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2012 DA14 WILL hit earth.. Confirmed.

 
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Actually, there is a 0.03 chance it could hit the Earth. As Jim Carey would say, "So youre saying theres a chance."

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that is 1 in 3300 odds of hitting earth...

the odds of winning $100 playing powerball lottery are 1 in 12,244...

soooo... it is 4 times more likely earth will be hit by this than winning a measly hundred bucks in the lottery...

not liking those odds
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A) Those were the odds of an impact at any point in the future with the first possibility not occurring until 2020
B) Those were the odds nearly a year ago, before we had the much more extensive and recent astrometric data we now have. Those possibilities have since been eliminated.
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Actually, there is a 0.03 chance it could hit the Earth. As Jim Carey would say, "So youre saying theres a chance."

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 Quoting: Ford44


that is 1 in 3300 odds of hitting earth...

the odds of winning $100 playing powerball lottery are 1 in 12,244...

soooo... it is 4 times more likely earth will be hit by this than winning a measly hundred bucks in the lottery...

not liking those odds
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Actually that pretty good odds and I have one $100 in the lottery more than once so what does that mean?
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Wool then, Big Man! Answer or respond to every single opinion and question Son of PC posed to you that led you to rudely say he doesn't understand astronomy. Show us your stuff!
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Excuse me? You do not tell me what to do. It is not my job nor my desire to teach very basic astronomy to someone like that. You are in no position to tell me to respond to "every single opinion or question" of someone who doesn't understand hardly anything about astronomy. I have neither the time nor the desire to do that. I am highly inquisitive though, I do dig very deep when it comes to things like this asteroid's trajectory. That does not involve trying to fix someone else's fundamental misunderstandings. I may point out that they have those misunderstandings, but I am not here to get sidetracked on trying to fix that.
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I'm sorry, where's your calculation of this asteroid's orbit from astrometric data? Oh right, you haven't done any such calculations. Like I said, I'm one of the most inquiring minds on here, more so than you.
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Mathematically how much bigger or smaller would it have to be in mass to be pulled in by the earths gravity? or does it not work like that?
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Doesn't work like that. Earth's gravity will have the same effect regardless of how much mass the asteroid has. Mass of earth >>>>>>>>>>>> mass of an asteroid. The latter can therefore be disregarded. It's many orders of magnitude too small. If it were a significant fraction of the earth's mass or more massive than earth then it would become relevant to the calculations because it would noticeably pull earth towards itself, but the effect of earth's gravity on the asteroid would still not change.
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I'm confused now, isn't that a contradictory statement? You are saying that if the asteroid were large enough it would pull Earth toward ITSELF, but wouldn't the same logic hold that the Earth could pull the asteroid as well?
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Still waiting on your calculation of this asteroid's orbit from astrometric data. Get "Son of PC" to do it if you think he's so scientific and smart. Until then I'm still the only one who has presented a truly scientific analysis of this asteroid's trajectory. And on Friday I will be proven right.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


So funny how science can hide behind numbers.

You still could be wrong and your numbers are right. Shove off you shilling whore. If everyone is an idiot, why would you spend so many countless hours 'combating' them? For self gratification? Surely, show your real colors.

Science has killed more people on earth than all the dictators combined.

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Actually, there is a 0.03 chance it could hit the Earth. As Jim Carey would say, "So youre saying theres a chance."

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: Ford44


that is 1 in 3300 odds of hitting earth...

the odds of winning $100 playing powerball lottery are 1 in 12,244...

soooo... it is 4 times more likely earth will be hit by this than winning a measly hundred bucks in the lottery...

not liking those odds
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A) Those were the odds of an impact at any point in the future with the first possibility not occurring until 2020
B) Those were the odds nearly a year ago, before we had the much more extensive and recent astrometric data we now have. Those possibilities have since been eliminated.
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Just math shillin' to the rhythm of the night... :)
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Excuse me? You do not tell me what to do. It is not my job nor my desire to teach very basic astronomy to someone like that. You are in no position to tell me to respond to "every single opinion or question" of someone who doesn't understand hardly anything about astronomy. I have neither the time nor the desire to do that. I am highly inquisitive though, I do dig very deep when it comes to things like this asteroid's trajectory. That does not involve trying to fix someone else's fundamental misunderstandings. I may point out that they have those misunderstandings, but I am not here to get sidetracked on trying to fix that.
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I'm sorry, where's your calculation of this asteroid's orbit from astrometric data? Oh right, you haven't done any such calculations. Like I said, I'm one of the most inquiring minds on here, more so than you.
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Mathematically how much bigger or smaller would it have to be in mass to be pulled in by the earths gravity? or does it not work like that?
 Quoting: Keneh

