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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22948885 United States 02/05/2013 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Basing one's opinion on ignorance is a rather foolish thing to do. Astro, this thread will be your downfall on here. Sorry, you did it to yourself Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22948885 Said the AC who's never been right about anything in his life. You blithering idiots haven't said anything which isn't provably wrong. Damn, you much be psychic or something... I mean, it must be a gift being able to post stuff that is perfectly applicable to you as well lol. Dumbass troll You identify with shit (your avatar), so you must be well acquainted with it. That is all I have to give for you, good day!! |
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Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 02/05/2013 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im just passing on information that just came availible this evening, it was not suspected to impact until earlier. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7052443 You act like there aren't thousands of highly skilled and qualified professionals and amateurs watching this thing minute by minute. You only post this crap where there are crowds of mushy minded people. So what if they're watching..? What difference does that make..? And you call others mushy-minded. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33753510 United States 02/05/2013 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It says eastern Europe and Asia will be able to see it but not the US [link to www.cnn.com] CNN) -- Look out for Asteroid 2012 DA14. It is heading toward Earth at 17,450 miles per hour, according to NASA, and the tug of our planet's gravitational field will cause it to accelerate when it gets here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6185582 United States 02/05/2013 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im just passing on information that just came availible this evening, it was not suspected to impact until earlier. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7052443 You act like there aren't thousands of highly skilled and qualified professionals and amateurs watching this thing minute by minute. You only post this crap where there are crowds of mushy minded people. So what if they're watching..? What difference does that make..? And you call others mushy-minded. Interesting mushy-minded = thinking, researching for yourself ... yes we should just shut up listen to the experts here ... Definitely. :eyes1: |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/05/2013 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im just passing on information that just came availible this evening, it was not suspected to impact until earlier. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7052443 You act like there aren't thousands of highly skilled and qualified professionals and amateurs watching this thing minute by minute. You only post this crap where there are crowds of mushy minded people. So what if they're watching..? What difference does that make..? It means we can monitor the orbit based on just amateur data alone as well as confirm that the professional data is in agreement with amateur data. Duh. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20589235 United States 02/05/2013 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the actual data has been covered up due to the possibility off mass hysteria/civil unrest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7052443 they have figured out that the gravitational pull will bring this sucker in. source? i have a friend that works at MIT MY SOURCE .... who works at a Glue Factory Kentucky says "Don't Worry ... Be Happy". I'll take him statement on this over your MIT guy EVERY day of the week. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/05/2013 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro I love this part: ... Rather than jumping to ridiculous conclusions and assuming bad motives in others, how about informing yourself first. Then you won't end up making ignorant posts; it will NOT impact us and it is approaching from the south to the north; it won't be visible to any telescopes in Arizona until well after it passes the point of closest approach on the 15th! It doesn't even get 20 degrees high up in the sky in Arizona until the 16th GMT time (the timezone of astronomy). It's not a secret message, it's basic astronomy. Look up the azimuth and altitude of this asteroid at every hour over the next few days as seen from Arizona and you'll see what I mean (yes, you'll need to adjust the table settings to include apparent az, alt): [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Wow! Now THAT was harsh, Dr. Astro. You needed to hear it. Did you even do as I suggested and check for yourself when the asteroid can be seen from Arizona? You can continue to spew all the woo woo nonsense you want, I won't stop you, but do know that it is just nonsense. When it fails to hit us on the 15th, despite your "occult beliefs" to the contrary, I wonder if you'll come back here and admit that you were completely wrong? Sorry....I don't need to hear anything from you. You do not inform... Yes, I do. Thread: 2012 DA14 - Satellite Collision Risk - Now Ruled Out with New Data on Page 2!!! Now, who else here informed you of which specific satellites might be at risk, if indeed any are? No one. No one at all. So do not tell that I do not inform people. The movie "Deep Impact" could very well have had some psy-op material in it. Quoting: silentThat's what they said about Elenin. Over and over... Then when that failed they said it about 2005 YU55... Then when that failed, now they say it about 2012 DA14. It never changes and some people never learn. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/05/2013 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro, this thread will be your downfall on here. Sorry, you did it to yourself Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22948885 Oh really? That's exactly what people like you said to me during the Elenin hysteria, then the 2005 YU55 hysteria, then the 2012 hysteria, now the 2012 DA14 hysteria. We'll see who was right and who was wrong in 10 days. I am going to thoroughly enjoy watching you guys rage out when I post pics/video of it safely leaving the vicinity of earth. |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 02/05/2013 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im just passing on information that just came availible this evening, it was not suspected to impact until earlier. