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NEWSFLASH: Ayn Rand was Right!! >>> Ayn Rand & The Prophecy of Atlas Shrugged

 
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This is on Netflix now. Awesome documentary. Nails it.

Ayn Rand & The Prophecy of Atlas Shrugged


"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
Senator Robert F. Kennedy, June 6 1966 (South Africa address)
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She's the GOP's favorite sociopathic atheist!
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She's the GOP's favorite sociopathic atheist!
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Yes. She's been totally mischaracterized by socialists and communists as being selfish, self-centered, etc. But she really just wanted the state out of people's business. She was a lover of the Constitution that allowed people to be free individuals who were allowed to pursue happiness, without being guilted into "altruism", thinking you owed others your livelihood, etc. The state has taken this guilt and used it against us, making us feel that if we are not giving away all of what we personally produce, then we are somehow not good "Christians" or good people. Well, it's all bullshit. Just ask Thomas Jefferson. The happiness of the individual must come FIRST.

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"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
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She's the GOP's favorite sociopathic atheist!
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Watch the documentary. Most people completely miss who Ayn Rand was and what she was trying to warn us about -- Socialism and Communism (she grew up in Communist Russia).
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
Senator Robert F. Kennedy, June 6 1966 (South Africa address)
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She's the GOP's favorite sociopathic atheist!
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Relax commie ....it's only a movie.
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OP, Rand was dating Lord Rothschild and she modeled Galt after him.

Get it? Galt is the antichrist engineering the collapse and the solution to the collapse. She only showed you the savior face in Atlas. She did not show you the part about him being the great architect behind the problems that he emerges to solve.
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Thanks for the link! I'll watch that.
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OP, Rand was dating Lord Rothschild and she modeled Galt after him.

Get it? Galt is the antichrist engineering the collapse and the solution to the collapse. She only showed you the savior face in Atlas. She did not show you the part about him being the great architect behind the problems that he emerges to solve.
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^ this /of thread
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The collapse is the result of employing absolute self indulgent reason.

It takes more power than it gives.

or chops down trees faster than they regrow.

So absolute capitalistic altrusim is sustained by irresponsibility.

Ayn Rand claims that altruism is evil because of this.

responsible altruistic logic dictates that you share power as equally as possible.

She is very honest.

but she like everyone else in the absolute capitalist system.

which is a sophistry is kept ignorant of Truth to the point where everyone are liars.

even if they are trying to be honest as honest as possible.

because sharing power equally is very hard.

It's easy to take more power than you give.

Altrusim is not evil...it's just very hard to accomplish.

It's the same as chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow.

Then you will never be the cause of the collapse that taking more than you give is the cause of.

Sacrifice is only good if it's worth it.

Killing yourself to sustain chopping down trees faster than they regrow to produce books for sale to become more powerful at the expence of everyone and everything else is evil.

It's like fighting to the death to remain asleep to enjoy the dream you are awake.

"(Absolute) Capitalism is the astounding belief (delusion) that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone."--JOHN MAYNARD KEYNES

"America's abundance was not created by public sacrifices to "the common good," but by the productive genius of free men who pursued their own personal interests and the making of their own private fortunes."--Ayn Rand (Absolute capitalist)...Entertains the above mentioned astounding delusion.

The odd couple...negative and positive perspectives of Absolute capitalists who employ absolute self indulgent reason.

Which is what you all use to solve the problem of existance.

