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Christian Bible EXPOSED!!!!

 
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Can someone please answer this question??

If God is omnipotent then why did he send his son to be tortured and killed to forgive mankind of there sins instead of just forgiving the sin?
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Because God has LAWS and in his kingdom there are certain way you do things. And he followed his OWN laws to the letter.
Someone had to pay for it and Jesus did.
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All of humanity is paying for it because they're blindly believing these fairy tale stories as the Elite continue to screw us over!
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I love the wrong translation argument, as if they actually differ that greatly.
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Ex pastor's wife here...

I am not a Religiontard - I have seen the dark, dark side of the Independent Fundamental institution - it is not pretty - I lived and breathed it for 35 years as a leader in the church.

However, your interpretation of Scripture is out of context and incorrect.

I understand your efforts in wanting to disprove the Bible, however, maybe you should try to develop a more rounded argument so that people will take you more seriously.

I am not a supporter of plastic Christians singing shallow praise music in their ornate buildings of superficial, social benevolence, however if you want Christians to be challenged in their programmed Biblical mindset, you have to come up with a better argument.

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Christians read their bible? I know, sounds revolutionary. There is no better argument against Christianity than reading the bible itself. If you can read the entirety of the old testament and still fool yourself into believing these are the acts of a loving, merciful, forgiving god; then you are blinded so hard by cognitive dissonance that there's hardly any hope for you.
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OP really thinks he's on to something.

he's not.


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Actually he is onto something, but the christian defense is hes using the wrong bible lol.
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I still don't think you have answered my question. In the bible is says we are all sinners but if we repent all of our sins are forgiven. Seems kind of pointless for god to send Jesus to earth to die for our sins when he could have just said repent and i will forgive you.
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i answered your question already
why are you people runing in circles?
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OP really thinks he's on to something.

he's not.


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Oooh very intelligent statement...
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lol..

ok, how about this (you won't receive it, so i will in advance consider this a waste of my time) -



Every single point that OP provided was taken completely out of context, cultural understanding, and word usage of the Hebrew and Greek. every single point. I could break down each one and offer the context, meaning, cultural comprehension, etc, but that would take a lot of time and you don't want to hear it anyway.

The other thing OP is neglecting to realize is that his thread implies that over centuries upon centuries, scholars and students of these ancient writings are all complete idiots who lack any ability to discern, dissect, comprehend or realize this large collection of historically sound, archaeologically sound, detailed prophetic works. OP thinks he's on to something that nobody, in the thousands of years that humanity has spent working and understanding these books, that nobody else has discovered.

that's a bold statement. and it's arrogant. and it reveals the ignorance of the subject matter in it's gross abundance.

The only thing OP has provided here is his complete ignorance to the subject matter, the fact that he has spent zero time studying it, and hates God.
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What you may not realize about the scripture is throughout the early generations they took it very seriously... they would take much care in making sure every word and punctuation was in the exact spot when copying it or it would be thrown away... to give you an example before they wrote the word "God" they would have to take a bath to make themselves clean enough to write that word.
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The early church was mostly based on oral tradition. We have no indications of early texts used.
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We do... its not word of mouth... ask any Jewish person... look at the dead sea scrolls
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I think Jesus made it very clear, you can't follow Moses and Jesus. What did he say, the law came through Moses, the truth came through Jesus, now if Jesus is the truth what would that make Torah?
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Praise to the great I Am who is the beginning and the end, the Alpha and the Omego.

He is just.

May I be worthy to stand in front of him on the day of Judgment.
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Just because you don't believe in gravity doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

How is life treating you so far? You might say, "So far so good."

But let me say this just because you are free falling, gravity isn't a respecter of persons. Violate the laws of God's word, just because you haven't hit bottom yet doesn't mean you won't. Mercy will only last so long, that even though the love and patience of God has no depth there comes a point when we run out of the length of God and let there comes a point when gravity will catch us and we will hit rock bottom.

We want a pharmacist or a police man and law and absolutes of this world to keep us safe but we don't want them with God, only Jesus as our reference of navigation will lead to happiness. Jesus embodies everything that is truth. He is either a liar, a lunatic or He is telling the truth.

He is our compass. Gods word is what should govern our choices.

Jesus Christ. Not the worlds systems. The word of God is the same as looking to Jesus.

Navigate not by what is acceptable to society we navigate by Jesus and the word of God.
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To Theyfixingtheroad....in your very short reply to me you show very deep anger and it seems it is not God but your parents who you believe "did" this to you.

