Tephi, a daughter of Zedekiah, with an earlier Tea, a daughter of Ith, who lived in the days of David.


"This royal party included the son of the king of Ireland who had been in Jerusalem at the time of the siege. There he had become acquainted with Tea-Tephi. He married her shortly after 585 -- when the city fell. Their young son, now about 12 years of age, accompanied them to Ireland. Besides the royal family, Jeremiah brought with them some remarkable things, including a harp, AN ARK, and a wonderful STONE CALLED "LIA-FAIL," or "STONE OF DESTINY."
"....many kings in the history of Ireland, Scotland, and England have been coronated over this stone -- including the present queen. The stone rests today in Westminster Abbey in London, and the coronation chair is built over and around it. A sign beside it labels it "Jacob's pillar-stone" (Gen. 28:18).


"The royal husband of the Hebrew princess Tea was given the TITLE HERREMON upon ascending the throne of his father. This Herremon has usually been confused with a much earlier Gede the Herremon in David's day -- who married his uncle Ith's daughter Tea. The son of this later king Herremon and Hebrew princess continued on the throne of Ireland and THIS SAME DYNASTY CONTINUED UNBROKEN through all the kings of Ireland; was OVERTURNED and transplanted again in Scotland; again OVERTURNED and moved to London, England, where this same dynasty continues today in the reign of Queen Elizabeth II....


HERBERT ARMSTRONG XCERPT HILARIOUS ROFLMAO

"In view of the linking together of biblical history, prophecy, and Irish history, can anyone deny that this Hebrew princess was the daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah and therefore heir to the throne of David? That King Herremon was a descendant of Zarah, here married to the daughter of Pharez, healing the ancient breach? That when the throne of David was first overturned by Jeremiah, it was REPLANTED in Ireland, later overturned a second time and replanted in Scotland, overturned a third time and planted in London? When Christ returns to earth to sit on that throne, He shall take over a LIVE, EXISTING throne, not a nonexistent one (Luke 1:32)." -- 1980, Worldwide Church of God. Pp. 99-102.


FAKE ANOTHER PROOF OF IDENTITY THEFT

No References! In preparation for the writing of this article, and several others on the royal house of Britain, I searched out and read literally DOZENS of books written by British-Israelites in order to more accurately understand the BASIS for the Jeremiah/Tea-Tephi legend so eloquently penned by Herbert Armstrong. I also consulted primary and secondary sources on the Irish and Scottish annals.


To my surprise, I found that the British-Israelite books all REPEAT the same Tea-Tephi story (with slight variations), each aggressively claiming that the story is found in the ancient annals. In research no one have NOT FOUND a single British-Israelite book that actually gives a REFERENCE to WHERE in the Irish and Scottish annals the supporting material may be found! Armstrong's booklet does not -- nor does Joseph Allen's earlier book on the subject.
As also discovered by Greg Doudna (former Ambassador College student, now with the Department of Near Eastern Studies at Cornell University), "they all seem to draw from previous British-Israel writings.


They speak so confidently it sounds like there must be something in the annals to which they refer. The NAMES mentioned in the Tea-Tephi legend appear in the annals, true enough, but I have discovered they are TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSONS IN THE ANNALS than the British-Israel legend makes them out to be. The annals simply don't say what the British-Israel literature, or the Worldwide Church of God, SAY they say.

It is a LEGEND that someone somewhere within British-Israel circles began, stated it as fact, and it has been repeated as fact within British-Israel circles ever since, down to the present day in which the Worldwide Church of God repeats it to millions. It may make an interesting story, but IT IS COMPLETELY FABRICATED." ("Afterword on British-Israelism", p. 121).
[link to www.scribd.com]
English-Culture-1799-1917



I have to ECHO Greg Doudna in his discoveries: There is absolutely NO FOUNDATION in the Irish and Scottish annals for the story of Jeremiah and Tea-Tephi! NONE of the dozens of British-Israelite books I have read give quotations from the annals themselves, or cite chapter and verse in the annals. They simply ASSERT, in a convincing style, that these things are so. Frankly, I was not aware how BASELESS these assertions were until I researched all the literature for myself. Who Was Ollam Fodla?


