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Massive Historic Blizzard!!! 967 mb Major Nor'easter!!! Snow already making its way into Upstate NY...

 
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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BINGHAMTON NY
357 AM EST THU FEB 7 2013

NYZ009-018-036-037-080900-
/O.UPG.KBGM.WS.A.0001.130208T1200Z-130209T1200Z/
/O.NEW.KBGM.WS.W.0001.130208T0900Z-130209T1200Z/
NORTHERN ONEIDA-ONONDAGA-MADISON-SOUTHERN ONEIDA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BOONVILLE...SYRACUSE...ONEIDA...UTICA...
ROME
357 AM EST THU FEB 7 2013

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM FRIDAY TO 7 AM EST
SATURDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BINGHAMTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM
FRIDAY TO 7 AM EST SATURDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER
IN EFFECT.

* LOCATIONS...ONONDAGA...MADISON AND ONEIDA COUNTIES.

* HAZARDS...HEAVY SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS...8 TO 12 INCHES.

* TIMING...SNOW WILL DEVELOP EARLY FRIDAY MORNING WITH THE
HEAVIEST SNOWFALL OCCURRING DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING
HOURS. SNOW WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH LATE FRIDAY NIGHT.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE MID 20S TO LOWER 30S FRIDAY...FALLING INTO
THE TEENS FRIDAY NIGHT.

* WINDS...SOUTHEAST AT 10 TO 15 MPH FRIDAY BECOMING NORTHWEST FRIDAY
NIGHT.

* IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW...
SLEET...AND ICE ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. STRONG WINDS ARE ALSO
POSSIBLE. THIS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE.

PLEASE REPORT SNOWFALL AND/OR ICE AMOUNTS TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE BY CALLING TOLL FREE AT 1-877-633-6772...OR BY EMAIL AT
BGM.STORMREPORT@NOAA.GOV.

&&

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wow folks in the northeast THis is coming to you.. [link to weather.aero]
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Indeed it is. About 2 feet. PLUS flooding and hurricane level winds.

We're being told to stock up on water, canned goods, etc... . No one will be allowed on the roads. They are planning on shutting down the interstate - I-95.

Also told to not to try and shovel until Sat. afternoon due to the winds.

It will be horrific if power goes out with temps in the single digits.

Stay safe everyone!
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New York City and the northern mid-Atlantic are on the edge of a major storm that will hit New England as a blizzard Friday and Friday night.

Only if two storms, an Alberta Clipper from the west and a storm from the South, merge very quickly will there be more than a manageable amount of snow (a foot) in New York City, northern New Jersey, southwestern Connecticut, Long Island, northeastern Pennsylvania and upstate New York
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Re: Massive Historic Blizzard!!! 967 mb Major Nor'easter!!! Snow already making its way into Upstate NY...
ummm its just snow people. if it was another sandy then ok.
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Also - please, please, please, if you are an older person, do NOT attempt to shovel. The roads will be impassable and ambulances will not be able to get to you.

This is not the time or place for heroics.

This is going to be wicked - were also told to stock up on meds.


For the kids - schools have been cancelled tomorrow.bumpbump
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ummm its just snow people. if it was another sandy then ok.
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hurricane winds, coastal floods and a big pile up of snow it's not just snow...
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New York City and the northern mid-Atlantic are on the edge of a major storm that will hit New England as a blizzard Friday and Friday night.

Only if two storms, an Alberta Clipper from the west and a storm from the South, merge very quickly will there be more than a manageable amount of snow (a foot) in New York City, northern New Jersey, southwestern Connecticut, Long Island, northeastern Pennsylvania and upstate New York
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We are being told here in SE Connecticut that we will be having 25 inches.

THAT is insane - especially along the coast.

The predicted flooding is adding insult to injury.
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Re: Massive Historic Blizzard!!! 967 mb Major Nor'easter!!! Snow already making its way into Upstate NY...
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
653 AM EST THU FEB 7 2013


.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/...
SIGNIFICANT WINTER STORM WILL IMPACT THE REGION THURSDAY NIGHT
THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT.