"The essential claim of sophistry is that the actual logical validity of an argument is irrelevant (if not non-existent); it is only the ruling of the audience which ultimately determines whether a conclusion is considered "true" or not. By appealing to the prejudices and emotions of the judges, one can garner favorable treatment for one's side of the argument and cause a factually false position to be ruled true."--Sophistry A.K.A Democracy or Truth by Popular delusion/concensus

"When plunder (Absolute capitalism/taking more than you give/living beyond your means) becomes a way of life for a group of men (Absolute capitalists) living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal (rule) system that authorizes it and a moral code (religion) that glorifies it."--Frederic Bastiat

All life and everything in the Universe capitalizes upon Truth to sustaine the existance of all and everything in teh Universe.
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She's the GOP's favorite sociopathic atheist!
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Yes. She's been totally mischaracterized by socialists and communists as being selfish, self-centered, etc. But she really just wanted the state out of people's business. She was a lover of the Constitution that allowed people to be free individuals who were allowed to pursue happiness, without being guilted into "altruism", thinking you owed others your livelihood, etc. The state has taken this guilt and used it against us, making us feel that if we are not giving away all of what we personally produce, then we are somehow not good "Christians" or good people. Well, it's all bullshit. Just ask Thomas Jefferson. The happiness of the individual must come FIRST.
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The collapse is the result of employing absolute self indulgent reason.

It takes more power than it gives.

or chops down trees faster than they regrow.

So absolute capitalistic altrusim is sustained by irresponsibility.

Ayn Rand claims that altruism is evil because of this.

responsible altruistic logic dictates that you share power as equally as possible.

She is very honest.

but she like everyone else in the absolute capitalist system.

which is a sophistry is kept ignorant of Truth to the point where everyone are liars.

even if they are trying to be honest as honest as possible.

because sharing power equally is very hard.

It's easy to take more power than you give.

Altrusim is not evil...it's just very hard to accomplish.

It's the same as chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow.

Then you will never be the cause of the collapse that taking more than you give is the cause of.

Sacrifice is only good if it's worth it.

Killing yourself to sustain chopping down trees faster than they regrow to produce books for sale to become more powerful at the expence of everyone and everything else is evil.

It's like fighting to the death to remain asleep to enjoy the dream you are awake.

"(Absolute) Capitalism is the astounding belief (delusion) that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone."--JOHN MAYNARD KEYNES

"America's abundance was not created by public sacrifices to "the common good," but by the productive genius of free men who pursued their own personal interests and the making of their own private fortunes."--Ayn Rand (Absolute capitalist)...Entertains the above mentioned astounding delusion.

The odd couple...negative and positive perspectives of Absolute capitalists who employ absolute self indulgent reason.

Which is what you all use to solve the problem of existance.

"The essential claim of sophistry is that the actual logical validity of an argument is irrelevant (if not non-existent); it is only the ruling of the audience which ultimately determines whether a conclusion is considered "true" or not. By appealing to the prejudices and emotions of the judges, one can garner favorable treatment for one's side of the argument and cause a factually false position to be ruled true."--Sophistry A.K.A Democracy or Truth by Popular delusion/concensus

"When plunder (Absolute capitalism/taking more than you give/living beyond your means) becomes a way of life for a group of men (Absolute capitalists) living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal (rule) system that authorizes it and a moral code (religion) that glorifies it."--Frederic Bastiat

All life and everything in the Universe capitalizes upon Truth to sustaine the existance of all and everything in teh Universe.
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"If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen." -Barack Obama

I don't stand for "absolute" anything, including capitalism, but I certainly don't stand for tyranny in the form of socialism, either.
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
Senator Robert F. Kennedy, June 6 1966 (South Africa address)
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OP, Rand was dating Lord Rothschild and she modeled Galt after him.

Get it? Galt is the antichrist engineering the collapse and the solution to the collapse. She only showed you the savior face in Atlas. She did not show you the part about him being the great architect behind the problems that he emerges to solve.
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Link? (one that isn't tied to a Christian conspiracy site, please)
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
Senator Robert F. Kennedy, June 6 1966 (South Africa address)
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OP, Rand was dating Lord Rothschild and she modeled Galt after him.

Get it? Galt is the antichrist engineering the collapse and the solution to the collapse. She only showed you the savior face in Atlas. She did not show you the part about him being the great architect behind the problems that he emerges to solve.
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Link? (one that isn't tied to a Christian conspiracy site, please)
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Is your google broken or are you just lazy and too dumb to type? You must be to fall for this crap.


