Desperately in need of Justice !! A young mother's unhappy story....

Little boy, you've got problems, but this thread isn't the place. There ARE problems in family court. Men DO get the shaft, but your posts aren't winning ANYONE over to your side of the arguement. If you can't hold a decent conversation, leave the thread. Anymore, BS from you and I WILL report your abusive language. Call me another name.

Turn truly to God.Be fully with God and ask Him to get your child back and He will listen.

Good night everyone and thank you so much for all the good advice and words of encouragement.

Why don't YOU drop the attitude? Have YOUR children been kidnapped? Talk to us like a human being and maybe someone can help. If not, shut up and go away. The grown ups are talking.

You are a total ass and a waste of air.

File a motion to have the case moved to a different county, cite all the contempt of court occurrences. If the local judge refuses move it to a state level appeal.

How does one get "former" children? Mr. Nolan must have seriously discredited himself if he cannot get ONE of 10,000 women to help him. Do you have such strong sympathy for him because you have abused your family so badly that you must hide from the law in Cambodia? I hope you and others of your ilk are brought to justice.

This just happened to a friend of mine in PA. It's years of bullshit. I've seen women have to give up babies and men have to give up babies. In the end you have to just stay strong. A buddy of mine marched right into his ex wife's house and took his kids right out. He won full custody and is a proud papa. And a mom I know just got done with two years of court to get full custody of her son. ... It is stressful but you just got to stay the course and prove you are the fit parent.

Thank you mods.

^^^this

You MUST leave ALL emotions out of anything you write or present to the court.

You MUST document everything. All contact all phone calls everything.

Someone in this thread said that already. Please know that that and the attorneys advice are the two things that will give your daughter a chance to resolve this case.

Leave out the emotional crap for it makes both you and her sound like a couple of loons (even though I do understand all the feelings you are going through).

The courts will NOT listen to any of it.
They want one thing, and that is just the facts. Presented by an attorney.

Your daughter had better find a way to hire an attorney. Bad mouthing the courts are not going to help either.

Just the facts.

That letter you wrote was hard to read as it wandered all over the place.

Keep a log.

Take the B vitamins someone recommended.

Pull yourself together so your daughter can draw strength from you.

My only question is why didn't paying an attorney (thereby protecting her son and her parental rights) become a priority over all the crap your daughter and her new husband went into debt for?

Quit the drama and get real legal help.

If you go public with all your boo-hoo stuff you will be dooming your grandson.

Seriously.

By hook or by crook she needs representation. Good luck to you and your daughter.

I have an eerily similar experience. He's lucky that he has such family support. Your daughter seems to only have you. I wish you and your daughter peace of mind, but I am not sure you are pursuing the right course. Justice and restitution may seem like a ideal resolution for your daughter against her ex, sometimes you have to settle for less. I see that she is now being the mother she wants to be, so why carry the fight forward to an uncertain conclusion? The courts supposedly view child custody disputes for the child's interest, not the parents. I sense that you and your daughter are exhausted both mentally and physically, so I advise that you negotiate a cease fire -- one concession for another and return to a routine joint custody arrangement. Time will hopefully heal the wounds and mistrust...

All I had to read was dumb bitch sleeping around with no birth control and didnt wait long enough to realize the guy sticking his dick in her was just using her.

No sympathy. Too many grown women still have the maturity of juveniles. She minimizes her responsibilities. And any woman who doesn't understand birth control has no earthly business being a doctor. NO EXCUSES. Seriously, if you're intending to be a doctor you should be someone who RARELY makes mistakes at all. Especially stupid stupid mistakes that only teenage girls should be making.

And the letter addresses the guy as retard? Lol. Epic fail. Yea blame the guy you libtards.

She fucked up. Now she can pay the consequences.

O/P you are a drama queen, doubtless your daughter too will also be a drama queen. I gave up the will to read your whole post shortly after I read that your daughter was 26 years old.

Entering into a relationship is fraught with risk. This risk pales into insignificance when a woman decides she is ready to bring (yet) another child into this world. Your daughter decided on this course at the age of 20!

You had her first 20 years to impress on her a set of life values and expectations before she decided to push out a "mini-me" by someone who she (clearly) hardly knew.

Your daughter is an adult, you can SUPPORT her in every way possible, however neither of you can make up for past bad (life) choices, especially you.

The most important thing you can TRY and do, is START behaving in a rational coherent manner - something you are going to find exceedingly difficult to do. The legal system will generally respond to decent rational people. (which you and your daughter and probably your grand daughter are almost definitely not!).

Watch Judge Judy for a few hours, take careful note on how she comes to her rulings. Most of the cases are from breakdown in previously good relationship - people arguing about a few hundred bucks of money, spent in better times.

Get over the drama, it is and will be your downfall.

The only thing that will save you, your daughter and grandchildren in this evil world is the law courts even if they themselves are evil. (Apart from prayer, faith and belief of course which is your secret weapon no one knows about.)

Get rid of all emotions as quick as possible as your enemy is not going to change.

Keep a journal of evey single incident that takes place from this day onwards and everyday make notes of what happened prior to the starting date of your journal to build a story of the truth, avoid emotions and do not use yourself as a shield to protect him when you write it down, certain men are attracted to loving hearts who provide unconditional love and this one seems to be like that, so write the incident with actual facts making sure you are not trying to protect him but make sure you are protecting yourself and your future.

You can use the journal in the courts when the day arrives as this person will attack until he takes his last breath a journal can save you if you have evil lawyers, prosecutors and judges. Keep regular photos available of you happy daily living and the children's progress, attach it. This will require decicated parenting and the children will feel safe, don't get involved with other guys as the father might go mad, just stay cool.

Only a miracle will save him, but that is not your problem, it is between his conscience and God, you cannot save him.

Cut off all the heart strings, hand the matter over to God, and be strong the children will benefit as they will feel your strength, bad emotions will cause problems in their own lives one day when they are adults and this is what the evil in the air wants, a destroyed society.

Be your own lawyer, prosecutor and judge in a clever way and have the ammo ready at all times, this thing is not going to go away, the trauma will make you stronger people if you fight it right.

I have found, from personal experience,
that personal safety comes before 'the marriage'

At the first sign of aberrant behavior from a spouse,
flee to at least the next state with kids, permanently,
and work out issues from there.

Aberrant behavior includes but is not limited to,
sitting in a mudroom with a butcher knife for no reason,
shoving, slapping, locked spaces the spouse cannot access.

He/she is quite gone.

Cambodia, strong opinions are welcome. Please state them civilly.

Last Edited by Lady Jane Smith on 02/05/2013 07:21 AM

Thanks, LJ.

I'm so sorry to read about all your problems. it all sounded so awful/ I'm afraid I can't offer much in the way of advice, but my thoughts and prayers are definitely with you!

People who mess their cases up and don't handle them correctly always try to look to other reasons for why the case is going badly.

Either it's a good ole boys club, or the family has connections, or the judges are corrupt.

I've not run into those problems, even when I'm in a jurisdiction that I am not usually in.

And I understand she doesn't have any money, but then she should at least invest a few hundred dollars consulting with an experienced family law attorney who can help your daughter (and you) understand how this case should be handled so that you can get it turned around.

It's like a dance, and you have to learn the steps. The way you guys are playing it so far is hurting your daughter's case so far.

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