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2012 DA14 WILL hit earth.. Confirmed.

 
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Wasn't the op's entire point the trajectory information publicly available has been modified to show a relatively harmless course????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22948885

Which is demonstrably wrong.
Wouldn't that mean all you are doing is promoting EXACTLY what the op said tptb WOULD promote until the time comes for "full" disclosure of the actual circumstance?????
 Quoting: AC

I'm promoting the truth. Just because the OP claims it's a conspiracy and everyone who says its not going to hit based on their analysis of the orbit is part of the conspiracy does not make it so.
You're either gullible, narcissistic, egotistical, or have a very set agenda you can not stray away from, risk retribution from some higher source that gives you the ability to do and say with your level of "authority".
 Quoting: AC

None of the above. I know from doing the calculations for myself that the OP is wrong, particularly when they claim that people like me are part of the conspiracy. And when the OP is shown to be lying on the 15th, I will be here waiting for his apology.
Get a life astro you made this thread what it is
 Quoting: AC

hellyeah
Are you saying I'm responsible for this cluster fuck? No, you guys did that to yourselves, I'm just the dog who's eating out of your food bowl while you're busy fucking everything up.
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So, is it hitting or not? A simple yes or no will do...Don't really want to read the entire thread hf
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You act like there aren't thousands of highly
skilled and qualified professionals and
amateurs watching this thing minute by minute.
You only post this crap where there are
crowds of mushy minded people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5036819


So what if they're watching..?
What difference does that make..?

And you call others mushy-minded.
 Quoting: Waterbug


If it deviated one little bit, they'd
run over their children and pets to be
the first one to report it.
If it were going to strike the Earth and
they reported it first, they'd get their
name on it.
They'd be THE rockstars of their peers.
NO WAY could information such as you suggest
be hidden.
Even in little tiny towns there are amateur
astronomers with backyard observatories
watching and calculatining every night
hoping they see something first so they can
get some glory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5036819


IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
People will believe what they wish to believe.
 Quoting: Waterbug


It does to this little thing I like to call "reality." What people believe because they wish to believe it is irrelevant.
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So, is it hitting or not? A simple yes or no will do...Don't really want to read the entire thread hf
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No.
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Duh.

Again.. what difference does it make..?
Unless a person has access to the data, the ability
to use it and the credentials to back it up..
 Quoting: Waterbug



'Everyone can access the data if they want it. If you're too stupid to use it, well I can't help you there, but not all of us are that stupid.'


Hope that made you feel better.

Well... I'm not going to swap nasties with you..
My expertise is not in astronomy.. it is music..
I don't call non-musicians stupid because they can't
play an instrument expertly.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You act as if those who are interested and experienced in astronomy but are only amateurs and not professionals are too stupid to use it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I don't 'act' in any way..
I have, professionally, but that's beside the point.

Having an open mind about these things is not wrong.
My point is, as I have repeatedly stated..
people will believe what they wish to believe..
regardless of who is saying what.

I have not made any predictions either way.
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anyone can spend a few hundred bucks and buy a telescope...

they can get the info about DA14 from the net and make observations of their own.

the equipment is out there readily available and so is the info...

its not like its some super secret hard to do thing... that is only reserved for the evil government agencies...

yes even the most tard of tards can locate and confirm the trajectory of DA14

sooner or later a threat will appear to this planet... but DA14 is not that threat
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The gravitational pull of the earth will in fact pull this baby in.

The impact site is unknown .

The scientific data has purposely been altered to cover this story up.

Even certain shills on this website have gone far enough to post trumped up data on this in the form of youtube video, and this person(s) are part of the cover up.

I know a few people on the higher up scale that said it was orginally not supposed to hit but it has been confirmed their data was dead wrong.

Lets just hope this thing doesnt land in a highly populated area.

Your government will hold an emergency broadcast 2 days before the event.

godspeed everyone.. i hope we get through this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7052443

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hope it hits Washington D.C., Denver, or where-ever the real Feds are located..

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In my last reply I meant to say
"There is NOT one set of publicly available data."
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Having an open mind about these things is not wrong.
 Quoting: Waterbug

Ignoring reality is.
My point is, as I have repeatedly stated..
people will believe what they wish to believe..
regardless of who is saying what.
 Quoting: Waterbug

I do not care. If people want to be idiots and claim complete falsehoods in the face of reality, fine, but I will put the truth out there for those who aren't so irrational and will actually look at the evidence. Believe it or not, there ARE rational people out there who aren't familiar with the details of astronomy and celestial mechanics. Those people will not automatically believe whatever it is they want to believe, nor will they assume that amateur sources of information are part of some grand conspiracy.