I read the book when was a total con. Then I woke up. Stupid people will never search it out though. You deserve your fate.

Lib/con is for fools.
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She's the GOP's favorite sociopathic atheist!
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Yes. She's been totally mischaracterized by socialists and communists as being selfish, self-centered, etc. But she really just wanted the state out of people's business. She was a lover of the Constitution that allowed people to be free individuals who were allowed to pursue happiness, without being guilted into "altruism", thinking you owed others your livelihood, etc. The state has taken this guilt and used it against us, making us feel that if we are not giving away all of what we personally produce, then we are somehow not good "Christians" or good people. Well, it's all bullshit. Just ask Thomas Jefferson. The happiness of the individual must come FIRST.
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Only a selfish self-centered bitch would do what she did to her husband.
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Chopping down trees faster than they regrow to sustain life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness ends in death, slavery, and unhappiness.

In the beginning when the forest seems endless...chopping down trees faster than they regrow looks like Truth.

The positive phase of the lie...A wonderful Idea.

But in the end when the trees run out...that is the lifiting of the veil...the collapse of the lie or the negative phase of the lie.

The top/master or Ayn Rand lives off the yield from the bottom...the servants and slaves.

She is an entrepreneur...that is at the top of a power amassing sun hierarchy within the hierarchy.

A self employed employee of the global enterprise.

Within the absolute capitalist hierarchical food powered make work enterprise.

The people in the third world or bottom are plundered by those in the first world or top to obtain the power they have to supply the demand of Ayn Rand for power.

All the employees of the enterprise are trying to do this.

and when the demand for power becomes greater than the supply of power...the absolute capitalist system collapses.

It's what every every civilization on Earth for all of recorded history has done.

It's a lie all within it believe is Truth until the supply of power the lie demands to sustain teh war against Truth runs out.

Since Truth is the supply of power...when the lie of chopping down trees faster than they regrow as the path of salvation...runs out of trees to chop down.

The lie that was pretending to be Truth self destructs.

Which is what the the bretton woods global trade system that made the USA the demand of the global trade system and the rest of the world the supply is doing.

The USA along with the rest of the world is collapsing from the bottom to the top since all the deficits below sustain the surpluses above.

The top grows richer in power by taking more power than they give from the bottom who grow poorer in power by giving more power than they take from the top.

and when the gold mines run dry...The absolute capitalist system collapses.

It's why there are ghost towns next to gold mines that have run dry.

and why the surface of the planet is coated with the skeletal remians of previous lies you all believed were Truth.

but the devot worshipers of the just think positive ignore negative religion based on absolute self indulgent reason.

or that ignorance = bliss

tell me that if at first you don't succeed defeating Truth.

Try Try again.

There is never a lasting victory over lies while teh war against truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

Ignorance of Truth is teh root of all evil.

But of course absolute capitalists are not searching for Truth.

They are seeking support for or to promote their cherished delusions.

"People of privilege (Absolute capitalists) will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage. (Power)"--John Kenneth Galbraith

"The modern conservative (absolute capitalist) is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."--John Kenneth Galbraith

"Under (Absolute) capitalism, man exploits man. Under (Absolute capitalism) communism, it's just the opposite."--John Kenneth Galbraith
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OP, Rand was dating Lord Rothschild and she modeled Galt after him.

Get it? Galt is the antichrist engineering the collapse and the solution to the collapse. She only showed you the savior face in Atlas. She did not show you the part about him being the great architect behind the problems that he emerges to solve.
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Link? (one that isn't tied to a Christian conspiracy site, please)
 Quoting: Present and Aware


Is your google broken or are you just lazy and too dumb to type? You must be to fall for this crap.


I read the book when was a total con. Then I woke up. Stupid people will never search it out though. You deserve your fate.

