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VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car

 
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jealous much ??

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I'd say this stems from more emotions than merely jealousy. Nothing bad on you, OP, that is. Hell, I'm trying to get similar assistance myself considering the fact my town barely has any jobs and the job market in my town's rather the death trap... for fast food jobs only. I'm wanting to start up my own little computer business too. While I do share your disgust, OP, at such blantant abuse of our Welfare system I also hate the fact that people such as you and myself, OP, if we were to try, or are trying anyways, we have to either feign Mental Health issues, physical health issues, and or legitimately be crippled one way or another and even THEN it's a goddamn crap shoot while there are lots of others who are perfectly healthy, not U.S. citizens to boot, who'll get vast amounts of benefits while happily rubbing our faces in their shit and tell us it's rainbow sherbert! I for one would just like to have an apartment to live in, some assistance in my money situation and if I can ever get my computer business going, things would be grand. Yeah so I'd have to live within my means, at least I'd have the nessessary items I need to live with and off of and not a bunch of useless crap that I'll never need and STILL fuckin' hoard as if somehow that'll make me cool or somehow enhance my social status. Ugh!
 Quoting: darkwolf007


There is a big difference between someone who is trying to find a job and cannot and my white, young, relatives who work contract jobs so they can write off just enough of their income to still qualify for food stamps, free healthcare for their children, and light and gas vouchers. Oh and these relatives of mine just bought a brand new Mustang. I paid $6000 for each of my children when I had them. It took a year to pay my daughter off. They just haul their non ashamed butts on down and sign up for Medicaid. They are thinking of trying for another child. Not a care in the world. I understand OP's point completely.
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I feel your rage, OP.

Shit's gotta end. Fast.

Time for Atlas to shrug...
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Oh it will end the real question is when? Will we see it coming? And what will the aftermath look like?
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haters gone hate.
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haters gone hate.
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jealous much ??

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33735184


I'd say this stems from more emotions than merely jealousy. Nothing bad on you, OP, that is. Hell, I'm trying to get similar assistance myself considering the fact my town barely has any jobs and the job market in my town's rather the death trap... for fast food jobs only. I'm wanting to start up my own little computer business too. While I do share your disgust, OP, at such blantant abuse of our Welfare system I also hate the fact that people such as you and myself, OP, if we were to try, or are trying anyways, we have to either feign Mental Health issues, physical health issues, and or legitimately be crippled one way or another and even THEN it's a goddamn crap shoot while there are lots of others who are perfectly healthy, not U.S. citizens to boot, who'll get vast amounts of benefits while happily rubbing our faces in their shit and tell us it's rainbow sherbert! I for one would just like to have an apartment to live in, some assistance in my money situation and if I can ever get my computer business going, things would be grand. Yeah so I'd have to live within my means, at least I'd have the nessessary items I need to live with and off of and not a bunch of useless crap that I'll never need and STILL fuckin' hoard as if somehow that'll make me cool or somehow enhance my social status. Ugh!
 Quoting: darkwolf007


There is a big difference between someone who is trying to find a job and cannot and my white, young, relatives who work contract jobs so they can write off just enough of their income to still qualify for food stamps, free healthcare for their children, and light and gas vouchers. Oh and these relatives of mine just bought a brand new Mustang. I paid $6000 for each of my children when I had them. It took a year to pay my daughter off. They just haul their non ashamed butts on down and sign up for Medicaid. They are thinking of trying for another child. Not a care in the world. I understand OP's point completely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29749468


True, AC. Due to my job hunting and lack of finding anything that's in my field which is the IT field, and finding out that the only way I can find ANY decent job that I don't have to worry about being fired within the first week due to some twisted Corporate logic or getting fucked over by stupid ass teenagers so they can have more of their friends with them is if I have my own vehicle so I can look outside of town for a job. I'm wanting a truck of my own so I can use as a work truck. At least that way it'd pay for itself eventually.

Apparently not many people understand the fact that in order to get your life off of the ground, it requires a fair amount of money, if you've been dirt fuckin' poor all of your life against your will it's entirely your fault and you're too stupid and lazy as far as those losers are concerned. I'd absolutely love it for all of those losers to be stripped of everything but the clothes off of their backs and forced to scrounge around for even a goddamn penny. Having to fight for their fleeting moments of happiness for actual deeper happiness is a literal impossiblity, having to remain in an ever deepening depression because of one's pathetic situation. I'm just partially glad that severe depression is an actual clinical thing one can use to get help in various forms nowadays. I found this out last Tuesday that severe depression seems to be right up there with "And here's your free money... er, benefits, and here's everything you'll ever really need to get a sliver of happiness in your life,!". I fight my severe depression day in and day out. I'd like to continue fighting it without drugs and would rather go the all natural route. I stiffly believe that if I can get enough assistance living at the very bottom of the barrel of Middle Class I can earn my keep thereafter assuming I make intelligent choices thereafter. My mom did teach me how to thrift shop and stretch dollars... which is how my sisters, myself, and herself survived all of this time.