TWO LOWS APPROACH THE REGION THURSDAY NIGHT...A NORTHERN STREAM
LOW MOVING INTO THE GREAT LAKES AND A SOUTHERN STREAM LOW OVER THE
GULF COAST MOVING INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC. LIGHT SNOW WILL DEVELOP
TONIGHT...PRODUCING UP TO AN INCH OF SNOW FOR THE SOUTHERN HALF OF
THE CWA AND 1 TO 2 INCHES OF SNOW FOR THE INTERIOR BY THE FRIDAY
MORNING COMMUTE.

LOW PRES OVER THE MID-ATLANTIC WILL TRACK TOWARDS THE 40/70
BENCHMARK BY FRIDAY EVENING. MEANWHILE...THE NORTHERN STREAM
LOW...ALONG WITH A STRONG H5 TROUGH/SHORTWAVE COMBO...WILL PUSH
THROUGH THE NORTHEAST AND PHASE WITH THE OFFSHORE LOW FRIDAY
NIGHT. ONCE THESE 2 SYSTEMS PHASE...RAPID CYCLOGENESIS WILL OCCUR
OVER THE OCEAN...RESULTING IN WIDESPREAD HEAVY SNOW AND
STRONG...GUSTY WINDS. BASED ON THE LATEST FORECAST...THE BEST
CHANCES FOR BLIZZARD CONDS WILL BE OVER EASTERN CT AND LONG ISLAND...SO
HAVE UPGRADED THE WINTER STORM WATCH TO A BLIZZARD WATCH FOR SUFFOLK...NEW
HAVEN...MIDDLESEX...AND NEW LONDON COUNTIES. FOR THE REST OF THE
CWA...WINTER STORM WATCHES REMAIN IN EFFECT...ALTHOUGH IT IS QUITE
POSSIBLE THAT BLIZZARD CONDS WOULD EXTEND INTO WESTERN LONG
ISLAND...AND POSSIBLY AS FAR WEST AS NYC AND THE LOWER HUDSON
VALLEY.

MODELS COMING INTO BETTER AGREEMENT IN TERMS OF THE TRACK OF THE
LOW. THE 06Z NAM IS IN A POSITION SIMILAR TO THE 00Z ECMWF...BUT
BOTH ARE A BIT SLOWER AND MORE TO THE WEST AS COMPARED TO THE 00Z
OPERATIONAL GFS. MOST OF THE GEFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS ARE CLUSTERED
NEAR THE 40/70 BENCHMARK...AND THE GEFS ENSEMBLE MEAN IS IN A
POSITION SIMILAR TO THE 00Z OPERATIONAL GFS.

THERE IS STILL UNCERTAINTY AS TO THE TRACK AND POSITION OF THE
LOW. FOR NOW...EXPECTING A SURGE OF WARMER AIR AHEAD OF THE LOW ON
FRIDAY THAT WOULD CHANGE INITIAL SNOWFALL TO RAIN...BUT IF THAT
WARMER AIR DOES NOT MAKE IT...THEN WIDESPREAD SNOW WOULD FALL
THROUGHOUT THE REGION...AND SNOWFALL TOTALS WOULD HAVE TO BE
INCREASED. BASED ON THE LATEST FORECAST...WILL CARRY 6-10 INCHES
OF SNOW FOR MUCH OF NYC/NORTHEAST NJ. THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY AND
LONG ISLAND WILL HAVE SNOWFALL TOTALS RANGING FROM 8-12
INCHES...AND CT WOULD RECEIVE THE HIGHEST TOTALS...GENERALLY
RANGING FROM 18-24 INCHES OVER EASTERN ZONES. THERE WILL BE
LOCALLY LOWER AND HIGHER AMOUNTS. ONE OTHER NOTE OF CONCERN IS THE
POSSIBLE SURGE OF WARMER AIR ALOFT. IF THIS MAKES IT TO THE LOCAL
AREA...THAT COULD RESULT IN LESS SNOWFALL...BUT MORE IN THE WAY OF
SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN.

