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Mr Mike
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You state that your people were here first, acknowledging that even you are not true natives or this land either. and then you state that because you people were here first, like this was some kind of a race?, it gives your people the right to claim this land forever.

WTF, type of grass are you smoking now? If I am to believe what you are claiming then I am also to believe that this land was yours to protect, and as such try as your fore fathers might have, they lost it, so get over it!

And as for all of you India sympathizers, please I bet you sympathize for the Nazis and Communist too. if you don't like here or the way things are, you can leave our country anytime you want too, like now would be a good time.

Long live the USA!
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The Tribes of Europe



 Quoting: They'refixingtheroad


Oh shit we got Peter interested now, he can shed some light on the Hopi perspective of all this.

Whats up there Mr. Rock. Long time no speak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


Don't speak for the Hopi. Visited once but there was no one there to greet me. Was able to have the opportunity to be the messenger to the white house this year for the Lakota Treaty Council who still stand by the treaty of 1854... I think we need to honor the treaties. And it is a fact that we dis recieve our constitution from the Iroquois Nation.

The First American Nations were wiped out because of genocide by the new immigrants. I think it's something that we should take account of and also make the lands in the Fort Laramie Treaty of the Lakota the 51st state.

I also worked for a time in Hispanic Latino issues... cheap labor by big biz is what kept the doors open. We all enjoyed the fruit of their labor and now we look to throw them to the wolves. I say open all the borders up from here to the North and South Pole... We become one big United Nation -- Why Not? If you don't like it just move to a different state. Mexico has nice weather... better then Canada and many parts of the US. I think I would drive to peru if I could without all the hassels.
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great to hear such a fresh thought without all the hate this issue causes, top fella, thank you for sharing.
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Thank you, right back at ya! :)
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This is how we should treat one another.......
 Quoting: AdHocBOHICA


Yes this is what I have been screaming this whole time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


"screaming"?

Try singing. Next time they will listen.
 Quoting: SwanSong 10870676


Good point, semantic metaphors man, semantic metaphors.
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 Quoting: Philligan


Someone owes him an award, a little vulgar for the public area he was speaking in but he spoke what many of our hearts feel about this immigration bs. They're the immigrants not us yet they tell us to leave America, lie an say we're anti-american, and so on.
Feed the hungry, visit the sick, free a captive if he be unjustly confined(kidnapped/enslaved by someone). Assist any person oppressed, whether they're of the Muslim or non-Muslim. - Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam)
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You state that your people were here first, acknowledging that even you are not true natives or this land either. and then you state that because you people were here first, like this was some kind of a race?, it gives your people the right to claim this land forever.

WTF, type of grass are you smoking now? If I am to believe what you are claiming then I am also to believe that this land was yours to protect, and as such try as your fore fathers might have, they lost it, so get over it!

And as for all of you India sympathizers, please I bet you sympathize for the Nazis and Communist too. if you don't like here or the way things are, you can leave our country anytime you want too, like now would be a good time.

Long live the USA!
 Quoting: Mr Mike 33468353


Yes my people coming here does give them the right to claim it.

And we did defend it however like I said before you fuckers cheated.

And fuck a Nazi and a Communist I've had family die fighting both groups, so you can kiss my ass.

Long live the USA is right, however rise Equality, and fall selfish egotistical bigotry.
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Ok what do you think happens? Do you honestly think that hospitals just let women without ID or information just come in? No they don't, only under emergency circumstances and the family are billed same as anybody else. Why don't we hear about all the illegal immigrant births in hospitals? Because most immigrant neighborhoods have midwifes. Oh shit you forgot about those didn't you?
When an illegal immigrant walks into a hospital with no ID and no Soc. unless they are dying immigration is called and their asses get put on a bus back to Mexico. Now you are probably gonna say some shit about gas money, well think of this, all the under the table money, where does that go? It goes into the pockets of store owners, that's where. That is how shit really works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


You have absolutely no idea how things actually work.

None.

You're wrong about everything.

lolatu
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


And you know this how? Are you a Doctor? I doubt it.

Most immigrants would never step foot in a hospital because they are afraid of immigration.
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"Native Americans" are NOT native to the Americas. Fucking idiots need to do some reading. "Native Americans" originated from Mongoloids from Asia crossing the Bering Strait.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21412329


I know many from many differet tribes. Some immigrated here from south as well- mexico,all of south america, and none other then ATLANTIS! Some Elders will tell you they came from an island that sank beneath the seas in the Atlantic.Theons tatcmfrom Asia nd Pacific ilands cam from the land of Lemuria ad Mu which also sank beneath the seas. Again what history are you being taught? The one from school books or the one from the Real Native Ameican people.
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Remember peeps... NO ONE OWNS THE LAND.

