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Christian Bible EXPOSED!!!!

 
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Nice thread OP.

The bible was written by men.

Man = Greed, power, control, sex

Use your noggin peeps. Blind faith is just that.

Jesus (a rose by any other name ) was the Creator's greatest gift....to women.

Old testament god, not so much.

MHO as of now.

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Yahweh, the God of Christianity is evil.

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Burned to Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Stoning rape victims

If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city. Deuteronomy 22:23-24


Genocide and Infant Massacre

1
Samuel also said unto Saul, The LORD sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the LORD.
2
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
4
And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
5
And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.
6
And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye showed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.
7
And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.
8
And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.
(1 Samuel , Chapter 15)



In one Verse in the BIble it will say one thing and then in another verse it will say something totally different about the same thing, lets look at a few I have posted here:


Did Abraham have 1 or 2 sons?

Abraham Had Two Sons

Galatians 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

Abraham had but one son

Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

When Was Jesus Crucified? Was it the Third hour or the sixth hour?

Christ was crucified at the third hour

Mark 15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.

Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour

John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

John 19:15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

God is more than one entity.

Genesis 1:26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.'

God is one entity.

Genesis 1:27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

Man was created after the other animals.

Genesis 1:25,26,27 24 And God said: 'Let the earth bring forth the living creature after its kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after its kind.' And it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after its kind, and the cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.' 27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

Man was created before the animals.

Genesis 2:18,19

And the LORD God said: 'It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him.' 19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto the man to see what he would call them; and whatsoever the man would call every living creature, that was to be the name thereof.

Seed time and harvest were never to cease

Genesis: 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.'

Seed time and harvest did cease for seven years

Genesis: 41:54, 56/Genesis 45:6 54 And the seven years of famine began to come, according as Joseph had said; and there was famine in all lands; but in all the land of Egypt there was bread.

56 And the famine was over all the face of the earth; and Joseph opened all the storehouses, and sold unto the Egyptians; and the famine was sore in the land of Egypt.

6 For these two years hath the famine been in the land; and there are yet five years, in which there shall be neither plowing nor harvest.

God hardened Pharaoh's heart

Exodus: 4:21 21 And the LORD said unto Moses: 'When thou goest back into Egypt, see that thou do before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in thy hand; but I will harden his heart, and he will not let the people go.

Pharaoh hardened his own heart

15 Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh: 'This is the finger of God'; and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken.

All the cattle and horses in Egypt died

Exodus 9:3 3 behold, the hand of the LORD is upon thy cattle which are in the field, upon the horses, upon the asses, upon the camels, upon the herds, and upon the flocks; there shall be a very grievous murrain.

All the horses of Egypt did not die

Exodus: 14:9 9 And the Egyptians pursued after them, all the horses and chariots of Pharaoh, and his horsemen, and his army, and overtook them encamping by the sea, beside Pi-hahiroth, in front of Baal-zephon.

Moses feared Pharaoh

Exodus 2:14 14 And he said: 'Who made thee a ruler and a judge over us? thinkest thou to kill me, as thou didst kill the Egyptian?' And Moses feared, and said: 'Surely the thing is known.'

Moses did not fear Pharaoh

Hebrews 11:27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

John the Baptist was Elias

Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

Matthew 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

John the Baptist was not Elias

John 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob

Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

The father of Mary's husband was Heli

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
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U need to Ask God..k.
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say out loud.. talk out loud.. ASK GOD..

ASK YOUR QUESTIONS TO GOD.. WHY..WHEN..WHERE..HOW..K
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READ THE POST ABOVE YOU....
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I read it... whats your point?

I said i would clean their shoes if they wanted to come in or i would just clean up the rug since im god and can do anything...

Thats alot different than getting 2 choices and having a being judge you based upon thoughts....
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



GOD IS NOT A MAGIC ACT

HE IS A GOD OF WISDOM

HE IS A GOD THAT IS ALL KNOWING
HE IS A GOD THAT SEES THE BEGINNING TO THE END
HE IS A GOD OUTSIDE OF SPACE AND TIME
HE IS A GOD THAT IS MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE
HE IS A GOD OF LAWS IN THE UNIVERSE AND ON EARTH
HE IS A GOD OF JUSTICE
HE IS A GOD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
HE IS A GOD OF WRATH
HE IS A GOD OF MERCY
HE IS A GOD OF FORGIVENESS
HE IS A GOD OF LOVE

DO YOU KNOW THIS GOD?

 Quoting: christian


So he is all knowing? So before he created me he knew i wouldnt believe his word therefore he destined my soul to hell by creating me.

