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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/05/2013 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just found your thread, and thought you might want Quoting: SilentlyKnowing to check out the one I'm running today I love this part: "The really Quoting: SilentlyKnowingtroubling part comes at 3:34 min. pt. "Arizona's telescope will ping ALMOST EVERYDAY between 2-16 to 2-20-13. This is their way of letting us know that THEY PROBABLY WILL NOT BE TRACKING IT (since it is supposed to impact on 2-15-2013, and 2-16-2013 will be AFTER the fact!)" Rather than jumping to ridiculous conclusions and assuming bad motives in others, how about informing yourself first. Then you won't end up making ignorant posts; it will NOT impact us and it is approaching from the south to the north; it won't be visible to any telescopes in Arizona until well after it passes the point of closest approach on the 15th! It doesn't even get 20 degrees high up in the sky in Arizona until the 16th GMT time (the timezone of astronomy). It's not a secret message, it's basic astronomy. Look up the azimuth and altitude of this asteroid at every hour over the next few days as seen from Arizona and you'll see what I mean (yes, you'll need to adjust the table settings to include apparent az, alt): [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Wow! Now THAT was harsh, Dr. Astro. You needed to hear it. Did you even do as I suggested and check for yourself when the asteroid can be seen from Arizona? You can continue to spew all the woo woo nonsense you want, I won't stop you, but do know that it is just nonsense. When it fails to hit us on the 15th, despite your "occult beliefs" to the contrary, I wonder if you'll come back here and admit that you were completely wrong? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6185582 United States 02/05/2013 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, but you don't really seem to understand the facts that you're quoting. As a result, you're misrepresenting them. The condition code is the confidence levl the reporting agency has on their predicted orbit. Which has nothing to do with how many LD's a future close approach will be. You show your ignorance over and over again. It does not take a rocket scientist, or you for that matter to realize that there is a tremendous difference between 58 LDs and 0.09 LDs. In fact I don't even follow asteroids that are 58 LDs away.... Quoting: TS66I also gave you another example which was about 31 LDs. You ignored it and pretended it was a completely different asteroid. If you're selecting for asteroids that are only .09 LDs away then you are self-selecting for asteroids that are newly found and have not been observed before and therefore have a higher condition code. I'm not saying this thing will hit, I am saying that this confidence code is arrogant if not an opioid of the masses at best. Quoting: TS66Well you're dead wrong. I've done the analysis on the astrometric data myself. In fact right now my laptop is calculating a series of solutions based solely on amateur data, but if all data is included as JPL does, then the orbital determination is very precise. So I should take your word for it because you are one of the angriest, most mean spirited people here on GLP, and because of it your laptop is right ??? Let's agree to disagree on this one, it is both our prerogative. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/05/2013 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: phoomp Yes, but you don't really seem to understand the facts that you're quoting. As a result, you're misrepresenting them. The condition code is the confidence levl the reporting agency has on their predicted orbit. Which has nothing to do with how many LD's a future close approach will be. You show your ignorance over and over again. It does not take a rocket scientist, or you for that matter to realize that there is a tremendous difference between 58 LDs and 0.09 LDs. In fact I don't even follow asteroids that are 58 LDs away.... Quoting: TS66I also gave you another example which was about 31 LDs. You ignored it and pretended it was a completely different asteroid. If you're selecting for asteroids that are only .09 LDs away then you are self-selecting for asteroids that are newly found and have not been observed before and therefore have a higher condition code. I'm not saying this thing will hit, I am saying that this confidence code is arrogant if not an opioid of the masses at best. Quoting: TS66Well you're dead wrong. I've done the analysis on the astrometric data myself. In fact right now my laptop is calculating a series of solutions based solely on amateur data, but if all data is included as JPL does, then the orbital determination is very precise. So I should take your word for it because you are one of the angriest, most mean spirited people here on GLP, and because of it your laptop is right ??? Let's agree to disagree on this one, it is both our prerogative. No, if you doubt me you should check what I said for yourself by doing the analysis of the astrometric data for yourself. A variety of tools are out there that you can use for that purpose. But since you have decided to do nothing but sit there and insult me even as I provide facts and evidence as well as free analysis of the data, you will probably learn nothing. