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Turning Wine into Water

 
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I Told you in the beginning that I am not doing anything.

YOU give these words power,

and they have driven you Mad.


So here, You fix your ailments.

I have given you enough.

Now Walk.
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The wedding at Cana happened, but read with the mind of Christ, it is also a parable.

I think the Lord did not want to turn the water into wine is that He didn't want His people to be drunk in the Spirit..to be out trying to do His work without a prayer covering.

It is probable that this is what has occurred to the original poster. Those who feel led to pray for him should do so.

The war in the heavenlies is intense. In these last days, because of the intensity of last day's evil, I urge all Christians to have someone pray for the praying person. Pray for anyone you ask to pray for you or someone else..that God would protect him and empower his prayers. This is very necessary and very powerful
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The wedding at Cana happened, but read with the mind of Christ, it is also a parable.

I think the Lord did not want to turn the water into wine is that He didn't want His people to be drunk in the Spirit..to be out trying to do His work without a prayer covering.

It is probable that this is what has occurred to the original poster. Those who feel led to pray for him should do so.

The war in the heavenlies is intense. In these last days, because of the intensity of last day's evil, I urge all Christians to have someone pray for the praying person. Pray for anyone you ask to pray for you or someone else..that God would protect him and empower his prayers. This is very necessary and very powerful
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Look up.

By your own words, you saw water.
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IAMIAM, do not be troubled - I understood what you were saying. Love being filmed with the intention to sell it for money is not love, it is an imitation bathed in the spirit of satan, and those who partake in it are his followers. Love being expressed physically was meant to be experienced in a place of sanctity, not public observation. Love cannot be falsely imitated, and when some attempt to, what transpires is truly something unclean and wicked.

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"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.
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IAMIAM, do not be troubled - I understood what you were saying. Love being filmed with the intention to sell it for money is not love, it is an imitation bathed in the spirit of satan, and those who partake in it are his followers. Love being expressed physically was meant to be experienced in a place of sanctity, not public observation. Love cannot be falsely imitated, and when some attempt to, what transpires is truly something unclean and wicked.
 Quoting: Rising Son


That is not what I was saying at all.

When I lay my Woman down, it could be under the Stars, on a beach, in a car, under a water fall, in the middle of a nuclear detonation!

That is between me, my woman, and God.

And if I am blessed with a Harem, you better believe my many women will be treated better than most treat their one.

When I first met my woman, I looked her in her eyes,

I said, I have nothing to offer you but this rebels heart.


Bro., you wouldn't even understand.

Because you're fake.

But I love you anyway.

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I AM the ONE who speaks.

No ONE speaks for me.
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IAMIAM, do not be troubled - I understood what you were saying. Love being filmed with the intention to sell it for money is not love, it is an imitation bathed in the spirit of satan, and those who partake in it are his followers. Love being expressed physically was meant to be experienced in a place of sanctity, not public observation. Love cannot be falsely imitated, and when some attempt to, what transpires is truly something unclean and wicked.
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Stupid simple man who claim to no it all,can't you see you been used as a devil dog as he referred to you earlier.If you will spend more time in prayer instaed of debates you will not be fooled and playing kiss up to this one
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I see I am no longer welcome in your temple. I will show myself out, and thank you for your time.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.
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I see I am no longer welcome in your temple. I will show myself out, and thank you for your time.
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you been played and I laugh and mock becuase you think you are the authority. you been made a fool and like he said of you you are his devil dog
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I see I am no longer welcome in your temple. I will show myself out, and thank you for your time.
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stay in your masters temple don't come back and post on other peoples thread! hypocrite! Master been tagging you along all day as you begged to do wonderful works with him together..
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Thank you for guiding me here, my friend. I offer you my friendship and love as your spiritual brother. Yours and my stories are almost identical, and for that reason, I would say that we are destined to do great things together. I am still in Japan, but I will be coming home within the next few weeks, so I hope to meet with you in person.
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here we go lol
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The deal is…we are to Glorify God, in everything we do, not ourselves . We are to help gather for Jesus Christ wherever we can.

The Whole point of us being here is we were once there…we were promised great knowledge if we were disobedient to God…..surely we would not die? How many of your great great great great great grand parents are still living…….?

The Guy claiming to change wine into water……not possible for him to do it. Why? Because Jesus Christ did not perform one miracle, not one. But yet someone here claims to be able to do that? Really… Jesus Christ was here to demonstrate obedience towards God. He let God his Father be the Author and doer of any miracles. Why? Because Jesus Christ told us to Glorify God and help him gather. Anything else is scattering.