Lib/con is for fools.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13265708


If you're going to make assertions, then you need to provide some kind of references to back up your claims. That's standard practice like listing citations in a research paper. You don't make everyone here run to Google because you decided to blurt something out with nothing to back it up.

Don't be lazy. Post a link or shut up.
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
Senator Robert F. Kennedy, June 6 1966 (South Africa address)
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She's the GOP's favorite sociopathic atheist!
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Yes. She's been totally mischaracterized by socialists and communists as being selfish, self-centered, etc. But she really just wanted the state out of people's business. She was a lover of the Constitution that allowed people to be free individuals who were allowed to pursue happiness, without being guilted into "altruism", thinking you owed others your livelihood, etc. The state has taken this guilt and used it against us, making us feel that if we are not giving away all of what we personally produce, then we are somehow not good "Christians" or good people. Well, it's all bullshit. Just ask Thomas Jefferson. The happiness of the individual must come FIRST.
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Only a selfish self-centered bitch would do what she did to her husband.
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Watch the documentary (unless you're a socialist/Marxist).
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
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Chopping down trees faster than they regrow to sustain life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness ends in death, slavery, and unhappiness.

In the beginning when the forest seems endless...chopping down trees faster than they regrow looks like Truth.

The positive phase of the lie...A wonderful Idea.

But in the end when the trees run out...that is the lifiting of the veil...the collapse of the lie or the negative phase of the lie.

The top/master or Ayn Rand lives off the yield from the bottom...the servants and slaves.

She is an entrepreneur...that is at the top of a power amassing sun hierarchy within the hierarchy.

A self employed employee of the global enterprise.

Within the absolute capitalist hierarchical food powered make work enterprise.

The people in the third world or bottom are plundered by those in the first world or top to obtain the power they have to supply the demand of Ayn Rand for power.

All the employees of the enterprise are trying to do this.

and when the demand for power becomes greater than the supply of power...the absolute capitalist system collapses.

It's what every every civilization on Earth for all of recorded history has done.

It's a lie all within it believe is Truth until the supply of power the lie demands to sustain teh war against Truth runs out.

Since Truth is the supply of power...when the lie of chopping down trees faster than they regrow as the path of salvation...runs out of trees to chop down.

The lie that was pretending to be Truth self destructs.

Which is what the the bretton woods global trade system that made the USA the demand of the global trade system and the rest of the world the supply is doing.

The USA along with the rest of the world is collapsing from the bottom to the top since all the deficits below sustain the surpluses above.

The top grows richer in power by taking more power than they give from the bottom who grow poorer in power by giving more power than they take from the top.

and when the gold mines run dry...The absolute capitalist system collapses.

It's why there are ghost towns next to gold mines that have run dry.

and why the surface of the planet is coated with the skeletal remians of previous lies you all believed were Truth.

but the devot worshipers of the just think positive ignore negative religion based on absolute self indulgent reason.

or that ignorance = bliss

tell me that if at first you don't succeed defeating Truth.

Try Try again.

There is never a lasting victory over lies while teh war against truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

Ignorance of Truth is teh root of all evil.

But of course absolute capitalists are not searching for Truth.

They are seeking support for or to promote their cherished delusions.

"People of privilege (Absolute capitalists) will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage. (Power)"--John Kenneth Galbraith

"The modern conservative (absolute capitalist) is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."--John Kenneth Galbraith

"Under (Absolute) capitalism, man exploits man. Under (Absolute capitalism) communism, it's just the opposite."--John Kenneth Galbraith
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Did you watch the documentary?

Again, absolute anything, including capitalism is bad news. Everything in balance. But absolute socialism is equally as evil, as it is theft and tyranny of the state over the people.
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
Senator Robert F. Kennedy, June 6 1966 (South Africa address)
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OP, Rand was dating Lord Rothschild and she modeled Galt after him.

