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BREAKING: Israeli jets flying over Lebanon. MONDAY UPDATES

 
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thanks as usual boku!
seems like it's a calm day until now..looks like Israeli jets flying over Lebanon is a normal thing now
 Quoting: Ger_reG


yes normal. Hezbollah no response
 Quoting: boku82


Hezbollah only move when Iran tells them to
 Quoting: RoganDorn


Yeah no shizzle.

So much for Hezzies being all about Lebnanon and Palestinians ---> when Hamas was getting its ass whipped in either 2008/09 or in 2012, despite its earlier promises not to tolerate Zionmist aggression, Hezbollah elected to sit the fuck down & shut the f&ck up.

And all this mock-outrage & crocodile tears over ALLEGED Israeli over-flights.... apparently Hezbollah not really keen on Lebanese people, either.

Unless monkeys in Iran give the green light.
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Israeli citizens speculate that Hezbollah as well as Hamas deliberately aim their missiles away from serious civilian centers, because they know that Israeli retaliation will be much more serious when they actually succeed in doing real damage.

The veil is perhaps beginning to be pierced. The muslim countries cannot keep order, in an age of information. The western leaderships have been trained to deal with public dissent since the invention of the printing press (read Chomsky on "The Manufacture of Consent") where the Muslim world has simply banned the principle of free expression altogether.

It was a matter of time before it began to collapse.
 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


What I was saying 35 years ago is beginning to happen. We had the printing press, the industrial revolution, the enlightenment. Islam didn't. They never had a Martin Luther nailing his stuff to the door of the church. One day the light will go off over some muslims head and things will begin to change. You cannot beat back evolution.
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Israeli citizens speculate that Hezbollah as well as Hamas deliberately aim their missiles away from serious civilian centers, because they know that Israeli retaliation will be much more serious when they actually succeed in doing real damage.

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 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


Oh yeah, I am sure that's it

**world's biggest eye-roll**


(last engagement alone, Iron Dome intercepted some 450 rockets heading smack-dab into Israeli cities... nevermind the Gaza jihadis favourite tactic of literally timing their salvos with Israeli elementary schools opening/closing, presumably so as to maximize the chance of killing an "Ebbyl Juiceling"... I suppose that school bus shot with Russian Kornet anti-tank missile in 2011 was also an indicatiion of how humane terrorists are)
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We got a poster claiming CNN now has someone reporting live out of Damascus. Anyone else seen/heard this?

Thread: Damascus ready to fall.
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We got a poster claiming CNN now has someone reporting live out of Damascus. Anyone else seen/heard this?

Thread: Damascus ready to fall.
 Quoting: Newshunter


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Israeli citizens speculate that Hezbollah as well as Hamas deliberately aim their missiles away from serious civilian centers, because they know that Israeli retaliation will be much more serious when they actually succeed in doing real damage.

The veil is perhaps beginning to be pierced. The muslim countries cannot keep order, in an age of information. The western leaderships have been trained to deal with public dissent since the invention of the printing press (read Chomsky on "The Manufacture of Consent") where the Muslim world has simply banned the principle of free expression altogether.

It was a matter of time before it began to collapse.
 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


What I was saying 35 years ago is beginning to happen. We had the printing press, the industrial revolution, the enlightenment. Islam didn't. They never had a Martin Luther nailing his stuff to the door of the church. One day the light will go off over some muslims head and things will begin to change. You cannot beat back evolution.
 Quoting: BioReaper


Whatever.

Nobody will - nor should have to - wait for the malodorous Mohammadans to get their act together.

It's either "join the civilized world, moderate, moderate & mature"... or else.
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Syrian Minister of Defense: terrorists (rebels) attacked a Syrian Air Force bases and air defense systems under the leadership of Israel
 Quoting: boku82


1) Proof? Not obtained under torture or duress, either-- inadmissible in court.

2) That's what you assholes deserve for waging wars & supporting terror against Israel since before it even became a state. Too bad so sad, momos.
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Israeli citizens speculate that Hezbollah as well as Hamas deliberately aim their missiles away from serious civilian centers, because they know that Israeli retaliation will be much more serious when they actually succeed in doing real damage.

The veil is perhaps beginning to be pierced. The muslim countries cannot keep order, in an age of information. The western leaderships have been trained to deal with public dissent since the invention of the printing press (read Chomsky on "The Manufacture of Consent") where the Muslim world has simply banned the principle of free expression altogether.