The following are the words of the Truth;

Anyone who is not for me is really against me; anyone who does not help me gather is really scattering.
(Mat 12:30)


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choruschoruschorus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7111119


You provide a sound argument my friend.

However, you are discounting my original post. I made clear, very clear, who I am here to glorify.

Can you not see in whose name I come?

If you saw the miracle, who would get the glory?

Who is the One?
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Been there done that......nothing to prove...'

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I see I am no longer welcome in your temple. I will show myself out, and thank you for your time.
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:jackass:
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I see I am no longer welcome in your temple. I will show myself out, and thank you for your time.
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:jackass:
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The deal is…we are to Glorify God, in everything we do, not ourselves . We are to help gather for Jesus Christ wherever we can.

The Whole point of us being here is we were once there…we were promised great knowledge if we were disobedient to God…..surely we would not die? How many of your great great great great great grand parents are still living…….?

The Guy claiming to change wine into water……not possible for him to do it. Why? Because Jesus Christ did not perform one miracle, not one. But yet someone here claims to be able to do that? Really… Jesus Christ was here to demonstrate obedience towards God. He let God his Father be the Author and doer of any miracles. Why? Because Jesus Christ told us to Glorify God and help him gather. Anything else is scattering.


The following are the words of the Truth;

Anyone who is not for me is really against me; anyone who does not help me gather is really scattering.
(Mat 12:30)


Find out about God's "Life After Death" insurance policy...it is FREE to make you FREE, it cost nothing...$$$

4 Books are the instruction manual to life....they are titled;
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John or the four Gospels of Jesus Christ.

[link to www.e-sword.net] use the GNB or Good News Bible....those 4 books are in this book. goodnews

choruschoruschorus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7111119


You provide a sound argument my friend.

However, you are discounting my original post. I made clear, very clear, who I am here to glorify.

Can you not see in whose name I come?

If you saw the miracle, who would get the glory?

Who is the One?
 Quoting: IAMIAM


NOT YOU....... Give all glory to God and go fishing whenever and wherever you can for Jesus Christ.

Yikes, we are sons of God...adopted.....there is One begotten.....no corruption of Jesus Christ's gene pool, thus he is God's Son..not adopted. We are still his brother as he is ours. God is in us as we are in God, God's Spirit dwells in us.

But all Glory and Honor goes to God. Why? Jesus Tells us;

I gave them the same glory you gave me, so that they may be one, just as you and I are one:
(John 17:22)

He never boasted as you do.....about miracles.....he just did them...
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The deal is…we are to Glorify God, in everything we do, not ourselves . We are to help gather for Jesus Christ wherever we can.

The Whole point of us being here is we were once there…we were promised great knowledge if we were disobedient to God…..surely we would not die? How many of your great great great great great grand parents are still living…….?

The Guy claiming to change wine into water……not possible for him to do it. Why? Because Jesus Christ did not perform one miracle, not one. But yet someone here claims to be able to do that? Really… Jesus Christ was here to demonstrate obedience towards God. He let God his Father be the Author and doer of any miracles. Why? Because Jesus Christ told us to Glorify God and help him gather. Anything else is scattering.


The following are the words of the Truth;

Anyone who is not for me is really against me; anyone who does not help me gather is really scattering.
(Mat 12:30)


Find out about God's "Life After Death" insurance policy...it is FREE to make you FREE, it cost nothing...$$$

4 Books are the instruction manual to life....they are titled;
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John or the four Gospels of Jesus Christ.

[link to www.e-sword.net] use the GNB or Good News Bible....those 4 books are in this book. goodnews

choruschoruschorus
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You provide a sound argument my friend.

However, you are discounting my original post. I made clear, very clear, who I am here to glorify.

Can you not see in whose name I come?

If you saw the miracle, who would get the glory?

Who is the One?
 Quoting: IAMIAM


NOT YOU....... Give all glory to God and go fishing whenever and wherever you can for Jesus Christ.

Yikes, we are sons of God...adopted.....there is One begotten.....no corruption of Jesus Christ's gene pool, thus he is God's Son..not adopted. We are still his brother as he is ours. God is in us as we are in God, God's Spirit dwells in us.

But all Glory and Honor goes to God. Why? Jesus Tells us;

I gave them the same glory you gave me, so that they may be one, just as you and I are one:
(John 17:22)

He never boasted as you do.....about miracles.....he just did them...
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My record is here for all to see.