Get it? Galt is the antichrist engineering the collapse and the solution to the collapse. She only showed you the savior face in Atlas. She did not show you the part about him being the great architect behind the problems that he emerges to solve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13265708


Link? (one that isn't tied to a Christian conspiracy site, please)
 Quoting: Present and Aware


Is your google broken or are you just lazy and too dumb to type? You must be to fall for this crap.


I read the book when was a total con. Then I woke up. Stupid people will never search it out though. You deserve your fate.

Lib/con is for fools.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13265708


If you're going to make assertions, then you need to provide some kind of references to back up your claims. That's standard practice like listing citations in a research paper. You don't make everyone here run to Google because you decided to blurt something out with nothing to back it up.

Don't be lazy. Post a link or shut up.
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This commie has no source for the Rothschild conspiracy.

John Galt was not even a monetary capitalist. He was an inventive genius and engineer with plans to create Free Energy - Tesla style. And just like Tesla, Galt was not allowed to accomplish that in such a market that we have. So, he left this society, isolated himself to pursue his endeavors in privacy and as he wished.

John Galt was not the reason the economy collapsed. The economy collapsed because of LEACHES - lobbyists and incompetent fools in office. Men who have no creative genius, men who only want to capitalize by exploiting others' attempts at success.

The protagonists, Dagny, Hank and Galt - sure they could have saved the economy but they were NEVER given the freedom to do so. They contained the competent, intelligent ability to be PRODUCTIVE and this brings success which will yield money but does not make them capitalists.
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Link? (one that isn't tied to a Christian conspiracy site, please)
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Is your google broken or are you just lazy and too dumb to type? You must be to fall for this crap.


I read the book when was a total con. Then I woke up. Stupid people will never search it out though. You deserve your fate.

Lib/con is for fools.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13265708


If you're going to make assertions, then you need to provide some kind of references to back up your claims. That's standard practice like listing citations in a research paper. You don't make everyone here run to Google because you decided to blurt something out with nothing to back it up.

Don't be lazy. Post a link or shut up.
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This commie has no source for the Rothschild conspiracy.

John Galt was not even a monetary capitalist. He was an inventive genius and engineer with plans to create Free Energy - Tesla style. And just like Tesla, Galt was not allowed to accomplish that in such a market that we have. So, he left this society, isolated himself to pursue his endeavors in privacy and as he wished.

John Galt was not the reason the economy collapsed. The economy collapsed because of LEACHES - lobbyists and incompetent fools in office. Men who have no creative genius, men who only want to capitalize by exploiting others' attempts at success.

The protagonists, Dagny, Hank and Galt - sure they could have saved the economy but they were NEVER given the freedom to do so. They contained the competent, intelligent ability to be PRODUCTIVE and this brings success which will yield money but does not make them capitalists.
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clappa
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
Senator Robert F. Kennedy, June 6 1966 (South Africa address)
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bump because this documentary is very well done.

I'm enjoying it very much in little pieces while I work.

Highly recommend watching it on Netflix. You may actually learn something you didn't know.
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Almost done with this documentary. It is extremely well done.

It's made one thing very clear to me... that most people don't understand Ayn Rand or her philosophy at all, even though many will often go off at the mouth about it as if they do understand.

Has anyone here watched this documentary yet? If so, what did you think? I find it 100% spot-on.

It describes exactly what we're seeing in today's society. I cannot imagine very many GLPers disagreeing with it at all after watching it. It makes to much sense.