Do you really think god sees things in the same dualistic fashion we do?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


We live in a 3 Dimensional Physical World...

GOD created Free Will which means he gives every soul an opportunity to know him...Maybe what he knows about *YOU* is that you will have to face Tribulations of the Worst Kind before you finally believe.....

It's not that you can't, it is that you won't....

If you wanted to really know GOD..You would get off this computer, turn all the noise off in your house get on your knees with a heartfelt passion for GOD to reveal himself to you..

You would tell GOD..I don't know how to believe in you.
I don't understand you..

But if you are willing, My heart and mind is truly opened to meeting and knowing you...


If you truly meant that..GOD would come to you, that I can guarantee..

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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GOD IS A SPIRIT

WE ARE FLESH, SOUL AND SPIRIT

A BODY THAT HAS NO BRAIN ACTIVITY IS DEAD

A BODY THAT HOUSES THE HOLY SPIRIT KNOWS GOD AND PROCLAIMS HIS WORD..THE HOLY SCRIPTURES...

 Quoting: christian


How do you know its his word? How do you know 100% that the bible hasnt been manipulated? It is pretty moronic to base your life around a belief system that has been used for control for thousands of years just because you are afraid of burning in hell for eternity...
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



You really don't know GOD nor the Bible..your posts reflect that..You will never hear nor see until your heart hears..


How do you know you *Love* someone?
Can you prove you LOVE someone?

If so how?


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Why do you never answer my questions you just throw out some idiotic rebuttle with nothing of importance...

You know you love someone when you would do anything for them.

If your god asked you to cut your arm off would you?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Because any legitimate answer to you is pointless


Matthew 7

6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
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Which commandments? All 10? There are differing beliefs on this as well within Christianity. Thank you for proving my point about interpretation. Again I'll ask, why leave something as important as your soul's eternal destination up to interpretation of a really old book?
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What point would it be for me to waste my time and effort showing you scripture when you are just going to discount what I say...

There is plenty of evidence to back up the Bible if you chose to look... there are also countless near death experiences... but I think you should just continue to throw your mouth around like you have researched it all
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Translation: I can't provide anything that won't be blown away by logic and reason... so I give up.
 Quoting: Capt. Ivan Danko


I haven't seen your evidence to prove else wise genius... got anything besides your say so? I have Jesus Christ and His word
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You have a book given to you by people who say it is "His word". And you swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
Winner takes my car, clean and clear... but if I lose, I take the cash AND I take the respect!
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ok good, i thought the thread said "christian bale" exposed....im like hes the only non elitist actor out there lol
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Yahweh, the God of Christianity is evil.

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Burned to Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Stoning rape victims

If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city. Deuteronomy 22:23-24


Genocide and Infant Massacre

1
Samuel also said unto Saul, The LORD sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the LORD.
2
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
4
And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
5
And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.
6
And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye showed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.
7
And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.
8
And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.
(1 Samuel , Chapter 15)



In one Verse in the BIble it will say one thing and then in another verse it will say something totally different about the same thing, lets look at a few I have posted here:


Did Abraham have 1 or 2 sons?

Abraham Had Two Sons

Galatians 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

Abraham had but one son

Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

When Was Jesus Crucified? Was it the Third hour or the sixth hour?

Christ was crucified at the third hour

Mark 15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.

Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour

John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

John 19:15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

God is more than one entity.

Genesis 1:26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.'

God is one entity.

Genesis 1:27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

Man was created after the other animals.

Genesis 1:25,26,27 24 And God said: 'Let the earth bring forth the living creature after its kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after its kind.' And it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after its kind, and the cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.' 27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

Man was created before the animals.

Genesis 2:18,19

And the LORD God said: 'It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him.' 19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto the man to see what he would call them; and whatsoever the man would call every living creature, that was to be the name thereof.

Seed time and harvest were never to cease

Genesis: 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.'

Seed time and harvest did cease for seven years

Genesis: 41:54, 56/Genesis 45:6 54 And the seven years of famine began to come, according as Joseph had said; and there was famine in all lands; but in all the land of Egypt there was bread.

56 And the famine was over all the face of the earth; and Joseph opened all the storehouses, and sold unto the Egyptians; and the famine was sore in the land of Egypt.

6 For these two years hath the famine been in the land; and there are yet five years, in which there shall be neither plowing nor harvest.

God hardened Pharaoh's heart

Exodus: 4:21 21 And the LORD said unto Moses: 'When thou goest back into Egypt, see that thou do before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in thy hand; but I will harden his heart, and he will not let the people go.

Pharaoh hardened his own heart

15 Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh: 'This is the finger of God'; and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken.