May your wife's cousin, OP, get what's coming to him! May justice be served!
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
So this prick, wife's cousin... green card holder even though he violated the rules to keep it repeatedly and the government threatened to take it away from him... never did.

He brings his wife and three kids over here to live with his mother, who is their sponsor, and who is supposed to gurantee they will not become charges of the state.

On the ground here for 3 months, already getting $700 month in welfare benefits, plus the kids get free healthcare.

Both the husband and wife have part-time jobs, because they do not want to work full-time.... because if they did, they would be too tired after staying up all night and talking to their relatives/friends in the Philippines.

They bought a new car when they got here... on his credit. They did not make payments and it was repo'd a couple of weeks ago. Partly because the asshole had run up 15K on his credit cards and could not make all the payments.

So they go out, using the wife's credit (she had one credit card with a $500 limit) lie about their actual income, and get another loan on another new car... $480 a month payments for 6 years on a 20K car. High interest... paid more than sticker price due to a bunch of shit the dealer added on. They are so upside down on this it is pathetic.

I work... I pay my own healthcare (just the premiums are 13K for family of four)... drive a 1993 jeep and a 2006 Altima... and paid a shit load of money in taxes ($2,500 per month are taken out of paychecks).

These fuckers are not even Americans, they get money from the government, free healthcare..

And what really pissed me off this morning... they are getting $3K back in taxes because of a child tax credit. They can't wait to file their taxes so they can get that money. AND... SPEND IT BEFORE HE FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY.

This country is fucked... Totally fucked. This government is fucked...

We were unsure about the new year tax situation, so we cut back just like everyone else did and drove this economy into the negative... The American people need to cut back even more. Choke this government out and end this bull-shit now.
 Quoting: TraderRob


This used to piss me off too, until I realized something: That is all people like that will ever have. Should they have it? No. But they will never excel, succeed or rise above. People who do this kind of stuff do it because they are satisfied with having a part-time job, free healthcare, and a tax refund to blow at Best Buy. They have nothing real to look forward to. They will die accomplishing nothing.

Please note that I am talking about a specific type of person on welfare, not all or even most welfare recipients.

So when I see my neighbors with $800 in food stamps, a nice car, blowing money at the corner gas station on lottery tickets and beer, I just remember: They will still be there in 10 years.

Where will you be?

This doesn't solve the problem. But it does make me less angry.
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
haters gone hate.
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AC, I don't believe OP's a hater at all. Merely consumed with intense frustration at the lack of justice of his wife's cousin's flagrant misuse of the Welfare system. I stiffly believe that one should only be able to be on Welfare for a few years at max in order to help the family or individual get back on their feet or if they've been robbed of damn near every chance in life to help them have additional chances in life so they can be happier and lead successful and happier lives. I also don't believe that I hate in this case, AC, for sharing OP's views about this case. Though I find it somewhat intriguing that you're so ignorant or otherwise just plain numb in every conceivable fashion that you've reduced this major issue down to an umbrella term of a meme.
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
This doesn't solve the problem. But it does make me less angry.
 Quoting: BossBitch


I would be willing to accept that... but their actions cost us money. It puts us further in debt. More money for our children to pay back.. plus interest.

Honestly, we had a bad quarter... it was proof of what the American worker and taxpayer can do. We can do it again this quarter and send a stronger message.
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
They are from the Philipines?Hard to believe because I have NEVER heard of any lazy,shiftless Asians in my life.Those people usually have a "work till you drop" attitude.......
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
So this prick, wife's cousin... green card holder even though he violated the rules to keep it repeatedly and the government threatened to take it away from him... never did.

He brings his wife and three kids over here to live with his mother, who is their sponsor, and who is supposed to gurantee they will not become charges of the state.

On the ground here for 3 months, already getting $700 month in welfare benefits, plus the kids get free healthcare.

Both the husband and wife have part-time jobs, because they do not want to work full-time.... because if they did, they would be too tired after staying up all night and talking to their relatives/friends in the Philippines.