Again, very simply, it is God who calls us into belief and He will grace you with it should you so desire.
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OP really thinks he's on to something.

he's not.


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Actually he is onto something, but the christian defense is hes using the wrong bible lol.
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You probably haven't read a thing I said
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I love the wrong translation argument, as if they actually differ that greatly.
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Might do YOU some good to actually read any translation... the time will soon come when you wish you did...
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define "put to death"

Its the Bible, ...Look Closer!

the Dead are those living in Sin.

"An Adulterer" is also someone who participates in other Gods or spiritual ways.

So perhaps An Adulterer is put to death to live in his Sin and to learn from it.. allowing to make him stronger spiritually.
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I love the wrong translation argument, as if they actually differ that greatly.
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Might do YOU some good to actually read any translation... the time will soon come when you wish you did...
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Sorry I don't live in fear like you. I am saved and don't worry about the Torah.
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• 1/3 believe that moral truth is absolute.

• 1/3 believe morality and truth is always determined by the situation.

• 1/3 don’t even know if moral truth exists.

Individualism & Relativism

Individualism: Only I can judge what's true, what's right, and what's wrong. If it feels good, it can’t be wrong.

Relativism: There are no absolutes. Whatever works for you is right.

Flaws with individualism:

We all have met people we want to punch in the face. We all have moments when what feels good to do but isn't the right thing.

Flaws with relativism:

If it works for you, don't judge me I won't judge you. That's great.

When you make up your own rules it affects everyone else.

When someone says there are no absolutes, That is a contradiction.

Our universe functions on absolutes.

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit along with the Word of God is the only absolute truth that exists.

God spoke everything into being. God made us to love Him. When we stray from this everything falls apart.
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Actually he is onto something, but the christian defense is hes using the wrong bible lol.
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Even the Jews admit the Torah is out of date, when was the last time they killed anybody and spare me the part that nobody has broken the 615 OT morality/dietary laws in the last 2,000 years.
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Actually he is onto something, but the christian defense is hes using the wrong bible lol.
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Even the Jews admit the Torah is out of date, when was the last time they killed anybody and spare me the part that nobody has broken the 615 OT morality/dietary laws in the last 2,000 years.
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Malachi 3:6
King James Version (KJV)
6 For I am the Lord, I change not
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Actually he is onto something, but the christian defense is hes using the wrong bible lol.
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Even the Jews admit the Torah is out of date, when was the last time they killed anybody and spare me the part that nobody has broken the 615 OT morality/dietary laws in the last 2,000 years.
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And even Jesus called Torah, your law, and referred to Moses and not god as the author. Two cookies to whoever can find the verses in the Synoptics.
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Yahweh, the God of Christianity is evil.

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Burned to Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Stoning rape victims

If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city. Deuteronomy 22:23-24


Genocide and Infant Massacre

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Samuel also said unto Saul, The LORD sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the LORD.
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Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
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Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
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And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
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And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.
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And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye showed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.
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And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.
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And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.
(1 Samuel , Chapter 15)



In one Verse in the BIble it will say one thing and then in another verse it will say something totally different about the same thing, lets look at a few I have posted here:


Did Abraham have 1 or 2 sons?

Abraham Had Two Sons

Galatians 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

Abraham had but one son

Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

When Was Jesus Crucified? Was it the Third hour or the sixth hour?

Christ was crucified at the third hour

Mark 15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.

Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour

John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

John 19:15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

God is more than one entity.

Genesis 1:26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.'

God is one entity.

Genesis 1:27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

Man was created after the other animals.

Genesis 1:25,26,27 24 And God said: 'Let the earth bring forth the living creature after its kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after its kind.' And it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after its kind, and the cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.' 27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

Man was created before the animals.

Genesis 2:18,19

And the LORD God said: 'It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him.' 19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto the man to see what he would call them; and whatsoever the man would call every living creature, that was to be the name thereof.

Seed time and harvest were never to cease

Genesis: 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.'

Seed time and harvest did cease for seven years

Genesis: 41:54, 56/Genesis 45:6 54 And the seven years of famine began to come, according as Joseph had said; and there was famine in all lands; but in all the land of Egypt there was bread.

56 And the famine was over all the face of the earth; and Joseph opened all the storehouses, and sold unto the Egyptians; and the famine was sore in the land of Egypt.

6 For these two years hath the famine been in the land; and there are yet five years, in which there shall be neither plowing nor harvest.