Even if my information never reached them, when this object comes and goes exactly as myself and so many others predicted it will instill a seed of doubt in those who previously believed otherwise. That is why there are people here who do appreciate the information I present, even if they aren't necessarily on the "debunker" side of the fence. They've seen that I've been right time and time again.
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Wasn't the op's entire point the trajectory information publicly available has been modified to show a relatively harmless course????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22948885

Which is demonstrably wrong.
Wouldn't that mean all you are doing is promoting EXACTLY what the op said tptb WOULD promote until the time comes for "full" disclosure of the actual circumstance?????
 Quoting: AC

I'm promoting the truth. Just because the OP claims it's a conspiracy and everyone who says its not going to hit based on their analysis of the orbit is part of the conspiracy does not make it so.
You're either gullible, narcissistic, egotistical, or have a very set agenda you can not stray away from, risk retribution from some higher source that gives you the ability to do and say with your level of "authority".
 Quoting: AC

None of the above. I know from doing the calculations for myself that the OP is wrong, particularly when they claim that people like me are part of the conspiracy. And when the OP is shown to be lying on the 15th, I will be here waiting for his apology.
Get a life astro you made this thread what it is
 Quoting: AC

:hellyeah:
Are you saying I'm responsible for this cluster fuck? No, you guys did that to yourselves, I'm just the dog who's eating out of your food bowl while you're busy fucking everything up.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Um, could we please see your calculations? I mean, you can take pictures of comets millions of miles away from earth, but you dont show "how" you calculate your facts. Seriously, I'd like to see what you're working with, as a non-active participant. I personally don't care if there is an impact next week or next millennia; there's problems we can tackle right now that does not need an asteroid impacting us to kick start.

Oh, well it doesn't really matter. Da14 was discovered in when? 2012? By who? Professional astronomers in Spain? And it's going to be closer than some satellites??

Even for an "official non-event" there's really not that much time
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So what if they're watching..?
What difference does that make..?

And you call others mushy-minded.
 Quoting: Waterbug


If it deviated one little bit, they'd
run over their children and pets to be
the first one to report it.
If it were going to strike the Earth and
they reported it first, they'd get their
name on it.
They'd be THE rockstars of their peers.
NO WAY could information such as you suggest
be hidden.
Even in little tiny towns there are amateur
astronomers with backyard observatories
watching and calculatining every night
hoping they see something first so they can
get some glory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5036819


IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
People will believe what they wish to believe.
 Quoting: Waterbug


It does to this little thing I like to call "reality." What people believe because they wish to believe it is irrelevant.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


That is your reality.
Would you agree that someone can believe differently...
thereby creating their own 'reality'?

How do you know that what I see and perceive as 'blue',
is exactly the same as your perception of 'blue'..?

Does that make my 'blue' less valid..?


If someone wishes to believe that an asteroid will hit..
does ridiculing that person make any difference to
the asteroid..?
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If it deviated one little bit, they'd
run over their children and pets to be
the first one to report it.
If it were going to strike the Earth and
they reported it first, they'd get their
name on it.
They'd be THE rockstars of their peers.
NO WAY could information such as you suggest
be hidden.
Even in little tiny towns there are amateur
astronomers with backyard observatories
watching and calculatining every night
hoping they see something first so they can
get some glory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5036819


IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
People will believe what they wish to believe.
 Quoting: Waterbug


It does to this little thing I like to call "reality." What people believe because they wish to believe it is irrelevant.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


That is your reality.
Would you agree that someone can believe differently...
thereby creating their own 'reality'?

How do you know that what I see and perceive as 'blue',
is exactly the same as your perception of 'blue'..?

Does that make my 'blue' less valid..?


If someone wishes to believe that an asteroid will hit..
does ridiculing that person make any difference to
the asteroid..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


You're wasting your time waterbug, astro has a VERY set persona.

When it happens, it happens. And everyone will be caught off guard. Literally, that's all we really need to know. Shit happens all the damn time, while we can't figure out specifically when, it is a fact in this universe MAJOR SHIT HAPPENS, so just be patient.
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Look ,my Aunt asked the cleaner at the local school and even he said it wont hit and he should know coz he cleans the science lab ,also as a back up i put 2 pieces of paper on the floor one with hit and the other with miss on it and my yorkie chose the same one with miss on it twice ,so there yah go its verified and wont hit ,any more proof required i have a hamster and a goldfish i can ask them if they are willing to be guinea pigs .hidingdasbier
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Astromut is a paid government shill!!! Wake up everyone! He's here to discredit GLP!
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Astromut is a paid government shill!!! Wake up everyone! He's here to discredit GLP!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9700822