All the cattle and horses in Egypt died

Exodus 9:3 3 behold, the hand of the LORD is upon thy cattle which are in the field, upon the horses, upon the asses, upon the camels, upon the herds, and upon the flocks; there shall be a very grievous murrain.

All the horses of Egypt did not die

Exodus: 14:9 9 And the Egyptians pursued after them, all the horses and chariots of Pharaoh, and his horsemen, and his army, and overtook them encamping by the sea, beside Pi-hahiroth, in front of Baal-zephon.

Moses feared Pharaoh

Exodus 2:14 14 And he said: 'Who made thee a ruler and a judge over us? thinkest thou to kill me, as thou didst kill the Egyptian?' And Moses feared, and said: 'Surely the thing is known.'

Moses did not fear Pharaoh

Hebrews 11:27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

John the Baptist was Elias

Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

Matthew 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

John the Baptist was not Elias

John 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob

Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

The father of Mary's husband was Heli

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
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I read it... whats your point?

I said i would clean their shoes if they wanted to come in or i would just clean up the rug since im god and can do anything...

Thats alot different than getting 2 choices and having a being judge you based upon thoughts....
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



GOD IS NOT A MAGIC ACT

HE IS A GOD OF WISDOM

HE IS A GOD THAT IS ALL KNOWING
HE IS A GOD THAT SEES THE BEGINNING TO THE END
HE IS A GOD OUTSIDE OF SPACE AND TIME
HE IS A GOD THAT IS MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE
HE IS A GOD OF LAWS IN THE UNIVERSE AND ON EARTH
HE IS A GOD OF JUSTICE
HE IS A GOD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
HE IS A GOD OF WRATH
HE IS A GOD OF MERCY
HE IS A GOD OF FORGIVENESS
HE IS A GOD OF LOVE

DO YOU KNOW THIS GOD?

 Quoting: christian


So he is all knowing? So before he created me he knew i wouldnt believe his word therefore he destined my soul to hell by creating me.

Do you really think god sees things in the same dualistic fashion we do?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


We live in a 3 Dimensional Physical World...

GOD created Free Will which means he gives every soul an opportunity to know him...Maybe what he knows about *YOU* is that you will have to face Tribulations of the Worst Kind before you finally believe.....

It's not that you can't, it is that you won't....

If you wanted to really know GOD..You would get off this computer, turn all the noise off in your house get on your knees with a heartfelt passion for GOD to reveal himself to you..

You would tell GOD..I don't know how to believe in you.
I don't understand you..

But if you are willing, My heart and mind is truly opened to meeting and knowing you...


If you truly meant that..GOD would come to you, that I can guarantee..

 Quoting: christian


I do know god. I pray to him and give thanks every day. Just not your god aka saturn.
In Lak`ech.
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GOD IS A SPIRIT

WE ARE FLESH, SOUL AND SPIRIT

A BODY THAT HAS NO BRAIN ACTIVITY IS DEAD

A BODY THAT HOUSES THE HOLY SPIRIT KNOWS GOD AND PROCLAIMS HIS WORD..THE HOLY SCRIPTURES...

 Quoting: christian


How do you know its his word? How do you know 100% that the bible hasnt been manipulated? It is pretty moronic to base your life around a belief system that has been used for control for thousands of years just because you are afraid of burning in hell for eternity...
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



You really don't know GOD nor the Bible..your posts reflect that..You will never hear nor see until your heart hears..


How do you know you *Love* someone?
Can you prove you LOVE someone?

If so how?


 Quoting: christian


Why do you never answer my questions you just throw out some idiotic rebuttle with nothing of importance...

You know you love someone when you would do anything for them. JESUS CHRIST DID..

If your god asked you to cut your arm off would you?
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Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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GOD IS NOT A MAGIC ACT

HE IS A GOD OF WISDOM

HE IS A GOD THAT IS ALL KNOWING
HE IS A GOD THAT SEES THE BEGINNING TO THE END
HE IS A GOD OUTSIDE OF SPACE AND TIME
HE IS A GOD THAT IS MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE
HE IS A GOD OF LAWS IN THE UNIVERSE AND ON EARTH
HE IS A GOD OF JUSTICE
HE IS A GOD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
HE IS A GOD OF WRATH
HE IS A GOD OF MERCY
HE IS A GOD OF FORGIVENESS
HE IS A GOD OF LOVE

DO YOU KNOW THIS GOD?

 Quoting: christian


So he is all knowing? So before he created me he knew i wouldnt believe his word therefore he destined my soul to hell by creating me.

Do you really think god sees things in the same dualistic fashion we do?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


We live in a 3 Dimensional Physical World...

