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VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
So this prick, wife's cousin... green card holder even though he violated the rules to keep it repeatedly and the government threatened to take it away from him... never did.

He brings his wife and three kids over here to live with his mother, who is their sponsor, and who is supposed to gurantee they will not become charges of the state.

On the ground here for 3 months, already getting $700 month in welfare benefits, plus the kids get free healthcare.

Both the husband and wife have part-time jobs, because they do not want to work full-time.... because if they did, they would be too tired after staying up all night and talking to their relatives/friends in the Philippines.

They bought a new car when they got here... on his credit. They did not make payments and it was repo'd a couple of weeks ago. Partly because the asshole had run up 15K on his credit cards and could not make all the payments.

So they go out, using the wife's credit (she had one credit card with a $500 limit) lie about their actual income, and get another loan on another new car... $480 a month payments for 6 years on a 20K car. High interest... paid more than sticker price due to a bunch of shit the dealer added on. They are so upside down on this it is pathetic.

I work... I pay my own healthcare (just the premiums are 13K for family of four)... drive a 1993 jeep and a 2006 Altima... and paid a shit load of money in taxes ($2,500 per month are taken out of paychecks).

These fuckers are not even Americans, they get money from the government, free healthcare..

And what really pissed me off this morning... they are getting $3K back in taxes because of a child tax credit. They can't wait to file their taxes so they can get that money. AND... SPEND IT BEFORE HE FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY.

This country is fucked... Totally fucked. This government is fucked...

We were unsure about the new year tax situation, so we cut back just like everyone else did and drove this economy into the negative... The American people need to cut back even more. Choke this government out and end this bull-shit now.
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Sick ain't it?
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Liar I am a paralegal in a large law firm you cant get benefits for 3 years and the sponsor has to put up tax information for last 5 years
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02/05/2013 10:22 AM
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Liar I am a paralegal in a large law firm you cant get benefits for 3 years and the sponsor has to put up tax information for last 5 years
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^wrong. you're either misinformed or just ignorant.
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jealous much ??

cruise
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jealous much ??

cruise
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lmaooooooO

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phillipinos gonna phillipine
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02/05/2013 10:42 AM
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
On the plus side, they are helping us toward reset from obongo's marxist utopia and his race for destruction. Shouldn't be long now. Multiply similar situations that you describe by millions brought in just for that purpose. You are paying for the political scum to buy their vote. Nice.
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When I was young, I had a friend from Columbia. She said she was told that in America, the streets were paved with gold and people were given all sorts of money and luxury items. That it was paradise.

I think the reason we are oversaturated with immigrants is because they think it is freebie paradise over here and there are some, like your relatives, OP, that are living in the manner that they expected to live when they chose to come here.

People coming from poor areas think they have reached their nirvana when they get here and are handed money and credit cards. They don't know have to handle money responsibly because they never had it before.

I remember a woman I knew from Mexico who had won over a hundred thousand in a medical lawsuit for a botched surgery. She bought the house accross the street from my parents and pretty much spent everything she had within a year. Then when she was destitute again, she had to go move back to the ghetto with her sister.

Some people have never learned how to handle money. It's a huge problem.

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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
Liar I am a paralegal in a large law firm you cant get benefits for 3 years and the sponsor has to put up tax information for last 5 years
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11409207


^wrong. you're either misinformed or just ignorant.
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I thought so myself... and I called the offices in Harris county that handle welfare. Yes, they do qualify for both Welfare and the medicaid. They said it is not going to the parents -- but to the children. They do not report information to the Federal government so the feds would not go after the mother/grandmother for not suporting.

She would not discuss their particlar application for support -- she only talked in general. The lady seemed to agree with me that the system is screwed-up. She said they see a lot of fraud and usually catch it after a few months -- but she did not think that what I described was fraud, that they were entitled to the money under the Texas/Federal regulation.
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
College kids are buying new cars with their pell grants. I'm glad all those school loans are supporting the used car lots and financers. Basically, everyone is making money off this "free" money shit.