Doesn't work like that. Earth's gravity will have the same effect regardless of how much mass the asteroid has. Mass of earth >>>>>>>>>>>> mass of an asteroid. The latter can therefore be disregarded. It's many orders of magnitude too small. If it were a significant fraction of the earth's mass or more massive than earth then it would become relevant to the calculations because it would noticeably pull earth towards itself, but the effect of earth's gravity on the asteroid would still not change.
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I'm confused now, isn't that a contradictory statement? You are saying that if the asteroid were large enough it would pull Earth toward ITSELF, but wouldn't the same logic hold that the Earth could pull the asteroid as well?
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It is going to pull on the asteroid, and that pull will be the same regardless of the asteroid's mass. It's already accounted for.
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Still waiting on your calculation of this asteroid's orbit from astrometric data. Get "Son of PC" to do it if you think he's so scientific and smart. Until then I'm still the only one who has presented a truly scientific analysis of this asteroid's trajectory. And on Friday I will be proven right.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


So funny how science can hide behind numbers.

You still could be wrong and your numbers are right. Shove off you shilling whore.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

Math is the language of science. It's not hiding behind it, it IS it. I have mathematically described the orbit of the asteroid. When on Friday that math is proven right I will be proven right as well.
If everyone is an idiot, why would you spend so many countless hours 'combating' them? For self gratification? Surely, show your real colors.
 Quoting: coa

I have to deal with idiots regardless of whether I combat them on here or not. The same people who write posts like yours exist in real life as well, and many others like them. I encounter them on a regular basis since I do a lot of astronomy outreach with my club. Having dealt with the bullshit on here I am able to rip it to shreds on the spot when I encounter it in real life, and it's mighty satisfying to do so.

More importantly though, in the process of debunking I refine my own skills and learn new ones I never would have bothered developing otherwise.
Science has killed more people on earth than all the dictators combined.
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Science didn't kill them, what people choose to do with science determines whether people are hurt or helped. If it weren't for science you wouldn't even be able to communicate with me right now. So take your anti-science bias and throw your computer out with the garbage right now. Live what you preach or cram it.
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Has anyone ever debunked David Dunham's assertions (as transcribed by Russia’s Izvestia) last year at Moscow’s University of Electronics and Mathematics that:


"The Earth’s gravitational field will alter the asteroid’s path significantly. Further scrupulous calculation is required to estimate the threat of collision. The asteroid may break into dozens of small pieces, or several large lumps may split from it and burn up in the atmosphere. The type of the asteroid and its mineral structure can be determined by spectral analysis. This will help predict its behavior in the atmosphere and what should be done to prevent the potential threat."

Also, I wonder what kind of influence Mercury' accelerating orbit has had on DA14?
 Quoting: LunaHominem


You again. See above. It won't hit earth. Even if it broke up the fragments would continue along the original orbit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You again.

So to translate: David Dunham's assertions have not been debunked.

Thanks!
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Math is the language of science. It's not hiding behind it, it IS it. I have mathematically described the orbit of the asteroid. When on Friday that math is proven right I will be proven right as well.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You most likely will, within a certain realm of probability. But yet again you prove sciences arrogant stance of NEVER being wrong. The first and final answer to things worldly and heavenly, odd how science strives so hard...

If everyone is an idiot, why would you spend so many countless hours 'combating' them? For self gratification? Surely, show your real colors.
 Quoting: coa

I have to deal with idiots regardless of whether I combat them on here or not. The same people who write posts like yours exist in real life as well, and many others like them. I encounter them on a regular basis since I do a lot of astronomy outreach with my club. Having dealt with the bullshit on here I am able to rip it to shreds on the spot when I encounter it in real life, and it's mighty satisfying to do so.
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clap

Well, good for you! Hopefully one day - you can apply it in a manner that is not so self-serving.

Science has killed more people on earth than all the dictators combined.
 Quoting: coa

Science didn't kill them, what people choose to do with science determines whether people are hurt or helped. If it weren't for science you wouldn't even be able to communicate with me right now. So take your anti-science bias and throw your computer out with the garbage right now. Live what you preach or cram it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


norespect

It has been science leading the path on all things controlling. From psychology to astronomy,, it seems to me that Sciences mere function is to usurp that of both Church and State.

