School board in Washington DC area considers copyright policy that takes ownership of ALL students’ + teachers' work

WASHINGTON - An eighth-grader's research paper, a kindergartner's drawing and a teacher's lesson plan would become the property of the Prince George's County Board of Education if a proposed copyright policy is approved.

The proposal says any work created for school or by using school materials would become property of the school board. Property includes staff work as well as student assignments completed inside and outside the classroom.

Lawrence Sung, an intellectual property rights lawyer and partner with BakerHostetler in D.C, says the legality of the proposal is questionable. He adds it's common for employers to own employee work, but in this case, students are not being paid for their work.

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Legally they might be able to take a teachers work, as long as it was done as part of their employment at the time. this is just an extrapolation of what would be normal in the business world.

That doesn't mean that a teacher writing a fiction novel would lose their copyright however. But if they wrote a book based on their teachers duties, that might be something they could lose control of.

They would never have a legal pathway to taking a students work, even if done in school, since the kids aren't employees of the school district. It seems that would make their new policy illegal.

I'm sure the lawyers will catch on to that if they haven't already.

D'oh! I should have read the second post first.

I basically said the same thing.

Well, I would have to wonder if there is some sort of stipulation in a teacher's contract? If not, then I would say that it may be questionable...but it's worse when it pertains to the students.

They didn't make that....Government did!! Now we know "how" the government made that....by just taking it illegally!

It might be common for employers to own employee work. However since all I was ever offered was at best 100 dollars for ideas. I never gave them a fucking thing . No doubt in my mind that trillions of dollars in ideas have never seen the light of day. Due too this odious ownership mentality,

This. I would hope not, but I imagine some teachers may not be inclined to develop lesson plans as well as they would otherwise if it wasn't considered "theirs".

Going to tell you something: years ago wife had a book of poetry, the school took it for BS reasons and it disappeared, she was an orphan and it was 15 years of writings, that entire book is now published and not in her name.

You have no clue how mad we still are 25 years later. It was everything to her. Even that poem I posted on Dr. Acula’s thread I wrote in that school as a project. It only had one single copy ever written out that I did personaly; saw it in a magazine years later.

Think about what I just said very close.

If that doesn't scream COMMUNISM....I don't know what does.

Oh my...wow. I don't even know what to say!

My blood boils, taking my wife’s memories she carried with her from home to home her whole life as they striped everything else she owned away.

But let’s avoid that, they took MY poem and published it 6 years or so after I was out of school, it was distributed in a magazine of a very large publisher, A school magazine and not with my name either.


I know who did it, but it is not a winnable fight.

But now you want to make everything a student does in his prime legally binding and owned by the school system??

I do wonder how this idea all started in that school system, I think I have a good idea though.

Last Edited by Chrit on 02/04/2013 10:21 PM

I heard that shit on the news this morning on the way to work. It just keeps getting better and better...

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These fucking libtards better get a fucking grip on reality!




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Just for the school board to think they could implement this against a student is ridiculous. The board forgets it is an employee of the student and the taxpayers, sounds like our government.

liberals, at it again. and yes, DC is entirely controlled by democrats. sorry liberals. truth is a bitch.

Many years ago, I worked at a company, and it was part of their policy that anything created on site was their intellectual property. Their view was if you created it there, then you probably were using their property: land, materials, and your work hours, in order to build or create it.

I'm not surprised to see this happen.

I'm a prolific writer here at GLP. Everything I post could technically be gathered up and sold by the owner of the board. Likewise anything anyone else wrote too. You have no intellectual property rights when posting material to a forum.

Likewise, anyone could copy and past portions of anyone's posts to other websites. This personally happened to me from my posts on GLP, and then someone posing as me copy and pasted my entire post on another site. They probably have lifted some of your posts too.

Now think about that. If a government disinformation agent was struggling to come up with fresh information, the easiest way to do that would be to "lift" material from places like GLP.

It's happening folks.

Here's how you detect that: If you have a long post, something well written, copy it into an Internet search engine and do a search for that precise text elsewhere. On Google you simple do this "example of my text from GLP" and it will look for that exact phrase.

If you're not wise, and post the same replies to multiple boards, then this method can be used to track and identify you.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 02/05/2013 09:29 AM

Actually that happened to me, I posted a pic and email about some type of DHS style vehicle and then my comments, Chrit's comments and then maybe one other person's were copied/pasted as an article for another website with no reference given that it was from another site with OTHER PEOPLE writing it.

I'm sorry that it happened to you. I felt sick when I found mine because then I wondered, "What was the motivation of pretending to be me? Was is it for good or ill? Was it because they lacked the ability to communicate themselves? Or was it them pretending to be a prepper in order to infiltrate that forum?"

Wow, in my case it wasn't that big a deal to me, but only because it wasn't something "meaningful". I have not looked to see if there have been more instances though. What type of post had you made that was copied? Was it something informative in nature? Very strange and creepy.

No one under 18 can assign or give away or have taken away so aribitrarly, their future ownership or rights in anything.

Lot of what I write ends up in the news. I’m used to it now, get copied word for word quite often. This one at the link was a funny one, and they even left my Pseudo name at the bottom at least.


Happens more often then people realize, WE write the news here.


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But more on topic, screw the school system, they should get nothing of the students work. Imagine if every college owned every doctorate thesis submitted, it’s almost laughable.

Hey I remember that thread! WOW!! WTF...that site must skim GLP and pick the best threads.

I did track down the roots of this story.


Between Craigslist and eBay, the Internet is well established as a marketplace where one person’s trash is transformed into another’s treasure. Now, thousands of teachers are cashing in on a commodity they used to give away, selling lesson plans online for exercises as simple as M&M sorting and as sophisticated as Shakespeare.


While some of this extra money is going to buy books and classroom supplies in a time of tight budgets, the new teacher-entrepreneurs are also spending it on dinners out, mortgage payments, credit card bills, vacation travel and even home renovation, leading some school officials to raise questions over who owns material developed for public school classrooms.

“To the extent that school district resources are used, then I think it’s fair to ask whether the district should share in the proceeds,” said Robert N. Lowry, deputy director of the New York State Council of School Superintendents.


Lot more at link from November 2009

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So if they are saying teachers are selling lesson plans and the school should be making that profit not the teacher then why attempt to include students works.

The answer is still what I stated above. Happens a lot more than people realize.

Dirty little secret no one wants to admit to.


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those that can't...

steal

sign of the times

there's the actual creators

and then there's the lackeys who follow along and scrape up anything that isn't nailed down and call it their own

LOL

pitiful, in truth

let's throw em a bone, whatsay?

I'm guessing anything at all will do

Time to homeschool!

Wow!

It's a shame, disgusting really...