The stroller was a good intimidation tool too!
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Ok what do you think happens? Do you honestly think that hospitals just let women without ID or information just come in? No they don't, only under emergency circumstances and the family are billed same as anybody else. Why don't we hear about all the illegal immigrant births in hospitals? Because most immigrant neighborhoods have midwifes. Oh shit you forgot about those didn't you?
When an illegal immigrant walks into a hospital with no ID and no Soc. unless they are dying immigration is called and their asses get put on a bus back to Mexico. Now you are probably gonna say some shit about gas money, well think of this, all the under the table money, where does that go? It goes into the pockets of store owners, that's where. That is how shit really works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


You have absolutely no idea how things actually work.

None.

You're wrong about everything.

lolatu
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


And you know this how? Are you a Doctor? I doubt it.

Most immigrants would never step foot in a hospital because they are afraid of immigration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


I worked security at a hospital for 8 years..

You are so wrong it's not even funny... When a woman shows up in labor.. she is given treatment.. In this case, she is delivered...

Without proper ID, all the hospital can do is take their word for it when they give name / address.. and they NEVER Pay...

The hospital is not allowed to send a woman in labor away. And the few times we called ICE (immmigration), they never show up.
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That's life in the big casino, now go have some fire water and dance around a bonfire or whatever it is you people do...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Lol ok, I've never been to a casino, I don't drink and I was only apart of one ritual dance and that was when I was 7. So... your sister pumping, little dick having, land stealing, bigotry wielding, wanna be gun toting, illiterate ass can kiss my fucking ass bitch boy.

PS I "curse" you with my "Injun" "Magic" to have all your future girlfriends and wives to leave you for black men that are so hung that you notice when they have cheated on you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


so you're a homo and Cherokee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21412329


Yes a Homo-Sapien who happens to be Cherokee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


homo as in fag. a fag obsessed with white men and black mens' dicks
Anonymous Coward
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Ok what do you think happens? Do you honestly think that hospitals just let women without ID or information just come in? No they don't, only under emergency circumstances and the family are billed same as anybody else. Why don't we hear about all the illegal immigrant births in hospitals? Because most immigrant neighborhoods have midwifes. Oh shit you forgot about those didn't you?
When an illegal immigrant walks into a hospital with no ID and no Soc. unless they are dying immigration is called and their asses get put on a bus back to Mexico. Now you are probably gonna say some shit about gas money, well think of this, all the under the table money, where does that go? It goes into the pockets of store owners, that's where. That is how shit really works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


You have absolutely no idea how things actually work.

None.

You're wrong about everything.

lolatu
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


And you know this how? Are you a Doctor? I doubt it.

Most immigrants would never step foot in a hospital because they are afraid of immigration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


I worked security at a hospital for 8 years..

You are so wrong it's not even funny... When a woman shows up in labor.. she is given treatment.. In this case, she is delivered...

Without proper ID, all the hospital can do is take their word for it when they give name / address.. and they NEVER Pay...

The hospital is not allowed to send a woman in labor away. And the few times we called ICE (immmigration), they never show up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Like I said Emergency situations only.

Most immigrants will not step foot in a hospital.

OK I'll admit I was wrong about billing, but even still is it any different than spending billions a year on foreign aid?

No it isn't its the same shit.
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Remember peeps... NO ONE OWNS THE LAND.
 Quoting: ShamansDream


Oh. OK. So the Injuns don't own the land. And wetbacks don't own the land. OK.
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You have absolutely no idea how things actually work.

None.

You're wrong about everything.

lolatu
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


And you know this how? Are you a Doctor? I doubt it.

Most immigrants would never step foot in a hospital because they are afraid of immigration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


I worked security at a hospital for 8 years..

You are so wrong it's not even funny... When a woman shows up in labor.. she is given treatment.. In this case, she is delivered...

Without proper ID, all the hospital can do is take their word for it when they give name / address.. and they NEVER Pay...

The hospital is not allowed to send a woman in labor away. And the few times we called ICE (immmigration), they never show up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Like I said Emergency situations only.

Most immigrants will not step foot in a hospital.

OK I'll admit I was wrong about billing, but even still is it any different than spending billions a year on foreign aid?

No it isn't its the same shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


Well not really.. spending money in their countries might keep them there.

But I agree, we shouldn't do either.. Closed borders and no foreign aid.