GOD created Free Will which means he gives every soul an opportunity to know him...Maybe what he knows about *YOU* is that you will have to face Tribulations of the Worst Kind before you finally believe.....

It's not that you can't, it is that you won't....

If you wanted to really know GOD..You would get off this computer, turn all the noise off in your house get on your knees with a heartfelt passion for GOD to reveal himself to you..

You would tell GOD..I don't know how to believe in you.
I don't understand you..

But if you are willing, My heart and mind is truly opened to meeting and knowing you...


If you truly meant that..GOD would come to you, that I can guarantee..

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I do know god. I pray to him and give thanks every day. Just not your god aka saturn.
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What GOD do you pray to?
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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Why would I fear a God who showed me that he loves me so much he would give his life for me?

It is those that hate God and love evil works that should fear God
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You just said that the reason for your belief is because you dont want to gamble your life away...

I hate your god but i love christ and i love god. Your god is an evil psychopath the true god is pure love.
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So you love Christ but you hate his word and you don't believe what is says??
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I love christ and i hate what his word has been manipulated into.
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Then you really need to take some time and research his word... I know for a fact that He loves you... and I wouldn't waste my day talking to you if I didn't believe that
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What point would it be for me to waste my time and effort showing you scripture when you are just going to discount what I say...

There is plenty of evidence to back up the Bible if you chose to look... there are also countless near death experiences... but I think you should just continue to throw your mouth around like you have researched it all
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Translation: I can't provide anything that won't be blown away by logic and reason... so I give up.
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I haven't seen your evidence to prove else wise genius... got anything besides your say so? I have Jesus Christ and His word
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You have a book given to you by people who say it is "His word". And you swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
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Again... what do you have??
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God continues to love you, even tho you curse His name and blaspheme Him.

But, there will be a point of no return if you continue along this path.

Please ask Him for forgiveness and turn it around before it's too late. He adores you.

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Your god deserves more than blasphemy...he shoud get the death penalty!
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Translation: I can't provide anything that won't be blown away by logic and reason... so I give up.
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I haven't seen your evidence to prove else wise genius... got anything besides your say so? I have Jesus Christ and His word
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You have a book given to you by people who say it is "His word". And you swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
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Again... what do you have??
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Logic and reason. Real god given gifts. Not a man made book. It's a cop out when christians say "who can know the mind of god?" As if it's absurd to think that god should make sense. It is so easy to punch holes in the patchwork of bullshit that is "the bible" using simple logic and reason.
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Yahweh, the God of Christianity is evil.

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Burned to Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Stoning rape victims

If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city. Deuteronomy 22:23-24


Genocide and Infant Massacre

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Samuel also said unto Saul, The LORD sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the LORD.
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Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
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Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
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And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
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And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.
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And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye showed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.
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And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.
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And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.
(1 Samuel , Chapter 15)



In one Verse in the BIble it will say one thing and then in another verse it will say something totally different about the same thing, lets look at a few I have posted here:


Did Abraham have 1 or 2 sons?

Abraham Had Two Sons

Galatians 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

Abraham had but one son

Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

When Was Jesus Crucified? Was it the Third hour or the sixth hour?

Christ was crucified at the third hour

Mark 15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.

Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour

John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

John 19:15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

God is more than one entity.

Genesis 1:26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.'

God is one entity.

Genesis 1:27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

Man was created after the other animals.

Genesis 1:25,26,27 24 And God said: 'Let the earth bring forth the living creature after its kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after its kind.' And it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after its kind, and the cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.' 27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

Man was created before the animals.

Genesis 2:18,19

And the LORD God said: 'It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him.' 19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto the man to see what he would call them; and whatsoever the man would call every living creature, that was to be the name thereof.

Seed time and harvest were never to cease

Genesis: 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.'

Seed time and harvest did cease for seven years

Genesis: 41:54, 56/Genesis 45:6 54 And the seven years of famine began to come, according as Joseph had said; and there was famine in all lands; but in all the land of Egypt there was bread.

56 And the famine was over all the face of the earth; and Joseph opened all the storehouses, and sold unto the Egyptians; and the famine was sore in the land of Egypt.

6 For these two years hath the famine been in the land; and there are yet five years, in which there shall be neither plowing nor harvest.

God hardened Pharaoh's heart

Exodus: 4:21 21 And the LORD said unto Moses: 'When thou goest back into Egypt, see that thou do before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in thy hand; but I will harden his heart, and he will not let the people go.

Pharaoh hardened his own heart

15 Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh: 'This is the finger of God'; and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken.