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6185582 United States 02/05/2013 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TS66 The condition code is the confidence levl the reporting agency has on their predicted orbit. Which has nothing to do with how many LD's a future close approach will be. You show your ignorance over and over again. It does not take a rocket scientist, or you for that matter to realize that there is a tremendous difference between 58 LDs and 0.09 LDs. In fact I don't even follow asteroids that are 58 LDs away.... Quoting: TS66I also gave you another example which was about 31 LDs. You ignored it and pretended it was a completely different asteroid. If you're selecting for asteroids that are only .09 LDs away then you are self-selecting for asteroids that are newly found and have not been observed before and therefore have a higher condition code. I'm not saying this thing will hit, I am saying that this confidence code is arrogant if not an opioid of the masses at best. Quoting: TS66Well you're dead wrong. I've done the analysis on the astrometric data myself. In fact right now my laptop is calculating a series of solutions based solely on amateur data, but if all data is included as JPL does, then the orbital determination is very precise. So I should take your word for it because you are one of the angriest, most mean spirited people here on GLP, and because of it your laptop is right ??? Let's agree to disagree on this one, it is both our prerogative. No, if you doubt me you should check what I said for yourself by doing the analysis of the astrometric data for yourself. A variety of tools are out there that you can use for that purpose. But since you have decided to do nothing but sit there and insult me even as I provide facts and evidence as well as free analysis of the data, you will probably learn nothing. I respect you, for what you do and the work you put into this, don't get me wrong .... but to believe you have all the answers, by calling everyone else a fool, tells me you are only trying to convince yourself |
SilentlyKnowing User ID: 27028191 United States 02/05/2013 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is always Clumpy Cat Litter on the Board when things get a little to close to the truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19653424 This could do alot of stuff. Nobody knows but Nasa and they would not tell us cause there is nothing they can do about it. They haven't got the technology yetto paint it or shoot it and really the way they fuck things up I would rather just take my chances and have it hit. What were they putting up the other day that didn't make it on the back of that Russian Rocket. The timing seems suspect. I loved your expression "CLUMPY CAT LITTER"--lol! That is so very true. It is also amazing to me how the SHILLS try to push theads like this and other NEWS WORTHY threads off the front pages. I even KNEW what I was looking for and had to go through 3 pages to get back to this thread having only left it for about 5 minutes! It really makes me furious-- and the things that bury something CRITICAL like this thread are things like: "What to do when you find a wallet" and "I felt so sorry for this dog." I mean....it's so obvious. Anyways, the closer to the truth this thread gets, the more it will be attacked. Just the way it goes. Thanks for the laugh, though. It was really good! Cheers! SK |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/05/2013 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Which has nothing to do with how many LD's a future close approach will be. You show your ignorance over and over again. ... I also gave you another example which was about 31 LDs. You ignored it and pretended it was a completely different asteroid. If you're selecting for asteroids that are only .09 LDs away then you are self-selecting for asteroids that are newly found and have not been observed before and therefore have a higher condition code. ... Well you're dead wrong. I've done the analysis on the astrometric data myself. In fact right now my laptop is calculating a series of solutions based solely on amateur data, but if all data is included as JPL does, then the orbital determination is very precise. So I should take your word for it because you are one of the angriest, most mean spirited people here on GLP, and because of it your laptop is right ??? Let's agree to disagree on this one, it is both our prerogative. No, if you doubt me you should check what I said for yourself by doing the analysis of the astrometric data for yourself. A variety of tools are out there that you can use for that purpose. But since you have decided to do nothing but sit there and insult me even as I provide facts and evidence as well as free analysis of the data, you will probably learn nothing. I respect you, for what you do and the work you put into this, don't get me wrong .... but to believe you have all the answers, by calling everyone else a fool, tells me you are only trying to convince yourself I did not call you a fool. But you have chosen to learn nothing here. That is your choice. I don't have all the answers, nor have I ever claimed to. I do have some answers though, including where this asteroid is headed in 10 days. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/05/2013 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is also amazing to me Quoting: SilentlyKnowing how the SHILLS try to push theads like this and other NEWS WORTHY threads off the front pages. Oh yeah, that's it, it's allllll a conspiracy and people like me are just "shills." No wonder certain people here never learn anything, they automatically dismiss those who are informed and disagree with them. |
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eos User ID: 29094041 United States 02/05/2013 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF! This is the explanation vid from that jpl link... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33702759 A VIRTUAL Asteroid?? [link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov] awesome gif, good find. i think they said that so it wouldn't be re-posted like we have three or more coming in, so they could show the virtual locations of multiple possibilities in a model. --------------------------------eos--------------------------------------- the first will be last, the last first, captivity captive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33508203 United Kingdom 02/05/2013 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have scientists ever been wrong about their initial calculations involving a near earth object? Quoting: LunaHominem What is the margin of error for calculations involving the orbit of DA14? Are NASA's calculations concerning DA14 public? look, what the HELL would Nasa GAIN from keeping something like this SECRET? it's not even BIG rock ffs! If it was 10 miles wide, then yes, cos it would wipe every last one of us out, and retribution would not be possible. say they HAVE lied about it, and it DOES hit a city, killing a million people. What do you think would happen to the obfuscaters? hmmm? yep, that's right, they'd be LYNCHED! when they SAY there's no chance, there is NO CHANCE, and that's that! we get this every single time a pebble flies past us, and tbh, it's getting a bit fucking boring now. |