HIGH WINDS WILL ALSO BECOME A MAJOR THREAT FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH
SAT MORNING...PARTICULARLY FROM THE NYC METRO EAST...CT AND LI.
MODEL WINDS AT THE TOP OF THE MIXED LAYER ARE RUNNING 50 TO 65
KT...EQUATING TO 25 TO 40 MPH WINDS WITH 50 TO 65 MPH GUSTS
POTENTIAL. HIGHEST WINDS WOULD LIKELY BE ACROSS EASTERN CT AND
EASTERN LI. THESE WINDS AND HEAVY SNOW WOULD PRESENT THE
POTENTIAL FOR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS FRIDAY NIGHT...WITH DANGEROUS
TRAVEL CONDITIONS...SCATTERED DOWNED TREES AND POWER OUTAGES [link to www.myweather2.com]
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Business Insider‏@businessinsider

A Potentially Historic Winter Storm Heads Toward New England by @DinaSpector [link to read.bi]
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Re: Massive Historic Blizzard!!! 967 mb Major Nor'easter!!! Snow already making its way into Upstate NY...
If any other blizzards are an indicator, there will be hundreds (at least) of people stranded on the roads. Monitor the emergency channels on Radio Reference, or your scanner, if possible. I would tend to think the National Guard will be deployed fairly quickly. There may be requests from emergency personnel for 4 X 4 vehicles and snowmobiles for rescue attempts, or to at least provide water/blankets to stranded motorists. These are scenarios that have occurred in other areas here in the US and up in Canada too. Difference here is that this is a highly populated area.

Also, if they are calling for this amount of snow, expect power outages, and the probability of roof collapses.

All the best out there for everyone.
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Just released a blizzard watch for us on Long Island
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Just released a blizzard watch for us on Long Island
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I saw that, and upped our total to 12" now too!
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Just released a blizzard watch for us on Long Island
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I saw that, and upped our total to 12" now too!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27449541


There are still people by me without power and who still can't move back into their homes, this is the worst case scenario for a lot of peoplehiding
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Just released a blizzard watch for us on Long Island
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I saw that, and upped our total to 12" now too!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27449541


There are still people by me without power and who still can't move back into their homes, this is the worst case scenario for a lot of peoplehiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30248208


bumpbumpbump
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Re: Massive Historic Blizzard!!! 967 mb Major Nor'easter!!! Snow already making its way into Upstate NY...
Just released a blizzard watch for us on Long Island
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30248208


I saw that, and upped our total to 12" now too!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27449541


There are still people by me without power and who still can't move back into their homes, this is the worst case scenario for a lot of peoplehiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30248208


I'm on the North Shore and we have homes condemned from Sandy that the home owners never received ANY female help. I work in Rockville Centre and had to run to Long Beach yesterday and was completely blown away and what the boardwalk area looks like. First time I had made it down there since the hurricane. :(
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Just released a blizzard watch for us on Long Island
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30248208


I saw that, and upped our total to 12" now too!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27449541


There are still people by me without power and who still can't move back into their homes, this is the worst case scenario for a lot of peoplehiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30248208


I'm on the North Shore and we have homes condemned from Sandy that the home owners never received ANY female help. I work in Rockville Centre and had to run to Long Beach yesterday and was completely blown away and what the boardwalk area looks like. First time I had made it down there since the hurricane. :(
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FEMA, NOT female LOL
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Surface low just south of Mobile, AL 1010mb

[link to www.spc.noaa.gov]

Very strong moisture transport - picking up lots of GOM juice.

[link to www.spc.noaa.gov]
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Posted this in another thread.