Qualified, skilled labor only.
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This "native american" doesn't seem to understand that he is the perfect example of what happens when you don't control immigration....
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laugh
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"Native Americans" are NOT native to the Americas. Fucking idiots need to do some reading. "Native Americans" originated from Mongoloids from Asia crossing the Bering Strait.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21412329


I know many from many differet tribes. Some immigrated here from south as well- mexico,all of south america, and none other then ATLANTIS! Some Elders will tell you they came from an island that sank beneath the seas in the Atlantic.Theons tatcmfrom Asia nd Pacific ilands cam from the land of Lemuria ad Mu which also sank beneath the seas. Again what history are you being taught? The one from school books or the one from the Real Native Ameican people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512435


True, there isn't a so called "native American". The people that are claiming to be came here from some place else also. Heck, it has been proved many times that the American Tribes were not even the first people here.

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

American Tribes do not want this info out as it would take away from their rights. And before you jump me, I too have my share of several Tribal blood in my genealogy also. I love their way of life, their culture, etc, but they were NOT the first so cannot claim to be Native American. In fact, every person BORN in America is NATIVE!
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Omg is everybody a freaking Cherokee.........im half raramuri HALF not 1/16 or 1/32 HALF
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no apache too so fuck off i am as real as any
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Theons tatcmfrom Asia nd Pacific ilands cam from the land of Lemuria ad Mu which also sank beneath the seas. Again what history are you being taught?

This is supposed to read: The ones that came from Asia and the Pacific Islands of Lemuria and Mu which also sank beneath the seas.

I type the letters but it seems they come out as the want, not what I type!
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LOL, silly Injuns...probably drunk
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Oh great the forum bigot put his two cents in.
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perhaps being ironic or sarcastic
Zaphod's just ziss guy, you know...
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This "native american" doesn't seem to understand that he is the perfect example of what happens when you don't control immigration....
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laugh
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damn straight
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Your statement from above:

Not as weak as lying about immigrants accepting benefits and taking jobs, just because one is racist against people that speak another language.

This is what YOU said above. I am asking what race is being abused? If you come into my house and eat MY Food and I catch you and demand you leave, that is not racist. It was MY Energy that allowed me to have that food to eat not yours. By your statement above, it is RACISM for me to object to your breaking into my home uninvited and taking what is not yours.
 Quoting: AdHocBOHICA


But they don't that is what makes it racist.
How can someone without a Social Security card get a Job or social benefits?
They can't so clearly the issue is not of people taking jobs or benefits but the people themselves.
That is racist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


You are woefully misinformed or ignorant. Who do you think pays for the little baby born from an illiegal alien? The hospital, doctors, nurses are not FREE. Use your brian, please.
 Quoting: AdHocBOHICA


Ok what do you think happens? Do you honestly think that hospitals just let women without ID or information just come in? No they don't, only under emergency circumstances and the family are billed same as anybody else. Why don't we hear about all the illegal immigrant births in hospitals? Because most immigrant neighborhoods have midwifes. Oh shit you forgot about those didn't you?
When an illegal immigrant walks into a hospital with no ID and no Soc. unless they are dying immigration is called and their asses get put on a bus back to Mexico. Now you are probably gonna say some shit about gas money, well think of this, all the under the table money, where does that go? It goes into the pockets of store owners, that's where. That is how shit really works.
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Your mentallity is simply impossible....have fun in your self-imposed BLISS.
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There is only one race...you peeps are lost.
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Remember peeps... NO ONE OWNS THE LAND.

The stroller was a good intimidation tool too!
 Quoting: ShamansDream


True, God owns the land and He gives it to who he so chooses.

That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies. Genesis 22:17

Deuteronomy 33:16-17

King James Version (KJV)

16 And for the precious things of the earth and fulness thereof, and for the good will of him that dwelt in the bush: let the blessing come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him that was separated from his brethren.

17 His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.


And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations)
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And you know this how? Are you a Doctor? I doubt it.

Most immigrants would never step foot in a hospital because they are afraid of immigration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


I worked security at a hospital for 8 years..

You are so wrong it's not even funny... When a woman shows up in labor.. she is given treatment.. In this case, she is delivered...

Without proper ID, all the hospital can do is take their word for it when they give name / address.. and they NEVER Pay...

The hospital is not allowed to send a woman in labor away. And the few times we called ICE (immmigration), they never show up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Like I said Emergency situations only.

Most immigrants will not step foot in a hospital.

OK I'll admit I was wrong about billing, but even still is it any different than spending billions a year on foreign aid?

No it isn't its the same shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


Well not really.. spending money in their countries might keep them there.

But I agree, we shouldn't do either.. Closed borders and no foreign aid.

Qualified, skilled labor only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


That is against everything this country was founded on.