All the cattle and horses in Egypt died

Exodus 9:3 3 behold, the hand of the LORD is upon thy cattle which are in the field, upon the horses, upon the asses, upon the camels, upon the herds, and upon the flocks; there shall be a very grievous murrain.

All the horses of Egypt did not die

Exodus: 14:9 9 And the Egyptians pursued after them, all the horses and chariots of Pharaoh, and his horsemen, and his army, and overtook them encamping by the sea, beside Pi-hahiroth, in front of Baal-zephon.

Moses feared Pharaoh

Exodus 2:14 14 And he said: 'Who made thee a ruler and a judge over us? thinkest thou to kill me, as thou didst kill the Egyptian?' And Moses feared, and said: 'Surely the thing is known.'

Moses did not fear Pharaoh

Hebrews 11:27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

John the Baptist was Elias

Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

Matthew 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

John the Baptist was not Elias

John 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob

Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

The father of Mary's husband was Heli

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
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that was the old covenant. you are 2000 years behind the times
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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These were your questions op -"Why is the Bible so Fucked up? For Example:"

Michal had no child

2 Samuel 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

Michal had five children

2 Samuel 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:


ANSWER TO YOUR FIRST DISCREPRENCY
The mention of five sons of Michal is interesting enough; what makes it more interesting is the father's name! Edriel was none other than the husband of Merav, Michal's older sister (Shemuel I 18:19)!

Sanhedrin 19b resolves this by facts that Michal raised the children after Merav died young. Ralbag (Shemuel I 25:44) augments this by pointing out that if Michal actually was childless, she might have been given the children to raise in the absence of any children of her own
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I WILL CONTINUE WITH YOUR NEXT QUESTION





God cannot lie
Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

God Lies to Abraham

Genesis 22:1-12 1 And it came to pass after these things, that God did prove Abraham, and said unto him: 'Abraham'; and he said: 'Here am I.' 2 And He said: 'Take now thy son, thine only son, whom thou lovest, even Isaac, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt-offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.' 3 And Abraham rose early in the morning, and saddled his ass, and took two of his young men with him, and Isaac his son; and he cleaved the wood for the burnt-offering, and rose up, and went unto the place of which God had told him. 4 On the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off. 5 And Abraham said unto his young men: 'Abide ye here with the ass, and I and the lad will go yonder; and we will worship, and come back to you.' 6 And Abraham took the wood of the burnt-offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took in his hand the fire and the knife; and they went both of them together. 7 And Isaac spoke unto Abraham his father, and said: 'My father.' And he said: 'Here am I, my son.' And he said: 'Behold the fire and the wood; but where is the lamb for a burnt-offering?' 8 And Abraham said: 'God will provide Himself the lamb for a burnt-offering, my son.' So they went both of them together. 9 And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built the altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar, upon the wood. 10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. 11 And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said: 'Abraham, Abraham.' And he said: 'Here am I.' 12 And he said: 'Lay not thy hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him; for now I know that thou art a God-fearing man, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son, from Me.'


GOD DID NOT LIE TO ABRAHAM HE WAS GOING TO TAKE ISAAC BUT THE ANGELS PLEADED WITH HIM AND HE PROVIDED A LAMB INSTEAD. I WILL PROVE THIS

jASHER CHAPTER 23
63 And Abraham heard the words of Isaac, and he lifted up his voice and wept when Isaac spake these words; and Abraham's tears gushed down upon Isaac his son, and Isaac wept bitterly, and he said to his father, Hasten thou, O my father, and do with me the will of the Lord our God as He has commanded thee.


64 And the hearts of Abraham and Isaac rejoiced at this thing which the Lord had commanded them; but the eye wept bitterly whilst the heart rejoiced.


65 And Abraham bound his son Isaac, and placed him on the altar upon the wood, and Isaac stretched forth his neck upon the altar before his father, and Abraham stretched forth his hand to take the knife to slay his son as a burnt offering before the Lord.


66 At that time the angels of mercy came before the Lord and spake to him concerning Isaac, saying,


67 0 Lord, thou art a merciful and compassionate King over all that thou hast created in heaven and in earth, and thou supportest them all; give therefore ransom and redemption instead of thy servant Isaac, and pity and have compassion upon Abraham and Isaac his son, who are this day performing thy commands.


68 Hast thou seen, O Lord, how Isaac the son of Abraham thy servant is bound down to the slaughter like an animal? now therefore let thy pity be roused for them, O Lord.


69 At that time the Lord appeared unto Abraham, and called to him, from heaven, and said unto him, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him, for now I know that thou fearest God in performing this act, and in not withholding thy son, thine only son, from me.





