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How about making a list of opinions for me - so that I can make sure that I agree with them to avoid being labeled a "shill".....


moronic isn't it??

seems to me you want to CREATE shills... for yourself.. lol
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Well, I guess they were trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Suppose you are just a fucktard then.
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how old are you 5?
do you have anger management issues?
did your parents used to whip your ass and you need therapy?
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How about making a list of opinions for me - so that I can make sure that I agree with them to avoid being labeled a "shill".....


moronic isn't it??

seems to me you want to CREATE shills... for yourself.. lol
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Well, I guess they were trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Suppose you are just a fucktard then.
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funny how people with aggression issues seem to love cats.. smh
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What's the catch?
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you guys have no idea how change works-- when you are resistant to change its way more painful - than surviving a few inconveniences and working towards it being better.

And since most of you are quite satisfied with the way things are - like the fact we pay for water-air-and electricity - all of which CAN BE FREE.....

yea - its going to be more painful for you.
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Sounds like an MSNBC (WH) talking point.

Just go along to get along....

If we'd done that we'd have gone full TU totalitarian 30 years ago.
Not another lousy foreign actor in the White House - Liam Neeson 2016! A foreign actor you can believe in.
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Well said, Prof. X. Why do so many innovators, whether they be programmers, scientists, or whatever like to create these powerful gadgets and then simply hand them over to the govt. or some other powerful entity to then possibly be used against them in the future? Then, when power and finance is centralized the ptb can decide which of your projects gets funding. And if the project gets funded they get to take it from you as soon as its done and possibly use it against you. Why do you build your own cage? Why do you create the tools of your own slavery & demise? Freedom is a friend to the innovators out there. Recognize before it's too late.
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I am a lamp programmer- PHP/MySQL - ASP.NET - Sharepoint - CCNA - A+ - NET+ - with over 12 years experience. I teach lamp programming for free at a community center- and I have been saving for a year to open my own bootcamp for young adults...

does that look fraudulent????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24208912


I left out jQuery (javascript) Ruby ... CSS3 - HTML5
...
and my husband is a DBA - thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24208912


My apologies for calling you fraudulent.
I've been in the IT field for almost 2 decades, and I've never encountered a programmer with such a naive, suicidal attitude toward government.

I simply assumed, based on statistical evidence, that you were as full of shit about your vocation as you are about the threat of giving government even more control of communications.

Sorry for that assumption. You're unique.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


My attitude isn't about gov - its about my spirituality - I have faith that whatever plan the 'gov' has - gods plan is greater...

i also know in order for it to get better - it often needs to get worse...especially when everything is so screwed up to begin with.

And because I work with kids who can benefit from free internet - im all for it...

i apologize for having my own perspective.
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Yeah, that's what those assholes said 20 years ago when broadband first came out.

They're fucking liars.
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This also sounds, to me at least, like an electromagnetic field NIGHTMARE.

As if it's not bad enough as it is.
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The federal government wants to create super WiFi networks across the nation, so powerful and broad in reach that consumers could use them to make calls or surf the Internet without paying a cellphone or internet bill every month.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

Goodbye Time Warner Cable, comcast, AT&T, VERIZON, etc!

I hope it happens! Thoughts?
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Is this for real? I guess taxes have gone to worse things, all doom aside. The whole kill switch thing kind of sucks though.
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And because I work with kids who can benefit from free internet - im all for it...

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Wow, free?!

Awesome. I didn't realize you were supporting free Internet.

I thought you were supporting taxpayer-funded government-controlled Internet, where money is taken from people who earn it by being useful in their fields, and given to parasites who have no actual value in order to implement something that they know nothing about and will completely ruin, like what this thread is discussing.

Can you point me to a link regarding this free Internet?

This is exciting!
Thanks in advance!

hf
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Just curious.

Do you feel you hold any personal responsibility as being one who props up such a crooked and malevolent government?

It's almost like you're proud of it.
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And because I work with kids who can benefit from free internet - im all for it...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24208912


Wow, free?!

Awesome. I didn't realize you were supporting free Internet.