Oh, and the students think the pell grant is "free."
Who is John Galt?
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02/05/2013 10:46 AM
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Gotta have car to work. Right?
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02/05/2013 10:48 AM
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What kind of car? Does it get good gas mileage?? Is it eco-friendly? chuckle

Seriously though... don't get too worked up over it :) At the rate this fine country is going, 90% of us will not be able to afford gas by the end of the summer, will not have jobs, will not have electricity, etc. If there was ever a time to throw your hands up and say "screw it, I'm goin' all in", I do believe it is now.

peace
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phillipinos gonna phillipine
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This. A louthsome people.
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02/05/2013 10:55 AM
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
I get to work by bus. No car needed here.

My husband and I brought his niece, her husband and their 3 kids to Texas from California where they were unemployed and completely on government aid.

The husband got a full time job right away, our niece got a full time job offer right away (In spite of the fact that she speaks no English.), but she wouldn't go to work till their food stamps got cut!

We threw them out after they turned on me. I'm the only white person in the house. In spite of the fact that I was paying ALL of the household bills and was really nice to them and their kids, they wanted to "keep" my house and kick me out. I never felt more empowered than when my husband and I booted them out.

They are still here in town, both working full tine and off the government teat.
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bump and 5* to offset obongo shills
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It's Free! Swipe Your EBT! From Sea to Shining Sea! God Bless America!

Served with a lot of good people from the Phillipines in the Military. Hard workers and some tough little bastards to boot.

Look it this way, OP, your relatives are keeping a lot of, ahem, civil service workers employed shuffling and steering paperwork. God Bless them, they're helping the economy. If we had more like them, unemployment would be down to 33% (wait, what?).

Welcome to America, OP cousins. Glad to have you.

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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
jealous much ??

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33735184


I'd say this stems from more emotions than merely jealousy. Nothing bad on you, OP, that is. Hell, I'm trying to get similar assistance myself considering the fact my town barely has any jobs and the job market in my town's rather the death trap... for fast food jobs only. I'm wanting to start up my own little computer business too. While I do share your disgust, OP, at such blantant abuse of our Welfare system I also hate the fact that people such as you and myself, OP, if we were to try, or are trying anyways, we have to either feign Mental Health issues, physical health issues, and or legitimately be crippled one way or another and even THEN it's a goddamn crap shoot while there are lots of others who are perfectly healthy, not U.S. citizens to boot, who'll get vast amounts of benefits while happily rubbing our faces in their shit and tell us it's rainbow sherbert! I for one would just like to have an apartment to live in, some assistance in my money situation and if I can ever get my computer business going, things would be grand. Yeah so I'd have to live within my means, at least I'd have the nessessary items I need to live with and off of and not a bunch of useless crap that I'll never need and STILL fuckin' hoard as if somehow that'll make me cool or somehow enhance my social status. Ugh!
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It's Free! Swipe Your EBT! From Sea to Shining Sea! God Bless America!

Served with a lot of good people from the Phillipines in the Military. Hard workers and some tough little bastards to boot.

Look it this way, OP, your relatives are keeping a lot of, ahem, civil service workers employed shuffling and steering paperwork. God Bless them, they're helping the economy. If we had more like them, unemployment would be down to 33% (wait, what?).

Welcome to America, OP cousins. Glad to have you.

A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage (give them one of yours, OP).
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Why thank you, BxMac, for your propaganda-ized outlook on things!
Attention! Come to the Dark... not only do we have double chocolate chocolate chip cookies, but we have dark chocolate fudge cake... and GLaDOS!!
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
I get to work by bus. No car needed here.

My husband and I brought his niece, her husband and their 3 kids to Texas from California where they were unemployed and completely on government aid.

The husband got a full time job right away, our niece got a full time job offer right away (In spite of the fact that she speaks no English.), but she wouldn't go to work till their food stamps got cut!

We threw them out after they turned on me. I'm the only white person in the house. In spite of the fact that I was paying ALL of the household bills and was really nice to them and their kids, they wanted to "keep" my house and kick me out. I never felt more empowered than when my husband and I booted them out.