The key figure in Armstrong's story is, of course, Jeremiah the prophet. According to Worldwide Church of God historian Herman L. Hoeh, Jeremiah the prophet was known in Ireland by the name "Ollam Fodhla." (See "Compendium of World History", vol. I, p. 432). In Armstrong's booklet a similar connection is made; and British-Israelite theorists also claim this as fact. E. Raymond Capt in his book "Jacob's Pillar" makes the SAME assertion: "Many of the ancient Irish records, when making reference to an 'eastern king's daughter,' also mention an old man; 'a patriarch, a saint, a prophet,' called 'OLLAM FODHLA' ....Tradition asserts that Ollam Fodhla was none other than JEREMIAH, the prophet..." (Artisan Sales, Thousand Oaks, CA. 1977. P. 31).
[link to avocadoridge.com]



Let me state here and now that I have found NO SUCH TRADITION in the Irish annals!

To further solidify this identification of Jeremiah with the Irish Ollam Fodhla, E. Raymond Capt makes the following statement:

SOME authorities on Irish history have cited the Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland by the Four Masters (edited from MSS. in the Library of the Royal Academy and of Trinity College, Dublin translated by John O'Donovan, M.T.I.A.) as A LINK BETWEEN IRELAND AND JEREMIAH: "Ollam Fola (Foldha) is celebrated in ANCIENT HISTORY as a sage and legislator, eminent for learning, wisdom and excellent institutions, and his historic fame has been recognized by placing his medallion in 'basso relievo' with those of Moses and other great legislators in the interior of the dome of the Four Courts of Dublin....(Ibid., p. 41).

Excuse me! did I miss something here? I might be as blind as a bat in a Dublin fog but I saw no link between Ireland and Jeremiah in this passage! If that's all they can base their identification of Jeremiah on, then their whole theory is extremely tenuous!

[link to avocadoridge.com]

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You seem mad. You mad? I know you're pissed off that I have exposed your delusions of grandeur and total fantasies about being black Hebrews but it is the will of my Father in heaven that I rebuke your lies and teach his real chosen people of their identity and heritage. Envy and covetousness are terrible things. You should repent. lol
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Please tell me the name of the person who took this picture of you, he's really good,

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Well Well where should I start? Well for starters cleaning up this comic book tale about some Tea Tephi. I was continually bombarded with harassment on this book and always brushed it aside,until last shabbat. I decided to look at the works and determine the source and accuracy of this legend of EUROPE. I was also intrigued by this Disneyland fairytale about Jeremiah the prophet going to Ireland and having a grave and some church.

I started reading the story and it was not just a story but a well fabricated story and a very sad one at that. I immediately started to dig up facts and authors and creators of this fable;I looked in encyclopedias for names of British institutions and universities keeping archives, Irish professors of historical facts and Archeology on this topic.

The information I got was all but so sparse as to make a case of authenticity.I was directed to HERBERT ARMSTRONG'S FICTIONAL LAUGHABLE DEPICTION OF BRITAIN AND THE UNITED STATES IN PROPHECY.This was the one that did it,I was amazed to see the corruption of scripture and again the promoting of a lies using Gods words to promote vain exaltation of a gentile nation promoting themselves as HEBREWS.



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"TEPHI"

According to Herbert Armstrong in the book "The United States and Britain in Prophecy," the prophet Jeremiah (in the company of his scribe Baruch) took King Zedekiah's daughter to Ireland where she founded a line of Davidic kings that has continued on down to this day. What corroborating evidence can be found in the Irish annals to back up this assertion? What FACTS can be gleaned from the ancient sources to show this compelling story to be true? Shocking as it may sound, there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER in either the Irish or the Scottish annals -- not even a TRACE of Jeremiah, Tea-Tephi and the ever-faithful Baruch! The TRUTH is, if Jeremiah ever brought Zedekiah's daughter to Ireland, it went TOTALLY UNNOTICED in the ancient Irish annals.