I have never claimed to be Jesus.

I have made it clear to those

who still have eyes to see.


The blind can stumble over themselves into the Pit.
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propoganda
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The deal is…we are to Glorify God, in everything we do, not ourselves . We are to help gather for Jesus Christ wherever we can.

The Whole point of us being here is we were once there…we were promised great knowledge if we were disobedient to God…..surely we would not die? How many of your great great great great great grand parents are still living…….?

The Guy claiming to change wine into water……not possible for him to do it. Why? Because Jesus Christ did not perform one miracle, not one. But yet someone here claims to be able to do that? Really… Jesus Christ was here to demonstrate obedience towards God. He let God his Father be the Author and doer of any miracles. Why? Because Jesus Christ told us to Glorify God and help him gather. Anything else is scattering.


The following are the words of the Truth;

Anyone who is not for me is really against me; anyone who does not help me gather is really scattering.
(Mat 12:30)


Find out about God's "Life After Death" insurance policy...it is FREE to make you FREE, it cost nothing...$$$

4 Books are the instruction manual to life....they are titled;
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John or the four Gospels of Jesus Christ.

[link to www.e-sword.net] use the GNB or Good News Bible....those 4 books are in this book. goodnews

choruschoruschorus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7111119


You provide a sound argument my friend.

However, you are discounting my original post. I made clear, very clear, who I am here to glorify.

Can you not see in whose name I come?

If you saw the miracle, who would get the glory?

Who is the One?
 Quoting: IAMIAM


NOT YOU....... Give all glory to God and go fishing whenever and wherever you can for Jesus Christ.

Yikes, we are sons of God...adopted.....there is One begotten.....no corruption of Jesus Christ's gene pool, thus he is God's Son..not adopted. We are still his brother as he is ours. God is in us as we are in God, God's Spirit dwells in us.

But all Glory and Honor goes to God. Why? Jesus Tells us;

I gave them the same glory you gave me, so that they may be one, just as you and I are one:
(John 17:22)

He never boasted as you do.....about miracles.....he just did them...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


My record is here for all to see.

I have never claimed to be Jesus.

I have made it clear to those

who still have eyes to see.


The blind can stumble over themselves into the Pit.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Where exactly are you helping gather? Where are you glorifying God?

You are speaking in the First person......as the Christ it seems?

So if you are going to act as if, why do you not steer people to God and the Word of Jesus Christ?

Simple.....why not mention folks only need believe in Jesus Christ and they have ever lasting life. Why not mention it is not by our works but be Gods grace and mercy that we are? It is through God's mercy and grace that allows one to be justified and sanctified. That is so NO ONE can boast of doing anything....it is all from God. Lastly why not speak of being born of the Spirit because of God's grace and mercy not by mans works.

Have you not noticed all the messianic threads and folks claiming to be Jesus Christ......don't you see the paradox and the trend. In this case the trend is not your friend.
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The deal is…we are to Glorify God, in everything we do, not ourselves . We are to help gather for Jesus Christ wherever we can.

The Whole point of us being here is we were once there…we were promised great knowledge if we were disobedient to God…..surely we would not die? How many of your great great great great great grand parents are still living…….?

The Guy claiming to change wine into water……not possible for him to do it. Why? Because Jesus Christ did not perform one miracle, not one. But yet someone here claims to be able to do that? Really… Jesus Christ was here to demonstrate obedience towards God. He let God his Father be the Author and doer of any miracles. Why? Because Jesus Christ told us to Glorify God and help him gather. Anything else is scattering.


The following are the words of the Truth;

Anyone who is not for me is really against me; anyone who does not help me gather is really scattering.
(Mat 12:30)


Find out about God's "Life After Death" insurance policy...it is FREE to make you FREE, it cost nothing...$$$

4 Books are the instruction manual to life....they are titled;
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John or the four Gospels of Jesus Christ.

[link to www.e-sword.net] use the GNB or Good News Bible....those 4 books are in this book. goodnews

choruschoruschorus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7111119


You provide a sound argument my friend.

However, you are discounting my original post. I made clear, very clear, who I am here to glorify.

Can you not see in whose name I come?

If you saw the miracle, who would get the glory?

Who is the One?
 Quoting: IAMIAM


NOT YOU....... Give all glory to God and go fishing whenever and wherever you can for Jesus Christ.

