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2012 DA14 WILL hit earth.. Confirmed.

 
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Good informative video
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Talk about splitting hairs... Sorry, not going to play that game.
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Astro, you thrive off splitting hairs, so why not be totally accurate now.
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Because it's irrelevant. I don't split hairs over things that don't affect the claim.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


physic law just say that thhe speed of falling is the same for every mass.

but if this asteroid is bigger, its trajectory will be altered by earth gravity. and alter this asteroid speed too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34240632


The asteroid's trajectory will be altered by earth's gravity the same regardless of its mass. Physics fail. If it were a significant fraction of the earth's mass then the mutual attraction would be noticeably greater, but that is not the case here. Its mass is irrelevant compared to earth's mass.
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That program updates over the Internet.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16663041

What the fuck are you talking about?
Not saying its been corrupted but when was it last updated and if was recent if you have original version of that program you could install a fresh version and redo the calculations I bet that the original program spits out a diffrent set of variables.
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Again, what the fuck are you talking about?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Programs that update over the net are suspect,
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What program are you even talking about? You're making vague handwaving gestures and pretending like you're making a valid point.
That's what the fuck I'm talking about. Install fresh no updates do your calcs and then correlate that's how science is done. Measure twice cut once.
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WHAT PROGRAM? I used multiple programs in the above video. Neither of them update themselves automatically over the internet.
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List your programs I'll check if they update
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List your programs I'll check if they update
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Did you even watch the video? I specifically stated what both of them were.

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List your programs I'll check if they update
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Did you even watch the video? I specifically stated what both of them were.
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A minute ago you said:
That program updates over the Internet
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You pretended to know which program you were talking about, and you pretended to know that it updated itself online. Busted.
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List your programs I'll check if they update
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Did you even watch the video? I specifically stated what both of them were.
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A minute ago you said:
That program updates over the Internet
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You pretended to know which program you were talking about, and you pretended to know that it updated itself online. Busted.
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If its only those two programs than yes they open ports to Akamai technologies which is a update warehouse for software, I was under the assumption multiple ment many not two.

So ya... I checked the ones in the vids do a netstat in the cmd prompt, or download netstat agent.

Don't be a duche. Just reinstall and plug in your variables if they match no worries if they don't match someone is futzing with the calculations.
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My son is in the RAF and has been placed on high alert for home-land security ' quoting disaster emergency relief'. He can't say what for but the U.K military has been placed on high alert for an immediate reediness.

I am not a troll or rumor fear monger, the only thing I can think of is this asteroid closing in on earth. They are not getting ready for war, but home land emergency relief.
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Isn't 2012DA14 meant to go past his month on the 14th?? or was it later?? Can anyone give an idea of time on this. I leave on the coast and I might take my kids inland just in case.
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2012 DA14 is seen passing close to Earth on Feb. 15, 2013

[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]

Be here the 15th!

Earth Impact Risk Summary!

Impact Probability 1.3e-10

Which means from link 0.000000013% chance of Earth impact or

1 in 7,692,308,000 chance

or

99.99999999% chance the asteroid will miss the Earth.

So according to them there is a chance, even if its less than 1%.

[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]

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List your programs I'll check if they update
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Did you even watch the video? I specifically stated what both of them were.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


A minute ago you said:
That program updates over the Internet
 Quoting: AC

You pretended to know which program you were talking about, and you pretended to know that it updated itself online. Busted.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


If its only those two programs than yes they open ports to Akamai technologies which is a update warehouse for software, I was under the assumption multiple ment many not two.
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No, they do not automatically update themselves. I'm still running an old version of FindOrb on my desktop and it has never changed itself. I'm running a slightly newer version on my laptop, but it yields the same results as using the desktop.
Don't be a duche. Just reinstall and plug in your variables if they match no worries if they don't match someone is futzing with the calculations.
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You clearly have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I know for a fact that they do not update themselves. You were busted, don't be all butt hurt about it.
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Did you even watch the video? I specifically stated what both of them were.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


A minute ago you said:
That program updates over the Internet
 Quoting: AC

You pretended to know which program you were talking about, and you pretended to know that it updated itself online. Busted.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


If its only those two programs than yes they open ports to Akamai technologies which is a update warehouse for software, I was under the assumption multiple ment many not two.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16663041

No, they do not automatically update themselves. I'm still running an old version of FindOrb on my desktop and it has never changed itself. I'm running a slightly newer version on my laptop, but it yields the same results as using the desktop.
Don't be a duche. Just reinstall and plug in your variables if they match no worries if they don't match someone is futzing with the calculations.
 Quoting: AC

You clearly have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I know for a fact that they do not update themselves. You were busted, don't be all butt hurt about it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


And if you actually watched the video to begin with you would know that FindOrb performs its monte carlos solutions by adding gaussian noise to the data. That's deliberate. It'll never be the same twice because the noise is by its nature random. Only the general shape of the distribution will be the same.
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I'm a computer expert not a astronomy expert and they do infant connect to the Internet for something.
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I'm a computer expert not a astronomy expert and they do infant connect to the Internet for something.
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Yeah, ORSA provides the ability to download asteroid orbital elements, etc if desired by the user. Neither of them automatically update themselves, however. Both are open source as well, so if you claim it does, then show me where in the source code it does.
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physic law just say that the speed of falling is the same for every mass.
 Quoting: French Coward 34240632

Do you understand why that is?
(And it's acceleration of falling, btw.)

but if this asteroid is bigger, its trajectory will be altered by earth gravity. and alter this asteroid speed too
 Quoting: French Coward 34240632

Big cannonball, small cannonball. Drop them and they will hit the ground at the same moment.
Big asteroid, small asteroid. Falling at the same acceleration towards Earth.