I went in and verified all the references in the following investigations using the books and reference documents pages and numbers and all do justify the falsehood of this tall tale.

THE TEPHI AND JEREMIAH STORY IS JUST ANOTHER LIE AND HOAX AS IS CHRISTMAS AND THE EASTER BUNNY! THIS STORY OF TEPHI IS THE TYPE OF FOLKLORE STORIES YOU HEAR AT HAPPY HOUR FRIDAY EVENINGS AT CONELLY'S "YOU WANT TO GO WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR NAME"lol

Please read on and form your conclusion because the biblele never had Jeremiah going to Ireland! and those scriptures of the siege JERUSALEM I will post from the book of baruch and Josephus the historian


THE INVESTIGATION AND FINDINGS



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As related by Herbert W. Armstrong in the booklet "The United states and Britain in Prophecy", the story of Jeremiah's journey to Ireland with a daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah comes to life under the author's pen: "The real ancient history of Ireland is very extensive, though colored with some legend. But with the facts of biblical history and prophecy in mind, one can easily sift out the legend from the true history in studying ancient Irish annals.

Throwing out that which is obviously legendary, we glean from various histories of Ireland the following: Long prior to 700 B.C. a strong colony called "Tuatha de Danaan" (tribe of Dan) arrived in ships, drove out other tribes, and settled there. Later, in the days of David, a colony of the line of Zarah arrived in Ireland from the Near East.
"Then, in 569 B.C. (date of Jeremiah's transplanting), an elderly, white-haired patriarch, sometimes referred to as a "saint," came to Ireland. With him was the princess daughter of an eastern king and a companion called "Simon Brach," spelled in different histories as Breck, Berech, Brach, or Berach.


The princess had a Hebrew name Tephi -- a pet name -- her full name being TEA-TEPHI.
"Modern literature of those who recognize our national identity has confused this Tea-Tephi, a daughter of Zedekiah, with an earlier Tea, a daughter of Ith, who lived in the days of David.


"This royal party included the son of the king of Ireland who had been in Jerusalem at the time of the siege. There he had become acquainted with Tea-Tephi. He married her shortly after 585 -- when the city fell. Their young son, now about 12 years of age, accompanied them to Ireland. Besides the royal family, Jeremiah brought with them some remarkable things, including a harp, AN ARK, and a wonderful STONE CALLED "LIA-FAIL," or "STONE OF DESTINY."
"....many kings in the history of Ireland, Scotland, and England have been coronated over this stone -- including the present queen. The stone rests today in Westminster Abbey in London, and the coronation chair is built over and around it. A sign beside it labels it "Jacob's pillar-stone" (Gen. 28:18).


"The royal husband of the Hebrew princess Tea was given the TITLE HERREMON upon ascending the throne of his father. This Herremon has usually been confused with a much earlier Gede the Herremon in David's day -- who married his uncle Ith's daughter Tea. The son of this later king Herremon and Hebrew princess continued on the throne of Ireland and THIS SAME DYNASTY CONTINUED UNBROKEN through all the kings of Ireland; was OVERTURNED and transplanted again in Scotland; again OVERTURNED and moved to London, England, where this same dynasty continues today in the reign of Queen Elizabeth II....


HERBERT ARMSTRONG XCERPT HILARIOUS ROFLMAO

"In view of the linking together of biblical history, prophecy, and Irish history, can anyone deny that this Hebrew princess was the daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah and therefore heir to the throne of David? That King Herremon was a descendant of Zarah, here married to the daughter of Pharez, healing the ancient breach? That when the throne of David was first overturned by Jeremiah, it was REPLANTED in Ireland, later overturned a second time and replanted in Scotland, overturned a third time and planted in London? When Christ returns to earth to sit on that throne, He shall take over a LIVE, EXISTING throne, not a nonexistent one (Luke 1:32)." -- 1980, Worldwide Church of God. Pp. 99-102.