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7052443 You act like there aren't thousands of highly skilled and qualified professionals and amateurs watching this thing minute by minute. You only post this crap where there are crowds of mushy minded people. So what if they're watching..? What difference does that make..? It means we can monitor the orbit based on just amateur data alone as well as confirm that the professional data is in agreement with amateur data. Duh. Duh. Again.. what difference does it make..? Unless a person has access to the data, the ability to use it and the credentials to back it up.. with a major public statement.. it is merely words on a page. Even if someone did that.. and they have... there are believers and detractors. Prez O stated unequivocally that the US would not see any contamination from Fuku.. Obviously, he was talking like a fish with a paper asshole. Anybody here on this forum can say anything about anything.. means little. I think that's why they have the disclaimer.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29014015 United States 02/05/2013 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im just passing on information that just came availible this evening, it was not suspected to impact until earlier. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7052443 You act like there aren't thousands of highly skilled and qualified professionals and amateurs watching this thing minute by minute. You only post this crap where there are crowds of mushy minded people. So what if they're watching..? What difference does that make..? It means we can monitor the orbit based on just amateur data alone as well as confirm that the professional data is in agreement with amateur data. Duh. [link to echo.jpl.nasa.gov] |
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Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 02/05/2013 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5036819 You act like there aren't thousands of highly skilled and qualified professionals and amateurs watching this thing minute by minute. You only post this crap where there are crowds of mushy minded people. So what if they're watching..? What difference does that make..? It means we can monitor the orbit based on just amateur data alone as well as confirm that the professional data is in agreement with amateur data. Duh. [link to echo.jpl.nasa.gov] Interesting. [snip] The uncertainties in plane-of-sky position, Doppler frequency, and time delay will grow dramatically during the approach, but even so, this object cannot impact Earth during this encounter. We need additional astrometry to improve the orbit. As a result, below we list circumstances for optical observations starting many months before the encounter in order to help facilitate observations by optical observers. The apparent magnitudes will be fainter than 22nd until until the beginning of February, but the solar elongation will be only about 60 degrees, so obtaining optical astrometry will be challenging. In addition, the asteroid will be at far southern declinations until Feb. 15 when it will move from about -75 deg to +75 deg in only a few hours. |
Dr. Acula Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 5240 United States 02/05/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | morning doomtards! You still believing this horseshit?! i just wanted to drop in and and Last Edited by Dr. Acula on 02/05/2013 04:51 PM _______________________ |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/05/2013 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5036819 You act like there aren't thousands of highly skilled and qualified professionals and amateurs watching this thing minute by minute. You only post this crap where there are crowds of mushy minded people. So what if they're watching..? What difference does that make..? It means we can monitor the orbit based on just amateur data alone as well as confirm that the professional data is in agreement with amateur data. Duh. Duh. Again.. what difference does it make..? Unless a person has access to the data, the ability to use it and the credentials to back it up.. Everyone can access the data if they want it. If you're too stupid to use it, well I can't help you there, but not all of us are that stupid. Even if someone did that.. and they have... there are believers and detractors. Quoting: waterbugThat does not matter. If you believe that my analysis is false or fake it's up to you to prove it. The burden of proof is on the claimant. It has been shown repeatedly that this asteroid will not hit us. If someone wishes to show otherwise the ball is in their court. Even if all they want to do is instill fear and doubt, the ball is still in their court to show that there is something wrong with the analysis. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5036819 United States 02/05/2013 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im just passing on information that just came availible this evening, it was not suspected to impact until earlier. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7052443 You act like there aren't thousands of highly skilled and qualified professionals and amateurs watching this thing minute by minute. You only post this crap where there are crowds of mushy minded people. So what if they're watching..? What difference does that make..? And you call others mushy-minded. If it deviated one little bit, they'd run over their children and pets to be the first one to report it. If it were going to strike the Earth and they reported it first, they'd get their name on it. They'd be THE rockstars of their peers. NO WAY could information such as you suggest be hidden. Even in little tiny towns there are amateur astronomers with backyard observatories watching and calculatining every night hoping they see something first so they can get some glory. