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Army Command: Six Israeli warplanes violated the Lebanese airspace and overflew all Lebanese regions
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Army Command: Six Israeli warplanes violated the Lebanese airspace and overflew all Lebanese regions
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NNA - Lebanon agency - confirmed
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Army Command: Six Israeli warplanes violated the Lebanese airspace and overflew all Lebanese regions
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[link to www.naharnet.com]
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What Is Really Going On In Syria: Insider Update

by Boris Dolgov

In this article Boris Dolgov, a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Institute of Oriental Studies in Moscow, reports on his recent trip to Syria. His field investigation is particularly valuable since most of the information about Syria in recent months has emanated from Beirut, Paris or London. Professor Dolgov confirms that, far from a contrived "Arab Spring" scenario, Syria is undeniably grappling with the threat of foreign occupation. He observes that while the offensive is inordinately violent, the population will not be intimidated. Aware of the disaster wrought by NATO "humanitarian" operations in Yugoslavia and Libya, the Syrians refuse to be drawn into a sectarian ambush. A process of reform and development is on track, but it will not be dictated from abroad. In Syria, one may object to the president, but not to national sovereignty.

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Sorry but Israeli jets frequently violate Lebanon's airspace. It's hardly news...even if Doorknob wants to say a war is happening soon.

How can a sovereign country tolerate its airspace being violated frequently? How can a sovereign country tolerate a military strike inside it's country? Without retaliation each time. Only reports to UN, sometimes, which are filed away in the 10's of thousands of other reports against Israel.

Ponder that for a moment and think for a second how Israel, UK, France or the US would react if it was the other way around.

Maybe they're just trying to provoke a retaliation, which they would spin as a first strike of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33543798


LOL, more Egyptian imbecility & hatred for "Ebbyl Juices".

1) Like Syria, Israel and Lebanon are still technically at war, Lebanon doesn't even "recognize" Israel whatever that means, LOL.... you may have forgotten about that.

2) Lebanonese government looked the other way for decades as terrorists -- first Arafat's Fatahland then Amal, Islamic Jihad & Hezzbollah were TERRORIZING Israel population with artillery, rockets & cross-border attacks. All incidents of deliberately targeting civilian population are instances of a war-crime according to international law --- and we're talking literally 1000 different attacks over the years.

3) Morever, even after the passage of UNSC Resolution 1701 -- an Article VII resolution may I remind you, which makes it both compulsory & enforceable unlike say Article VIII resolution 242 which is merely a glorified "recommendation" by the UN..... far from dis-arming Hzbollah as per 1701, both Iranian, Lebanese AND Syrian governments all but turned South Lebanon into Missile Mecca. And UNIFIL look the other way, as per usual.

4) In light of the outrageously hostile & illegal activities by its enemies I briefly addressed above.....Israel conducts a few surveilance over-flights? Cry me a river, LMAO!
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Sorry but Israeli jets frequently violate Lebanon's airspace. It's hardly news...even if Doorknob wants to say a war is happening soon.

How can a sovereign country tolerate its airspace being violated frequently? How can a sovereign country tolerate a military strike inside it's country? Without retaliation each time. Only reports to UN, sometimes, which are filed away in the 10's of thousands of other reports against Israel.

Ponder that for a moment and think for a second how Israel, UK, France or the US would react if it was the other way around.

Maybe they're just trying to provoke a retaliation, which they would spin as a first strike of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33543798


LOL, more Egyptian imbecility & hatred for "Ebbyl Juices".

1) Like Syria, Israel and Lebanon are still technically at war, Lebanon doesn't even "recognize" Israel whatever that means, LOL.... you may have forgotten about that.

2) Lebanonese government looked the other way for decades as terrorists -- first Arafat's Fatahland then Amal, Islamic Jihad & Hezzbollah were TERRORIZING Israel population with artillery, rockets & cross-border attacks. All incidents of deliberately targeting civilian population are instances of a war-crime according to international law --- and we're talking literally 1000 different attacks over the years.

3) Morever, even after the passage of UNSC Resolution 1701 -- an Article VII resolution may I remind you, which makes it both compulsory & enforceable unlike say Article VIII resolution 242 which is merely a glorified "recommendation" by the UN..... far from dis-arming Hzbollah as per 1701, both Iranian, Lebanese AND Syrian governments all but turned South Lebanon into Missile Mecca. And UNIFIL look the other way, as per usual.