I wouldn't be so ardent, if you weren't always so quick to try and 'humble' a doubter. My only conclusion is that within all reason, I hope that your vanity does not match the depth of your intellect.
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Has anyone ever debunked David Dunham's assertions (as transcribed by Russia’s Izvestia) last year at Moscow’s University of Electronics and Mathematics that:


"The Earth’s gravitational field will alter the asteroid’s path significantly. Further scrupulous calculation is required to estimate the threat of collision. The asteroid may break into dozens of small pieces, or several large lumps may split from it and burn up in the atmosphere. The type of the asteroid and its mineral structure can be determined by spectral analysis. This will help predict its behavior in the atmosphere and what should be done to prevent the potential threat."

Also, I wonder what kind of influence Mercury' accelerating orbit has had on DA14?
 Quoting: LunaHominem


You again. See above. It won't hit earth. Even if it broke up the fragments would continue along the original orbit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You again.

So to translate: David Dunham's assertions have not been debunked.

Thanks!
 Quoting: LunaHominem


Learn how to comprehend what you read. You failed. It won't hit earth. Even if it broke up the fragments would continue along the original orbit.
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Let us add the solar storm prediction that the msm actually announced would be likely this weekend. Whatever happens, it will be bigger than you thought. Go buy a tomato plant and bring it inside.
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Math is the language of science. It's not hiding behind it, it IS it. I have mathematically described the orbit of the asteroid. When on Friday that math is proven right I will be proven right as well.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You most likely will, within a certain realm of probability. But yet again you prove sciences arrogant stance of NEVER being wrong.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

Then you do not understand science, nor will you ever admit that I was right and that I knew what was going to happen. Thus you will never learn from your mistakes.
clap

Well, good for you! Hopefully one day - you can apply it in a manner that is not so self-serving.
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Do you have any fucking clue how much benefit I have served to the people here? I have freely provided countless hours of free viewing of the heavens, the only thing I have to show for that are several banned accounts on various video sharing sites that either thought I was broadcasting copyrighted material or to which I was reported as broadcasting inappropriate content and banned. I have freely provided countless analyses of the orbits of various objects in space, that has occupied my main computer for literally days at a time in some cases. I freely did all this and more, and while I did learn from the process of doing it and armed myself against the tards, it serves to benefit anyone who is willing to understand what I have presented and learn about it.
It has been science leading the path on all things controlling. From psychology to astronomy,, it seems to me that Sciences mere function is to usurp that of both Church and State.
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If that is truly how you feel, then throw your computer out the damn window along with all your other gadgets. Fucking anti-science luddite hypocrite.
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Actually, there is a 0.03 chance it could hit the Earth. As Jim Carey would say, "So youre saying theres a chance."

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: Ford44


that is 1 in 3300 odds of hitting earth...

the odds of winning $100 playing powerball lottery are 1 in 12,244...

soooo... it is 4 times more likely earth will be hit by this than winning a measly hundred bucks in the lottery...

not liking those odds
 Quoting: miked


A) Those were the odds of an impact at any point in the future with the first possibility not occurring until 2020
B) Those were the odds nearly a year ago, before we had the much more extensive and recent astrometric data we now have. Those possibilities have since been eliminated.
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wow you are so fucking boring
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Math is the language of science. It's not hiding behind it, it IS it. I have mathematically described the orbit of the asteroid. When on Friday that math is proven right I will be proven right as well.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You most likely will, within a certain realm of probability. But yet again you prove sciences arrogant stance of NEVER being wrong.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

Then you do not understand science, nor will you ever admit that I was right and that I knew what was going to happen. Thus you will never learn from your mistakes.
clap

Well, good for you! Hopefully one day - you can apply it in a manner that is not so self-serving.
 Quoting: CoA