Like her or hate her -- she was RIGHT and her prophecy is coming to fruition exactly as she had hoped her writing would avoid.
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
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what most people tend to forget about the storyline in Atlas Shrugged, is this: at the end, there conveniently was a 'free power' device in the enclave of entrepreneurial outcasts - whose development and realisation apparently has been hidden from, and denied to, the general public. way to go, if you want to improve the world.

that being said, Rand was a marvellous character for her time. who else had the nerve to publicly date convicted serial killers because she found them interesting 'strong-willed' individuals...
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what most people tend to forget about the storyline in Atlas Shrugged, is this: at the end, there conveniently was a 'free power' device in the enclave of entrepreneurial outcasts - whose development and realisation apparently has been hidden from, and denied to, the general public. way to go, if you want to improve the world.

that being said, Rand was a marvellous character for her time. who else had the nerve to publicly date convicted serial killers because she found them interesting 'strong-willed' individuals...
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If that's true (got a link?), she probably scared the fuck out of them, lol.

So far as hiding a free energy device from the world... why not if most of the world would just use it like it was their 'right' to have it given to them, then demand you give even more of your hard work to them without any recompense?

If society punished innovation like that, why continue giving to the takers? You let them fend for themselves without original ideas or production and see how long they live on each others taxes and endless bureaucracy.

Capitalism doesn't cause these problems in society. It is crony capitalism that's the problem (a.k.a. the military-industrial complex).

Not sure how things are in Belgium, but here we very much have a spoiled, entitled society growing by leaps and bounds; a bunch of babies who want to live off others and the government's teat, and who think they're great even if they don't do anything worthy of being called great.

I'm telling you, all GLPers need to see this documentary. It rocks. I can tell nobody here saw it because this thread only has 3 stars. If most others saw it, this thread would be super-pinned with 4-5 stars.
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what most people tend to forget about the storyline in Atlas Shrugged, is this: at the end, there conveniently was a 'free power' device in the enclave of entrepreneurial outcasts - whose development and realisation apparently has been hidden from, and denied to, the general public. way to go, if you want to improve the world.

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The reason this free energy device was kept from the public is because you know it would have been exploited or shunned. Simply look at what happened to Nikola Tesla. I'm sure Galt would love to have shared it with the world, but we all know nothing can be free in this world. Thanks to capitalists.
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Is your google broken or are you just lazy and too dumb to type? You must be to fall for this crap.


I read the book when was a total con. Then I woke up. Stupid people will never search it out though. You deserve your fate.

Lib/con is for fools.
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If you're going to make assertions, then you need to provide some kind of references to back up your claims. That's standard practice like listing citations in a research paper. You don't make everyone here run to Google because you decided to blurt something out with nothing to back it up.

Don't be lazy. Post a link or shut up.
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This commie has no source for the Rothschild conspiracy.

John Galt was not even a monetary capitalist. He was an inventive genius and engineer with plans to create Free Energy - Tesla style. And just like Tesla, Galt was not allowed to accomplish that in such a market that we have. So, he left this society, isolated himself to pursue his endeavors in privacy and as he wished.

John Galt was not the reason the economy collapsed. The economy collapsed because of LEACHES - lobbyists and incompetent fools in office. Men who have no creative genius, men who only want to capitalize by exploiting others' attempts at success.

The protagonists, Dagny, Hank and Galt - sure they could have saved the economy but they were NEVER given the freedom to do so. They contained the competent, intelligent ability to be PRODUCTIVE and this brings success which will yield money but does not make them capitalists.
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clappa
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Thanks for the thread OP. I will definitely check out this documentary.
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what most people tend to forget about the storyline in Atlas Shrugged, is this: at the end, there conveniently was a 'free power' device in the enclave of entrepreneurial outcasts - whose development and realisation apparently has been hidden from, and denied to, the general public. way to go, if you want to improve the world.

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The reason this free energy device was kept from the public is because you know it would have been exploited or shunned. Simply look at what happened to Nikola Tesla. I'm sure Galt would love to have shared it with the world, but we all know nothing can be free in this world. Thanks to capitalists.
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There's nothing wrong with capitalists. Again, the problem isn't with capitalism. What's wrong with making money? Nothing! Value is produced and a person gets paid something in equal value for it.

