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| IAMIAM User ID: 18016289 02/03/2013 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simple. Those who seek a sign, are given the sign of Jonah, three days in the belly of a whale, or in this case, three days in the Tomb. Those who believed without seeking a sign saw many. |
| Aleph Tav (OP) User ID: 32836961 02/03/2013 02:43 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simple. Quoting: IAMIAM Those who seek a sign, are given the sign of Jonah, three days in the belly of a whale, or in this case, three days in the Tomb. Those who believed without seeking a sign saw many. Did Jesus perform many signs and wonders? And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. Sounds like a general statement to me,do not add conjecture and speculation the words are quite clear. REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85 |
| IAMIAM User ID: 18016289 02/03/2013 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simple. Quoting: IAMIAM Those who seek a sign, are given the sign of Jonah, three days in the belly of a whale, or in this case, three days in the Tomb. Those who believed without seeking a sign saw many. Did Jesus perform many signs and wonders? And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. Sounds like a general statement to me,do not add conjecture and speculation the words are quite clear. Then see what YOU want to see, and don't ask others what they see if you will so easily discount it. |
| Aleph Tav (OP) User ID: 32836961 02/03/2013 02:51 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simple. Quoting: IAMIAM Those who seek a sign, are given the sign of Jonah, three days in the belly of a whale, or in this case, three days in the Tomb. Those who believed without seeking a sign saw many. Did Jesus perform many signs and wonders? And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. Sounds like a general statement to me,do not add conjecture and speculation the words are quite clear. Then see what YOU want to see, and don't ask others what they see if you will so easily discount it. You are trying to rewrite scripture: Jesus didn't say or even imply that those who seek a sign are given the sign of Jonah but on the other hand those who seek a sign and believe are given many signs. Jesus gave a genral statement that his entire generation "pre-first century" would not be given any sign. And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. Last Edited by Aleph Tav on 02/03/2013 02:52 PM REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85 |
| IAMIAM User ID: 18016289 02/03/2013 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simple. Quoting: IAMIAM Those who seek a sign, are given the sign of Jonah, three days in the belly of a whale, or in this case, three days in the Tomb. Those who believed without seeking a sign saw many. Did Jesus perform many signs and wonders? And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. Sounds like a general statement to me,do not add conjecture and speculation the words are quite clear. Then see what YOU want to see, and don't ask others what they see if you will so easily discount it. You are trying to rewrite scripture: Jesus didn't say or even imply that those who seek a sign are given the sign of Jonah but on the other hand those who seek a sign and believe are given many signs. Jesus gave a genral statement that his entire generation "pre-first century" would not be given any sign. And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. You asked a question, I answered your question, you did not receive the answer you wanted, so I will take my answer and leave you be. |
| Aleph Tav (OP) User ID: 32836961 02/03/2013 04:19 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Aleph Tav Did Jesus perform many signs and wonders? And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. Sounds like a general statement to me,do not add conjecture and speculation the words are quite clear. Then see what YOU want to see, and don't ask others what they see if you will so easily discount it. You are trying to rewrite scripture: Jesus didn't say or even imply that those who seek a sign are given the sign of Jonah but on the other hand those who seek a sign and believe are given many signs. Jesus gave a genral statement that his entire generation "pre-first century" would not be given any sign. And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. You asked a question, I answered your question, you did not receive the answer you wanted, so I will take my answer and leave you be. You are not answering the question I asked. You are forcing your opinion of what Jesus said instead of what he actually said. In essence you recreate your own view and put words in his mouth and you only back it up with your own conjecture and bias. Please focus on what the text actually says. Stop dancing around the question Did Jesus perform many signs and wonders to his generation or no signs and wonders to his generation? And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. Last Edited by Aleph Tav on 02/03/2013 04:22 PM REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85 |
| Lisa*Lisa User ID: 21057428 02/03/2013 04:26 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus performed many miracles during His lifetime. He healed the sick, raised the dead, and others. He revealed Himself and His power in front of the people. However, when questioned by His enemies, the religious leaders (Pharisees).......He told them to get lost, beat it, He wasn't going to "prove" anything to them because He knew their hearts were hard. Jesus wasn't stupid.........He knew the deal. This is the answer to your question. Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com ____________________________ "If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." "If the mountain were smooth, you couldn't climb it." "Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ ____________________________ A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com] _____________________________ 2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me." |
| Aleph Tav (OP) User ID: 32836961 02/03/2013 04:30 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus performed many miracles during His lifetime. He healed the sick, raised the dead, and others. He revealed Himself and His power in front of the people. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa However, when questioned by His enemies, the religious leaders (Pharisees).......He told them to get lost, beat it, He wasn't going to "prove" anything to them because He knew their hearts were hard. Jesus wasn't stupid.........He knew the deal. This is the answer to your question. Matthew 12:39, 16:4 An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. Mark 8:12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. Luke 11:29 This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. In some sense your answer satisfies but Jesus used the general ("this" and "generation" )in the original Greek referring to his entire generation resting any apologetic notions that he only meant the Pharisees. Last Edited by Aleph Tav on 02/03/2013 04:32 PM REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85 |
| Lisa*Lisa User ID: 21057428 02/03/2013 04:32 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus performed many miracles during His lifetime. He healed the sick, raised the dead, and others. He revealed Himself and His power in front of the people. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa However, when questioned by His enemies, the religious leaders (Pharisees).......He told them to get lost, beat it, He wasn't going to "prove" anything to them because He knew their hearts were hard. Jesus wasn't stupid.........He knew the deal. This is the answer to your question. Matthew 12:39, 16:4 An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. Mark 8:12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. Luke 11:29 This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. In some sense your answer satisfies but Jesus used the general ("this" and "generation" )in the original Greek referring to his entire generation resting any apologetic notions that he only meant the Pharisees. I knew you would reject the answer, the truth. I don't know why I bothered. Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com ____________________________ "If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." "If the mountain were smooth, you couldn't climb it." "Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ ____________________________ A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com] _____________________________ 2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me." |
| Aleph Tav (OP) User ID: 32836961 02/03/2013 04:37 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus performed many miracles during His lifetime. He healed the sick, raised the dead, and others. He revealed Himself and His power in front of the people. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa However, when questioned by His enemies, the religious leaders (Pharisees).......He told them to get lost, beat it, He wasn't going to "prove" anything to them because He knew their hearts were hard. Jesus wasn't stupid.........He knew the deal. This is the answer to your question. Matthew 12:39, 16:4 An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. Mark 8:12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. Luke 11:29 This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. In some sense your answer satisfies but Jesus used the general ("this" and "generation" )in the original Greek referring to his entire generation resting any apologetic notions that he only meant the Pharisees. I knew you would reject the answer, the truth. I don't know why I bothered. Oh well ,fair enough, at least someone else competent can answer my question instead of the likes of you who revel in your piety you self righteous "holier than thou" bigot. Last Edited by Aleph Tav on 02/04/2013 05:45 AM REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85 |
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