Do you have any fucking clue how much benefit I have served to the people here? I have freely provided countless hours of free viewing of the heavens, the only thing I have to show for that are several banned accounts on various video sharing sites that either thought I was broadcasting copyrighted material or to which I was reported as broadcasting inappropriate content and banned. I have freely provided countless analyses of the orbits of various objects in space, that has occupied my main computer for literally days at a time in some cases. I freely did all this and more, and while I did learn from the process of doing it and armed myself against the tards, it serves to benefit anyone who is willing to understand what I have presented and learn about it.
It has been science leading the path on all things controlling. From psychology to astronomy,, it seems to me that Sciences mere function is to usurp that of both Church and State.
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If that is truly how you feel, then throw your computer out the damn window along with all your other gadgets. Fucking anti-science luddite hypocrite.
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Math is the language of science. It's not hiding behind it, it IS it. I have mathematically described the orbit of the asteroid. When on Friday that math is proven right I will be proven right as well.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You most likely will, within a certain realm of probability. But yet again you prove sciences arrogant stance of NEVER being wrong.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

Then you do not understand science, nor will you ever admit that I was right and that I knew what was going to happen. Thus you will never learn from your mistakes.
:clap:

Well, good for you! Hopefully one day - you can apply it in a manner that is not so self-serving.
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Do you have any fucking clue how much benefit I have served to the people here? I have freely provided countless hours of free viewing of the heavens, the only thing I have to show for that are several banned accounts on various video sharing sites that either thought I was broadcasting copyrighted material or to which I was reported as broadcasting inappropriate content and banned. I have freely provided countless analyses of the orbits of various objects in space, that has occupied my main computer for literally days at a time in some cases. I freely did all this and more, and while I did learn from the process of doing it and armed myself against the tards, it serves to benefit anyone who is willing to understand what I have presented and learn about it.
It has been science leading the path on all things controlling. From psychology to astronomy,, it seems to me that Sciences mere function is to usurp that of both Church and State.
 Quoting: coa

If that is truly how you feel, then throw your computer out the damn window along with all your other gadgets. Fucking anti-science luddite hypocrite.
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fuck you and your science dr.asswhipe

someday your going to be wrong and that will make you cry fucker
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Math is the language of science. It's not hiding behind it, it IS it. I have mathematically described the orbit of the asteroid. When on Friday that math is proven right I will be proven right as well.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You most likely will, within a certain realm of probability. But yet again you prove sciences arrogant stance of NEVER being wrong.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

Then you do not understand science, nor will you ever admit that I was right and that I knew what was going to happen. Thus you will never learn from your mistakes.
clap

Well, good for you! Hopefully one day - you can apply it in a manner that is not so self-serving.
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Do you have any fucking clue how much benefit I have served to the people here? I have freely provided countless hours of free viewing of the heavens, the only thing I have to show for that are several banned accounts on various video sharing sites that either thought I was broadcasting copyrighted material or to which I was reported as broadcasting inappropriate content and banned. I have freely provided countless analyses of the orbits of various objects in space, that has occupied my main computer for literally days at a time in some cases. I freely did all this and more, and while I did learn from the process of doing it and armed myself against the tards, it serves to benefit anyone who is willing to understand what I have presented and learn about it.
It has been science leading the path on all things controlling. From psychology to astronomy,, it seems to me that Sciences mere function is to usurp that of both Church and State.
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If that is truly how you feel, then throw your computer out the damn window along with all your other gadgets. Fucking anti-science luddite hypocrite.
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cruiselarge

Oh lord... clap

yessir

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Math is the language of science. It's not hiding behind it, it IS it. I have mathematically described the orbit of the asteroid. When on Friday that math is proven right I will be proven right as well.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You most likely will, within a certain realm of probability. But yet again you prove sciences arrogant stance of NEVER being wrong.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

Then you do not understand science, nor will you ever admit that I was right and that I knew what was going to happen. Thus you will never learn from your mistakes.
clap

Well, good for you! Hopefully one day - you can apply it in a manner that is not so self-serving.
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Do you have any fucking clue how much benefit I have served to the people here? I have freely provided countless hours of free viewing of the heavens, the only thing I have to show for that are several banned accounts on various video sharing sites that either thought I was broadcasting copyrighted material or to which I was reported as broadcasting inappropriate content and banned. I have freely provided countless analyses of the orbits of various objects in space, that has occupied my main computer for literally days at a time in some cases. I freely did all this and more, and while I did learn from the process of doing it and armed myself against the tards, it serves to benefit anyone who is willing to understand what I have presented and learn about it.
It has been science leading the path on all things controlling. From psychology to astronomy,, it seems to me that Sciences mere function is to usurp that of both Church and State.
 Quoting: coa