In orbital mechanics when one object has insignificant mass compared to the primary its mass can be ignored in the calculations.
You still get accurate results.

The reason for this is that smaller object doesn't have any effect on the primary, IOW the asteroid doesn't move Earth closer to it, it is only Earth that pulls the asteroid closer to it.
And we know exactly how much.
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Don't be a duche. Just reinstall and plug in your variables if they match no worries if they don't match someone is futzing with the calculations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16663041

It's easy enough to check if the math module of such software still works correctly.
If it were EVERY POSITION given for EVERY OTHER CELESTIAL BODY would be WRONG.
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DR Astro, tell me where you got your dr degree from and I will tell you where I got mine.

Let me go first.

UT Austin.

OK, show and tell DR. Astro.
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This information was found on [link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

(2012 DA14) 14th February 2013 3 day(s) 0.0002 0.09 35 m - 79 m 7.78 km/s 28008 km/h

and the JPL database:

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

Be Love!
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hmm, why does the RSOE EDIS page show 2012 DA14 arriving on the 14th of February? when it's widely stated to be due just after 11:30am Pacific (U.S. West Coast) Standard Time on the 15th?

Here's the line of data there:
(2012 DA14)

14th February 2013

3 day(s)

0.0002

0.09

35 m - 79 m

7.78 km/s

28008 km/h

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This information was found on [link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

(2012 DA14) 14th February 2013 3 day(s) 0.0002 0.09 35 m - 79 m 7.78 km/s 28008 km/h

and the JPL database:

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

Be Love!
 Quoting: RealmLady50


hmm, why does the RSOE EDIS page show 2012 DA14 arriving on the 14th of February? when it's widely stated to be due just after 11:30am Pacific (U.S. West Coast) Standard Time on the 15th?

Here's the line of data there:
(2012 DA14)

14th February 2013

3 day(s)

0.0002

0.09

35 m - 79 m

7.78 km/s

28008 km/h
 Quoting: eos


because it says at the bottom that it draws the data from neo NASA but here is what NASA neo site has:

(2012 DA14) 2013-Feb-15 0.0002 0.09 40 m - 90 m 24.1 7.82
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I am so tired of people trying to prove Dr. Astro wrong without doing a tenth of the work he puts into his posts.

If you think his calculations are wrong, run them yourself, and post them, so they can be checked. Don't just complain you think his program updates over the internet or pretend you have a degree so you must have a point.
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Do we have a live feed link for this yet, or is it too early?
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How big is this thing
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half the size of a football field. certainly big enough to kill millions if it impacts a populated area.

remember this thing will be traveling approx. 10-12 thousand km/per hour upon its impact.
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10 -12,000 km per second.. not hour...



bump
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right , sorry , im so shook up over this my mind is going a million miles per hour.. im suffering very bad panic attacks and have been all day since i got the scoop
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it's a very small object though. Compared to the earth that is. Chances are, even if it did hit, it would be no where near you or me. Imagine a football field, then imagine throwing a rock onto the field. Where it lands, is the same chance of it landing near you. No worries friend. We'll live to see another day.
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i see no one has commented on my observation that there are two different lines of data publicly displayed as being sourced from NASA Near Earth Object Program.

Dr Astro??? any comments??

are these NASA feeds clean and up to date, or is this a little typo?
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DR Astro, tell me where you got your dr degree from and I will tell you where I got mine.

Let me go first.

UT Austin.

OK, show and tell DR. Astro.
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If I told you, 5 seconds of googling would reveal my name and address since very, very few people in my state get a PhD through this particular university. As a result, it was somewhat newsworthy when I entered the program. In fact the third link took me almost right to myself. The information from there can be used to narrow me down to one of two people and since only one of the two of us successfully completed the program, it narrows it the rest of the way down right to me.

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i see no one has commented on my observation that there are two different lines of data publicly displayed as being sourced from NASA Near Earth Object Program.

Dr Astro??? any comments??

are these NASA feeds clean and up to date, or is this a little typo?
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Well NASA's site only has one line of data.
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DR Astro, tell me where you got your dr degree from and I will tell you where I got mine.

Let me go first.

UT Austin.

OK, show and tell DR. Astro.
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If I told you, 5 seconds of googling would reveal my name and address since very, very few people in my state get a PhD through this particular university. As a result, it was somewhat newsworthy when I entered the program. In fact the third link took me almost right to myself.
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That's like me somehow.

Here we run an ensemble cast of "doomsday players"

Not "role players".

Hope you are OK.

Me, very busy lately.


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oh no, not more date fixing bullshit, elenin has come and gone fuck all happened
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take it or leave it.

it is what it is.
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That would be BS then.....
What you think there are not a zillion astronomers tracking this thing?
You must be about 14 years old.
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My uncle's sister's brother's gay cousin works at NASA and said DA14 is going to strike the Earth. My father's brother's mother's neighbor's boss works for the CIA and is warning insiders that DA14 will be a huge disaster. They're both reliable sources of information.

Be prepared!
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My uncle's sister's brother's gay cousin works at NASA and said DA14 is going to strike the Earth. My father's brother's mother's neighbor's boss works for the CIA and is warning insiders that DA14 will be a huge disaster. They're both reliable sources of information.

Be prepared!

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Your father's brother's mother's neighbor's boss is my uncle. And that is enough to confirm the imminent doom.
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Where and when is it going to hit!?
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