They bought a new car when they got here... on his credit. They did not make payments and it was repo'd a couple of weeks ago. Partly because the asshole had run up 15K on his credit cards and could not make all the payments.

So they go out, using the wife's credit (she had one credit card with a $500 limit) lie about their actual income, and get another loan on another new car... $480 a month payments for 6 years on a 20K car. High interest... paid more than sticker price due to a bunch of shit the dealer added on. They are so upside down on this it is pathetic.

I work... I pay my own healthcare (just the premiums are 13K for family of four)... drive a 1993 jeep and a 2006 Altima... and paid a shit load of money in taxes ($2,500 per month are taken out of paychecks).

These fuckers are not even Americans, they get money from the government, free healthcare..

And what really pissed me off this morning... they are getting $3K back in taxes because of a child tax credit. They can't wait to file their taxes so they can get that money. AND... SPEND IT BEFORE HE FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY.

This country is fucked... Totally fucked. This government is fucked...

We were unsure about the new year tax situation, so we cut back just like everyone else did and drove this economy into the negative... The American people need to cut back even more. Choke this government out and end this bull-shit now.
 Quoting: TraderRob


This used to piss me off too, until I realized something: That is all people like that will ever have. Should they have it? No. But they will never excel, succeed or rise above. People who do this kind of stuff do it because they are satisfied with having a part-time job, free healthcare, and a tax refund to blow at Best Buy. They have nothing real to look forward to. They will die accomplishing nothing.

Please note that I am talking about a specific type of person on welfare, not all or even most welfare recipients.

So when I see my neighbors with $800 in food stamps, a nice car, blowing money at the corner gas station on lottery tickets and beer, I just remember: They will still be there in 10 years.

Where will you be?

This doesn't solve the problem. But it does make me less angry.
 Quoting: BossBitch


I agree with too you an extent but at what point will they overwhelm the system? Look up Cloward-Piven strategy

Why do you think they what to nationalize 11 million illegal immigrants

We need to get mad and fast because time is running out
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I agree with too you an extent but at what point will they overwhelm the system? Look up Cloward-Piven strategy

Why do you think they what to nationalize 11 million illegal immigrants

We need to get mad and fast because time is running out
 Quoting: YaRight


I am familiar with the Cloward-Piven strategy... read all about that after Glenn Beck kept bringing it up.

Times are different though... we do not have a few hundred billion in debt like we did 40-50 years ago, we have 16T and rising fast. The dollar is on the back end of demise. The collapse that the C-P strategy is looking for will not lead to a collapse and rebirth of the welfare system alone, it lead to a total global financial collapse. Giving welfare receipents worthless dollars to buy expensive food with will not placate them.

The question then becomes, do the American people want this collapse to happen before gun laws are changed, so that we can protect ourselves... or do we sit back and let the communists execute their plans in the order they choose..

It may be time to sink this economy and pull the plug now. We have shown that we can drop nearly 3% off of the GDP in one quarter alone... and we didn't even try.

Let sequestration kick-in, stop buying anything and everything.... and sink it.
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Re: VENT: My stupid ass relatives on Welfare and Medicaid... just bought new car
I agree with too you an extent but at what point will they overwhelm the system? Look up Cloward-Piven strategy

Why do you think they what to nationalize 11 million illegal immigrants

We need to get mad and fast because time is running out
 Quoting: YaRight


I am familiar with the Cloward-Piven strategy... read all about that after Glenn Beck kept bringing it up.

Times are different though... we do not have a few hundred billion in debt like we did 40-50 years ago, we have 16T and rising fast. The dollar is on the back end of demise. The collapse that the C-P strategy is looking for will not lead to a collapse and rebirth of the welfare system alone, it lead to a total global financial collapse. Giving welfare receipents worthless dollars to buy expensive food with will not placate them.

The question then becomes, do the American people want this collapse to happen before gun laws are changed, so that we can protect ourselves... or do we sit back and let the communists execute their plans in the order they choose..

It may be time to sink this economy and pull the plug now. We have shown that we can drop nearly 3% off of the GDP in one quarter alone... and we didn't even try.

Let sequestration kick-in, stop buying anything and everything.... and sink it.
 Quoting: TraderRob


Interesting thoughts ….. we did drop 3 points and not a single wave in the pond.

I am still under the belief that pain is needed for change the people wont even raise up from watching TV, surfing the web or tweeting unless they feel real pain… all the while we are frogs in a simmering pot about to boil

Good thread OP

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