If that is truly how you feel, then throw your computer out the damn window along with all your other gadgets. Fucking anti-science luddite hypocrite.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


fuck you and your science dr.asswhipe

someday your going to be wrong and that will make you cry fucker
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csbrah
At least when I'm wrong I learn from my mistakes. That's part of the scientific process. But in this situation, not only have I provided my analysis of the orbit and why it won't hit, but I've also provided the methods used so that anyone else can check it for themselves if they don't believe or believe that I'm somehow wrong. So far no one has provided any such counter-analysis. Even now my critics are hedging their bets that I'm "probably" right.
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Has anyone ever debunked David Dunham's assertions (as transcribed by Russia’s Izvestia) last year at Moscow’s University of Electronics and Mathematics that:


"The Earth’s gravitational field will alter the asteroid’s path significantly. Further scrupulous calculation is required to estimate the threat of collision. The asteroid may break into dozens of small pieces, or several large lumps may split from it and burn up in the atmosphere. The type of the asteroid and its mineral structure can be determined by spectral analysis. This will help predict its behavior in the atmosphere and what should be done to prevent the potential threat."

Also, I wonder what kind of influence Mercury' accelerating orbit has had on DA14?
 Quoting: LunaHominem


You again. See above. It won't hit earth. Even if it broke up the fragments would continue along the original orbit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You again.

So to translate: David Dunham's assertions have not been debunked.

Thanks!
 Quoting: LunaHominem


Learn how to comprehend what you read. You failed. It won't hit earth. Even if it broke up the fragments would continue along the original orbit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Simma down na!

I don't have any problem with you asserting that DA14 will not hit.

Hopefully it does not hit. Duh.

But, please, don't pretend that you have in any way debunked David Dunham's assertions. You have simply countered them with your own assertions.

Try again.
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Let us add the solar storm prediction that the msm actually announced would be likely this weekend. Whatever happens, it will be bigger than you thought. Go buy a tomato plant and bring it inside.
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I just went to get a tomato plant and they were all sold out, the shelves are bare.

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You most likely will, within a certain realm of probability. But yet again you prove sciences arrogant stance of NEVER being wrong.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

Then you do not understand science, nor will you ever admit that I was right and that I knew what was going to happen. Thus you will never learn from your mistakes.
:clap:

Well, good for you! Hopefully one day - you can apply it in a manner that is not so self-serving.
 Quoting: CoA

Do you have any fucking clue how much benefit I have served to the people here? I have freely provided countless hours of free viewing of the heavens, the only thing I have to show for that are several banned accounts on various video sharing sites that either thought I was broadcasting copyrighted material or to which I was reported as broadcasting inappropriate content and banned. I have freely provided countless analyses of the orbits of various objects in space, that has occupied my main computer for literally days at a time in some cases. I freely did all this and more, and while I did learn from the process of doing it and armed myself against the tards, it serves to benefit anyone who is willing to understand what I have presented and learn about it.
It has been science leading the path on all things controlling. From psychology to astronomy,, it seems to me that Sciences mere function is to usurp that of both Church and State.
 Quoting: coa

If that is truly how you feel, then throw your computer out the damn window along with all your other gadgets. Fucking anti-science luddite hypocrite.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


fuck you and your science dr.asswhipe

someday your going to be wrong and that will make you cry fucker
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:csbrah:
At least when I'm wrong I learn from my mistakes. That's part of the scientific process. But in this situation, not only have I provided my analysis of the orbit and why it won't hit, but I've also provided the methods used so that anyone else can check it for themselves if they don't believe or believe that I'm somehow wrong. So far no one has provided any such counter-analysis. Even now my critics are hedging their bets that I'm "probably" right.
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i dont give a flying fuck about the orbit of that fucking asteroid nor do i give a fuck if it lands in your anus

i find you fucking annoying and obnoxious,i would like to smash your fucking face mate,dr.knowitallfag
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You most likely will, within a certain realm of probability. But yet again you prove sciences arrogant stance of NEVER being wrong.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

Then you do not understand science, nor will you ever admit that I was right and that I knew what was going to happen. Thus you will never learn from your mistakes.
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Well, good for you! Hopefully one day - you can apply it in a manner that is not so self-serving.
 Quoting: CoA