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/05/2013 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means we can monitor the orbit based on just amateur data alone as well as confirm that the professional data is in agreement with amateur data. Duh. [link to echo.jpl.nasa.gov] Interesting. [snip] The uncertainties in plane-of-sky position, Doppler frequency, and time delay will grow dramatically during the approach, but even so, this object cannot impact Earth during this encounter. We need additional astrometry to improve the orbit. As a result, below we list circumstances for optical observations starting many months before the encounter in order to help facilitate observations by optical observers. The apparent magnitudes will be fainter than 22nd until until the beginning of February, but the solar elongation will be only about 60 degrees, so obtaining optical astrometry will be challenging. In addition, the asteroid will be at far southern declinations until Feb. 15 when it will move from about -75 deg to +75 deg in only a few hours. What's your point? I said some time ago that Arizona (in other words, northern hemisphere locations) won't be able to see it until late on the 15th. I've also shown repeatedly in my videos that the uncertainty starts to increase after the close approach due to earth's gravity being such a strong factor. Neither of those things indicate any uncertainty in whether the damn thing is going to hit us this time or not. And thanks to new astrometry last month from the southern hemisphere we can rule out impact possibilities for nearly a hundred years. Of course this close approach provides a very important opportunity to collect much more astrometric data at a critical point in the object's orbit, so naturally they want as many to observe it as possible. This opportunity may help to nail down the orbit even farther into the future. |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 02/05/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means we can monitor the orbit based on just amateur data alone as well as confirm that the professional data is in agreement with amateur data. Duh. Duh. Again.. what difference does it make..? Unless a person has access to the data, the ability to use it and the credentials to back it up.. 'Everyone can access the data if they want it. If you're too stupid to use it, well I can't help you there, but not all of us are that stupid.' Hope that made you feel better. Well... I'm not going to swap nasties with you.. My expertise is not in astronomy.. it is music.. I don't call non-musicians stupid because they can't play an instrument expertly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22948885 United States 02/05/2013 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro It means we can monitor the orbit based on just amateur data alone as well as confirm that the professional data is in agreement with amateur data. Duh. [link to echo.jpl.nasa.gov] Interesting. [snip] The uncertainties in plane-of-sky position, Doppler frequency, and time delay will grow dramatically during the approach, but even so, this object cannot impact Earth during this encounter. We need additional astrometry to improve the orbit. As a result, below we list circumstances for optical observations starting many months before the encounter in order to help facilitate observations by optical observers. The apparent magnitudes will be fainter than 22nd until until the beginning of February, but the solar elongation will be only about 60 degrees, so obtaining optical astrometry will be challenging. In addition, the asteroid will be at far southern declinations until Feb. 15 when it will move from about -75 deg to +75 deg in only a few hours. What's your point? I said some time ago that Arizona (in other words, northern hemisphere locations) won't be able to see it until late on the 15th. I've also shown repeatedly in my videos that the uncertainty starts to increase after the close approach due to earth's gravity being such a strong factor. Neither of those things indicate any uncertainty in whether the damn thing is going to hit us this time or not. And thanks to new astrometry last month from the southern hemisphere we can rule out impact possibilities for nearly a hundred years. Of course this close approach provides a very important opportunity to collect much more astrometric data at a critical point in the object's orbit, so naturally they want as many to observe it as possible. This opportunity may help to nail down the orbit even farther into the future. Wasn't the op's entire point the trajectory information publicly available has been modified to show a relatively harmless course???? Wouldn't that mean all you are doing is promoting EXACTLY what the op said tptb WOULD promote until the time comes for "full" disclosure of the actual circumstance????? You're either gullible, narcissistic, egotistical, or have a very set agenda you can not stray away from, risk retribution from some higher source that gives you the ability to do and say with your level of "authority". My bet is placed on "all of the above"..... Get a life astro you made this thread what it is; op was done with it 13 pages ago bro.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5036819 United States 02/05/2013 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im just passing on information that just came availible this evening, it was not suspected to impact until earlier. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7052443 You act like there aren't thousands of highly skilled and qualified professionals and amateurs watching this thing minute by minute. You only post this crap where there are crowds of mushy minded people. So what if they're watching..? What difference does that make..? And you call others mushy-minded. If it were going to strike the Earth and the govt tried to keep NASA quiet, there would still be 30,000 backyard amateur astronomers who would know it and herald it to all the world all over the internet and fight each other over who knew it first and who gets to rename it after their wives. |