Having lived in New England my whole life I can safely say that 2-2 1/2 ft of snow is not that big a deal. It has been rare the last few years since we have been in a cycle of mild winters. You have to remember that storms need to be hyped up for ratings. If you have a house along the shore that hasn't been washed away in all the historic storms we have had over the years, an let me reiterate that every big storm seems to be called historic, you will probably get some flooding.

It will snow a lot Friday, people will dig out Saturday, and everything will be back to normal Sunday, and with the current forecast predicting temperatures in the 40s next week a lot of it will be melted by next weekend.
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I saw that, and upped our total to 12" now too!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27449541


There are still people by me without power and who still can't move back into their homes, this is the worst case scenario for a lot of peoplehiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30248208


I'm on the North Shore and we have homes condemned from Sandy that the home owners never received ANY female help. I work in Rockville Centre and had to run to Long Beach yesterday and was completely blown away and what the boardwalk area looks like. First time I had made it down there since the hurricane. :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27449541


FEMA, NOT female LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27449541


I'm on the south shore, haven't seen a dime of the sandy aid, when fema was here they did absolutely nothing for us. If you go a block away from me there are houses that literally came off the foundation. I just hope this blizzard turns out to be nothing for the sake of my neighbors.
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You cannot possibly think that the GFS is going to be accurate 10-15 days out. Give me a break.
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yes you are right... impossible to know if it will happen. We have to see how things evolve
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That's because the Earth is hollow.spock
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Tropical wave just south of Puerto Rico.

[link to tropic.ssec.wisc.edu]

Keep an eye on this.

Once the surface low crosses FL and gets in the Gulf Stream, all hell could break loose if it taps into the tropical wave.
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New York City and the northern mid-Atlantic are on the edge of a major storm that will hit New England as a blizzard Friday and Friday night.

Only if two storms, an Alberta Clipper from the west and a storm from the South, merge very quickly will there be more than a manageable amount of snow (a foot) in New York City, northern New Jersey, southwestern Connecticut, Long Island, northeastern Pennsylvania and upstate New York
 Quoting: Luisport


I like the last paragraph..ONLY IF

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I just came from the grocery store; it was like a Saturday
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Tropical wave just south of Puerto Rico.

[link to tropic.ssec.wisc.edu]

Keep an eye on this.

Once the surface low crosses FL and gets in the Gulf Stream, all hell could break loose if it taps into the tropical wave.
 Quoting: DoorBert


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Moisture being pulled from the GOM at this time.. That's ALOT.. [link to www.spc.noaa.gov]
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Mods, please keep this pinned!


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Blowing 30kts+ with horizontal rain in Fort Walton Beach...
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Tropical wave just south of Puerto Rico.

[link to tropic.ssec.wisc.edu]

Keep an eye on this.

Once the surface low crosses FL and gets in the Gulf Stream, all hell could break loose if it taps into the tropical wave.
 Quoting: DoorBert


scaredalonescared
 Quoting: Luisport


Can you please elaborate ? I didn't quite understand Thanks !
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Just released a blizzard watch for us on Long Island
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30248208


I saw that, and upped our total to 12" now too!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27449541


There are still people by me without power and who still can't move back into their homes, this is the worst case scenario for a lot of peoplehiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30248208


I'm on the North Shore and we have homes condemned from Sandy that the home owners never received ANY female help. I work in Rockville Centre and had to run to Long Beach yesterday and was completely blown away and what the boardwalk area looks like. First time I had made it down there since the hurricane. :(
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Well whatever happens be safe hf
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Tropical wave just south of Puerto Rico.

[link to tropic.ssec.wisc.edu]

Keep an eye on this.

Once the surface low crosses FL and gets in the Gulf Stream, all hell could break loose if it taps into the tropical wave.
 Quoting: DoorBert


scaredalonescared
 Quoting: Luisport


Can you please elaborate ? I didn't quite understand Thanks !
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possible hurricane comming if it reaches some conditions
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Just a thought..

what if a lightening storm sparks the butane caverns in Louisiana

New Madrid goes off

both
Coasts are dealing with their own massive storms

then what?

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