They are still here in town, both working full tine and off the government teat.
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Well can anybody see the pearl of wisdom from this story? "I'm the only white person in the house" what did you expect?
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
I have a friend doing similar, works 2 days a week to keep 15 dollars a month rent. Buys video games, iphone5's, slacks on finishing college. He has a ton of kids now, lives in our equivilant ghetto, and believes he is doing amazing in life. My friends and I pretty much shun him now, since we all work our ass off to pay normal rent, bills, and our own way in life.

I am convinced if he dosent get the message in a few years he will be wearing an Obama civilian corps armband rounding up us dissenters.

I keep him at double arms length until he proves us otherwise he is ready to man up and provide a life for his kids.

I hate it because I loved him so much as a friend over the years, only to watch him squander self progress, for welfare status quo.
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
College kids are buying new cars with their pell grants. I'm glad all those school loans are supporting the used car lots and financers. Basically, everyone is making money off this "free" money shit.

Oh, and the students think the pell grant is "free."
 Quoting: Renegade (Me too)


My roomates logic -> (It's money from the government! If we don't use it someone else will! Screw the big corporations! Screw big business!)
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College kids are buying new cars with their pell grants. I'm glad all those school loans are supporting the used car lots and financers. Basically, everyone is making money off this "free" money shit.

Oh, and the students think the pell grant is "free."
 Quoting: Renegade (Me too)


My roomates logic -> (It's money from the government! If we don't use it someone else will! Screw the big corporations! Screw big business!)
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Are you sure there using money from pell grants for cars? The pell grants I got barely paid for my books.
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College kids are buying new cars with their pell grants. I'm glad all those school loans are supporting the used car lots and financers. Basically, everyone is making money off this "free" money shit.

Oh, and the students think the pell grant is "free."
 Quoting: Renegade (Me too)


My roomates logic -> (It's money from the government! If we don't use it someone else will! Screw the big corporations! Screw big business!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26023511


Are you sure there using money from pell grants for cars? The pell grants I got barely paid for my books.
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I help as I can Dark.

The ship is sinking and the water's on fire, but as long as we're all singing "Row, row, row, your boat" I'm holding to "Life is but a dream."

Give me your poor, tired and huddled masses and we'll do the rest. Cable for all, high speed internet access, vacations in June or July (and if you don't work...you get 12 month vacations). Streets are paved with gold.

Land of the Free. Keep swiping that EBT.

I sure OP gives his kin one of his cars.
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jealous much ??

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33735184


I'd say this stems from more emotions than merely jealousy. Nothing bad on you, OP, that is. Hell, I'm trying to get similar assistance myself considering the fact my town barely has any jobs and the job market in my town's rather the death trap... for fast food jobs only. I'm wanting to start up my own little computer business too. While I do share your disgust, OP, at such blantant abuse of our Welfare system I also hate the fact that people such as you and myself, OP, if we were to try, or are trying anyways, we have to either feign Mental Health issues, physical health issues, and or legitimately be crippled one way or another and even THEN it's a goddamn crap shoot while there are lots of others who are perfectly healthy, not U.S. citizens to boot, who'll get vast amounts of benefits while happily rubbing our faces in their shit and tell us it's rainbow sherbert! I for one would just like to have an apartment to live in, some assistance in my money situation and if I can ever get my computer business going, things would be grand. Yeah so I'd have to live within my means, at least I'd have the nessessary items I need to live with and off of and not a bunch of useless crap that I'll never need and STILL fuckin' hoard as if somehow that'll make me cool or somehow enhance my social status. Ugh!
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Put on 200 lbs. and disability assistance is automatic and you get an electric wheelchair scooter to boot.
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jealous much ??