This place was built by immigrants, we have always been the first to help and the first to fight, these two traits are what defines us as Americans. Think of how many people in southern Africa would die if not for the aid they receive, think of all the kids that would starve to death without it, think of all the people that are having their lives ruined by a problem that we caused in Mexico. Yes we caused the cartels, that is our shit, our fault, we are the ones that made marijuana illegal just to control Mexican immigrants and what did it do it spawned a fucking drug war, and an army that is fueled by marijuana sales in the US, not to mention the billions of dollars that is sent to Mexico that has no tax on it just in marijuana sales.

We need to nut the fuck up in this situation.
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Oh great the forum white guilt liberal puts his two cents in.
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Dipshit I'm Cherokee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


I am as well. I was born on the reservation in WNC. Whereas I don't hate the colonists from moving in on our grounds, I do hate the fact that most Americans think only of a dumb injun when it comes to real Amerindians. They do everything they can to keep us at the lowest point in todays social standings. It can't help but qu8estion "who really are the illegal immigrates?".
 Quoting: 071676


Honestly the word illegal immigrant is fucking retarded. Doesn't the statue of Liberty say, "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"?

I mean fuck I just wish people would shut the fuck up.
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Take your wish.. apply it to yourself.

You are intentionally obtuse, ignorant and an ass.

there is a legal way, that is what is described on the statue. And you know it. You just want to bring in the scum to destroy the country faster with their 3rd world behavior.

Fuckin jerk.
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You state that your people were here first, acknowledging that even you are not true natives or this land either. and then you state that because you people were here first, like this was some kind of a race?, it gives your people the right to claim this land forever.

WTF, type of grass are you smoking now? If I am to believe what you are claiming then I am also to believe that this land was yours to protect, and as such try as your fore fathers might have, they lost it, so get over it!

And as for all of you India sympathizers, please I bet you sympathize for the Nazis and Communist too. if you don't like here or the way things are, you can leave our country anytime you want too, like now would be a good time.

Long live the USA!
 Quoting: Mr Mike 33468353


Yes my people coming here does give them the right to claim it.

And we did defend it however like I said before you fuckers cheated.

And fuck a Nazi and a Communist I've had family die fighting both groups, so you can kiss my ass.

Long live the USA is right, however rise Equality, and fall selfish egotistical bigotry.
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Cheated, WTF are you going on about.....are you a 10 year old whose nuts haven't dropped yet. Your mentality is exactly the reason the Land was taken from you.
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You state that your people were here first, acknowledging that even you are not true natives or this land either. and then you state that because you people were here first, like this was some kind of a race?, it gives your people the right to claim this land forever.

WTF, type of grass are you smoking now? If I am to believe what you are claiming then I am also to believe that this land was yours to protect, and as such try as your fore fathers might have, they lost it, so get over it!

And as for all of you India sympathizers, please I bet you sympathize for the Nazis and Communist too. if you don't like here or the way things are, you can leave our country anytime you want too, like now would be a good time.

Long live the USA!
 Quoting: Mr Mike 33468353


Yes my people coming here does give them the right to claim it.

And we did defend it however like I said before you fuckers cheated.

And fuck a Nazi and a Communist I've had family die fighting both groups, so you can kiss my ass.

Long live the USA is right, however rise Equality, and fall selfish egotistical bigotry.
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Cheated, WTF are you going on about.....are you a 10 year old whose nuts haven't dropped yet. Your mentality is exactly the reason the Land was taken from you.
 Quoting: AdHocBOHICA


Cheated as in used small pox to kill children, wiping out most bison to starve the people, selling them liquor and opium to addict them.

That's dirty warfare, but Americans wouldn't know shit about that would we?
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I must admit I like debating with you, even if you are wrong my dear friend. The Idea that we cheated you somehow fails the dummy test too.

Your so called nation was not the first nor the last that succumbed to the use superior technology and war, the fact that the whites were willing to use it only proves they were technologically superior and wise enough to implement use of it.

And yes, I do agree with you, for equality of all Americans, whatever their historical background may be.

Believe it or not, I do respect Indians and the trials your people has endured but please do not think your people are the only ones to suffer injustice in this imperfect world.

The correct answer is for all us to learn from our past and to embrace one another in love and peace. it is the only hope mankind has left!
BRIEF
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LOL, silly Injuns...probably drunk
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Oh great the forum bigot put his two cents in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


perhaps being ironic or sarcastic
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Them Injuns really got their deer hide panties in a twist didn't they? grinning
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Oh great the forum bigot put his two cents in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


Oh great the forum white guilt liberal puts his two cents in.
 Quoting: Melton Mowbray


Dipshit I'm Cherokee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33605837


That's life in the big casino, now go have some fire water and dance around a bonfire or whatever it is you people do...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I'm Orvis Grand Cherokee

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