It was a matter of time before it began to collapse.
 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


What I was saying 35 years ago is beginning to happen. We had the printing press, the industrial revolution, the enlightenment. Islam didn't. They never had a Martin Luther nailing his stuff to the door of the church. One day the light will go off over some muslims head and things will begin to change. You cannot beat back evolution.
 Quoting: BioReaper


Agreed.
However seeing how things are developing right now we're going to see a last offensive of Islam on its own people. Given there are a billion people under control of this religion its going to last a while. Maybe as long as it took us to get out of the iron fist of christianity.

There Islamic lore saying that, when the men with the slit eyes from the east gain power, the end of days is near.

They think that an gigantic moster will gobble up all the oceans and then all the land. I think it will be somewhat different, but the end seems to be approaching .
“In practice we always base our preparations against an enemy on the assumption that his plans are good; indeed, it is right to rest our hopes not on a belief in his blunders, but on the soundness of our provisions. Nor ought we to believe that there is much difference between man and man, but to think that the superiority lies with him who is reared in the severest school.” - Thucydides

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Israeli citizens speculate that Hezbollah as well as Hamas deliberately aim their missiles away from serious civilian centers, because they know that Israeli retaliation will be much more serious when they actually succeed in doing real damage.

.
 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


Oh yeah, I am sure that's it

**world's biggest eye-roll**


(last engagement alone, Iron Dome intercepted some 450 rockets heading smack-dab into Israeli cities... nevermind the Gaza jihadis favourite tactic of literally timing their salvos with Israeli elementary schools opening/closing, presumably so as to maximize the chance of killing an "Ebbyl Juiceling"... I suppose that school bus shot with Russian Kornet anti-tank missile in 2011 was also an indicatiion of how humane terrorists are)
 Quoting: ASV 13885129


Just quoting Israeli citizens.
And it's not humaneness that was supposed to be their incentive for missing (not saying you're wrong, again just citing), but the fear that Israel may completely and justly obliterate them.

If what you say is true what I cite is bullshit.
“In practice we always base our preparations against an enemy on the assumption that his plans are good; indeed, it is right to rest our hopes not on a belief in his blunders, but on the soundness of our provisions. Nor ought we to believe that there is much difference between man and man, but to think that the superiority lies with him who is reared in the severest school.” - Thucydides

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Israeli citizens speculate that Hezbollah as well as Hamas deliberately aim their missiles away from serious civilian centers, because they know that Israeli retaliation will be much more serious when they actually succeed in doing real damage.

The veil is perhaps beginning to be pierced. The muslim countries cannot keep order, in an age of information. The western leaderships have been trained to deal with public dissent since the invention of the printing press (read Chomsky on "The Manufacture of Consent") where the Muslim world has simply banned the principle of free expression altogether.

It was a matter of time before it began to collapse.
 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


You just blew my mind. It makes all too much sense.
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Israeli citizens speculate that Hezbollah as well as Hamas deliberately aim their missiles away from serious civilian centers, because they know that Israeli retaliation will be much more serious when they actually succeed in doing real damage.

.
 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


Oh yeah, I am sure that's it

**world's biggest eye-roll**


(last engagement alone, Iron Dome intercepted some 450 rockets heading smack-dab into Israeli cities... nevermind the Gaza jihadis favourite tactic of literally timing their salvos with Israeli elementary schools opening/closing, presumably so as to maximize the chance of killing an "Ebbyl Juiceling"... I suppose that school bus shot with Russian Kornet anti-tank missile in 2011 was also an indicatiion of how humane terrorists are)
 Quoting: ASV 13885129


Just quoting Israeli citizens.
And it's not humaneness that was supposed to be their incentive for missing (not saying you're wrong, again just citing), but the fear that Israel may completely and justly obliterate them.

If what you say is true what I cite is bullshit.
 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


people under attack often have semi-mystical beliefs in the accuracy of enemy targeting -- it gives them an illusion that it's all understandable.
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Israeli citizens speculate that Hezbollah as well as Hamas deliberately aim their missiles away from serious civilian centers, because they know that Israeli retaliation will be much more serious when they actually succeed in doing real damage.

The veil is perhaps beginning to be pierced. The muslim countries cannot keep order, in an age of information. The western leaderships have been trained to deal with public dissent since the invention of the printing press (read Chomsky on "The Manufacture of Consent") where the Muslim world has simply banned the principle of free expression altogether.

It was a matter of time before it began to collapse.
 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


You just blew my mind. It makes all too much sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32809780



I agree, too, good diagnosis.

The problem is only timing.

Today there is too much wild power in the hands of wild people, and that beast will not surrender without using all the power it can manage.
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That is why it is of supreme importance to not let Iran have the bomb, and why (I think) the US is in Pakistan (under the guise of interest in Afghanistan).