4) In light of the outrageously hostile & illegal activities by its enemies I briefly addressed above.....Israel conducts a few surveilance over-flights? Cry me a river, LMAO!
 Quoting: ASV 13885129


Israel will soon be invading Lebanon and annexing it as their own territory.
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Monday sucks! tounge
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Monday sucks! tounge
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yeh, somebody check the books and see if anyone has
ever started a war on a monday: we could be beating a dead piece of chopped liver here.
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Many parts of Damascus without electricity. Assailants attacked the transformers.
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if it was up to me you would have nato and israel do about 50 000 sorties and take out all terrorist related targets in lebanon,syria and iran...
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Sorry but Israeli jets frequently violate Lebanon's airspace. It's hardly news...even if Doorknob wants to say a war is happening soon.

How can a sovereign country tolerate its airspace being violated frequently? How can a sovereign country tolerate a military strike inside it's country? Without retaliation each time. Only reports to UN, sometimes, which are filed away in the 10's of thousands of other reports against Israel.

Ponder that for a moment and think for a second how Israel, UK, France or the US would react if it was the other way around.

Maybe they're just trying to provoke a retaliation, which they would spin as a first strike of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33543798


LOL, more Egyptian imbecility & hatred for "Ebbyl Juices".

1) Like Syria, Israel and Lebanon are still technically at war, Lebanon doesn't even "recognize" Israel whatever that means, LOL.... you may have forgotten about that.

2) Lebanonese government looked the other way for decades as terrorists -- first Arafat's Fatahland then Amal, Islamic Jihad & Hezzbollah were TERRORIZING Israel population with artillery, rockets & cross-border attacks. All incidents of deliberately targeting civilian population are instances of a war-crime according to international law --- and we're talking literally 1000 different attacks over the years.

3) Morever, even after the passage of UNSC Resolution 1701 -- an Article VII resolution may I remind you, which makes it both compulsory & enforceable unlike say Article VIII resolution 242 which is merely a glorified "recommendation" by the UN..... far from dis-arming Hzbollah as per 1701, both Iranian, Lebanese AND Syrian governments all but turned South Lebanon into Missile Mecca. And UNIFIL look the other way, as per usual.

4) In light of the outrageously hostile & illegal activities by its enemies I briefly addressed above.....Israel conducts a few surveilance over-flights? Cry me a river, LMAO!
 Quoting: ASV 13885129


Israel will soon be invading Lebanon and annexing it as their own territory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


Israel doesn't give a flyin Ron Paul about Lebanon, ya dimwit.

Even the old, typically conspiratorial Arab excuse about "Ebbyl Juice want to drink all of Litani water".... isn't even used anymore because even dumb Arabs understand that Israel has greatly increasing its own fresh-water aquifiers, uses inventive water-conservation techniques like drip-irrigation & by constructing things like de-salinations plants, rehabilitating Jordan River from decades of Muslim polution... Israel not only doesn't need Litani, within a few years, it is projected to become water-exporter.

But please people, by all means let's regurgitate hysterical Muslim propaganda.

Poor Hezbollah, who have sworn to destroy every last Jew after "liberating" Palestine (note: Palestine, not Lebanon) and who effectively represent the interests of Iran, not even their own Lebanese people..... So yeah, poor Hezbollah, big bad Israel is over-flying its missile launchers, C&C bunkers, arms depots literally hidden in Lebanese villages --- all in contravention of international law & UNIFIL policy, incidentlaly....

hahahah, love it!
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if it was up to me you would have nato and israel do about 50 000 sorties and take out all terrorist related targets in lebanon,syria and iran...
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abombabombabomb

dance

choruschorus
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oh, and don't forget, destroying all of the nuke facilities in Pakistan too :)
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Sorry but Israeli jets frequently violate Lebanon's airspace. It's hardly news...even if Doorknob wants to say a war is happening soon.

How can a sovereign country tolerate its airspace being violated frequently? How can a sovereign country tolerate a military strike inside it's country? Without retaliation each time. Only reports to UN, sometimes, which are filed away in the 10's of thousands of other reports against Israel.

Ponder that for a moment and think for a second how Israel, UK, France or the US would react if it was the other way around.