SilentlyKnowing User ID: 27028191 United States 02/05/2013 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just found your thread, and thought you might want Quoting: SilentlyKnowing to check out the one I'm running today I love this part: "The really Quoting: SilentlyKnowingtroubling part comes at 3:34 min. pt. "Arizona's telescope will ping ALMOST EVERYDAY between 2-16 to 2-20-13. This is their way of letting us know that THEY PROBABLY WILL NOT BE TRACKING IT (since it is supposed to impact on 2-15-2013, and 2-16-2013 will be AFTER the fact!)" Rather than jumping to ridiculous conclusions and assuming bad motives in others, how about informing yourself first. Then you won't end up making ignorant posts; it will NOT impact us and it is approaching from the south to the north; it won't be visible to any telescopes in Arizona until well after it passes the point of closest approach on the 15th! It doesn't even get 20 degrees high up in the sky in Arizona until the 16th GMT time (the timezone of astronomy). It's not a secret message, it's basic astronomy. Look up the azimuth and altitude of this asteroid at every hour over the next few days as seen from Arizona and you'll see what I mean (yes, you'll need to adjust the table settings to include apparent az, alt): [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Wow! Now THAT was harsh, Dr. Astro. You needed to hear it. Did you even do as I suggested and check for yourself when the asteroid can be seen from Arizona? You can continue to spew all the woo woo nonsense you want, I won't stop you, but do know that it is just nonsense. When it fails to hit us on the 15th, despite your "occult beliefs" to the contrary, I wonder if you'll come back here and admit that you were completely wrong? Sorry....I don't need to hear anything from you. You do not inform...and you don't threaten my ego by calling me names. However, you do show a great deal about your social skills, there, doc! I put my thread up about what I felt was an embedded "code"--a possible date (2-15-2013) that links in with this poster's thread. The movie "Deep Impact" could very well have had some psy-op material in it. AND....I am NOT the first to find remarkable synchronicity where Life imitates ART in these films--and the phenomenon is well proven. Are you asking me to come back to the thread and admit that the code I found was wrong? I have no problem with that at all! I am not living and breathing on the basis of whether I am right or wrong. Apparently, you are, though! Here is a tool that I think you should master FIRST before you do anything more with that telescope of yours! Cheers! Thanks for the thread! SK |
eos User ID: 29094041 United States 02/05/2013 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if it hits a piece of space junk would that change the trajectory of DA14? Quoting: TheMacaroni whew, i know right. at 12,000mpsec, anything it hits is space splinters, each with its own trajectory. and where is the moon in all this. god protect her, and us. let us be humbled, but not completely killed. it returns to more northerly route in april if still intact, and then every seven years. out of nowhere, wrath of god. however, small to spare complete distruction--just a rock the size of half a block? enough to humble, so we are told. if god can do this out of nowhere, i don't need to be afraid. just be ready to see the power of god. --------------------------------eos--------------------------------------- the first will be last, the last first, captivity captive. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6185582 United States 02/05/2013 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have scientists ever been wrong about their initial calculations involving a near earth object? Quoting: LunaHominem What is the margin of error for calculations involving the orbit of DA14? Are NASA's calculations concerning DA14 public? [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] |
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Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 02/05/2013 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Basing one's opinion on ignorance is a rather foolish thing to do. Astro, this thread will be your downfall on here. Sorry, you did it to yourself Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22948885 Said the AC who's never been right about anything in his life. You blithering idiots haven't said anything which isn't provably wrong. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33742158 United States 02/05/2013 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have scientists ever been wrong about their initial calculations involving a near earth object? Quoting: LunaHominem What is the margin of error for calculations involving the orbit of DA14? Are NASA's calculations concerning DA14 public? [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] English, please. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33750836 United Kingdom 02/05/2013 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro knows his stuff and he has worked out this asteroid will miss he ain't got anything to gain saying otherwise ,think i would prefer to believe commonsense than conspiracy this time, and the governments would never tell us anything even if it was gonna hit so i find that hard too believe ,altho i was driving today and the numberplate of the car in front had ELE as part of it soooo was it foretelling me something. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6185582 United States 02/05/2013 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have scientists ever been wrong about their initial calculations involving a near earth object? Quoting: LunaHominem What is the margin of error for calculations involving the orbit of DA14? Are NASA's calculations concerning DA14 public? [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] English, please. It's the public site you asked for ??? Click a few things, it's self explanatory. |