I thought you were supporting taxpayer-funded government-controlled Internet, where money is taken from people who earn it by being useful in their fields, and given to parasites who have no actual value in order to implement something that they know nothing about and will completely ruin, like what this thread is discussing.

Can you point me to a link regarding this free Internet?

This is exciting!
Thanks in advance!

hf
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


In my county the garbage fees are taken out of our property taxes - and everyone renters included - have "free" trash removal...

As a homeowner - I don't have any issues with that....

Yes we all pay it forward on something.... and if you are gracious enough - you get it back and then some...
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you guys have no idea how change works-- when you are resistant to change its way more painful - than surviving a few inconveniences and working towards it being better.

And since most of you are quite satisfied with the way things are - like the fact we pay for water-air-and electricity - all of which CAN BE FREE.....

yea - its going to be more painful for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24208912


Sounds like an MSNBC (WH) talking point.

Just go along to get along....

If we'd done that we'd have gone full TU totalitarian 30 years ago.
 Quoting: Crazy Harriet


That's right.
Anyone who hesitates about giving the incompetent, self-serving, corrupt evil state more power, is a nutcase.
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But that's exactly what you're doing by going along and paying into it.
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The federal government wants to create super WiFi networks across the nation, so powerful and broad in reach that consumers could use them to make calls or surf the Internet without paying a cellphone or internet bill every month.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

Goodbye Time Warner Cable, comcast, AT&T, VERIZON, etc!

I hope it happens! Thoughts?
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Is this for real? I guess taxes have gone to worse things, all doom aside. The whole kill switch thing kind of sucks though.
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Do you really think Obamanet servers would allow you to visit Breitbart.com?
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Considering they are already trying to block you from going there by using Google Chrome and classifying the site (and others) as a MALWARE SITES...

...that answer becomes obvious.

spock

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This also sounds, to me at least, like an electromagnetic field NIGHTMARE.

As if it's not bad enough as it is.
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The concentration of transmitter/receivers on tall
buildings puts inhabitants at risk.
Those with clear fields are desireable for multiple installations.. more leases, more money.
Lots of cellphones to cover.

I don't see this situation improving with ubiquitous WI-FI.
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And because I work with kids who can benefit from free internet - im all for it...

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Wow, free?!

Awesome. I didn't realize you were supporting free Internet.

I thought you were supporting taxpayer-funded government-controlled Internet, where money is taken from people who earn it by being useful in their fields, and given to parasites who have no actual value in order to implement something that they know nothing about and will completely ruin, like what this thread is discussing.

Can you point me to a link regarding this free Internet?

This is exciting!
Thanks in advance!

hf
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


Just curious.

Do you feel you hold any personal responsibility as being one who props up such a crooked and malevolent government?

It's almost like you're proud of it.
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You've asked a question based on a false premise.

If you'd like to ask a question that is not based on a false premise, I'd be happy to answer it for you.

And what does your non-sequitur question have to do with my post?
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Just that you deride all the "parasites" by making the argument that it's better to be on the side that pays and supports the other parasites, the ones that don't give a fuck about you or your family and kill and maim in your name.

I would much rather be a parasite than support this government with one more penny.

It just doesn't make any sense.
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And because I work with kids who can benefit from free internet - im all for it...

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Wow, free?!

Awesome. I didn't realize you were supporting free Internet.

I thought you were supporting taxpayer-funded government-controlled Internet, where money is taken from people who earn it by being useful in their fields, and given to parasites who have no actual value in order to implement something that they know nothing about and will completely ruin, like what this thread is discussing.

Can you point me to a link regarding this free Internet?

This is exciting!
Thanks in advance!

hf
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In my county the garbage fees are taken out of our property taxes - and everyone renters included - have "free" trash removal...

As a homeowner - I don't have any issues with that....

Yes we all pay it forward on something.... and if you are gracious enough - you get it back and then some...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24208912


What total dollar amount, or percentage of my income is considered "gracious enough"?

Still, I'd like that link to "free" Internet you mentioned.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


tax- payer subsidized internet...

just like we subsidize every other luxury we so love to enjoy...

look we really don't have to have internet all

there are plenty of people out there who have contributed to the usefulness and enjoyment of the internet - who probably in one form or fashion have benefited from some publicly funded program that received funds from YOU

the universe is strange like that- believe it...
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Wow, free?!