God hardened Pharaoh's heart

Exodus: 4:21 21 And the LORD said unto Moses: 'When thou goest back into Egypt, see that thou do before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in thy hand; but I will harden his heart, and he will not let the people go.

Pharaoh hardened his own heart

15 Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh: 'This is the finger of God'; and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken.

All the cattle and horses in Egypt died

Exodus 9:3 3 behold, the hand of the LORD is upon thy cattle which are in the field, upon the horses, upon the asses, upon the camels, upon the herds, and upon the flocks; there shall be a very grievous murrain.

All the horses of Egypt did not die

Exodus: 14:9 9 And the Egyptians pursued after them, all the horses and chariots of Pharaoh, and his horsemen, and his army, and overtook them encamping by the sea, beside Pi-hahiroth, in front of Baal-zephon.

Moses feared Pharaoh

Exodus 2:14 14 And he said: 'Who made thee a ruler and a judge over us? thinkest thou to kill me, as thou didst kill the Egyptian?' And Moses feared, and said: 'Surely the thing is known.'

Moses did not fear Pharaoh

Hebrews 11:27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

John the Baptist was Elias

Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

Matthew 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

John the Baptist was not Elias

John 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob

Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

The father of Mary's husband was Heli

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
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"we have no indication of early texts used"?

Hello? he bible was written by many different people of varying education, in three different languages and over 1500 years and adopted into one book consisting of 66. We have more and closer documentation in the gospels, particularly, than we have relating to what Cicero, Plato and others we accept without question as authentic.

Even the Smithsonian when confronted with lack of evidence historically in logging our path from early antiquities uses the bible as a final reference for validation.

You who knoock the bib le, at least do some research so you can make statements with something akin to real information refuting it not what you have heard from others who remain ignorant of what it is.
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Ex pastor's wife here...

I am not a Religiontard - I have seen the dark, dark side of the Independent Fundamental institution - it is not pretty - I lived and breathed it for 35 years as a leader in the church.

However, your interpretation of Scripture is out of context and incorrect.

I understand your efforts in wanting to disprove the Bible, however, maybe you should try to develop a more rounded argument so that people will take you more seriously.

I am not a supporter of plastic Christians singing shallow praise music in their ornate buildings of superficial, social benevolence, however if you want Christians to be challenged in their programmed Biblical mindset, you have to come up with a better argument.

cool2
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Christians read their bible? I know, sounds revolutionary. There is no better argument against Christianity than reading the bible itself. If you can read the entirety of the old testament and still fool yourself into believing these are the acts of a loving, merciful, forgiving god; then you are blinded so hard by cognitive dissonance that there's hardly any hope for you.
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Sounds like you haven't finished reading the Bible yet... people who have are trying to tell you that Jesus died in our place... I know YOU in particular don't care what I say... but I will say it for the sake of others
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Ex pastor's wife here...

I am not a Religiontard - I have seen the dark, dark side of the Independent Fundamental institution - it is not pretty - I lived and breathed it for 35 years as a leader in the church.

However, your interpretation of Scripture is out of context and incorrect.

I understand your efforts in wanting to disprove the Bible, however, maybe you should try to develop a more rounded argument so that people will take you more seriously.

I am not a supporter of plastic Christians singing shallow praise music in their ornate buildings of superficial, social benevolence, however if you want Christians to be challenged in their programmed Biblical mindset, you have to come up with a better argument.

cool2
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Christians read their bible? I know, sounds revolutionary. There is no better argument against Christianity than reading the bible itself. If you can read the entirety of the old testament and still fool yourself into believing these are the acts of a loving, merciful, forgiving god; then you are blinded so hard by cognitive dissonance that there's hardly any hope for you.
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Sounds like you haven't finished reading the Bible yet... people who have are trying to tell you that Jesus died in our place... I know YOU in particular don't care what I say... but I will say it for the sake of others
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And I'm trying to tell you that NO ONE had to die at all. If god is god, he could simply choose to forgive and be done with it. Yet he implemented a system of flesh sacrifices to appease his anger. Why?
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bunch of uneducated fools you are ,for they made you that.
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Ex pastor's wife here...

I am not a Religiontard - I have seen the dark, dark side of the Independent Fundamental institution - it is not pretty - I lived and breathed it for 35 years as a leader in the church.

However, your interpretation of Scripture is out of context and incorrect.

I understand your efforts in wanting to disprove the Bible, however, maybe you should try to develop a more rounded argument so that people will take you more seriously.