God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying spirits to deceive

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


I WILL PROVE WHY HE SENT STRONG DELUSION "THE CAUSE"BECASUE THE MAN OF SI IS REVEALD AND PEOPLE WILLFULLY FOLLOW AFTER HIM AND NOT REPENT.THIS IS JUST BEFORE THE COMING OF MESSIAH

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.







1 Kings 22:23

Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.


I WILL JUSTIFY WHY GOD PUT A LYING SPIRIT IN THE MOUTHS OF THE PROPHETS ALSO.THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL WERE WORSHIPING IDOLS AND SACRIFICING THEIR CHILDREN AND THEN GOING BEFORE THE PROPHETS FOR COUNSEL

3 Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?

4 Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols;

5 That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.

6 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.

7 For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself:

8 And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.








God is Multiple entites

Genesis 1:26 26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.'

God is one entity

Deuteronomy 6:4 4 Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one.


PROOF
THE WORD GOD WAS INJECTED IN THE BIBLE THE REAL HEBREW WORD IN THAT VERSE IS ELOHIM WHICH IS THE COMBINATION OF THE FATHER THE WORD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.THREE ENTITIES THE FATHER IS GOD ALMIGHTY..THE WORD IS A SPIRIT WHICH BECAME FLESH EVENTUALLY AND IS YESHSHIYEH[jesus] AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.

GOD THE FATHER OF ALL CREATED EVERYTHING BY THE WORD AS HE SPOKE IT..THIS IS THE SAME JESUS IN THE FLESH THE WORD OF GOD

GOD IS ONE THERE IS NO OTHER GOD OR EQUAL THE SON HAS HIS ROLE THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS HER ROLE. THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR WITNESS IN HEAVEN.THE FATHER THE WORD AND THE SPIRIT








Man was created after the other animals.

Genesis 1:25,26,27 24 And God said: 'Let the earth bring forth the living creature after its kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after its kind.' And it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after its kind, and the cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.' 27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

Man was created before the animals.

Genesis 2:18,19

And the LORD God said: 'It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him.' 19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto the man to see what he would call them; and whatsoever the man would call every living creature, that was to be the name thereof.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I WILL DEBUNK THIS ALSO AND THEN REPENT

IF YOU LOOK AT GENESIS CHAPTER TWO YOU WILL SEE IT IS A SUMMARIZATION OF CHAPTER ONE AND I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO PRINT THOSE SCRIPTURES TO PROVE THAT BUT I FEEL THE NEED TO


2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Heb 4:4

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.




4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

The summary starts right after the conclusion above and as follows

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


all questions answered
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op you asked for answers in the other thread and i gave it .You ran off and started this one.At least be man and acknowledge that you do not understand and you were wrong

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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that was the old covenant. you are 2000 years behind the times
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Malachi 3:6
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6 For I am the Lord, I change not
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well, fuck you all

the aztec sun stone is in the bible

suck on that
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The Bible is pretty awesome, you can pick and choose which version you enjoy the most. Each version offering something else for everyone!
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God continues to love you, even tho you curse His name and blaspheme Him.

But, there will be a point of no return if you continue along this path.

Please ask Him for forgiveness and turn it around before it's too late. He adores you.

:love21:
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We don't curse God, we curse the God YOU worship that is vile and evil.
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I haven't seen your evidence to prove else wise genius... got anything besides your say so? I have Jesus Christ and His word
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You have a book given to you by people who say it is "His word". And you swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
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Again... what do you have??
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Logic and reason. Real god given gifts. Not a man made book. It's a cop out when christians say "who can know the mind of god?" As if it's absurd to think that god should make sense. It is so easy to punch holes in the patchwork of bullshit that is "the bible" using simple logic and reason.
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Well.. logic and reason has no foundation... because that would dictate that everything is permissible... meaning that you can sleep with your neighbors spouse and because you don't think there is anything wrong with it, your neighbor might... and if he or she breaks your door down for vengeance who is right or wrong?

Your truths are just that... yours... the Holy Scripture... thousands of people had witnessed Jesus Christ and His testimony was written down... he has given the law... Gods law... it is the foundation
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Has Jesus ever said Yahweh is the father? I am curious? Is Yahweh the father of Jesus? Can anybody put any quotes to support or oppose it?
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How do you know its his word? How do you know 100% that the bible hasnt been manipulated? It is pretty moronic to base your life around a belief system that has been used for control for thousands of years just because you are afraid of burning in hell for eternity...
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You really don't know GOD nor the Bible..your posts reflect that..You will never hear nor see until your heart hears..


How do you know you *Love* someone?
Can you prove you LOVE someone?