It is too bad if they blow themselves up, as they are happily doing, but we have to contain the fire to where it is lit.

Israel is instrumental there. It's the front line, I commend every Israeli for his/her bravery to stand in the middle of that hellzone. But I understand the rewards for Jews to finally have their own state and not be subject to routine genocide is worth it.

No doubt a lot of bravery among citizens of muslim nations as well, but that's all killed off before it gets the chance of getting out.

Last Edited by Ray 1 Operative on 02/04/2013 05:04 PM
“In practice we always base our preparations against an enemy on the assumption that his plans are good; indeed, it is right to rest our hopes not on a belief in his blunders, but on the soundness of our provisions. Nor ought we to believe that there is much difference between man and man, but to think that the superiority lies with him who is reared in the severest school.” - Thucydides

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people under attack often have semi-mystical beliefs in the accuracy of enemy targeting -- it gives them an illusion that it's all understandable.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Could be. Like I said if this school-targeting is happening, what I cited is crap. Just testing the premise.

As a journalist I was once toured around by Hezbollah. I know they're sick enough, as they stopped the truck every 200 meters at another billboard of a young kid who had blown himself up in a suicide attack. So I could take a picture. They expected me to admire the shit out of all that dignity.
“In practice we always base our preparations against an enemy on the assumption that his plans are good; indeed, it is right to rest our hopes not on a belief in his blunders, but on the soundness of our provisions. Nor ought we to believe that there is much difference between man and man, but to think that the superiority lies with him who is reared in the severest school.” - Thucydides

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Good article over at Washington Post. It looks like Assad is still holding back his most loyal combatants in reserve. He still has some firepower left it appears (not much, but some) -



Doctors who work in military hospitals report that most casualties are from the regular army, “which indicates that the regime is still keeping the 8k to 12k Republican Guards as last resort,” the report says.


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Good article over at Washington Post. It looks like Assad is still holding back his most loyal combatants in reserve. He still has some firepower left it appears (not much, but some) -



Doctors who work in military hospitals report that most casualties are from the regular army, “which indicates that the regime is still keeping the 8k to 12k Republican Guards as last resort,” the report says.


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 Quoting: Newshunter

An obvious tactic. Assad wants to stay alive himself, he can not use up all his military to try to subdue the country.
“In practice we always base our preparations against an enemy on the assumption that his plans are good; indeed, it is right to rest our hopes not on a belief in his blunders, but on the soundness of our provisions. Nor ought we to believe that there is much difference between man and man, but to think that the superiority lies with him who is reared in the severest school.” - Thucydides

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Israeli citizens speculate that Hezbollah as well as Hamas deliberately aim their missiles away from serious civilian centers, because they know that Israeli retaliation will be much more serious when they actually succeed in doing real damage.

.
 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


Oh yeah, I am sure that's it

**world's biggest eye-roll**


(last engagement alone, Iron Dome intercepted some 450 rockets heading smack-dab into Israeli cities... nevermind the Gaza jihadis favourite tactic of literally timing their salvos with Israeli elementary schools opening/closing, presumably so as to maximize the chance of killing an "Ebbyl Juiceling"... I suppose that school bus shot with Russian Kornet anti-tank missile in 2011 was also an indicatiion of how humane terrorists are)
 Quoting: ASV 13885129


Just quoting Israeli citizens.
And it's not humaneness that was supposed to be their incentive for missing (not saying you're wrong, again just citing), but the fear that Israel may completely and justly obliterate them.

If what you say is true what I cite is bullshit.
 Quoting: Ray 1 Operative


1) Did you intervew every Israeli?

2) Likewise, I suppose to some (insane, ultra-Leftist) Israelis you may have run into... Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al-Aqsa Martyr also pulled their punches when they were blowing up busses, restaurants, discos, shopping malls, synagogues, dolphinarium, school, even a senor cultural center full of Holocaust survivers ----> you know, because they were afraid of the Israeli response...

3) "World community" would never allow Israel to bat its collective eye-lashes out of UN-mandated rhythm ---> let alone to "obliterate" the terrorists. Even Operation Defensive Shield in 2002 & subsequent erection of the Security Barrier that effectively broke the absolutely horrific 2nd intifada, were widely condemned by "progressives" everywhere....

Please get real, what is is permitted to US, Russia, China, Turkey or say France in Mali... is forbidden to the Collective Jew, err, I mean to Israel. LOL, you even have Turkey, only you know the chief sponsor of Syrian jihadi rebels, take a break, and curse at Israel over unproven strike allegations. Same with Saudis who bankroll the whole Syrian uprising.
"How dare Israel"...lol wut!
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