Awesome. I didn't realize you were supporting free Internet.

I thought you were supporting taxpayer-funded government-controlled Internet, where money is taken from people who earn it by being useful in their fields, and given to parasites who have no actual value in order to implement something that they know nothing about and will completely ruin, like what this thread is discussing.

Can you point me to a link regarding this free Internet?

This is exciting!
Thanks in advance!

hf
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


Just curious.

Do you feel you hold any personal responsibility as being one who props up such a crooked and malevolent government?

It's almost like you're proud of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33674751


You've asked a question based on a false premise.

If you'd like to ask a question that is not based on a false premise, I'd be happy to answer it for you.

And what does your non-sequitur question have to do with my post?
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Just that you deride all the "parasites" by making the argument that it's better to be on the side that pays and supports the other parasites, the ones that don't give a fuck about you or your family and kill and maim in your name.

I would much rather be a parasite than support this government with one more penny.

It just doesn't make any sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33674751


I mean, on one hand you attack our government, rightly, almost on a daily basis, and in the same breath, defend your position as a supporter of this government as somehow righteous.

Again, it just doesn't make any sense.

So waiting on people to walk the walk.
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Thread: paper links voltage potentials and cancer


Hmmm...




Biologists at Tufts University School of Arts and Sciences have discovered a bioelectric signal that can identify cells that are likely to develop into tumors. The researchers also found that they could lower the incidence of cancerous cells by manipulating the electrical charge across cells' membranes.
"The news here is that we've established a bioelectric basis for the early detection of cancer," says Brook Chernet, doctoral student and the first author of a newly published research paper co-authored with Michael Levin, Ph.D., professor of biology and director of the Center for Regenerative and Developmental Biology.
Levin notes, "We've shown that electric events tell the cells what to do. The voltage changes are not merely a sign of cancer.They control and direct whether the cancer occurs or not."
Their paper, "Transmembrane Voltage Potential is an Essential Cellular Parameter for the Detection and Control of Tumor Development" will be published in the May 2013 issue of "Disease Models and Mechanisms" (available online on February 1).

[link to www.mdtmag.com]
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Just curious.

Do you feel you hold any personal responsibility as being one who props up such a crooked and malevolent government?

It's almost like you're proud of it.
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You've asked a question based on a false premise.

If you'd like to ask a question that is not based on a false premise, I'd be happy to answer it for you.

And what does your non-sequitur question have to do with my post?
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Just that you deride all the "parasites" by making the argument that it's better to be on the side that pays and supports the other parasites, the ones that don't give a fuck about you or your family and kill and maim in your name.

I would much rather be a parasite than support this government with one more penny.

It just doesn't make any sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33674751


I mean, on one hand you attack our government, rightly, almost on a daily basis, and in the same breath, defend your position as a supporter of this government as somehow righteous.

Again, it just doesn't make any sense.

So waiting on people to walk the walk.
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I would much rather be a parasite than support this government with one more penny.

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I am neither a parasite, nor do I support this government.

But it's not because I live in my mom's basement, like you do.
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You're way off man.

But you do in fact, monetarily support this government.

Denial is not appropriate here, you've already admitted it.
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I want my free internet. U can pay if u like. I don't do anything anyway so I why should i fear?
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You nutcase. You want a free internet, do you?
You go ahead and get it.
When they buzz your internet in the morning to see what a comrade is up to, DEAL WITH IT.
You deserve it.
You think I'm way out there on the edge?
Just wait and see!
SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY!

I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour.

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I would much rather be a parasite than support this government with one more penny.

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I am neither a parasite, nor do I support this government.

But it's not because I live in my mom's basement, like you do.
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I'll take a basement dweller, who has taken a stand for something, ANYDAY over someone who monetarily supports a known malevolent government, with glee.
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I would much rather be a parasite than support this government with one more penny.

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I am neither a parasite, nor do I support this government.