Yikes, we are sons of God...adopted.....there is One begotten.....no corruption of Jesus Christ's gene pool, thus he is God's Son..not adopted. We are still his brother as he is ours. God is in us as we are in God, God's Spirit dwells in us.

But all Glory and Honor goes to God. Why? Jesus Tells us;

I gave them the same glory you gave me, so that they may be one, just as you and I are one:
(John 17:22)

He never boasted as you do.....about miracles.....he just did them...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


My record is here for all to see.

I have never claimed to be Jesus.

I have made it clear to those

who still have eyes to see.


The blind can stumble over themselves into the Pit.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


How can you be so foolish! You began by God's Spirit; do you now want to finish by your own power?
(Gal 3:3)
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This is why people prefer the No-Body, the NoBody just is and just does.....


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Your contract is almost up demon.


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Wow...that was really harsh.


Do you feel you have judged this person properly Kathryn?

After having reflected on it for awhile, do you feel you acted judiciously? Or was it reflecting emotion and fear in your judgement.

:scales:
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yes, do you have to put your nose where it never belongs?
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Now am I against viewing the natural act of Love between two or more people?

Not at all.

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Do you mean sex with 3 or more people?

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Why not?

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As in an orgy?

In my mind, sex and the marriage bond is sacred and personal. I am my beloved's and he is mine. Our sex is not for display or adultery.

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Let me point something out to both of you Serpents!

You brought the Wine of Fornication into MY Temple.

I did not bring it.

YOU brought it.



What is before you?
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this man brought it into the temple, I asked what he thought,and he thinks nothing is wrong with fornication.
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Your contract is almost up demon.


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Wow...that was really harsh.


Do you feel you have judged this person properly Kathryn?

After having reflected on it for awhile, do you feel you acted judiciously? Or was it reflecting emotion and fear in your judgement.

:scales:
 Quoting: Seer777


stop pretending as though you can read people, because you can't. You should'nt speak if you do not know.

Judgement is coming whether you wan't it or not Seer.
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this person using GOD's name is calling me a serpent.
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I notice you do that to me alot Seer, why is that?whiphmm
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I notice you do that to me alot Seer, why is that?whiphmm
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Because I find you have tendency to be emotionally reactive occasionally. Calling another a demon I find to be quite uncouth.

Your perception regarding pornography is not his. That however, does not make him a 'demon'. To call one as such, is a trigger to everyone who reads it, to feel the emotion triggered by that word on command.

By calling him that, you created fear for others based on your fears of his differing view on pornography.

Your judgement was more based on emotion rather than merit.

I hope you can see that.


hf
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I notice you do that to me alot Seer, why is that?whiphmm
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Because I find you have tendency to be emotionally reactive occasionally. Calling another a demon I find to be quite uncouth.

Your perception regarding pornography is not his. That however, does not make him a 'demon'. To call one as such, is a trigger to everyone who reads it, to feel the emotion triggered by that word on command.

By calling him that, you created fear for others based on your fears of his differing view on pornography.

Your judgement was more based on emotion rather than merit.

I hope you can see that.


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


and that is your perception.

You get on many peoples nerves here. I hear it alot.

stop sticking your nose where it is none of your buisness. If I wan't your advice, I will ask for it. Go chase an elephant, you are good at that.

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Faith to me is having left the sanctuaries of men and their theology, and to come out from among them that dance around a golden calf, by the making of their own hands, entrusting completely and without reserve to God within.

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Look at the ships also, though they are so great and are driven by strong winds, are still directed by a very small rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot desires.
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I notice you do that to me alot Seer, why is that?whiphmm
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Because I find you have tendency to be emotionally reactive occasionally. Calling another a demon I find to be quite uncouth.

Your perception regarding pornography is not his. That however, does not make him a 'demon'. To call one as such, is a trigger to everyone who reads it, to feel the emotion triggered by that word on command.

By calling him that, you created fear for others based on your fears of his differing view on pornography.

Your judgement was more based on emotion rather than merit.

I hope you can see that.


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


and that is your perception.

You get on many peoples nerves here. I hear it alot.

stop sticking your nose where it is none of your buisness. If I wan't your advice, I will ask for it.
 Quoting: Newheart


Of course.

As will each person reading these words make their own judgement accordingly whether you acted appropriately or not. Given the evidence of your claims.

To each ones own...


You need to recognize the power of your own ripple.

And where it goes...

theripples


Also, this is a public forum, and I will go as I please.

As will you.


Good luck to you.

hf

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