Dr. Acula Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 5240 United States 02/05/2013 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i love a good cup of doom as much as anyone :) but no doom here :( here is a poem dedicated to that lil critter of wrath come oh come puff ball of doom bring to us all your destruction and gloom come oh come share with us despair the hour draws near mother fuckers prepare! Last Edited by Dr. Acula on 02/05/2013 05:06 PM _______________________ |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/05/2013 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro It means we can monitor the orbit based on just amateur data alone as well as confirm that the professional data is in agreement with amateur data. Duh. Duh. Again.. what difference does it make..? Unless a person has access to the data, the ability to use it and the credentials to back it up.. 'Everyone can access the data if they want it. If you're too stupid to use it, well I can't help you there, but not all of us are that stupid.' Hope that made you feel better. Well... I'm not going to swap nasties with you.. My expertise is not in astronomy.. it is music.. I don't call non-musicians stupid because they can't play an instrument expertly. You act as if those who are interested and experienced in astronomy but are only amateurs and not professionals are too stupid to use it. |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 02/05/2013 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im just passing on information that just came availible this evening, it was not suspected to impact until earlier. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7052443 You act like there aren't thousands of highly skilled and qualified professionals and amateurs watching this thing minute by minute. You only post this crap where there are crowds of mushy minded people. So what if they're watching..? What difference does that make..? And you call others mushy-minded. If it deviated one little bit, they'd run over their children and pets to be the first one to report it. If it were going to strike the Earth and they reported it first, they'd get their name on it. They'd be THE rockstars of their peers. NO WAY could information such as you suggest be hidden. Even in little tiny towns there are amateur astronomers with backyard observatories watching and calculatining every night hoping they see something first so they can get some glory. IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. People will believe what they wish to believe. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5036819 United States 02/05/2013 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. [snip] The uncertainties in plane-of-sky position, Doppler frequency, and time delay will grow dramatically during the approach, but even so, this object cannot impact Earth during this encounter. We need additional astrometry to improve the orbit. As a result, below we list circumstances for optical observations starting many months before the encounter in order to help facilitate observations by optical observers. The apparent magnitudes will be fainter than 22nd until until the beginning of February, but the solar elongation will be only about 60 degrees, so obtaining optical astrometry will be challenging. In addition, the asteroid will be at far southern declinations until Feb. 15 when it will move from about -75 deg to +75 deg in only a few hours. What's your point? I said some time ago that Arizona (in other words, northern hemisphere locations) won't be able to see it until late on the 15th. I've also shown repeatedly in my videos that the uncertainty starts to increase after the close approach due to earth's gravity being such a strong factor. Neither of those things indicate any uncertainty in whether the damn thing is going to hit us this time or not. And thanks to new astrometry last month from the southern hemisphere we can rule out impact possibilities for nearly a hundred years. Of course this close approach provides a very important opportunity to collect much more astrometric data at a critical point in the object's orbit, so naturally they want as many to observe it as possible. This opportunity may help to nail down the orbit even farther into the future. Wasn't the op's entire point the trajectory information publicly available has been modified to show a relatively harmless course???? Wouldn't that mean all you are doing is promoting EXACTLY what the op said tptb WOULD promote until the time comes for "full" disclosure of the actual circumstance????? You're either gullible, narcissistic, egotistical, or have a very set agenda you can not stray away from, risk retribution from some higher source that gives you the ability to do and say with your level of "authority". My bet is placed on "all of the above"..... Get a life astro you made this thread what it is; op was done with it 13 pages ago bro.... There is one set of publicly available data. Each astronomer, professional and backyard does their own observations and has their own trajectory data. Ask your local astronomer. [link to www.astronomyclubs.com] by nation and astronomers JUST in Arkansas [link to www.astronomyclubs.com] There's a guy in my little hometown in Arkansas who's had several bodies named after him. His obseratory looks like a big toolshed, until he slides the roof off. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/05/2013 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasn't the op's entire point the trajectory information publicly available has been modified to show a relatively harmless course???? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22948885 Which is demonstrably wrong. Wouldn't that mean all you are doing is promoting EXACTLY what the op said tptb WOULD promote until the time comes for "full" disclosure of the actual circumstance????? Quoting: ACI'm promoting the truth. Just because the OP claims it's a conspiracy and everyone who says its not going to hit based on their analysis of the orbit is part of the conspiracy does not make it so. You're either gullible, narcissistic, egotistical, or have a very set agenda you can not stray away from, risk retribution from some higher source that gives you the ability to do and say with your level of "authority". Quoting: ACNone of the above. I know from doing the calculations for myself that the OP is wrong, particularly when they claim that people like me are part of the conspiracy. And when the OP is shown to be lying on the 15th, I will be here waiting for his apology. Get a life astro you made this thread what it is Quoting: ACAre you saying I'm responsible for this cluster fuck? No, you guys did that to yourselves, I'm just the dog who's eating out of your food bowl while you're busy fucking everything up. |