FAKE ANOTHER PROOF OF IDENTITY THEFT

No References! In preparation for the writing of this article, and several others on the royal house of Britain, I searched out and read literally DOZENS of books written by British-Israelites in order to more accurately understand the BASIS for the Jeremiah/Tea-Tephi legend so eloquently penned by Herbert Armstrong. I also consulted primary and secondary sources on the Irish and Scottish annals.


To my surprise, I found that the British-Israelite books all REPEAT the same Tea-Tephi story (with slight variations), each aggressively claiming that the story is found in the ancient annals. In research no one have NOT FOUND a single British-Israelite book that actually gives a REFERENCE to WHERE in the Irish and Scottish annals the supporting material may be found! Armstrong's booklet does not -- nor does Joseph Allen's earlier book on the subject.
As also discovered by Greg Doudna (former Ambassador College student, now with the Department of Near Eastern Studies at Cornell University), "they all seem to draw from previous British-Israel writings.


They speak so confidently it sounds like there must be something in the annals to which they refer. The NAMES mentioned in the Tea-Tephi legend appear in the annals, true enough, but I have discovered they are TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSONS IN THE ANNALS than the British-Israel legend makes them out to be. The annals simply don't say what the British-Israel literature, or the Worldwide Church of God, SAY they say.

It is a LEGEND that someone somewhere within British-Israel circles began, stated it as fact, and it has been repeated as fact within British-Israel circles ever since, down to the present day in which the Worldwide Church of God repeats it to millions. It may make an interesting story, but IT IS COMPLETELY FABRICATED." ("Afterword on British-Israelism", p. 121).
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I have to ECHO Greg Doudna in his discoveries: There is absolutely NO FOUNDATION in the Irish and Scottish annals for the story of Jeremiah and Tea-Tephi! NONE of the dozens of British-Israelite books I have read give quotations from the annals themselves, or cite chapter and verse in the annals. They simply ASSERT, in a convincing style, that these things are so. Frankly, I was not aware how BASELESS these assertions were until I researched all the literature for myself. Who Was Ollam Fodla?


The key figure in Armstrong's story is, of course, Jeremiah the prophet. According to Worldwide Church of God historian Herman L. Hoeh, Jeremiah the prophet was known in Ireland by the name "Ollam Fodhla." (See "Compendium of World History", vol. I, p. 432). In Armstrong's booklet a similar connection is made; and British-Israelite theorists also claim this as fact. E. Raymond Capt in his book "Jacob's Pillar" makes the SAME assertion: "Many of the ancient Irish records, when making reference to an 'eastern king's daughter,' also mention an old man; 'a patriarch, a saint, a prophet,' called 'OLLAM FODHLA' ....Tradition asserts that Ollam Fodhla was none other than JEREMIAH, the prophet..." (Artisan Sales, Thousand Oaks, CA. 1977. P. 31).
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Let me state here and now that I have found NO SUCH TRADITION in the Irish annals!

To further solidify this identification of Jeremiah with the Irish Ollam Fodhla, E. Raymond Capt makes the following statement:

SOME authorities on Irish history have cited the Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland by the Four Masters (edited from MSS. in the Library of the Royal Academy and of Trinity College, Dublin translated by John O'Donovan, M.T.I.A.) as A LINK BETWEEN IRELAND AND JEREMIAH: "Ollam Fola (Foldha) is celebrated in ANCIENT HISTORY as a sage and legislator, eminent for learning, wisdom and excellent institutions, and his historic fame has been recognized by placing his medallion in 'basso relievo' with those of Moses and other great legislators in the interior of the dome of the Four Courts of Dublin....(Ibid., p. 41).

Excuse me! did I miss something here? I might be as blind as a bat in a Dublin fog but I saw no link between Ireland and Jeremiah in this passage! If that's all they can base their identification of Jeremiah on, then their whole theory is extremely tenuous!

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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