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How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?

 
Ontheverge

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02/04/2013 09:41 PM

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How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
Where they watching him? Listening to him? How? did they blow the door open?

There is not much point in having a bunker if they are that easy to break in to.
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02/04/2013 09:44 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
It isn't that hard, it was through a pvc pipe and a toy, the rest you very likely will never know.

It goes like this, just because you want to know doesn't mean you need to know. They will be polite as possible.
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02/04/2013 10:00 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
It isn't that hard, it was through a pvc pipe and a toy, the rest you very likely will never know.

It goes like this, just because you want to know doesn't mean you need to know. They will be polite as possible.
 Quoting: Daughter


Why the secrecy?
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02/04/2013 10:26 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
It is just the way we are here in Alabama, what happens is not for a media frenzy, people deserve privacy. The man is dead no one wanted him dead, he was a sick man.
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02/04/2013 10:27 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
Pump odourless knockout gas down the tube.
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02/04/2013 10:28 PM

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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
Pump odourless knockout gas down the tube.
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ahh
so a bunker is pretty worthless.


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02/04/2013 10:36 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
Something should have been done about the psycho after he beat a dog to death with a pipe. Just a tiny hint about his mental state.
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02/04/2013 10:38 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
he's dead Jim
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02/05/2013 01:58 AM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
The FBI were using fiber optic video surveillance devices through the vent system. They decided to make their move when the man became incoherent and was physically threatening the boy.

A skinny "under the door" type distraction munition was fed down the vent pipe, ready to be set off after the breaching team had already wired the bunker's door with a well-tamped breaching charge on the hinges/latches.

At a pre-arranged time, the stun munition in the vent pipe was set off with a hardwired electrical detonator. At the same moment, the breach team blew the door and conducted a dynamic entry.

With the offender and the hostage both stunned by the double blast in such a confined space, they saw an opportunity to shoot him dead and they took it.

End of story.

However... the same principles used by the FBI's HRT in digging this guy out of his bunker can be used against TPTB in theirs.

1. Knock out any above-ground video surveillance
2. Locate ventilation system
3. Mess around with said ventilation system - piss in it, drop microphones or loudspeakers into it, feed explosives or gas generating materials into it, or simply block it up.

People need to breathe.

Thanks for showing us the way FBI Hostage Rescue Team - you rock rockon
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02/05/2013 02:28 AM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
Guess all these whacks with their bunkers ready feeling so safe and stealthy have to be rethinking their plans now.
Hole up underground makes it easy to seal em up and get rid of them.Gas em etc...Probably be out buying masks now to wear while holed up.Another boom to the economy.
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02/05/2013 05:37 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
How do we know all of this even happened?
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02/05/2013 05:45 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
The whole thing is fucking bullshit. Made up.
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02/05/2013 05:47 PM

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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
Pump odourless knockout gas down the tube.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33677685


That's what the Russians did in the theater.
It would be much easier in a bunker scenario....which is likely what they did.
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02/05/2013 05:49 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
Guess all these whacks with their bunkers ready feeling so safe and stealthy have to be rethinking their plans now.
Hole up underground makes it easy to seal em up and get rid of them.Gas em etc...Probably be out buying masks now to wear while holed up.Another boom to the economy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33667949


Good u drank the kool aid. This is EXACTLY what they want u to think....what good is a bunker?
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02/05/2013 05:51 PM

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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
Guess all these whacks with their bunkers ready feeling so safe and stealthy have to be rethinking their plans now.
Hole up underground makes it easy to seal em up and get rid of them.Gas em etc...Probably be out buying masks now to wear while holed up.Another boom to the economy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33667949


Good u drank the kool aid. This is EXACTLY what they want u to think....what good is a bunker?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32381683


...of limited value if it has no air filtration system apparently. grnrolleyes
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02/05/2013 05:56 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
they used a sleeping nerve agent
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02/05/2013 06:26 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
It wasn't a bunker. It was a home-made tornado shelter. The media just hyped it up.
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02/05/2013 06:31 PM

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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
They tapped three times as was the pre-arranged code, he opened the door expecting to be wisked away to the witness protection program in Hawaii as they promised, and then they shot him.

Some nice grandfatherly type named Gene gave the kid a stuffed animal and it was over.