Maybe they're just trying to provoke a retaliation, which they would spin as a first strike of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33543798


LOL, more Egyptian imbecility & hatred for "Ebbyl Juices".

1) Like Syria, Israel and Lebanon are still technically at war, Lebanon doesn't even "recognize" Israel whatever that means, LOL.... you may have forgotten about that.

2) Lebanonese government looked the other way for decades as terrorists -- first Arafat's Fatahland then Amal, Islamic Jihad & Hezzbollah were TERRORIZING Israel population with artillery, rockets & cross-border attacks. All incidents of deliberately targeting civilian population are instances of a war-crime according to international law --- and we're talking literally 1000 different attacks over the years.

3) Morever, even after the passage of UNSC Resolution 1701 -- an Article VII resolution may I remind you, which makes it both compulsory & enforceable unlike say Article VIII resolution 242 which is merely a glorified "recommendation" by the UN..... far from dis-arming Hzbollah as per 1701, both Iranian, Lebanese AND Syrian governments all but turned South Lebanon into Missile Mecca. And UNIFIL look the other way, as per usual.

4) So in light of the outrageously hostile & illegal activities by its enemies I briefly addressed above.....Israel conducts a few surveilance over-flights? Cry me a river, LMAO!
 Quoting: ASV 13885129


What's the matter, asorted big mouths & artless cut-n-paste monkeys who whine about Israel harmless overflights while overlooking egregious, mass-scale violations against Israeli civilians for years/decades.... cat got your tongues?

I thought so.

Facts tend to do that, versus baseless Muslim propaganda talking-points.
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we could do all that in one afternoon. and then, there would
truly be Peace on Earth.

cheer
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if it was up to me you would have nato and israel do about 50 000 sorties and take out all terrorist related targets in lebanon,syria and iran...
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bsflag
Why would they bomb their own terrorists dumb ass.
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howcome no videos with screaming wounded and bod parts flying all over?

BORING!
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howcome no videos with screaming wounded and bod parts flying all over?

BORING!
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yeh. WW2 was the last really good War...
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A state that completely rubbles its 5000 year old Capital, in order to kill off a portion of its population, is evidently a very weak state. It has not respect for itself, because it has not power to back up that respect. Its rhetoric is a death-rattle.

Syria simply does not have the power to retaliate. Neither does Iran. Both rely on Russia, they are Russia's vassal states, but Russia is not strong enough to protect its vassals against Israel and the US Military Industrial Complex.

If it were, it would be happy to engage in a new Cold War. But it is currently only in the beginning phase of re-programming its population.

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“In practice we always base our preparations against an enemy on the assumption that his plans are good; indeed, it is right to rest our hopes not on a belief in his blunders, but on the soundness of our provisions. Nor ought we to believe that there is much difference between man and man, but to think that the superiority lies with him who is reared in the severest school.” - Thucydides

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A state that completely rubbles its 5000 year old Capital, in order to kill off a portion of its population, is evidently a very weak state. It has not respect for itself, because it has not power to back up that respect. Its rhetoric is a death-rattle.

Syria simply does not have the power to retaliate. Neither does Iran. Both rely on Russia, they are Russia's vassal states, but Russia is not strong enough to protect its vassals against Israel and the US Military Industrial Complex.

If it were, it would be happy to engage in a new Cold War. But it is currently only in the beginning phase of re-programming its population.
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yes, it's true: Putin hasn't got 2 sticks he can rub together to make fire.
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A state that completely rubbles its 5000 year old Capital, in order to kill off a portion of its population, is evidently a very weak state. It has not respect for itself, because it has not power to back up that respect. Its rhetoric is a death-rattle.

Syria simply does not have the power to retaliate. Neither does Iran. Both rely on Russia, they are Russia's vassal states, but Russia is not strong enough to protect its vassals against Israel and the US Military Industrial Complex.

If it were, it would be happy to engage in a new Cold War. But it is currently only in the beginning phase of re-programming its population.
 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


Huh? Even by typical conspiracy forum standards, your drivel makes no sense.

Syria is extremely well-armed and Iran is even more so. Syria alone has 1000 tons of V/X, Sarin (including Saddam's WMD, incidentally). A huge air-force & Air-defense layouts that even rebels couldn't fully degrade in 2 years of fightnig...plus, 1000's of armour & artillery pieces, plus arsenal of Scud C&D, more accurate M600 missiles... not to mention, access to sophisticated Iranian, Russian & Chinese equiipment, including I am sure latest satellite, elint, siginit, humint, etc intel.