Much of the TYPE of capitalism that IS the problem in the US isn't straight capitalism, it's corrupt CRONY capitalism a.k.a. the military-industrial complex. That should be the enemy -- not capitalism itself. If you think so, you should throw away your computer because it was built by a company that believes in capitalism.

Somebody get me out of this Marxist/socialist nightmare we call the USA, please! It's stupid and insane!

Tonight I began making plans for leaving the US. Never thought I would do it, but I don't recognize this country anymore. It is becoming the Soviet Union. It is no longer the land of the free or the home of the brave. It's been taken over by wolves in sheep's clothing.
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
Senator Robert F. Kennedy, June 6 1966 (South Africa address)
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what most people tend to forget about the storyline in Atlas Shrugged, is this: at the end, there conveniently was a 'free power' device in the enclave of entrepreneurial outcasts - whose development and realisation apparently has been hidden from, and denied to, the general public. way to go, if you want to improve the world.

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The reason this free energy device was kept from the public is because you know it would have been exploited or shunned. Simply look at what happened to Nikola Tesla. I'm sure Galt would love to have shared it with the world, but we all know nothing can be free in this world. Thanks to capitalists.
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There's nothing wrong with capitalists. Again, the problem isn't with capitalism. What's wrong with making money? Nothing! Value is produced and a person gets paid something in equal value for it.

Much of the TYPE of capitalism that IS the problem in the US isn't straight capitalism, it's corrupt CRONY capitalism a.k.a. the military-industrial complex. That should be the enemy -- not capitalism itself. If you think so, you should throw away your computer because it was built by a company that believes in capitalism.

Somebody get me out of this Marxist/socialist nightmare we call the USA, please! It's stupid and insane!

Tonight I began making plans for leaving the US. Never thought I would do it, but I don't recognize this country anymore. It is becoming the Soviet Union. It is no longer the land of the free or the home of the brave. It's been taken over by wolves in sheep's clothing.
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Where you thinking of going?
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what most people tend to forget about the storyline in Atlas Shrugged, is this: at the end, there conveniently was a 'free power' device in the enclave of entrepreneurial outcasts - whose development and realisation apparently has been hidden from, and denied to, the general public. way to go, if you want to improve the world.

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The reason this free energy device was kept from the public is because you know it would have been exploited or shunned. Simply look at what happened to Nikola Tesla. I'm sure Galt would love to have shared it with the world, but we all know nothing can be free in this world. Thanks to capitalists.
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There's nothing wrong with capitalists. Again, the problem isn't with capitalism. What's wrong with making money? Nothing! Value is produced and a person gets paid something in equal value for it.

Much of the TYPE of capitalism that IS the problem in the US isn't straight capitalism, it's corrupt CRONY capitalism a.k.a. the military-industrial complex. That should be the enemy -- not capitalism itself. If you think so, you should throw away your computer because it was built by a company that believes in capitalism.

Somebody get me out of this Marxist/socialist nightmare we call the USA, please! It's stupid and insane!

Tonight I began making plans for leaving the US. Never thought I would do it, but I don't recognize this country anymore. It is becoming the Soviet Union. It is no longer the land of the free or the home of the brave. It's been taken over by wolves in sheep's clothing.
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Where you thinking of going?
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Not sure yet. Maybe Patagonia, Southern India or Costa Rica. I'm concerned about required vaccines, though, as they are loaded with viruses and my immune system is already compromised, so I'll have to factor that into my decision. I figure I have 5-7 years before I HAVE to move because it's become so bad here. Obama still needs to build his civilian army (to use those billion hollow point bullets). Once that happens, Hitler 2.0 begins. People don't realize the invasion already happened. Communism won. It's just now removing the velvet glove from the iron fist.
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OP, Rand was dating Lord Rothschild and she modeled Galt after him.

Get it? Galt is the antichrist engineering the collapse and the solution to the collapse. She only showed you the savior face in Atlas. She did not show you the part about him being the great architect behind the problems that he emerges to solve.
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^ this /of thread
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