I am not a supporter of plastic Christians singing shallow praise music in their ornate buildings of superficial, social benevolence, however if you want Christians to be challenged in their programmed Biblical mindset, you have to come up with a better argument.

cool2
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Christians read their bible? I know, sounds revolutionary. There is no better argument against Christianity than reading the bible itself. If you can read the entirety of the old testament and still fool yourself into believing these are the acts of a loving, merciful, forgiving god; then you are blinded so hard by cognitive dissonance that there's hardly any hope for you.
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Sounds like you haven't finished reading the Bible yet... people who have are trying to tell you that Jesus died in our place... I know YOU in particular don't care what I say... but I will say it for the sake of others
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Sorry I miss quoted you
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Can someone please tell which are the correct versions of the bible?? lmao
"You can go to hell -- I'm going to Texas!" - Davy Crockett

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He has set His love on us and desires to enjoy intimacy with us.

John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

The reason we are saved is to know Him and The Father intimately.

When we focus on our performance, Christian service becomes perfunctory and lifeless. When we are obsessed with Him, our service is literally energized with divine life.

It really strokes our human ego to think we can do something for God.
Yet the truth is that we cannot. Only God can do something for himself. In His infinite grace, He allows us to participate in what He is doing by placing His life inside us and then expressing His life through us. If we aren't operating in that mode, then all we do adds up to zero.

Jesus came to reveal His Father to the world, but He didn't accomplish that goal by His own strength and ability.

John 14:8-10 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.

Abiding in Christ simply means living each moment totally depending on His life within us to cause us to be all that He has called us to be and to do all that He purposes for us to do.

John 15:4-5

We are not to take the matter of abiding as complicated, it simply means we choose to let Him do the living through us at every moment of our life.

Many people struggle with the question, "Why am I not fulfilled when I am doing all the things that I believe God wants me to do?"

It's because Gods purpose is not that we should focus on doing the right things, rather He wants us to focus on Him.

Obedience occurs as we trust Jesus within us to fulfill the desires of His Father through us.

As Jesus does that, we fulfilled the commands of scriptures. On the other hand, when we simply do what the bible instructs, that is not Godly obedience. It is nothing more than compliance.

Sometimes we can comply with Bible commands just like an unsaved person can choose at any particular moment to make a right choice instead of a wrong one.

For instance the bible says not to steal. Even an unbeliever can live up to that standard. However, just making the right choice is not obedience. That kind of choice is nothing more than empty, lifeless compliance. It requires no divine life whatsoever.

Why Does Jesus Live inside Us

1. Jesus comes into us so our sins can be forgiven.

2. He comes into us so we can go to heaven.

3. Jesus comes into us so that we will know how to live.

Christian living is not me serving Jesus. It is not me living for Him. It is not me doing the things that God instructs me to do. The Christian life is Him. The grace walk is nothing less than Christ-life. It is New Testament Christianity. It is Christ being Christ in us and through us every moment.
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Re: Christian Bible EXPOSED!!!!
Ex pastor's wife here...

I am not a Religiontard - I have seen the dark, dark side of the Independent Fundamental institution - it is not pretty - I lived and breathed it for 35 years as a leader in the church.

However, your interpretation of Scripture is out of context and incorrect.

I understand your efforts in wanting to disprove the Bible, however, maybe you should try to develop a more rounded argument so that people will take you more seriously.

I am not a supporter of plastic Christians singing shallow praise music in their ornate buildings of superficial, social benevolence, however if you want Christians to be challenged in their programmed Biblical mindset, you have to come up with a better argument.

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 Quoting: Watching the world


Christians read their bible? I know, sounds revolutionary. There is no better argument against Christianity than reading the bible itself. If you can read the entirety of the old testament and still fool yourself into believing these are the acts of a loving, merciful, forgiving god; then you are blinded so hard by cognitive dissonance that there's hardly any hope for you.
 Quoting: Capt. Ivan Danko


Sounds like you haven't finished reading the Bible yet... people who have are trying to tell you that Jesus died in our place... I know YOU in particular don't care what I say... but I will say it for the sake of others
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1581136


And I'm trying to tell you that NO ONE had to die at all. If god is god, he could simply choose to forgive and be done with it. Yet he implemented a system of flesh sacrifices to appease his anger. Why?
 Quoting: Capt. Ivan Danko


I wish it was that simple... God can forgive and has... but without a living sacrifice to show His way and His love no one would understand and they would continue to stone each other