If so how?


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Why do you never answer my questions you just throw out some idiotic rebuttle with nothing of importance...

You know you love someone when you would do anything for them. JESUS CHRIST DID..

If your god asked you to cut your arm off would you?
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Once again you didnt answer my question... no he didnt, he didnt sacrifice himself... he was murdered...

If god asked you to cut off your arm would you do it without asking any questions and taking it on faith that it is truly god who is talking to you?
In Lak`ech.
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Well.. logic and reason has no foundation... because that would dictate that everything is permissible... meaning that you can sleep with your neighbors spouse and because you don't think there is anything wrong with it, your neighbor might... and if he or she breaks your door down for vengeance who is right or wrong?
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^^this is a straw man. You set it up, and then beat it down. I don't know how you jump from using logic and reason to doing whatever you want and sleeping with neighbor's wives.

Your truths are just that... yours... the Holy Scripture... thousands of people had witnessed Jesus Christ and His testimony was written down... he has given the law... Gods law... it is the foundation
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Again, everything you say here is according to a book. You witnessed nothing. You accept as truth a book that TELLS YOU there were thousands of witnesses, and it's god's law.
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Anyone with a brain can tear apart every argument that the Christian lays on you.

They say that the Old Testament and New Testament are two different books BUT they tell you that God and Jesus are one. How can this be? Either Jesus is one God and God is another God or they are both the same. If they are the same, then God (who kills infants and animals) is the same character as the Jesus character. You can't have it both ways.

They tell you that you are mistranslating the Bible when (in the case of this thread) the only thing you are really doing is quoting DIRECT Bible verses. They see that the Yahweh character is evil. They know this...BUT they have to make up excuses for him. So they hit ya with the old, "You are translating those verses the wrong way." NO RETARD, I am simply printing the Bible verses verbatim into a thread. I am not translating anything incorrectly. Go read your Bible, you stupid sheep.

They tell you that God is love BUT they say he is a God of revenge. How can this be? If God is love, then you would not have him killing a baby to punish his father. Again, read the Bible, you stupid fool. David committed a sin with Bathsheba and God killed his son, a slow and painful seven day death for a baby. David performed a census. God didn't want him to do it so he killed 70,000 INNOCENT people. Some youths made fun of a prophet's bald head, their only sin. God sent two bears out of the woods to kill the 42 kids. This is not a GOOD character. Again, read your stupid Bible.

Ever notice how blood sacrifice is the entire theme of the Bible? Ever notice how God required a perfect animal to be sacrificed to him? Ever read the story of Jepthath who sacrificed his own daughter on a altar to God? Ever wonder why this daughter HAD to be a virgin? Ever notice how the old pagan religions always had human sacrifices of children to their Gods? Ever notice how paganism is the very foundation of the Bible?

If you never even read the damned Bible, you will think it is a wonderful book, filled with wonderful insights. IF you actually READ the fucked up book, you will become an atheist. You will realize you have been conned. But because most Christians are basically lazy, and want to have their ears tickled by pastors who tell them, "GOD LOVES YOU," you won't find too many out there actually reading the book.

So, for people like me, I am put on ignore. Or someone may come back and insult me and I will laugh as usual. Christians are the biggest cowards on the planet. They KNOW, without a doubt, that their religion is fucked up. But because they are weak, fear-filled, creatures of habit, they hang on until the day they die. And then they die, and that is the end. So sad, you wonder why they refuse to grow up?
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So he is all knowing? So before he created me he knew i wouldnt believe his word therefore he destined my soul to hell by creating me.

Do you really think god sees things in the same dualistic fashion we do?
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We live in a 3 Dimensional Physical World...

GOD created Free Will which means he gives every soul an opportunity to know him...Maybe what he knows about *YOU* is that you will have to face Tribulations of the Worst Kind before you finally believe.....

It's not that you can't, it is that you won't....

If you wanted to really know GOD..You would get off this computer, turn all the noise off in your house get on your knees with a heartfelt passion for GOD to reveal himself to you..

You would tell GOD..I don't know how to believe in you.
I don't understand you..

But if you are willing, My heart and mind is truly opened to meeting and knowing you...


If you truly meant that..GOD would come to you, that I can guarantee..

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I do know god. I pray to him and give thanks every day. Just not your god aka saturn.
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What GOD do you pray to?
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I pray to source. He has no name and it is not a gender. The god i pray to is everything and it exists within all of us. It splits itself into billions of pieces in order to experience all versions of life. It loves unconditionally and does not have an eternal fate for any of its souls because it loves everything.
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You really don't know GOD nor the Bible..your posts reflect that..You will never hear nor see until your heart hears..