Do you have any fucking clue how much benefit I have served to the people here? I have freely provided countless hours of free viewing of the heavens, the only thing I have to show for that are several banned accounts on various video sharing sites that either thought I was broadcasting copyrighted material or to which I was reported as broadcasting inappropriate content and banned. I have freely provided countless analyses of the orbits of various objects in space, that has occupied my main computer for literally days at a time in some cases. I freely did all this and more, and while I did learn from the process of doing it and armed myself against the tards, it serves to benefit anyone who is willing to understand what I have presented and learn about it.
It has been science leading the path on all things controlling. From psychology to astronomy,, it seems to me that Sciences mere function is to usurp that of both Church and State.
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If that is truly how you feel, then throw your computer out the damn window along with all your other gadgets. Fucking anti-science luddite hypocrite.
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cruiselarge

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yessir

fuckyou
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wtfdog
dogshit
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coolstory



Found an old pic of ya bro!



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You again. See above. It won't hit earth. Even if it broke up the fragments would continue along the original orbit.
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You again.

So to translate: David Dunham's assertions have not been debunked.

Thanks!
 Quoting: LunaHominem


Learn how to comprehend what you read. You failed. It won't hit earth. Even if it broke up the fragments would continue along the original orbit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Simma down na!

I don't have any problem with you asserting that DA14 will not hit.

Hopefully it does not hit. Duh.

But, please, don't pretend that you have in any way debunked David Dunham's assertions. You have simply countered them with your own assertions.

Try again.
 Quoting: LunaHominem


It's basic physics. When an object in space breaks up, the fragments continue along the same orbit as the parent object. Your refusal to understand this basic concept does not in any change the fact that the assertion has been debunked.
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Then you do not understand science, nor will you ever admit that I was right and that I knew what was going to happen. Thus you will never learn from your mistakes.
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Do you have any fucking clue how much benefit I have served to the people here? I have freely provided countless hours of free viewing of the heavens, the only thing I have to show for that are several banned accounts on various video sharing sites that either thought I was broadcasting copyrighted material or to which I was reported as broadcasting inappropriate content and banned. I have freely provided countless analyses of the orbits of various objects in space, that has occupied my main computer for literally days at a time in some cases. I freely did all this and more, and while I did learn from the process of doing it and armed myself against the tards, it serves to benefit anyone who is willing to understand what I have presented and learn about it.
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If that is truly how you feel, then throw your computer out the damn window along with all your other gadgets. Fucking anti-science luddite hypocrite.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


cruiselarge

Oh lord... clap

yessir

fuckyou
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

wtfdog
dogshit
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


coolstory



Found an old pic of ya bro!



internetwarrior
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


Funny, I don't recall ever boasting of my "streetfighting" or lifting abilities. That's not exactly my forte.
:coolstorybro:

Keep trying, maybe eventually you'll hit something.
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In the meantime...
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You again.

So to translate: David Dunham's assertions have not been debunked.

Thanks!
 Quoting: LunaHominem


Learn how to comprehend what you read. You failed. It won't hit earth. Even if it broke up the fragments would continue along the original orbit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Simma down na!

I don't have any problem with you asserting that DA14 will not hit.

Hopefully it does not hit. Duh.

But, please, don't pretend that you have in any way debunked David Dunham's assertions. You have simply countered them with your own assertions.

Try again.
 Quoting: LunaHominem


It's basic physics. When an object in space breaks up, the fragments continue along the same orbit as the parent object. Your refusal to understand this basic concept does not in any change the fact that the assertion has been debunked.
[link to www2.jpl.nasa.gov]
[link to science.nasa.gov]
[link to www.astro.caltech.edu]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Of course it continues on its orbit. But that is not what Dunham is talking about.

Dunham is was talking about it breaking up upon entering orbit.

Dunham is asserting that its orbit is directed at earth.

All I am asking is if anyone has debunked his assertions made in Moscow last year?

As of yet, you have not debunked his assertions, you simply regurgitate NASA's estimations.
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Math is the language of science. It's not hiding behind it, it IS it. I have mathematically described the orbit of the asteroid. When on Friday that math is proven right I will be proven right as well.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You most likely will, within a certain realm of probability. But yet again you prove sciences arrogant stance of NEVER being wrong.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

Then you do not understand science, nor will you ever admit that I was right and that I knew what was going to happen. Thus you will never learn from your mistakes.
:clap:

Well, good for you! Hopefully one day - you can apply it in a manner that is not so self-serving.
 Quoting: CoA