Well just in case i got a tin of beans and a bottle of coke ,so im totally prepared ,there is nothing like being a preper and i feel sorry for the people who aren't as ready as me .hiding
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It's not even astro you should worry about; it's the legion of "anonymous cowards" that dick ride everything astro says. Logically if you have a team of shills, you wouldn't let your best shill shill with no back up
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It's not even astro you should worry about; it's the legion of "anonymous cowards" that dick ride everything astro says. Logically if you have a team of shills, you wouldn't let your best shill shill with no back up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22948885


Astro has been through everything from start to finish with easy to understand diagrams plenty of working out so even an idiot can understand it ,but still the doomtards want the end of the world ,it will happen just not yet maybe when im 140 and getting old .
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ttb2

I found the rock
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It's not even astro you should worry about; it's the legion of "anonymous cowards" that dick ride everything astro says. Logically if you have a team of shills, you wouldn't let your best shill shill with no back up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22948885


Astro has been through everything from start to finish with easy to understand diagrams plenty of working out so even an idiot can understand it ,but still the doomtards want the end of the world ,it will happen just not yet maybe when im 140 and getting old .
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Thanks for the example!
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Astromut is a paid government shill!!! Wake up everyone! He's here to discredit GLP!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9700822
he's really wearing his self out on this one.
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Oh please may this thing hone on astromut, once he starts posting on a thread. that's it .. I moving to the next one ..
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You're exactly the sort of person who burns people at the stake because your cord crop failed.

fuckscience

God bless Dr Astro!
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The gravitational pull of the earth will in fact pull this baby in.

The impact site is unknown .

The scientific data has purposely been altered to cover this story up.

Even certain shills on this website have gone far enough to post trumped up data on this in the form of youtube video, and this person(s) are part of the cover up.

I know a few people on the higher up scale that said it was orginally not supposed to hit but it has been confirmed their data was dead wrong.

Lets just hope this thing doesnt land in a highly populated area.

Your government will hold an emergency broadcast 2 days before the event.

godspeed everyone.. i hope we get through this.
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Oh my would you look at that,just look at it.
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So how close will the space rock be exatly?
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i see everyone ignored my calculations relating to this thing only having the impact energy of a tactical nuke, but what the hell.


5a
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I'm trying to catch-up, hope your calculation is debunked, no offense.

If someone started this thread or is contributing, to make people mortally-fearful, I hope they fuckin get it in the neck with a rusty screwdriver. Was that terrible to say??
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If it deviated one little bit, they'd
run over their children and pets to be
the first one to report it.
If it were going to strike the Earth and
they reported it first, they'd get their
name on it.
They'd be THE rockstars of their peers.
NO WAY could information such as you suggest
be hidden.
Even in little tiny towns there are amateur
astronomers with backyard observatories
watching and calculatining every night
hoping they see something first so they can
get some glory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5036819


IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
People will believe what they wish to believe.
 Quoting: Waterbug


It does to this little thing I like to call "reality." What people believe because they wish to believe it is irrelevant.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


That is your reality.
Would you agree that someone can believe differently...
thereby creating their own 'reality'?
 Quoting: Waterbug

Nope. You can believe with all your heart, mind and soul that that asteroid will hit us. You can absolutely believe it's going to hit, it still will not hit us. They may create their own fantasy that it's going to hit, but reality is a separate matter. I'm simply posting objective facts.
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So how close will the space rock be exatly?
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So how close will the space rock be exatly?
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17720 miles;The asteroid will pass closer than satellites in geosynchronous orbit. Guess how those satellites stay in the same place??

Answer: distance, and speed.

Connect the dots...
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It's not even astro you should worry about; it's the legion of "anonymous cowards" that dick ride everything astro says. Logically if you have a team of shills, you wouldn't let your best shill shill with no back up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22948885


Astro has been through everything from start to finish with easy to understand diagrams plenty of working out so even an idiot can understand it ,but still the doomtards want the end of the world ,it will happen just not yet maybe when im 140 and getting old .
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Thanks for the example!
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You been watching to much armageddon ,Bruce has a new movie out now .
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Um, could we please see your calculations? I mean, you can take pictures of comets millions of miles away from earth, but you dont show "how" you calculate your facts.
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Absolutely. It's similar to this video I created a little while back, but a little bit different in this situation:

I am in the process of making a new video about 2012 DA14 right now using nothing but purely amateur data. I'll post that in this thread when it's done. In the meantime you can get a taste of the process above (though of course I don't use Celestia in this case, and there are some other differences as well as I was in a rush to make the above video).
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So how close will the space rock be exatly?
 Quoting: TheMacaroni


So how close will the space rock be exatly?
 Quoting: TheMacaroni


17720 miles;The asteroid will pass closer than satellites in geosynchronous orbit. Guess how those satellites stay in the same place??

Answer: distance, and speed.

Connect the dots...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22948885


Guess what? This asteroid will be traveling far faster than those satellites. Earth's gravity cannot and will not "capture" it.
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