The REASON it doesn't retaliate is because

1) it has nothing to retaliate for. There is NO proof Israel did anything, only speculation. Arabs/Muslims/AntiSemites see Jews under every pillow, but falls woefully short of, you know, actual evidence.

2) the usual "Ebbyl Juices blablabla" rhetoric aside...even Syrian scumbags know deep that Israel is the GOOD guys of the region. Muslims are far, far more likely to be killed, tortured, robbed by OTHER Muslims, than by Israelis. They know it deep down, too. Truth talks, while bullshit walks.

3) Syria retaliates, both it and its boss Iran end up on fire. So that's why they like to have terrorists like Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, PRC, PFLP do their bidding -- for deniability, or so they *think*.
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Amos Yadlin says the Islamic Republic has completed all the necessary components for building a nuclear weapon, adds that Western diplomacy could delay creation of bomb by two years.

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I hope Syrian military can blow one of the Israel jet fighters.
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1) Like Syria, Israel and Lebanon are still technically at war, Lebanon doesn't even "recognize" Israel whatever that means, LOL.... you may have forgotten about that.

 Quoting: ASV 13885129

You need a stated news release unless it is one of those defensive per-emptive strikes.

Would you also not have to be able to cite some reference to the articles of modern warfare to be able to declare something legal or not?

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I hope Syrian military can blow one of the Israel jet fighters.
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Easy there Phillipines.

I know everyone in your neck of the woods older than 10 is expected to be able to drop to the knees & embrace the dong i exchange for a "Best Dad in the World" t-shirt....

But I would like to think Syrian military has more class & discipline than to blow stranger jets. Not in this day and age.
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I hope Syrian military can blow one of the Israel jet fighters.
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So now you're switching to whining about legality -- when all this time it's been about alleged "morality"... LOL.

1) Prove it was Israel first.

2) Toss my salad.
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1) Like Syria, Israel and Lebanon are still technically at war, Lebanon doesn't even "recognize" Israel whatever that means, LOL.... you may have forgotten about that.

 Quoting: ASV 13885129

You need a stated news release unless it is one of those defensive per-emptive strikes.

Would you also not have to be able to cite some reference to the articles of modern warfare to be able to declare something legal or not?

[link to avalon.law.yale.edu]
 Quoting: MHz


So now you're switching to whining about legality -- when all this time it's been about alleged "morality"... LOL.

1) Prove it was Israel first.

2) Toss my salad.
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I hope Syrian military can blow one of the Israel jet fighters.
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As it stands it would seem to give Syria the right (obligation even) to update it's defenses to a degree that the put travel on public roads under the rules of Martial Law and the have a system that is able to prevent attacks from the air as well as via the roads.

Be worth clearing things up like if the incoming missile cannot be intercepted is taking out the launch location a universal 'plan b' option that would be upheld in the ICC as 'legal'.
If Israel lost 6/6 on a similar raid 6 months down the road would Israel say the sites seemed to be secure enough and leave it at that? Going bezerk might not be wise at that stage either.
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I hope Syrian military can blow one of the Israel jet fighters.
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As it stands it would seem to give Syria the right (obligation even) to update it's defenses to a degree that the put travel on public roads under the rules of Martial Law and the have a system that is able to prevent attacks from the air as well as via the roads.

Be worth clearing things up like if the incoming missile cannot be intercepted is taking out the launch location a universal 'plan b' option that would be upheld in the ICC as 'legal'.
If Israel lost 6/6 on a similar raid 6 months down the road would Israel say the sites seemed to be secure enough and leave it at that? Going bezerk might not be wise at that stage either.
 Quoting: MHz


Ya silly moose, I don't think you understand it yet. But don't worry, you will. The trio of mega-stooges on Soros payroll -- Ehud Olmert, Amir Peretz, Tsipi Livni -- are long gone.

The rules have changed. Neither Hamas, Hezbollah, nor Syria nor especially Iran will be permitted -- P-E-R-M-I-T-T-E-D -- to place anything in the region that endangers Israeli's interests, military or otherwise.

Ask Stephen Harper. He will explain this to you.
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