Do you have any fucking clue how much benefit I have served to the people here? I have freely provided countless hours of free viewing of the heavens, the only thing I have to show for that are several banned accounts on various video sharing sites that either thought I was broadcasting copyrighted material or to which I was reported as broadcasting inappropriate content and banned. I have freely provided countless analyses of the orbits of various objects in space, that has occupied my main computer for literally days at a time in some cases. I freely did all this and more, and while I did learn from the process of doing it and armed myself against the tards, it serves to benefit anyone who is willing to understand what I have presented and learn about it.
It has been science leading the path on all things controlling. From psychology to astronomy,, it seems to me that Sciences mere function is to usurp that of both Church and State.
 Quoting: coa

If that is truly how you feel, then throw your computer out the damn window along with all your other gadgets. Fucking anti-science luddite hypocrite.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You sir, are a douche bag. Plug that into your calculator.
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Learn how to comprehend what you read. You failed. It won't hit earth. Even if it broke up the fragments would continue along the original orbit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Simma down na!

I don't have any problem with you asserting that DA14 will not hit.

Hopefully it does not hit. Duh.

But, please, don't pretend that you have in any way debunked David Dunham's assertions. You have simply countered them with your own assertions.

Try again.
 Quoting: LunaHominem


It's basic physics. When an object in space breaks up, the fragments continue along the same orbit as the parent object. Your refusal to understand this basic concept does not in any change the fact that the assertion has been debunked.
[link to www2.jpl.nasa.gov]
[link to science.nasa.gov]
[link to www.astro.caltech.edu]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Of course it continues on its orbit. But that is not what Dunham is talking about.

Dunham is was talking about it breaking up upon entering orbit.
 Quoting: LunaHominem

If it continues on its orbit, then it does not hit earth - its orbit does not intersect earth.
Dunham is asserting that its orbit is directed at earth.
 Quoting: luna

Well, it's not...

All I am asking is if anyone has debunked his assertions made in Moscow last year?

As of yet, you have not debunked his assertions, you simply regurgitate NASA's estimations.
 Quoting: lunar

See above. Debunked.
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Math is the language of science. It's not hiding behind it, it IS it. I have mathematically described the orbit of the asteroid. When on Friday that math is proven right I will be proven right as well.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You most likely will, within a certain realm of probability. But yet again you prove sciences arrogant stance of NEVER being wrong.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

Then you do not understand science, nor will you ever admit that I was right and that I knew what was going to happen. Thus you will never learn from your mistakes.
clap

Well, good for you! Hopefully one day - you can apply it in a manner that is not so self-serving.
 Quoting: CoA

Do you have any fucking clue how much benefit I have served to the people here? I have freely provided countless hours of free viewing of the heavens, the only thing I have to show for that are several banned accounts on various video sharing sites that either thought I was broadcasting copyrighted material or to which I was reported as broadcasting inappropriate content and banned. I have freely provided countless analyses of the orbits of various objects in space, that has occupied my main computer for literally days at a time in some cases. I freely did all this and more, and while I did learn from the process of doing it and armed myself against the tards, it serves to benefit anyone who is willing to understand what I have presented and learn about it.
It has been science leading the path on all things controlling. From psychology to astronomy,, it seems to me that Sciences mere function is to usurp that of both Church and State.
 Quoting: coa

If that is truly how you feel, then throw your computer out the damn window along with all your other gadgets. Fucking anti-science luddite hypocrite.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You sir, are a douche bag. Plug that into your calculator.
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Dance monkies, dance...

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Re: 2012 DA14 WILL hit earth.. Confirmed.
If it continues on its orbit, then it does not hit earth - its orbit does not intersect earth.
Dunham is asserting that its orbit is directed at earth.
 Quoting: luna

Well, it's not...

All I am asking is if anyone has debunked his assertions made in Moscow last year?

As of yet, you have not debunked his assertions, you simply regurgitate NASA's estimations.
 Quoting: lunar

See above. Debunked.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


LOL!

Yes, Dunham is asserting that DA14 will impact earth.

Just saying it will not is not debunking anything.

The Youtube video you link to is just some person failing to explain much of anything. He certainly did not deal with Dunham's assertions.
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You even attempt to use intellect in humor. You might be entertaining if you weren't such a condescending asshole. It's clear you try to use your intelligence to try to make up for where you lack in other areas. The more you try to defend against criticism, the less people will care about what you have to say. You clearly can't handle the possibility of being wrong at anything. Intelligence without humility. A douche. Plain. Simple.





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