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33735184


I'd say this stems from more emotions than merely jealousy. Nothing bad on you, OP, that is. Hell, I'm trying to get similar assistance myself considering the fact my town barely has any jobs and the job market in my town's rather the death trap... for fast food jobs only. I'm wanting to start up my own little computer business too. While I do share your disgust, OP, at such blantant abuse of our Welfare system I also hate the fact that people such as you and myself, OP, if we were to try, or are trying anyways, we have to either feign Mental Health issues, physical health issues, and or legitimately be crippled one way or another and even THEN it's a goddamn crap shoot while there are lots of others who are perfectly healthy, not U.S. citizens to boot, who'll get vast amounts of benefits while happily rubbing our faces in their shit and tell us it's rainbow sherbert! I for one would just like to have an apartment to live in, some assistance in my money situation and if I can ever get my computer business going, things would be grand. Yeah so I'd have to live within my means, at least I'd have the nessessary items I need to live with and off of and not a bunch of useless crap that I'll never need and STILL fuckin' hoard as if somehow that'll make me cool or somehow enhance my social status. Ugh!
 Quoting: darkwolf007



I am okay with American Citizens using the safety net. I will use it if I ever need it. Assuming it is still there should I need it.

I just have a problem with people who are not Americans and never paid into the system -- getting benefits. Especially when they use that to make a car payment on a new car.

Kia... to respond to a previous post. Some sort of SUV. Too small to do much, they can't even safely get their family of 5 in it...

And yes, to another poster, they do need a car to get to work... but they do not need a new one considering the money to pay for it comes from the American tax payer. And... they had a camaro there that was very drivable. looked like crap, but ran just fine. I believe they traded it in on the first car... the one that was repo'd.
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
So this prick, wife's cousin... green card holder even though he violated the rules to keep it repeatedly and the government threatened to take it away from him... never did.

He brings his wife and three kids over here to live with his mother, who is their sponsor, and who is supposed to gurantee they will not become charges of the state.

On the ground here for 3 months, already getting $700 month in welfare benefits, plus the kids get free healthcare.

Both the husband and wife have part-time jobs, because they do not want to work full-time.... because if they did, they would be too tired after staying up all night and talking to their relatives/friends in the Philippines.

They bought a new car when they got here... on his credit. They did not make payments and it was repo'd a couple of weeks ago. Partly because the asshole had run up 15K on his credit cards and could not make all the payments.

So they go out, using the wife's credit (she had one credit card with a $500 limit) lie about their actual income, and get another loan on another new car... $480 a month payments for 6 years on a 20K car. High interest... paid more than sticker price due to a bunch of shit the dealer added on. They are so upside down on this it is pathetic.

I work... I pay my own healthcare (just the premiums are 13K for family of four)... drive a 1993 jeep and a 2006 Altima... and paid a shit load of money in taxes ($2,500 per month are taken out of paychecks).

These fuckers are not even Americans, they get money from the government, free healthcare..

And what really pissed me off this morning... they are getting $3K back in taxes because of a child tax credit. They can't wait to file their taxes so they can get that money. AND... SPEND IT BEFORE HE FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY.

This country is fucked... Totally fucked. This government is fucked...

We were unsure about the new year tax situation, so we cut back just like everyone else did and drove this economy into the negative... The American people need to cut back even more. Choke this government out and end this bull-shit now.
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just call the DHS hotline and report that you seen them carrying in guns and cans of black powder and fertilizer in the house..They will raid the house quickly
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I feel your rage, OP.

Shit's gotta end. Fast.

Time for Atlas to shrug...
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What kind of car? Does it get good gas mileage?? Is it eco-friendly? chuckle

Seriously though... don't get too worked up over it :) At the rate this fine country is going, 90% of us will not be able to afford gas by the end of the summer, will not have jobs, will not have electricity, etc. If there was ever a time to throw your hands up and say "screw it, I'm goin' all in", I do believe it is now.

peace
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Ford F-150
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What kind of car? Does it get good gas mileage?? Is it eco-friendly? chuckle

Seriously though... don't get too worked up over it :) At the rate this fine country is going, 90% of us will not be able to afford gas by the end of the summer, will not have jobs, will not have electricity, etc. If there was ever a time to throw your hands up and say "screw it, I'm goin' all in", I do believe it is now.

peace
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Ford F-150
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1rof1 Wouldn't surprise me one bit!

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