How do you know you *Love* someone?
Can you prove you LOVE someone?

If so how?


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Why do you never answer my questions you just throw out some idiotic rebuttle with nothing of importance...

You know you love someone when you would do anything for them. JESUS CHRIST DID..

If your god asked you to cut your arm off would you?
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Once again you didnt answer my question... no he didnt, he didnt sacrifice himself... he was murdered...

If god asked you to cut off your arm would you do it without asking any questions and taking it on faith that it is truly god who is talking to you?
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IN-CORRECT....

JOHN 10:18

No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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Yahweh, the God of Christianity is evil.

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Burned to Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Stoning rape victims

If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city. Deuteronomy 22:23-24


Genocide and Infant Massacre

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Samuel also said unto Saul, The LORD sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the LORD.
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Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
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Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
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And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
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And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.
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And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye showed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.
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And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.
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And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.
(1 Samuel , Chapter 15)



In one Verse in the BIble it will say one thing and then in another verse it will say something totally different about the same thing, lets look at a few I have posted here:


Did Abraham have 1 or 2 sons?

Abraham Had Two Sons

Galatians 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

Abraham had but one son

Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

When Was Jesus Crucified? Was it the Third hour or the sixth hour?

Christ was crucified at the third hour

Mark 15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.

Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour

John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

John 19:15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

God is more than one entity.

Genesis 1:26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.'

God is one entity.

Genesis 1:27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

Man was created after the other animals.

Genesis 1:25,26,27 24 And God said: 'Let the earth bring forth the living creature after its kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after its kind.' And it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after its kind, and the cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.' 27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

Man was created before the animals.

Genesis 2:18,19

And the LORD God said: 'It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him.' 19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto the man to see what he would call them; and whatsoever the man would call every living creature, that was to be the name thereof.

Seed time and harvest were never to cease

Genesis: 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.'

Seed time and harvest did cease for seven years

Genesis: 41:54, 56/Genesis 45:6 54 And the seven years of famine began to come, according as Joseph had said; and there was famine in all lands; but in all the land of Egypt there was bread.

56 And the famine was over all the face of the earth; and Joseph opened all the storehouses, and sold unto the Egyptians; and the famine was sore in the land of Egypt.

6 For these two years hath the famine been in the land; and there are yet five years, in which there shall be neither plowing nor harvest.

God hardened Pharaoh's heart

Exodus: 4:21 21 And the LORD said unto Moses: 'When thou goest back into Egypt, see that thou do before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in thy hand; but I will harden his heart, and he will not let the people go.

Pharaoh hardened his own heart

15 Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh: 'This is the finger of God'; and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken.

All the cattle and horses in Egypt died

Exodus 9:3 3 behold, the hand of the LORD is upon thy cattle which are in the field, upon the horses, upon the asses, upon the camels, upon the herds, and upon the flocks; there shall be a very grievous murrain.

All the horses of Egypt did not die

Exodus: 14:9 9 And the Egyptians pursued after them, all the horses and chariots of Pharaoh, and his horsemen, and his army, and overtook them encamping by the sea, beside Pi-hahiroth, in front of Baal-zephon.

Moses feared Pharaoh

Exodus 2:14 14 And he said: 'Who made thee a ruler and a judge over us? thinkest thou to kill me, as thou didst kill the Egyptian?' And Moses feared, and said: 'Surely the thing is known.'

Moses did not fear Pharaoh

Hebrews 11:27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

John the Baptist was Elias

Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

Matthew 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

John the Baptist was not Elias

John 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob

Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

The father of Mary's husband was Heli

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
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First of all it is not a christian bible, second most of the things you posted are good if you were in a community and there was a thief or whore going around commit evil or lying putting people in trouble then get rid of them easy as pie, third most of this things only apply to a certain tribe of Israel, fourth go back to sucking the devils dick you lying dog you have no idea what you just posted you just look up verses that seem bad in our modern society without reading other verses to understand when they apply and why they were placed there in the first place.
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First off... NLT is not the same as KJV and NIV which are the most accurate

Second if you finish reading the Bible you will see a different story through Jesus Christ...

John 8

3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

11 “No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

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...and to really understand what it all means, one must study that actual native language from which the Bible is translated from.

In most cases (as in this one) people don't really care. They just wish to blaspheme and care nothing for the truth, though, they say they are about "truth", yet we can find no truth in them.

Get an NIV Bible and a direct translation text and go to work, OP. You'll find the Bible takes on a whole new dimension when you find out what it REALLY means and not just a fuzzy translation with your wishful thinking.

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