But it's not because I live in my mom's basement, like you do.
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I'll take a basement dweller, who has taken a stand for something, ANYDAY over someone who monetarily supports a known malevolent government, with glee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33674751


You seem quite dense.
He already stated he does not support it.....and that is also obvious from any number of thread posts over many weeks past.


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I want my free internet. U can pay if u like. I don't do anything anyway so I why should i fear?
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You nutcase. You want a free internet, do you?
You go ahead and get it.
When they buzz your internet in the morning to see what a comrade is up to, DEAL WITH IT.
You deserve it.
You think I'm way out there on the edge?
Just wait and see!
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As if they're not watching your every move already.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I would much rather be a parasite than support this government with one more penny.

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I am neither a parasite, nor do I support this government.

But it's not because I live in my mom's basement, like you do.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


I'll take a basement dweller, who has taken a stand for something, ANYDAY over someone who monetarily supports a known malevolent government, with glee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33674751


You seem quite dense.
He already stated he does not support it.....and that is also obvious from any number of thread posts over many weeks past.


:crayon:
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But he in fact does support it. By working.

Are you claiming he doesn't hold a job and pays endless taxes to prop up this government?
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I would much rather be a parasite than support this government with one more penny.

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I am neither a parasite, nor do I support this government.

But it's not because I live in my mom's basement, like you do.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


I'll take a basement dweller, who has taken a stand for something, ANYDAY over someone who monetarily supports a known malevolent government, with glee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33674751


You seem quite dense.
He already stated he does not support it.....and that is also obvious from any number of thread posts over many weeks past.


:crayon:
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Try to keep up.
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I am neither a parasite, nor do I support this government.

But it's not because I live in my mom's basement, like you do.
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I'll take a basement dweller, who has taken a stand for something, ANYDAY over someone who monetarily supports a known malevolent government, with glee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33674751


You seem quite dense.
He already stated he does not support it.....and that is also obvious from any number of thread posts over many weeks past.


crayon
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But he in fact does support it. By working.

Are you claiming he doesn't hold a job and pays endless taxes to prop up this government?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33674751


False and retarded argument....AT BEST. grnrolleyes
When you have a legit and real argument based on REALITY....please DO let us know.....mmm kay?

dumbpeeps
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Yeah, that is not gonna happen.

Obvious reasons being:
This would be covered by increasing taxes.
Corporations will fight this tooth and nail.


This is what they should do:

Provide free internet through Wi-Fi. <1Mb
Buy internet from local service provider. >1Mb

Honestly, it baffles me that this model hasn't been applied yet.

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Yeah, that is not gonna happen.

Obvious reasons being:
This would be covered by increasing taxes.
Corporations will fight this tooth and nail.


This is what they should do:

Provide free internet through Wi-Fi. <1Mb
Buy internet from local service provider. >1Mb

Honestly, it baffles me that this model hasn't been applied yet.
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its already happening - google will have the world wi-fied up in a minute....
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I'll take a basement dweller, who has taken a stand for something, ANYDAY over someone who monetarily supports a known malevolent government, with glee.
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You seem quite dense.
He already stated he does not support it.....and that is also obvious from any number of thread posts over many weeks past.


:crayon:
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But he in fact does support it. By working.

Are you claiming he doesn't hold a job and pays endless taxes to prop up this government?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33674751


False and retarded argument....AT BEST. :grnrolleyes:
When you have a legit and real argument based on REALITY....please DO let us know.....mmm kay?

:dumbpeeps:
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False because you say so? lol

Is that what you tell yourself so you can sleep at night?

If people stopped working all at once we could destroy and replace this government overnight.

That is a FACT!

Just because you work and support this gov and feel guilty about it, doesn't mean it's a moot point.
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Yeah, that is not gonna happen.

Obvious reasons being:
This would be covered by increasing taxes.
Corporations will fight this tooth and nail.


This is what they should do:

Provide free internet through Wi-Fi. <1Mb
Buy internet from local service provider. >1Mb

Honestly, it baffles me that this model hasn't been applied yet.
 Quoting: Psych


It was supposed to be that way 20 years ago too with broadband.

They lied and spent the money elsewhere.

News