Nothing to see here folks......
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02/05/2013 06:34 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
It isn't that hard, it was through a pvc pipe and a toy, the rest you very likely will never know.

It goes like this, just because you want to know doesn't mean you need to know. They will be polite as possible.
 Quoting: Daughter


What proof do you have that this child ever existed?
What proof do you have the man existed?
Why would the mother release a statement to the media
THROUGH the FBI?

For all I know, the FBI wrote this nice little note.
People don't have to believe every cock and bull story
LE and the Media decide to tell.

[link to www.dothaneagle.com]

Btw, why do you suppose that CNN used "Ethan" in quotation
marks?
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02/05/2013 06:42 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
The FBI were using fiber optic video surveillance devices through the vent system. They decided to make their move when the man became incoherent and was physically threatening the boy.

A skinny "under the door" type distraction munition was fed down the vent pipe, ready to be set off after the breaching team had already wired the bunker's door with a well-tamped breaching charge on the hinges/latches.

At a pre-arranged time, the stun munition in the vent pipe was set off with a hardwired electrical detonator. At the same moment, the breach team blew the door and conducted a dynamic entry.

With the offender and the hostage both stunned by the double blast in such a confined space, they saw an opportunity to shoot him dead and they took it.

End of story.

However... the same principles used by the FBI's HRT in digging this guy out of his bunker can be used against TPTB in theirs.

1. Knock out any above-ground video surveillance
2. Locate ventilation system
3. Mess around with said ventilation system - piss in it, drop microphones or loudspeakers into it, feed explosives or gas generating materials into it, or simply block it up.

People need to breathe.

Thanks for showing us the way FBI Hostage Rescue Team - you rock rockon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33654420

High end bunkers would not need ventilation systems (i.e. systems that vent to the outside world). They do it on nuclear submarines, albeit with a good supply of sea water.
Take your dogma and shove it!

Life is not about what happens to you, it's about how you deal with it.
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02/05/2013 06:45 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
It isn't that hard, it was through a pvc pipe and a toy, the rest you very likely will never know.

It goes like this, just because you want to know doesn't mean you need to know. They will be polite as possible.
 Quoting: Daughter


What proof do you have that this child ever existed?
What proof do you have the man existed?
Why would the mother release a statement to the media
THROUGH the FBI?

For all I know, the FBI wrote this nice little note.
People don't have to believe every cock and bull story
LE and the Media decide to tell.

[link to www.dothaneagle.com]

Btw, why do you suppose that CNN used "Ethan" in quotation
marks?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


because it's a fake name to protect the child
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02/05/2013 06:52 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
Easy when it's a fake made up media hit piece! No need for details the story is all that matters!
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02/05/2013 06:56 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
Where they watching him? Listening to him? How? did they blow the door open?

There is not much point in having a bunker if they are that easy to break in to.
 Quoting: Ontheverge


All a movie set
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02/05/2013 06:58 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
It isn't that hard, it was through a pvc pipe and a toy, the rest you very likely will never know.

It goes like this, just because you want to know doesn't mean you need to know. They will be polite as possible.
 Quoting: Daughter


What proof do you have that this child ever existed?
What proof do you have the man existed?
Why would the mother release a statement to the media
THROUGH the FBI?

For all I know, the FBI wrote this nice little note.
People don't have to believe every cock and bull story
LE and the Media decide to tell.

[link to www.dothaneagle.com]

Btw, why do you suppose that CNN used "Ethan" in quotation
marks?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


because it's a fake name to protect the child
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33759161


Yes, but see they trotted out a little black child who
mentioned him by name. She said, I sure do miss "Ethan".
Now you reckon they told this little black girl to play along with a fake name?

And if she would do that, why wouldn't she play along with pretending she knows him, at all.
She was a lot older than 5. Matter of fact, I think they got her to say a few words because she's related to the people at Destiny Church who may have had some cash thrown their way.
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02/05/2013 07:04 PM
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Re: How did they get in the Alabama guy;s bunker?
You know what else?
I looked up ol dead bus driver supposedly Charles Poland.
On the white pages it only lists Mary. Like she lives alone. White pages takes awhile to catch up because it
usually goes by, well white pages in phone books.

Anyway, they list an address at 52 Thames St. Newton, Al
But you know what? There isn't any 52 Thames St.

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